#caedchat Archive
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Sunday September 18, 2016
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For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting about changing HW in education with everyone at .
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Good evening ! It's been awhile, but I am pumped to be back! Todd, elem principal in CA!
You are the first one here - that makes you the winner :)
Great to have you Todd - been a long time since I've "seen" you
Excited to be here tonight
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Hi. Dave here from San Dimas High School
Hi Looking forward to hearing different HW policies. Other than flipped vids. Nada. https://t.co/8jaNG3GlbB
For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting about changing HW in education with everyone at .
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Rick Stevens from San Fran. This chat is my homework tonight
Hey everyone. 2nd grade, LA.
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I'm sure you hear it a lot - but "San Dimas high school football rules!"
Hello - I’m David, HS English teacher, writer/blogger
Good Evening! Anne from Ventura County. Can’t wait to weigh in on this conversation about homework.
8th Grade Math Teacher. Central Cali. :o)
Greetings This is Scott from Sacramento. Let's have an awesome evening!!!
- oh yeah...I see what you did there :)
Hello everyone. Brad Baker Principal in South Orange County. Ready for
Leila from Escondido here, about to engage in some "work at home" with my PLN. Homework with a purpose! ❤️
Lee from Salinas, CA - Program Manager, Math and Ed Tech.
Before we get started...Let's take a minute to introduce yourselves. Share who you are and where you’re from! Thanks
Is there a document with questions for tonight? Steve Davis from Cypress...Middle School teacher
Jeremiah, math nerd, Porterville, Ca super stoked to talk HW
Now we are officially an international chat!
Lisa, 5th grade, S. Monterey County
For those who're new...we do a “structured chat” with Question 1, Q1, with Answer 1, A1, to support all to participate!
Ryan - EdTech Coordinator in San Marcos. I stopped giving HW the last 2 years I was teaching and it was wonderful!
Hellooooo! Chris here, from Irvine. I teach History at a Costa Mesa Middle School. Sitting here grading homework.
Hi David! Hope your school year has begun well :)
Only the 4th or 5th Twitter Acct in 2 weeks.
To me this is clearly . No evidence is given. #
Kriscia, 4th grade, Poway,CA
Kirstin Barnard, 4th grade teacher from Ladera Ranch, CA!
Hi! Josie from Arcadia, CA. Teaching 4th. we were just talking about this
Scott Petri, High School History teacher, Los Angeles. 1st HW assignment was to interview parents about 9/11.
Rick Stevens fromSan Fran. 25 years in K12 as teacher & admin. Now consultant, web designer and math support
I have missed this great group of educators for too long!
It's crazy most Ss in school weren't even alive...man I'm old (:
Q1 (photo version) - Can we re-think homework so it fits the needs of teachers, students and parents? https://t.co/cUf28yJoKO
We're all better together, so happy to have you here. Look forward to learning tonight
Nancy, ed tech coach from Agoura Hills, CA. It's been too long since I've been at !
A2: Give Ss choice in how they do HW!
So long I don't think I have seen you new Twitter pic :)
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Hi - Brent in Orange County here!
John, Director of EdTech joining in late from San Juan Capistrano.
Although redundant...Scott from Sacto...Science TOSA at a K-8. Science Every Day for Every Kid!
A1: absolutely! we have changed how we teach yet have not changed our approach to HW
Q1 - HW is a controversial topic in education. Can we re-think homework so it fits the needs of teachers, students and parents?
Christy Flores, elementary school principal in Costa Mesa, joining in for
I assign projects and deadlines, if Ss don't use their time wisely, they give themselves hw.
A1 - please don't assign homework because you always have assigned homework
Sky - Teaching Chemistry at Foothill HS in Tustin
I know Q1 can be answered with a yes or no ... but please expand on your answer
It's from . Now I will need a new one from !
Or because you did HW when you were a student https://t.co/IU4V8h52Hg
A1 - please don't assign homework because you always have assigned homework
a1 HW seems to be a vestigial piece, Ed slow to adapt, seems for K9 at least, it doesn't have much of a place anymore
A1- Yes, but what does that look like? Some HW, No HW?
A1 we need to rethink and change mentality on HW. Trying to find the middle ground.
I figured - and congrats on
Joining a bit late, trying to multitask! Hi I'm Ashley! Middles school science teacher in Riverside
Before I begin participating,
I wanted to call🤓attn to the actual Research, esp for 🍎ElemEd. 😬 https://t.co/9jdH1ZcCUL
A1: Yes. homework policies SHOULD be reconsidered year after year. It may depend on the population you serve.
A1: what needs are we trying to meet with HW?
A1: Yes. We should rethink everything we do incl HW. With movement to , HW takes on new role.
Bethany- TOSA in Apple Valley - joining late
A1 - I think we need to rethink homework. It has to benefit kids. Skills Ss need today are different.
A1:Definitely! We all need to ask the question, “What is the purpose of HW?”Then go from their. Make it a shared decision
A1: Homework needs to be limited to independent practice of newly learned skills.
Noelle Franzen, HS English teacher in . Sorry I'm late'#!
Homework as classroom management makes me sad...
A1: I think the question is how do we change old mindsets about HW?!?
A1: Homework does not have a bearing on student success, so if assigned, we need to make it purposeful
A1: We can. We should... But will we? Changing culture can be tough.
A1 With flipped classroom model, I assign video lectures & projects. Scaffold clswrk to help Ss meet deadlines
But...with don't kids still have HW?
Hi all. K-8 TOA for 14 schools in 3 counties & T of 9th-12th grade Ss in an independent study school.
A1: yes, everything should be evaluated to make sure it's best for ss and families
A1: Absolutely! We need to consider the impact that hw has on students and parents - what will be beneficial for all 3 parties?
Tough but worth it...and I feel in this case, needed
A1: Yes, I hardly give any at all & tell parents to set timer for 30 minutes. Not done? Timer went off. Yes, you are.
I like it. WHat is your new mindset?
go for it and work through the growing pains.
Oh and I am over by the San Bernardino area :)
A1: answering with a question: do parents have a need vis à vis HW that’s different from students’ needs?
I'm observing more teachers are giving less homework, but parents still seem to expect it. How R we talking w/parents about this?
Ellen Burdge joining from San Francisco, Director of Teaching and Learning
Agree! I hear so many sides from parents, but need to have a buy in if we go with no HW.
A1: What he said. https://t.co/8vaUvStYFd
A1: Yes. homework policies SHOULD be reconsidered year after year. It may depend on the population you serve.
. No proven connection to ACADEMIC success for YOUNGER students.
So glad you are able to make it to this chat! Great to have an author on the subject with us!
Yes. Most important part of the Q is "needs of students."
I agree ! Culture change is the biggest challenge. Creating a shared purpose is powerful! https://t.co/tmmkJY6VE2
A1: We can. We should... But will we? Changing culture can be tough.
A1: flipped the HW so students are exposed to concepts before the teacher can do their magic!
A1:My university courses require pre-work before the class session. Class sessions were to develop, apply, and collaborate w/ Ss
. What's the mindset you are trying to change?
A1: It's probably a good idea to define what is meant by hw; not everything done at home is good (or bad)
A1: would love to rethink hw, but feel so many Ss don't have the support at home to help.
A1: I've taken a whole new approach to HW - more classwork, stamping work, gone more digital, giving more feedback,hoping it works
Not all students have access to tech at home - Flipped only works in some areas... https://t.co/IYcblHJpYl
A1 With flipped classroom model, I assign video lectures & projects. Scaffold clswrk to help Ss meet deadlines
It's a bit late EST, but stumbled upon the topic. https://t.co/lq4tMgT7E7
So glad you are able to make it to this chat! Great to have an author on the subject with us!
And what is behind that need?
Is this what happens in college when Ss are assigned 3-5 books, a midterm, 5 pp paper & a final?
The toughest part for our site is those who believe in constant HW. NO movement there
Completely off topic - but have you seen driving around in the red convertible? 🙃 😬🍎
. That is another reason to rethink it.
A1: I think got it with the meaning. It can be amazing and it can be horrible.
So true...my daughter's teacher is now giving an optional reading log?!
Yes, it is still HW. Question becomes whether Ss have necesary support at home to engage in .
A1: Homework should be extra credit. That'd satisfy parents & Ss who want it without penalizing Ss who don’t have resources
A1: I hear a lot of the research for younger kids, but would like to know more about older Ss/Adults.
. This assumes that academic success for Ss is completely measurable by test scores (which I thought was a sore point)
A1 Ideally, hw, if & when assigned, should be personalized to the needs of each S. Have Ss help decide what they need/want for hw
Exactly! The only thing primary students should do is read and maybe practice math facts...
I know how you feel! Depends on the demographics
A1) Don't make it nightly. Make it based on deadlines. That's real world!
How do we make it purposeful if it has no bearing on student success? My Ss simply have time 2 make better https://t.co/wCUl0uvI82
A1: Homework does not have a bearing on student success, so if assigned, we need to make it purposeful
A1: If schools define learning, then to do, or not to do homework, and what kind, falls into place
A1: And, you don't want kids practicing something the wrong way.
High school literature teacher (+ journalism & yearbook) at a private school in Southern Cali
A1- I believe hmwk provides a S w/a supportive home an opportunity to get ahead but we need 2 help those Ss w/out the support 2
Nice - I like that for upper grades. Do you think it would work with primary grades too?
So if no HW then why should teachers spend hrs grading essays at home? I just spent 8 hrs grading APUSH essays at home.
A 7 yo w/HW in every area does a column a night, but it requires a variety of skills, most not mastered, so she practices wrong
I assign a series of videos with a range of due dates to check note-taking habits
Agreed and perfectly phrased! https://t.co/HIXcv6yJTN
A1) Don't make it nightly. Make it based on deadlines. That's real world!
A1 -- who makes homework decisions -- admin or teacher??
. Again, u assume that test score proficiency is a true measure of student academic success. U willing to go that far
A1: Feedback yes, traditional homework, no
What is your definition of Homework?
vertical alignment is needed.
Glad to join! Ali from San Diego
I'd say it should be purposeful but some Ts see 40 "drill & kill" problems as purposeful. We need s voice & choice
Homework has a negligible impact on primary grades according to Hattie
What about band and practicing scales and rudiments? Nightly is key...
A1: in some cases, admin. reacting to school board? happened in my district.
A1 HW is a polarizing subject for pros and parents. Due to an inauthentic assessment, it should be rare
Same can be said for sports right? Kids need muscle memory to 'master' a sport
That's the point...have them read anything (fiction, nonfiction), study for a test...a worksheet is not homework
don't bonus points create artificial ceilings (my daughter loves to have 108% in a subject to watch me twitch)😜
RT: A1: We definitely need to rethink homework. It's ineffective in its traditional format. https://t.co/4ouuFcHxsl
A1: But what about deliberate practice. Done in school or at home?
A1 I think HW has a place in high school education: be it reading, homework, or finishing classwork. Just stay away from busywork
HW must be purposeful, meaningful, and at an independent level
I taught 1stGr.
Ss NEED ➕ incentives, motivation + encouragement to📚read. Are alternatives present?
Our computer labs are open til 7pm every night. Local libraries offer free internet
A1.2 I think HW of the future will slowly wane, though only if legitimate research supports any claim. (look for A1.3)
So true! When I was assigned new prep, I remember being up to near midnight most nights doing my homework,
Cant have it both ways. Cant say that test scores dont matter AND rely on test score proficiency to disprove HW effectiveness.
I can't with 40 probs! If Ss can show mastery in 3-5 then that's all they need. Less HW more play!
I don't assume anything...and I never believe that a test score is true measure of proficency.
Not seeing connection here. Are you saying that as a paid adult you have HW, so a 10 yr old should too? https://t.co/FM7QTDt93e
So if no HW then why should teachers spend hrs grading essays at home? I just spent 8 hrs grading APUSH essays at home.
A1:Think of all the wasted Ts time and energy monitoring if HW was done and all the misguided assigning of detention makes me sad
I'm just saying if HW is assigned it should be limited in scope, practicing already learned skills, and purposeful
RT When I was assigned new prep, I remember being up to near midnight most nights doing my homework,
or should be "when the learners want to do it" (ie passion projects)
- i think so, plus parent expectation - its got to become a campus conversation
Q2 - How do we ensure that HW is purposeful and extends the learning rather than causing misconceptions or frustration at home?
A1: Homework needs to be purposeful and intentional. Is parent input on hw important?
It could work if it builds and culminates into a larger project. Teaches time mgmt
Then u cant say that research disproves effectiveness of HW.
A2: I don't know that it can...that's why I used to ask parents to do extension activities or discussion Qs during family dinner.
Yes, I see students all over campus with piles of homework. What if they get it, but after the second problem?
A1.3 Educational research doesn't meet the strict standards of natural science due to the complexity of variables in any system
A1. I always assign HipHughes vids. All the time. Like 5X every night. And then use that freed up time in the class being a FOLE.
Agreed. Too many HS Ss graduate without writing a 5 pp paper. NCLB movement killed research papers.
Exactly! That’s why is should be given judiciously, especially in elementary school.
A2 I think there needs to be an agreement on what "purposeful" HW is.
A2: Make sure the hw isn't busy work give feedback and choice
A2 - i guess if learning is shown - but there are many other options to see this
Sure I can...Hattie and Marzano have both shown that homework is NOT an indicator of student success.
You can also save many websites & videos to flashdrive & distribute those who have tech but no net.
Q2: You need to create systems of collaboration among Ts. Creates accountability and conversation about HW.
Going to push you on this one, my friend: it EXPECTS time management, doesn't TEACH it. Huge difference. https://t.co/YntvslBQkg
It could work if it builds and culminates into a larger project. Teaches time mgmt
Very true! +100 RT A2 I think there needs to be an agreement on what "purposeful" HW is.
Am I the only one who questions Hattie's findings?
A2: Project based learning is a way to make sure that homework is truly about application of learning and not mindless busy work.
A2: make it meaningful by aligning it to their lives. My ss read an article every week, but it's carefully chosen for relevance
A2) Needs to lead to something larger. Can't just be independent practice. Keep that for the classroom.
Using test score proficiency. (And they use meta-analysis = a fraud).
A2 HW should be legit practice, or memorizing crucial vocab. Adv Ss need higher-order thinking too
It's certainly not a perfect solution, but for those who insist on HW, it may be a starting point.
A2: Differentiate hw to ensure that students can work at an independent level and actually benefit from the repeated practice
A2) HW could be an agreement w/ students on what is actually going to be helpful for them.
How do you make sure it's relevant to all your Ss?
A2 Unless it's to check opinions (e.g. no right/wrong answer). HW should ALWAYS be a continuation of a skill, not a new concept.
I have not heard anyone question them in the past - what do you question?
A2: purposeful homework looks very dif. at dif levels. This year, mine is Ss driven w choice. Low risk
A2) Why even give HW? Ss are in school for 7 hours / day. Let them go home & disengage. Don't we do that 4 work?
At the moment u might feel
🍎T is "hip" but how will u feel when Standardized📉Tests reflect📚poorly?
or does nobody reading 5pp research papers kill it? Blogs & infographics more meaningful (when done right)
A1:1thought HW could be akin to a musician or an athlete practicing. Honing skills solidifying fundamentals engaging in situations
- i cannot even start to think of what might happen on my campus if we had a no HW policy "its tradition"
A2: Incorporate software that differentiates practice.
Yes and will probably include choice https://t.co/51SSd4fGKU
A2) HW could be an agreement w/ students on what is actually going to be helpful for them.
I'm just not sure why we accept his work as "bible". His findings seems really macro and generalized to me.
Love! A2) Why even give HW? Ss are in school for 7 hours/day. Let them go home & disengage. Don't we do that 4 work?
A2: we make sure if it important enough to assign it is important enough to give feedback for reinforcement
Higher ED requires Ss to keep up with the class & the global status quo - a necessity for HS kiddos https://t.co/ZX5ey1H21d
A1 I think HW has a place in high school education: be it reading, homework, or finishing classwork. Just stay away from busywork
. Not sure I agree with this - extra credit tends to benefit high performers more than struggling students.
Last time I checked i get paid for 185 days a year for 7hrs a day. Not after school, weekends, etc.
That's CRAZY on so many levels. https://t.co/Rum2pp0QoW
A1: Homework should be extra credit. That'd satisfy parents & Ss who want it without penalizing Ss who don’t have resources
What makes you think it is a fraud? Just because you may not agree with it doesn't make it a fraud.
A2 Give students choice. We have a "no homework" school but kids work on their Genius Hour projects at home... by choice.
Got it...that is a valid point
A2: HW needs to be purposeful; designed so it can be done alone by S. Yet frustration ensues w/o parent support.
A2 I have many Ss also taking 2-4 AP classes. They appreciate me lightening up on HW and use class time wisely
doesn't work in all areas. I work in a high poverty area. Tech not in homes.
Then why are you in this chat?
We need to connect to the s' world and up DOK, but give s' time. I like the idea of deadlines someone posted =)
feel free to question (that's very important) but Hattie's emphasis on relationships important https://t.co/9anFyzkDEU
. Say the teachers pursuing PD on their Sunday night :)
I haven’t looked ahead at the questions yet, but I see a few ppl starting to distinguish btwn HW for HS vs. HW for younger
Making HW extra credit is making the problem worse.
Check out S.Purdy's Teaching Students to Write. He has methods to help reach & teach, while not grading every essay.
A2: How can you support equity at home? In HS, I gave HW, but put in video supports to give students help.
A2) HW must be meaningful and at a students' independent level. Parents should not have to instruct.
Meta-analysis is fraud when used in social sci b/c the individual expts have vastly diffferent controls. Its voodoo
Really? Extra credit? I don't think I can get on that idea.
A2- I don't give many HW assignments at all. The only time they get HW from me is under a project deadline. They're overloaded.
I TOTALLY agree with that. And Hattie isn't the only one who says that.
I have found if I am flexible on due dates, or give a range, Ss find a way to get it done.
Ditto! I offer choice HW,Ss go home, reflect on personal goals & choose an activity helps them personally. https://t.co/a1sHlPTxyD
A2 Give students choice. We have a "no homework" school but kids work on their Genius Hour projects at home... by choice.
All Ss need higher order thinking. :)
hmmm, i have homework every night as a tchr -- dont you? could be considered homework!!
So how do we break tradition? My team got rid of spelling homework and tests...so far no complaints.
A2: You hit the nail on the head. - including correction - is the essential ingredient in assigning HW.
How many days/hours do kids get paid to be there? https://t.co/MYTePkduyt
Last time I checked i get paid for 185 days a year for 7hrs a day. Not after school, weekends, etc.
if they insist on doing homework ok -but emphasize descriptive feedback over score
But it doesn't punish Ss for not doing HW. The ex cred can be minimal.
to me its like saying the iPad doesn't affct learnng. If its a paperweight, it doesn't. If used well, it transforms.
MANY Masters classes don't have "HW" they have "show up prepared to discuss" HS sts need more direction but its a goal
Q3 right around the corner...
Do you feel the same way about homework for elementary vs high school students?
maybe I missed it, but have not read an article that proves a correlation between HW and Success.
A2) If a supervisor or boss asked us 2 do what some of our Ss are asked 2 do for HW, we would call them unreasonable
Exactly...I'm testing the grounds to see how it works. Science in action
. HW policies w/ time guidelines tricky; normal variation maybe 50-100% in how long kids need for a task
I do it because it's just as much a part of my job as a students job is to spend the time it takes to learn.
Yes. Grading practices is a big topic all on its own. https://t.co/wFBitA6h3P
if they insist on doing homework ok -but emphasize descriptive feedback over score
I see literacy as reading...& think that Ps can help reinforce math facts...
was just giving ex. (in 140 characters)
did you totally remove -- or just replace w/ alternative (just wondering)
Yes, but feedback can be done in small groups, peer, or even self. Not always teacher driven
yeah, but I put in more time than I'm paid cuz it enhances my capacity as a T.(i.e. twitter)
How are you defining success?
. But that's not equitable - struggling students have to do more work to catch up & are less likely to be able to.
Is this a generic quote, or is it from someone?
I'm in it because I am willing to take the time to learn. Students should take that time too.
really this depends on the age.
I think this comment was meant for who asked the question. https://t.co/MIGMKXkBvc
I do it because it's just as much a part of my job as a students job is to spend the time it takes to learn.
& i dont have an idea "yet" on how to start chipping at tradition
Generic...sort of a summary of what I have heard from others
Q3 - “Students need HW as part of the learning experience to prepare them for college and to teach them responsibility.” Thoughts?
A3. Disagree. HW doesn't teach responsibility. For ex. many Ps lie on reading logs. What does that teach kids?
Actually, teaching is the only profession that has the employees take the work home.
A3: Students need to learn how to inquire, research, and communicate to be successful adults. College or not.
Agree! Encouraging colleagues to give "x amount of time" on something vs. task that can vary for each S.
Maybe Ts should look at the amount of work they take home as well. I did. Waaay tooo much!
A2: HW should only be given if the concept has been taught. It has to be meaningful and not just a lot of repetition.
A2: HW should only be given if the concept has been taught. It has to be meaningful and not just a lot of repetition.
my oldest is there for 7 hrs a day. Plus early & late for extra classes +other school activities +hwk
Yes! Many sts for example take much longer to read My pt is that's the only school given specification
Not sure about that. My wife is a CPA and she works at home often. Same with my lawyer bro-in-law
A3) I make the argument for less at lower levels, but the truth is as a ComColl Prof, I do assign a LOT of homework.
Not every student has a computer at home, still not ubiquotous
A3: Students need time for practice, reflection, goal setting, collaboration... And time to apply learning to new situations
not possible for AP classes. Most students don't have the skills for peer grading.
My elem school has stopped wt traditional hw this year & emphasizing volume rdg. Great feedback from parents & kids!
Self-directed problem solvers and critical thinkers is what our future needs
True. I ask P @ BTSN how many have ever lied. All raised hands. They liked my HW idea Many thkd me. https://t.co/EbdP6GxFPb
A3. Disagree. HW doesn't teach responsibility. For ex. many Ps lie on reading logs. What does that teach kids?
A3 I'm sorry. In elementary I have seen kids punished for not doing homework. That doesn't teach responsibility. It does not.
A3) Malarkey! HW is not real life. It's a school practice. Corporate America dissuades taking work home. OVERTIME!
hmm, truly? My friends who are an accountant, a doctor, & a lawyer might disagree w/ that
Teach them the skills, maybe?
knowing a number of secondary students who work & take care of family members, hwk an uncomfortable insistence
I am talking about so little extra credit that it wouldn't even make a difference.
A3: Yes, I agree. It's the culture we live in. But does our HW really prepare Ss for college HW?
I would wholeheartedly agree with that. Communication is vital.
A3 Some Ss need HW to learn deadlines. Others, not so much. 1 S turned in a 25 min podcast instead of a paper.
A3: students will always need to practice learned skills after class, how that looks is the real question.
. and yet for HS English classes, need Ss to read outside of class. So, I try to go down the middle re: time estimate.
A3) Life is about deadlines & due dates over a period of time. Look at bills. We have a month to pay them.
A3: Maybe we should model hw after college assignments. Projects instead of worksheets. No busy work
Respectfully disagree. https://t.co/feKWI3mqUq
I'm in it because I am willing to take the time to learn. Students should take that time too.
A: 4 elementary kids: get them a dog, teach them to be responsible for their belongings, many other more productive paths than HW
A3: Disagree. Ss can learn responsibility & time management in other ways besides hours of HW.
A3 - False, homework can reinforce irresponsibility too, if HW helped, we wouldn't see the same Ss missing required HW yr after yr
A3 Many Ss already have tons of responsibilities outside of class. Sports, music, caring for siblings, translating for parents.
Awesome! We have a "Malarkey" in tonight!
Agreed My school is 1:1 so all sts have laptops, but I have to show how to "download" websites etc.
A3: When should kids start learning "responsibility"?
A3-There are many different ways to teach responsibility. Our dept discussions revolved around late work this year, not HW.
We use Genius Hour to help teach deadlines. Or Google classroom. But HW does not "teach" that.
Pushing back a bit because edu is not binary: what if worksheet is a graphic organizer, not a word search? https://t.co/F0LsrL1Tfo
That's the point...have them read anything (fiction, nonfiction), study for a test...a worksheet is not homework
A3) And if we don't pay on time, are lights or phone or credit card shut off at midnight? No. You get a penalty
Coming from a HS discipline the concept of HW is different
Please don't forget the Power of Yet. Students don't have those skills...YET.
A3: I have watched HS Ss in family working on many nights as HW. Very cool when T responded in real time
all bill by the hour......right? 😜
proving that homework is a hot topic!
In elementary HW only punishes the parents.
A2: School is the cookie dough. HW is the sprinkles. We only need a little bit. Too much and we're smothered.
A3:Make it about the Ss. HW should be about personal growth-looking different for every Ss
A3 With younger Ss, I found out that it becomes more Ps responsibility. Ss haven't grasped that responsibility concept just yet.
A3) And if we adults are late on bills, what do we do? We call & ask for understanding & an extension.
A3 -- traditionally, yes -- many teachers/instructors do have it indoctrinated that it is necessary as an educator to assign
I was thinking the same thing! Now all we need is a "kerfuffle." https://t.co/rRQ6Am9f5t
Awesome! We have a "Malarkey" in tonight!
Maybe colleges need to rethink traditional HW
nice! RT 4 elem kids: get them a dog, teach them to be responsible for their belongings, more productive than HW
I know a HS T who does Google Hangouts with Ss in the evenings as HW.
A3 We have community service hrs in 5th grade instead of traditional homework. Community contribution is so important!
But is reading log homework if one is just documenting what is being read, especially for fun? https://t.co/fc08cH0a9b
So true...my daughter's teacher is now giving an optional reading log?!
A3) College is not even about HW. It's about responsibility & initiative. Professors will not "babysit".
Lol. The truth is we are all here on Sunday night as part of our PLN, our own learning for
A3- Deadlines teach them responsibility as well. Do we accept late projects/essays?
A3: Just throwing it out there: How will our Ss compete as adults against the rest of the world if they had no HW?
I don't mind you pushing back at all...but how would you use a graphic organizer for hmwk?
Whether homework or school work, hopefully math isn't mindless repetition...
If S doesn't have time managmnt skills, giving deadline doesn't teach those skills. Sets up for failure. https://t.co/i2FOdfGQ9z
A3 Some Ss need HW to learn deadlines. Others, not so much. 1 S turned in a 25 min podcast instead of a paper.
A3: they need to learn good habits & skills. The reality is that their real life IS school and home. As they mature, they gain...
. College assignments are projects? U should see the HW I assign.
From the beginning but only with things that they can comprehend and are invested in.
😱The HORROR. Complete sincerity + absolutely zero sarcasm.
📚logs are 👼🏻 to 👧🏼👦🏽Writing+ Reading🙃
My Ss are masters of their phone, yet can't use computer well. More time spent on phone... https://t.co/RCKldmZBd9
Agreed My school is 1:1 so all sts have laptops, but I have to show how to "download" websites etc.
. I understand your point but you can teach deadlines without homework...
A3 Only if needed for the next day....not just quiz, but for real. Flashcards? Sure, that saves class time for discussion
Hi Sonal from the Inland Empire here. Joining in late but just caught up!
I find (especially to start) sts need projects broken down into smaller assignments e.g. HW. Or they dont finish
kids should always be learning about responsibility. Lots of opportunities too (performances, special events)
Oh man...I am getting buried in this chat tonight! So fast...
A3) HW might not serve the same purpose for some Ss vs. others. Reading for homework is beneficial to Ss of all levels
There's some research about positive effects of adequate sleep. Can't say the same about effects of HW. https://t.co/LmagCaLjcV
I agree. They need time to decompress and let their little brains rest.
I'd agree with that as well...
Do you think there is any validity in students memorizing math facts?
HW in college is online discussion boards and synthesizing reading...lots of writing.
I was thinking along the same lines. How do you use deadlines w/o HW?
Not from me. https://t.co/MZIdjClVzP
lots of projecting "...because I do ...students should".
Where does this belief stem from?
. Yes, IMO good HW does. Bad HW doesnt. So assign good HW
Boom! RT There's research about positive effects of adequate sleep. Can't say the same about effects of HW.
funny, I use to kill "deadlines" G7 parent asked when learning "done". I hoped by G12
I need them to read outside of class as well (history), but w/varying reading levels, it's tricky.
A3: My concern is that we water-down Ss experiences with reduced HW while competitive Ss are going full blast
When I was in elem as reading specialist, I used reading logs to positive effect. Often discussed reading with Ss.
I see a few sts try to write essays on phones We teach basic computing in 9th, but then there are exceptions
I think math opens up the door for real-world, project based learning like almost nothing else!
the understanding of what it takes to succeed. This skill building may not always be HW, but it is mastery and meeting deadlines
A3: As a T of primary students, HW is just for a little practice & so parents can get a glimpse of their child's proficiency.
Nobody wants busy work! It creates more busy work for Ts. Double silliness. https://t.co/9g4GhQhujO
A3: Maybe we should model hw after college assignments. Projects instead of worksheets. No busy work
Tqkint credit 4 the malarkey because that's what it is when we say HW teaches responsibility https://t.co/EJa7OPC7Gh
a3) homework, if reinforced should be meaningful to the students
I'm officially assigning tomorrow, due Wednesday, but giving Ss option to get started earlier if fits their schedule
Kids are learning how to be people. They need time free of stress. Time to explore other
Because some Ps want their Ss to do HW. If you leave it up to kids or don't assign it, Ps get upset.
and if you contact ahead of time...get extension/alternate arrangements. Hmm even if you call after...
What if it was less about meeting deadlines and more about meeting goals?Does the language change the impact?
Twitter keeps trying to delete me FOREVER. ~of like📚🎥Twilight but
🚫HappyEverAfter. 😬🍎😐
See...there's the difference...creating something and tying it to applicable skill is awesome to me...
Love it RT Tqkint credit 4 the malarkey because that's what it is when we say HW teaches responsibility
I'm thinking PBL with some components taken home to work on. Intro in class, complete independently
Q4 - If we are embracing personalized learning, is it possible to do the same with HW? How you would/could do this in your role.
Taking credit 4 the malarkey because that's what it is when we say HW teaches responsibility https://t.co/RCQt7JjBpS
IMHO as a tutor with challenged Ss, yes, math facts are important. It's about fluency.
Then maybe we should address the expectations of those Ps instead of bowing down to them.
A3: As a parent of a high schooler, HW is dreadful and if it doesn't support the student's performance in class, is unnecessary.
Deadlines don't TEACH, they just EXPECT.
Is there lesson plan attached to this "teaching" you speak of? https://t.co/fye2ziZetm
A3- Deadlines teach them responsibility as well. Do we accept late projects/essays?
We use a timeline to help Ss have a frame to work inside. It is flexible but some kids need a frame
Tell that to the AP teachers & the College Board. I have a few parents that would argue w/you too.
. I see the point, but seems more valuable to educate the parents than to trick them.
A4: Any task that is open-ended and/or provides choice lends itself to personalized learning. Why wait for homework to do this?
her choice. 12 classes in an 8 block rotation. Music & Sports to enhance her academics.
there isn't anything punitive attached but rather a time to reflect
A4: We need good and we need the infrastructure for students to access the internet and tech at home.
. Duration needs to be carefully weighed. At higher grade levels we increase the HW load bit more. I suggest 8 min/GL
AP is a whole other beast...oh, I mean subject
A4 - i work in tech lab, kids have blogs, i have never assigned writing outside of class, yet 60% are - on their own -- homework?
So, I would argue for more nuance in much of the Homework debate. It's not a this or that proposition https://t.co/VGMzWeoaaa
See...there's the difference...creating something and tying it to applicable skill is awesome to me...
Can't remember my boss giving the same "assignment" to all and collecting it for a grade the next morn. https://t.co/lfHEARmDD4
A3: Just throwing it out there: How will our Ss compete as adults against the rest of the world if they had no HW?
My Ss completely mostly word problems. How would u categorize that?
But...we can't expect to be the answer. That is just HW in another form
A4: Of course. Use HW vids and assign based on results of baseline test, or reassign based on formative assessment.
A3 Students need to be able to read and write critically. If homework focuses on this, then yes it prepares them for college
A4:My Ss are responsible for working on tpersonal goals nightly then submitting a reflection at the end of the week
A4 Personalized learning is easier with K-5, very challenging in secondary. LMS helps, but class discussions are the best though..
I have seen this too and it makes me cringe. Especially when the children don’t have the support at home.
or teach parents how to incorporate learning into fam time! Cooking in math
A4) Give students the flipped classroom experience...
she's my teen rebel who: uses cursive script to finish hwk that earns her bonus %s .....sigh.
But have you ever been assigned 1-39 (odd)? Ugh!
, yes but technology can help a TON in how to serve 200 students a day
Correct...nuance can be hard in 140 characters...
Another thing I try to remember is many of our Ss have two homes and have to manage what's available at both
Yes, long live critical thinking, open-ended inquiry & choice!
A4: HW can play to s' strengths by offering voice and choice. We can offer choice boards or menus
A4.1 Digital discussion can be cool, but digital citizenship must be expressly taught and enforced Equitable???
As long as it isn't "do 20 mins of __ tonight" because I have to do x mins of that program a week
A3: Yes, I accept late work. There’s penalty in appropriate category but I still want to see S. work, give feedback
NOW you're talkin'!
https://t.co/nexIKO6zpy
or teach parents how to incorporate learning into fam time! Cooking in math
For me, it's an extension of CW or a way to help them cement a reading. So it's not waiting for HW, it just extends to HW
A4: choices! I give multiple options when it comes to writing responses, even work time in class. Tell Ss: do what works for you
Same here. Was hoping for something EYE OPENING and INNOVATIVE! haha
YES!! VERY EQUITABLE!!! Teach them all!
I've had Ss say they simply can't do HW on Tuesday due to being at dad's house and he wants to spend time with them
I agree that the parents need to be educated, but it's a long and hard fight. The ex credit is just in the meantime.
No - I don't count reading as HW. Reading in primary grades should be expected - IMHO
A4: Homework that is part of a well planned project based learning experience would have to be personalized.
A4: I think personalized HW is done with & shared collaborative work - docs, draw, sheets,
A4- as I sit here listening to my own HS son discussing his Hmwk I find it had a purpose & he learned more doing it.
A4) Personalized HW is possible! I have done skill binders, where each student has choice skill work for their specific needs.
A4: 😬🍎Ts don't already differentiate Hmwk
the way Instruction + Assessments are differentiated?🤔
I feel lost in TwilightZone📺
Exactly. It punishes those without home support, those who struggle, this deepening their disdain for school and learning
So fluency builds on just memorizing math facts and gives them a purpose and practicality
. If u r (1) measuring impact purely as academic and (2) assuming tests measure that impact accurately, and...
lots of silliness with hw. Example, a class where time is wasted but then work is sent home
or those old fashioned report cards (so glad those are in the past...😜 almost...)
Yeah... but you're assuming you are ALREADY hired. If a boss knew you weren't skilled, he/she would not hire you.
Reading shouldn't be HW. It should be encouraged, promoted, but doesn't have to be assigned. https://t.co/WuSk9FKl8N
No - I don't count reading as HW. Reading in primary grades should be expected - IMHO
Long live TicTacToe Vocabulary :) https://t.co/cyOf4sVHPN
A4: HW can play to s' strengths by offering voice and choice. We can offer choice boards or menus
A:4 Let Ss explore based on their passions. We host STEM expo, invention convention, engineering challenges, 'genius hour' at home
. (3) assuming that the metaanalysis voodoo performed by the edu-gurus is meaningful.
I certainly agree with NCTM position on procedural fluency, but that includes basic facts
A4 Yes--it's possible & works. Not always for every T & S, but def. possible & productive. S sets goal, chooses, reflects after.
How about asking S to write the sequel, alt ending, or next chapter? Then reading must be part of it.
Sorry, Dave. I think you lost me here. https://t.co/FQnXQet9Iv
Yeah... but you're assuming you are ALREADY hired. If a boss knew you weren't skilled, he/she would not hire you.
Or a Rubric? Valid excuses should matter + shouldn't deduct from points.
Learning is what matters😬🍎🤔
Taking work home is a CHOICE and an OPTION in the real world - and we get paid OVERTIME for it!
A4: Provide choices within subject matter. Teach accountability. Ask students: How can you learn best?
My students have 24 problems a week. "Calculate the tension in the rope..." Certainly NOT projects.
How many students do you have and what grade level?
School gets kids 7 hrs/day. Families deserve time w/them, too. https://t.co/r6I0tfbYDU
I've had Ss say they simply can't do HW on Tuesday due to being at dad's house and he wants to spend time with them
Ahhh... hello my friend! Nice to "see" you. https://t.co/JuUnyjjDEi
. (3) assuming that the metaanalysis voodoo performed by the edu-gurus is meaningful.
A4) If Ss know goals, they can work together to define what they need to do for HW to reach said goals.
There are plenty of work at home hours that are not overtime - salaried positions just expect it
If HW is the secret to success, why are our Ss not more successful? HW can actually cause failure.
A4: Have Ss to chose what they want to learn for their hmwk. Learn to play a guitar, cook a pie from scratch, discuss fashion
. In many jobs you learn necessary skills on the job. Employers want you to have capacity to learn.
Have you had this discussion w/your child's 1stGr Teacher? I consult😬🍎
Perhaps a good in class assignment. Would like to see Ss read for pleasure, not compliance. https://t.co/qPcuc8VSHO
How about asking S to write the sequel, alt ending, or next chapter? Then reading must be part of it.
In fact, in my entire 18-year career as college S, I can only recall projects in the fluffy blow-off classes.
A4 it is possible - but gotta know the learners and their families to assure equity - "can" doesn't mean "able" or "will" do hwk
Tweetdeck - stop being a jerk. Load all the tweets!
I was not my twins' teacher, but kind of was, b/c T send home so much HW, almost 90min/night :-/ (they're smart btw) :-)
BOOM!!!! YES!!!! https://t.co/fPuFdM2SAQ
A4: Have Ss to chose what they want to learn for their hmwk. Learn to play a guitar, cook a pie from scratch, discuss fashion
Use Google Classroom for assignments and set deadlines.
i wish teachers would embrace std blogging, yet, i also wonder, if it was assigned, would it diminish?
In what way does HW cause failure?
Are you asking me? No - I read 15 mins with my 1st grader just before the chat - for fun, not HW
That's a tough one. Many Ps don't read for pleasure. No modeling. No judgement either.
Yes and reading logs are lame. Just read. ;)
I think failure comes when the HW is assigned but not completed?
A3 - Optional Homework allows for individualized work by Ss choice based on Ss understanding their learning needs guided by T
VERY interesting; curious Ts should calc. grade a struggling student would have if HW removed from total https://t.co/vDK6NPTVzK
If HW is the secret to success, why are our Ss not more successful? HW can actually cause failure.
depends....I've read/seen some sequels that make me wonder if there is any connection to the 1st....
A4: You could start doing Genius Hour in your classroom. Part of it might be done at home.
Q5 - How do we move students from HW compliance to giving them choice and involving them in what they do for HW?
Fine..but at least they are WRITING!!!
There was a 💖warming📰about a particular area where Ts decided to axe Hmwk for that very👨👩👧👦reason.
But why is HW calculated at all? If is so, at what % of the grade?
Addressed access issue by having it a 2 day assignment, so Ss could come in to complete during breaks.
Why do kids receive F's? The 0's in the gradebook for not doing or turning in HW
8th grade here with 192 students...Skill Binders likely not happening here...but glad they R in elem
. I use standards based grading. Most essays get 4 independent grades in separate standards/categories.
Certain core topics require the HW - such as Math & Chemistry !!
If HW is so successful, then why are all home-school kids top ranked in SAT/ACT?
Dont get me wrong: I support (in-class) projects. But the hard STEM classes in college dont rely on them much.
. or without they might learn to do it themselves rather than have others manage their learning We over manage or Ss
Not the only reason...but sometimes part of it
Now THAT'S a Good Question! https://t.co/mTch7ieG07
If HW is the secret to success, why are our Ss not more successful? HW can actually cause failure.
A5) Maybe tiered exercises where students can explore more levels until they feel comfortable?
A5 - in elementary, not sure choice is best option - but busy work for the sake of tradition needs to be re-evaluated -- IMHO
In 1stGr it is. You aren't my Admin.
1stGr version: You aren't the boss of me.
don’t ask me! My grade categories are based on standards, not type of task.
I know that once upon a time I made up categories for % weights and hoped they'd work (then change 'em)
A5: Engaging lessons that are relevant to Ss lives. Inspire them to want to learn more
Do you have difficulty accepting other Professionals have differing opinions?
A5: Type of homework is reflective of the type of teaching. Define learning, grow teachers to be reflective and student centered
A5) Whatever they don't finish during class time they do at home if they have a quiet place to do it. Most Ss don't
Standard HW. Sts read the text we'll work with next class What they do to show they read varies I give examples & ideas
i believe if i told my kids they had to blog, they would not - i truly do
A5: make it interesting & applicable.
A5: Change the instruction to change the homework
Nope! I love it. We should have deep discussions like this and question it all.
I'd give Ps questions that correspond w/strategy for the week.
AP has become an arms race for gifted & talented Ss. Narrowed curric. Teaching to the test=No fun.
A5: Any learning activity requires relevance. Without it, compliance is the best you can hope for when it comes to homework.
Are there ways we can encourage it? Perhaps support parents more? https://t.co/LsFQCXzq9S
That's a tough one. Many Ps don't read for pleasure. No modeling. No judgement either.
I believe it is, but is Blogging still relevant 2 Ss the way it was 5 years ago? Instagram can B blogging. https://t.co/qecjGUTseK
i believe if i told my kids they had to blog, they would not - i truly do
A4: For primary students, their word study, math facts, and reading choice are differentiated. They study where they are.
A5) 1st h/w project could be for S's to come up with meaningful homework ideas...involve them in your decision...create ownership
A5, Part 2: Interest Surveys work as HW becuase there are no wrong answers. THey engage, enrich Ss plus inform T.
This is a fallacy. Success depends on myriad factors. Cant isolate just one for blame
A5: Find out what interests them, and also take into account what they are able to do. Always consider their resources.
So true! Relevancy that evokes emotion is the key to greater achievement
Overgeneralized. Who were the Ss, what grade, region, SocioEcon, etc.
A5 I try to make most of my HW directly applicable to next lesson. Sts who don't do it realize the next lesson is really hard.
Look, ! She said reading logs are LAME!
We couldn't agree more, Jo-Ann! https://t.co/V3sdJIMtqZ
Yes and reading logs are lame. Just read. ;)
funny that they more & more we require more & more homework the further & further we fall behind in the world education rankings
Likely, but why HW not completed is more interesting to me than completion... https://t.co/PWuz40nbh4
I think failure comes when the HW is assigned but not completed?
compliance and "collaboration" (when 22 have same answer & same misspellings!) ps guilty!
Wow, yes very different management! I can't even imagine! https://t.co/gymKleHyZ0
8th grade here with 192 students...Skill Binders likely not happening here...but glad they R in elem
Lets be careful with "real world" too - this is our student's 'real world'
They can do it! Trust them. Give them sentence starters. Fishbowl model it. Please let them.
I grade HW at 10%. It wasnt the HW that gave them the F.
perhaps, however, i'm not an instragram user
I like that. It would look v dif. in your community than mine (I have many immigrants w little ed) It could work.
A5- This sounds like a Genius Hour Solution.Have them choose the project that means something to them and they'll be more engaged
So dont assign it? Some kids dont do chores either, so dont assign them?
evolution of Communication competency continues to be mindblowing Podcast/instagram/etc etc many tools!
Not just Instagram...Have S blogging platforms reflected the change in blogging elsewhere?
I agree up to a point. My HS students need to do some of their writing outside of class time.
. Blogging can take many forms: traditional, vlogs, instagram, Twitter, etc.
Somebody HELP! Trying to deal with HW and grading practices in the same https://t.co/fZFd0RoDQw
Why do kids receive F's? The 0's in the gradebook for not doing or turning in HW
And enrich the Library: I ordered books specifically based on Ss Interests. 📚😬🍎
A5: Used to give kids a lot of choices. It didn't really make a difference & parents would discourage choices that took more time.
Parent-student nights for things like tech skills, reading strategies, math, etc. Ss coach parents. T is support.
top university are cutting back on how many AP they will accept... hw is not the answer... it's given out of fear
Read on the phone? My daughter does. https://t.co/kPoswyCLwh
we all would like Ss to read for pleasure, but they love their phones way more. Uphill battle on that one :(
Why do the have to write outside of class time?
Of course, by final stages of writing, they’ve received feedback and guidance.
and yes - writing is still relevant :) (am i old-fashioned because i encourage blogging)
A5: Ever hear something that intrigued you, & then spent time later looking learning more about it on your own? Same idea with HW.
This Chat is FLYING!!!!!! I can't keep up!
shhhh but I say the same thing about standardized tests/learnings w regards to anxiety & self-reg increases
Yeah...maybe our bosses & as professionals we should be doing some spring cleaning...Its necessary as we go into NGSS
Stickers,🏎, gifts out of a treasure box = Reading Logs.
And education is my "Real world" I stress this with journalism sts. Real world journalism IS high school journalism
A5: My Ss check in w me during GH for a few minutes to review 'HW' so far so good this year. They are having fun.
It's not a binary proposition like that. Where's the nuance and knowledge of Ss
and if grade low, Ss have oppty to raise it w/ revision, or by improving w/ same standards next time
I taught 3rd graders who peer reviewed each other.
A5 Ss enjoy & invest more when providing feedback for each other's work, &/or articles w/discussion posts
My HS son worked at coffee shop. He had to choose btwn studying recipes or studying vocab words for ELA https://t.co/x3y742BjD7
Respectfully disagree. Most jobs want you to have some base skills, then teach you what's specific to them.
our JH/HS uses weebly - so yes. Elem uses kidblogs (again blogging just in lab 4 both campuses)
Q6 - How will you continue the conversation and be intentional with colleagues about the purpose of HW in your school/classroom?
Agreed HS WHAP & APUSH are not the way Hist classes are taught at Universities. Ss need those exps.
Positive Reinforcement = Motivation. 😬🍎🙂
don’t have to do all writing outside class time, but if all was done in class, not enough time
What if we couldn't give HW? How much harder would you work all day, knowing that was their only shot? Because, for lots, you are.
I taught 3rd graders who were 95% ELL, 98% Free Lunch. They peer reviewed each other.
I love blogging for Ss - chance to share their voice & get feedback. It gets them writing & reading!
pps - the Ss I've worked w in past years with intro of & play theory are less anxious in middle school+
. I have Ss write out of class bc for ESL 5 hours a week isn't enough immersion.
Many of our Ss don't have a place to work. They share space with many family members. HW is a burden.
Im just bewildered by this logic: if Ss dont do X, dont assign X. Huh?
A5: Ever hear something that intrigued you, & then spent time later learning more about it on your own? Same idea with good HW.
Writing is absolutely relevant! We both integrate experiences, create & make meaning as we write.
SO true. So is Snapchat. It's like a really creative form of summarizing + sharing.
I'm just thinking of examples for Ss...Yes, writing is always relevant, but forms take different shapes
It's pretty easy too to see which ones students THINK are easy and then realize are much harder
Why keep assigning something they are not doing?
Completely disagree, esp. at higher grade levels.
Blogging is a way for Ss to reflect & reach a wide audience. Thought into writing is powerful.
Why? What does it prove? They know how to copy at lunch?
i don't mind being old-fashion, i just don't wish to be irrelevant
A5) I think a lot of the compliance comes with knowing how your students get motivated, and encouragement that matches
Agree with you on this, John. https://t.co/lOvocTSAE7
This is a fallacy. Success depends on myriad factors. Cant isolate just one for blame
A6: continue the dialog on the purpose and definition of HW, r we just doing it because we have always done it? Dangerous practice
Intrinsic motiv. Have to work harder to get there.
A6 as principal I LOVE the hwk discussion - and providing a school culture where "points don't matter - learning does"
For many Ss, it is their first foray into digital writing...and it reinforces digital citizenship as well! https://t.co/b7WiGoTC1K
Blogging is a way for Ss to reflect & reach a wide audience. Thought into writing is powerful.
Oh man...chat is almost over, but I know many of the conversations are not! Keep them going...but be respectful :)
Ps just need to be informed. There are other ways to do that besides HW. Newsletters, etc. https://t.co/AmlKyjw044
when my kids don't have HW, I feel disconnected, don't know what they're learning. Newsletter would be fine!
“points don’t matter, learning does” LOVE THIS! https://t.co/T9bGePwRO0
A6 as principal I LOVE the hwk discussion - and providing a school culture where "points don't matter - learning does"
Did you find that it was more informative because they reflected on other Ss works?
I love this conversation too...get to the heart as to WHY we assign homework and who needs it more! https://t.co/eaIsPykueF
A6 as principal I LOVE the hwk discussion - and providing a school culture where "points don't matter - learning does"
Snapping is not the same as delving into the deep writing process and analyzing writing to become better.
HW -> major cause 4 F'ss in K-12. Look at gradebooks. Why are kids failing? HW assignments
Absolutely! And classroom culture supported helping each other learn, mistakes help brain grow.
Overall, reminding me that HW convo. needs nuance - age, subject, context, all matter. Many variables to consider for dialogue
This really is the challenge! https://t.co/RFgqPdE81z
Ps just need to be informed. There are other ways to do that besides HW. Newsletters, etc. https://t.co/AmlKyjw044
when my kids don't have HW, I feel disconnected, don't know what they're learning. Newsletter would be fine!
. Understood. You just want to know what is going on in class. And you should be informed.
A6: Continue the conversation on grading. What is the true purpose of hw: for completion? For grades? For learning?
A6: Will continue to educate myslf on homework purposes/practices & engage in those conversations at various levels at my school
A6 - i have 1:1 conversations, asking ?? about homework, perhaps stimulating thought -- but it tends to end there
A6: find successful models and share, discuss, support new practices
I can't agree w/ majority of failure 4 non-HW completion. Test scores play a big part
They also fail tests too, but I still assign them.
A6: I am constantly urging Ts at my site to give up the practice of assigning HW. Some are beginning to catch on.
But some are not. What about them?
I know the no HW movement is getting strong when I hear from my cousin, "Is your school doing the no HW thing?" Yes. Yes we are.
A6- How do you not give homework when most others are and not be labeled, "Easy"?
I hear you but we did years of HW and experience to prosper in such classes
I believe every parent wants their child to succeed. Some Ps just don't know how to best support. We can partner
If my kids can do it, why can't yours?
If S can demo skills to pass course & HW grade causes F, T's policy/methods need a closer look, revision. https://t.co/yblvxwIbUd
HW -> major cause 4 F'ss in K-12. Look at gradebooks. Why are kids failing? HW assignments
Very true David! https://t.co/JaxaB1RmGV
Overall, reminding me that HW convo. needs nuance - age, subject, context, all matter. Many variables to consider for dialogue
That is awesome. Our T for 1st grade is saying no HW...but she had some this weekend that she didn't do
I'd be happy to moderate a discussion on Motivation Theory at a later date. Tonight's topic is homework.
Bravo for the mistakes we make while learning something new! There is no subsitute for supportive culture
That's different. That's an assessment. HW -> independent practice at home
I was going to say that they really have to trust one another and community is built!
If a S doesnt do the work, u cant just not assign it. Bad lesson.
GOOD conversation tonight -- lots of good conversations -- THANK YOU --
website? Emails? Newsletter? Positive calls home? Family nights at schools?
