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Hello! My name is Christina and I am a student at Kent State University majoring in special education. Excited for this chat! #ohedchat@barbersclass#barbersclass
Hello! My name is Rachel and I am studying Early Childhood Education and Special Education at Kent State University. I am excited for this chat! #ohedchat#barbersclass
Hello, #ohedchat! This is Dru Tomlin, proud principal of @HeritageMS_WCS in #WestervilleStrong, Ohio--serving over 1000 middle school kiddos at our school on the daily! Looking 4ward 2 learning from all of the edu-stars out there 2nite! @WCSOH
Lydia Tokarz, Canal Winchester Local Schools...former gifted teacher, currently teacher-librarian/ library learning commons director & aspiring administrator- last semester of grad school. I see the light. 😂💜 #ohedchat
Hello! My name is Christina and I am a student at Kent State University majoring in special education. Excited for this chat! #ohedchat@barbersclass#barbersclass
Don't forget to include the hashtag #ohedchat so everyone can follow along. Keep the edu-thread going! Get ready to rock & roar, everyone! Q1 is on the launch pad now....
A1: The evaluation process needs to serve all stakeholders. From the learner to the ones doing the teaching. Discussing and sharing of ideas and approaches. Approach the process as a united team. #ohedchat
A1 As the observer, I hope to gain a perspective on the relationship between students and teacher. Is there a culture of engagement and trust? #ohedchat
A1 - To always be reflective of my practice and those that I observe. Also, to remember the importance of focusing on those positive relationships. They are the cornerstone of teaching and leading. #ohedchat
A1: open dialogue, observations are just one moment in time, should be one component of a larger conversation of student achievement and instructional practices #ohedchat
A1: as a preservice teacher, I learn a lot about the education field from observing. As the observer, I hope to gain insight into positive relationships between teachers and students. #ohedchat#barbersclass
A1 I’m looking for deep reflection and rich conversations leading to positive change and growth AND strengthening the relationship with a fellow educator #ohedchat
A1: When being evaluated - I want ...A chance for reflection, opportunity for discussion, someone to push on my thinking so I can refine my practice. #OHedchat
A1: As the observer: Level of relationships between T and S and level of engagement in the learning experiences•••• I try really hard to be SUPER visible and in learning environments all day long •••
☠️🌟❤️📚🤓 LOVE being “in it” #OhEdChat
A1. I hope 2 learn more about what works in terms of instruction, relationship-building, and supporting growth for all (including the growth of the teachers and staff being observed and evaluated). It's got 2B more than checklists & check boxes! #ohedchat
As someone who is evaluated, it's nice to have time to discuss pedagogy & begin a convo w/ an admin; w/ so much put on the plates of Ts and admins, having the time to discuss 1on1 is a luxury #ohedchat
A1: I hope to build an understanding of what I want to see in a teacher as well as get understanding of what their goals are as an educator. Great chance to build relationships & trust #ohedchat
A1: As the observer: Level of relationships between T and S and level of engagement in the learning experiences•••• I try really hard to be SUPER visible and in learning environments all day long •••
☠️🌟❤️📚🤓 LOVE being “in it” #OhEdChat
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A1: honest feedback that helps myself or the person grow. Finding a positive to build off of and an area to help refine. It's all about that #growthmindset#ohedchat
A1: as an evaluator my goal is to praise what my Ts do well as use that as motivation for them to grow and improve on areas they need to improve upon. Asking the right questions so they discover what they need to do to grow! #ohedchat
A1 I hope to provide quality feedback. We also need to learn how to accept feedback. This book helped me. Thanks for the Feedback. https://t.co/GARYaoTJ47#ohedchat
A1. Feedback which is honest and represntative from the opportunities observed where questions can be asked and ideas shared and time for reflection upon comments shared. #ohedchat
You have to be able to take the advice you are willing to give in order to grow. The important part is for it to be relevant and sincere and not just based on smoke and mirrors. You have to see and know things first hand to give advice. #ohedchat
A1: As the observer: Level of relationships between T and S and level of engagement in the learning experiences•••• I try really hard to be SUPER visible and in learning environments all day long •••
☠️🌟❤️📚🤓 LOVE being “in it” #OhEdChat
A1.2) when being observed i actually hated if every box was checked. There is always a way to better. "You can't just go on being a good egg. You must either #hatchorgobad" #ohedchat
A2: The evaluation process has made my ability to reflect become that much more a part of my growth. Internal reflection and externally sharing has been huge! Being presented insight into the work we do is essential. Perception versus reality. #ohedchat
Right on, Dennis! Key word for me is "potential". When an evaluation is rushed or tokenized, so much potential is squandered. Must maximize the evaulation potential 4 all involved! #ohedchat
A1: I try to acknowledge the targeted, hard work I see in the classroom. I also want to share anything I can that helps teachers or students achieve more, while validating their effort and purpose. Bottom line, observations should build up, not tear down. #ohedchat
This is powerful and why I use the glow and grow and what I need for support method in our weekly leadership team huddles. #ohedchat reflecting on what worked and discussing what didn’t, why and how to improve with your team builds bonds!
A1.2) when being observed i actually hated if every box was checked. There is always a way to better. "You can't just go on being a good egg. You must either #hatchorgobad" #ohedchat
A2 - That would have to be PBL! It’s really tough at times, but watching students create their own learning and share it with others is worth it! #ohedchat
Thanks Dru! It most certainly deserves center stage in our work as instructional leaders. But it's never easy to keep it as one of our "main things". #ohedchat
A2: cherish the opportunities to give specific feedback that pushes Ts to #LevelUP •••• LOVE to be able to offer these suggestions and then support and model to see it in action. Very authentic process. #OhEdChat
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A2: Lots of options on what helps growth! From what I have learned in my classes at Kent State, collaboration with teachers, parents, families, and students is key to growth. The more you collaborate the easier. #ohedchat#barbersclass@barbersclass
A2 I am always looking to build a capacity to personalize learning. It goes beyond differentiation,is built on relationships & makes evaluations about feedback and growth #ohedchat
A2: I love to read and engage in professional discourse with other educators that are experts in areas that I need growth in. It is valuable for me to always be willing to be mentored #ohedchat
A2) post-conference! Ask "why" A LOT.
Why did students work in groups?
Why did you pick those groups?
Why does that choice support the lesson?
No wrong answers UNLESS it is "that's how I've always done it" BE DELIBERATE #ohedchat
Yes!! Collaboration is the key to successful teaching & successful schools! We’re not islands. Social media has opened that up even more for us!! #OhEdChat
A2: Lots of options on what helps growth! From what I have learned in my classes at Kent State, collaboration with teachers, parents, families, and students is key to growth. The more you collaborate the easier. #ohedchat#barbersclass@barbersclass
A2: I grow the most by reflecting on my performance in the classroom with the help of constant collaboration with my peers and professors regarding how to improve. #ohedchat
A2. I grow by looking at teaching & learning thru the multiple lenses on the evaluation rubric. I enjoy looking at instruction holistically, but the evaluation tool forces me 2C thru many facets. #ohedchat
A2: at the beginning of this year I would say that implementing discipline was my weakest area..after unexpectedly becoming the acting director of DOPR School, my biggest strength is discipline/culture refinement. Current evaluator helps me reflect & revise practices. #ohedchat
A2: An area that I grow the most during the process is empathy skills. The more that I work & grow w/ others, the more I understand & realize their perspectives, motives, & point of view. This helps me to become a better collaborator & teammate. #ohedchat
A2: Transformation isn’t all roses. Sometimes you have to be uprooted before becoming...the process matters and it’s important to remember that. Small successes equal big results. #ohedchat
#EdEquityChat
When people have freedom, different individuals will accomplish different things. The opposite of "freedom" is "equity". Here's what leftists think they are doing vs what enforcing "equality of outcome" really does:
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I support Betsy DeVos
Collaboration, another key word! We don’t teach in a bubble. Find those who share your passion, positivity and pride! Change the world for your students. #ohedchat
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A2. Collaboration through the sharing of ideas and information based on the evaluation from each party's perspective, setting goals and revamping new goals for growth and challenges! #ohedchat
A3: Can we add time? Wishful thinking, we know. In reality, the greatest part of the process is the dialogue that goes with it. Seeing, acting, doing. Being present and discussing what works and what works best. #ohedchat
I love to use the phrase "coach them up" when talking to students and colleagues. My good friend, @drneilgupta shared the power of this phrase with me. Grateful. #ohedchat
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How? How did you do that? How would you change what you did? How can you improve? How do you know what you did worked or didn’t work? How do you know? #ohedchat
A2: Transformation isn’t all roses. Sometimes you have to be uprooted before becoming...the process matters and it’s important to remember that. Small successes equal big results. #ohedchat
This is where having a set of Performance Level Descriptors really helps to identify what a student at or approaching mastery looks like/sounds. #OHedchat
A3: remove numbers that seek to quantify the complex process of teaching and learning; often, when we see a ‘grade’ the learning tends to stop. #ohedchat
A3. IMO its a lot about the evaluator. Are they giving constructive feedback? Are they giving me opps for growth? Are they in my room often? Do they know me more than that snapshot? #ohedchat
A3: One thing I would add to the process of assessment is the opportunity for students to review and revise their work. Assessment should not be the end of a student's learning process! #ohedchat
A3: Would like to see more universal agreement on terms such as "student engagement and differentiation." These terms are often misunderstood and left open to interpretation. #ohedchat
A3: Something I would add to the process of assessment is giving clear feedback and reteaching material if necessary. #ohedchat@barbersclass#barbersclass
A3: more ⏰ with Ts to be reflective and put the feedback in action• Really having conversations about how to take all learning experiences to the next level••• so thankful for an ELITE ILT @kferreira71 who can support Ts #GrowthMindSet#CanWeAddHoursToTheDay#OhEdChat 🤓☠️
A3: Would like to see more universal agreement on terms such as "student engagement and differentiation." These terms are often misunderstood and left open to interpretation. #ohedchat
A2. Growth is essential for educators, or else we can easily become complacent! After 22 years, I have to continually seek out new opportunities to stretch and grow! It keeps things fresh!🌟 #ohedchat
A3:I would add a innovation and taking chances component. We need to reward our teacher who are willing to push the limits and step outside of their comfort zones. #ohedchat
A3 - I would delete all lap tops from evaluation. I don’t want to type an evaluation. I want to observe and learn. Bring back mandatory walking around in a class and actually chatting with students. #ohedchat
A3: I would add another layer to the post observation process. Immediate reflection conference, then another conference 3 or 4 days later to reflect after reviewing assessments/student work artifacts. #ohedchat
A3: addition by subtraction? Take some of the mandates off our plates so we can focus more time on getting into classrooms & having meaningful conversations w/ Ts #ohedchat
A3: I’ll try to slide into this chat before I go to bed! I think there needs to be informal assessments that doesn’t require a grade, just the classic informal “check-ins” throughput a lesson. #ohedchat
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A3) I would delete me (the admin). Would love to see valuable peer and student feedback for Taking. Need an open mind and big girl (or boy) pants and a real desire to get better. I'd be there for the support that comes after the reflection. #ohedchat
A3: I’ll try to slide into this chat before I go to bed! I think there needs to be informal assessments that doesn’t require a grade, just the classic informal “check-ins” during a lesson. #ohedchat
What nspired you to try this approach or technique? How well do you feel your Ss responded in learning to the approach used? What types of changes would you make if different? #ohedchat
A3: addition by subtraction? Take some of the mandates off our plates so we can focus more time on getting into classrooms & having meaningful conversations w/ Ts #ohedchat
A4: I am seeing amazing instructional conversations with my T's and their S's. Taking relationships and having them guide the learning supports how we do evaluations for the grown-ups. So, yes, they are! #ohedchat
A3 - Focus on exactly what is being observed. We try to measure everything and instead little change happens. No person does everything well all the time. Pick one or two key areas and foster growth in those areas. #ohedchat
A3: would honestly add WAY more informal walk-throughs & immediate (that day or the next) conversations & eliminate the scheduled “formal” dog & pony show #ohedchat
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A4) I want to get there. As a first year admin starting formal evals, this round is a game changer. Trying to do it right, make it impactful for teaching AND learning. #ohedchat
A4: I’d actually like to see teacher evaluation more closely aligned with administrator evaluation, especially district leaders. You’d gain greater buy-in if the accountability was consistent from the top. #ohedchat
A4: I've only been evaluated so far by my field experience teacher and seen the rubric she uses. It does not align with evaluating students because I do not take paper/pencil tests with evaluation. #ohedchat#barbersclass@barbersclass
Walk-through followed by a short, focused conversation. The "observation lesson plan" is not an accurate snapshot of how teachers plan day to day. #ohedchat
A4 It may be semantics, but this idea challenges my thinking, often. Wondering...
Is a teacher's job to "evaluate"? Or is it to "assess"? And if it's to assess, is it to assess the students? Or the teaching AND learning? #ohedchat
A4. Yes and no. Yes: like students, we are evaluated thru a rubric, using evidence & by a human (& all of the subjectivity that goes along w/ that). No: students are evaluated over 180 days using multiple measures. We R evaluated once or twice for as few as 30 minutes. #ohedchat
What an awesome #ohedchat with amazing reflection and sharing about the teacher/admin evaluation process. A few more questions to go and then more #Olympics to enjoy!
Walk-through followed by a short, focused conversation. The "observation lesson plan" is not an accurate snapshot of how teachers plan day to day. #ohedchat
A4: Very similar. I know a major impact on teacher’s evaluation is the growth of their students...in many cases, that’s how I look at my students. I try to preach on trying to get better every day. This is applied to myself as a teacher and my students! #GrowthMindSet#ohedchat
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Me: I don't care what you taught, I care what they learned.
True or false? I mean I do care what they taught. But I care MORE about what they learned. Right? #ohedchat
A4: I think it does, yes. I also see opportunities aligning OTES and OPES. High quality leaders model what we ask teachers to do almost exactly. Tenets of leadership parallel high quality instruction #ohedchat
A4 - I love my supervisor. He is a great man. But, I would never just sit in one spot and type. That never allows for true evaluations. You miss tone, connections, the ability to discuss learning and most importantly all the little details during great teaching. #ohedchat
A4. I believe it does when we are looking at it based on growth. We set personal growth goals and are evaluated based on this along with a data component. Ss set goals in the fall based on MAP scores. #ohedchat
A4 It may be semantics, but this idea challenges my thinking, often. Wondering...
Is a teacher's job to "evaluate"? Or is it to "assess"? And if it's to assess, is it to assess the students? Or the teaching AND learning? #ohedchat
A4: the whole process feels out of touch. Test kids because that proves what? I know not popular to say but jobs aren't looking for kids that can do test well. They want outside the box thinkers. I think the evaluation process for teachers is moving in the right direct
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I agree!! There are so many opportunities for learning throughout the school day that are not always planned out. A great teacher knows how to utilize these moments. #ohedchat
Me: I don't care what you taught, I care what they learned.
True or false? I mean I do care what they taught. But I care MORE about what they learned. Right? #ohedchat
A5: Having colleagues discuss instruction before, during and after their lessons is essential. We should encourage them to continue this throughout the evaluation process. It makes everyone better at what they do. #ohedchat
I'm with you on this. Lots of puzzled looks when you first establish that your priority is to talk about "learning". It's a spin on how we were taught...to teach. #ohedchat
We have to assess everything: Learner, learning, learning environment, home environment, ourselves. That's why "they" say it's the hardest job. Evaluation is just a part of it. #ohedchat
A4: no,not really. I choose a scenario to be observed, we have a conversation afterwards where my goals & plans are discussed. Have not had a scan-tron yet during an eval from @bobby__dodd 😂 #OhEdChat
A4: As a teacher in a tested subject area, I lived and breathed this evaluation for many years. Many parts of it align. However, in part, it’s unrealistic. #ohedchat
A4: I hope that teachers’ evaluations of students is similar in the aspect that feedback is given and a good conversation is had. We don’t just hand the teachers their rating without delving into a deep conversation about how the lesson went. #ohedchat
Yes!! Imagine how teaching and learning would be transformed if we embraced a "coach approach". Dru, the lightbulb over my head just went on, thanks to you! #ohedchat
A5. Great question! Within the OTES model, evaluation is individual. Sure - you can reference collaboration in the "prof responsibilities " section. However, teachers in silos, not sharing is still widely supported through these structures. #ohedchat
A5. It does if the conversation focuses on growth...this creates a coaching type environment which is collaborative. This requires a focus on Break Through Questioning or Cognitive Coaching type approaches #ohedchat
A5: as we have really made a concerted effort to give Ts PLC time, I have made that a bigger portion of my post conference conversation. That is where Ts are growing/changing. Not while filling out my pre-conf questionnaire #ohedchat
A5. Joining late as usual. Evaluation doesn’t always capture the “complete” picture, collaboration included. A connected and involved leader will know the skills of teachers & know what aspects are outside of the evaluation. #ohedchat
A5. In theory, the evaluation tool requires time 2 talk & collaborate thru pre- and post-observation conferences. However, in the pace of the day, those conferences can turn shorter & more abbreviated & less meaningful. Ugh. #ohedchat
I think it's an evolution of sorts, and it's our job to nudge that along. But if "we" look at learning together...isn't that why we do, what we do? #ohedchat
The best evaluation process Ive experienced is sitting down with a small group of students offering each other feedback. Teaching them to have constructive conversations is a valuable tool. The class becomes collaborative #ohedchat
A5 - While observations alone can be useful, I’ve found that through observing others and being observed that post lesson reflection is usually greater for growth than looking at a box with checks or even some sentences. We learn when we listen and discuss. #ohedchat
A5: Collaboration in my opinion opens a path for growth for both the teacher AND the administrator. I feel like with each evaluation I go through, I am able to take something new. #ohedchat
A5) I love finding something amazing a teacher is doing and then highlighting it during the next staff meeting or PD day. T need to quit being on an island. Great things are happening next door and they don't even know it! #ohedchat
watching some of our teachers dedicate themselves to these conversations has been powerful to watch. It isn't just a conference to discuss learning, it is an event to discuss knowledge. #ohedchat
watching some of our teachers dedicate themselves to these conversations has been powerful to watch. It isn't just a conference to discuss knowledge, it is an event to discuss learning. #ohedchat
A5) I love finding something amazing a teacher is doing and then highlighting it during the next staff meeting or PD day. T need to quit being on an island. Great things are happening next door and they don't even know it! #ohedchat
A5: With the right mindset from the evaluator and person being evaluated. Both need to realize this is a process to grow and get better. There is going to be good and areas that need improvement. Open communication and that strong relationship need to be the foundation.
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A5) I love finding something amazing a teacher is doing and then highlighting it during the next staff meeting or PD day. T need to quit being on an island. Great things are happening next door and they don't even know it! #ohedchat
A5: When time allows. I think admins are burdened by the amount of evals on their plate. The process becomes broken when we expect one person to collaborate and reflect with an unthinkable load. #ohedchat
#ohedchat I just had that convo with my principal yesterday. I actually feel bad that he has so much time tied up in evals that he is missing amazing things within the school.
A5: When time allows. I think admins are burdened by the amount of evals on their plate. The process becomes broken when we expect one person to collaborate and reflect with an unthinkable load. #ohedchat
Agree - esp at elementary level where sometimes only one admin in building. Add in IEP meetings, etc. - a lot for one. The GREAT ones do it though 😊. #OhEdChat#Inspired
A5: When time allows. I think admins are burdened by the amount of evals on their plate. The process becomes broken when we expect one person to collaborate and reflect with an unthinkable load. #ohedchat
Different mindset. "I said it once, they should know it" vs "I gotta figure out how they understand..." Some T resistant to change the "sage on the stage" classroom #ohedchat
A6: If evaluation was a food for educational growth, it would be a banana. A banana is perfect because you have to peel all the layers to get to what you want. Exactly like evaluation, get to what you want at the bottom. #ohedchat@barbersclass#barbersclass
The evaluation process in many places does not focus on true empowerment of teachers. We want teachers to be their best because they are intrinsically inspired. This is the same for our students. Only happens when a true trust level is built. #ohedchat
A6: lemon sorbet - cleanses the palate as you try new things and then evaluate if you like it or if it worked with your students #ohedchat#laboredmetaphor
