#musedchat Archive
Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.
Monday October 31, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
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Josh Emanuel, 5-8 general music teacher in NY. Haven’t been on for a chat in way too long.
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Phyllis, Baton Rouge, 5th/6th GM/Choir, checking in for the 1st half of before my last private lesson of the night!
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Tim, Band Director from Ohio. Also enjoying the live stream of OSU's Percussion Ensemble tonight!
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Glad you could join us Josh, how are you tonight?
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Happy Halloween, Phyllis!
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Sounds awesome, what are they playing?
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Not sure yet - just started. I'll keep you posted!
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Hi, I'm Susie. I teach 4th and 5th grade band and 5th grade general music near Sacramento, CA
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Hello ! Eric Starnes here from Buhler, KS! 5-12 band, long time reader, 2nd time tweeter!
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Checking into tonight from Maryland. ES band and orchestra.
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Great to see you Susie, how are you tonight?
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Glad you're joining us again Eric, how was your Monday?
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. Glad to be here! Finally set an alarm to make tonight. Will have to leave early for trick-or-treating. How are you?
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Pretty good. Trick-or-treating is all done here, about to enjoy some leftover candy.
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I’m great Joe! Thanks for asking. Tweeting in between trick or treaters tonight!
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Hi ! Sarah, K-5 music and 5th grade band and chorus in MA.
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Howdy Sarah, hope you had a good Monday
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Welcome, Susie! 4th grade band!? That’s something I’d like to see!
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I did! Halloween was much less of a disruption than I predicted!
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Q1: What tech resources are available to you and your students each day?
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Hello! Erin from Kansas City. K, 4th, and 6th gm/choir!
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Hi All! Amy From MI. MS band. Joining a little late after out first real Trick or Treating outing. https://t.co/eTSUwLwQN9
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Ben Meisel in the Cleveland area, 6-8 band. Currently writing a paper & yelling at inanimate objects, so I may be slow!
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, A bit crazy at times, but very rewarding! Thankful to work at a very supportive school who wants to bring music back.
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Q1: I have 30 Windows laptops and 11 iMacs. Took advantage of the Ableton Push Initiative, so I also have 30 of those.
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a1: I'm so lucky. Desktop pc , iPad, and an Epson interactive projector w/ 2 pens, plus about 3 sound systems. More on the way.
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A1: computer w dvd drive, cheap speakers, iPod, projector & screen
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A1: We are very lucky to have 1:1 iPads. Smartboards in every room, and a few desktop computers in the music wing.
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Ben, please tell me OSU is going to step it up and beat Michigan this year
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A1: Fortunate that most students have access to their own devices. Also have a few class iPads and can check out computer lab.
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A1: I have access to our computer room anytime I want, but currently trying to incorporate more technology. Nada in the classroom
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Smartboards, Chromebook cart (2 for the bldg), AppleTV (in my room), teacher iPad, iPhone, reasonably good wifi, PA system
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Could always be warmer, but better than I remember it being "back in the day." :)
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Not if they keep playing like they have lately. I fear for a post-apocalyptic, mandatory-khaki pants world in our future
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A1: District is 1:1 iPad from grades 2-12, SmartBoards in classrooms, teach through a Windows computer.
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Late to and will prob have to leave early..., but hey, Miki, K-5 General and instrumental music, IL
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A1: SMART boards, some iPads / Chromebooks. When responsible digital use is demonstrated, student smart phones.
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Good evening and welcome!
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How has it been with the BYOD? I have a sneaking suspicion my district is trying to get to that.
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A1: Plus sound systems in each room.
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Do you take time to discuss responsible use with your kids?
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A1: All students 6-12 are 1:1. MS has iPads & HS has MacBook Air. 7 through 12 can take theirs home. Very fortunate.
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Not bad. I try and find a lot of constructive ways for them to use it regularly....
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Also have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and a pair of cheap condenser mics to record my groups
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A1: I have at least 1 iPad/tablet for , SmartBoard, and sometimes I'll have my traveling laptop. Ss don't have phones
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A1: Also lucky to have some Chromebooks, an Apple TV, and decent sound equipment.
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A1 Kids just got devices - convertible laptops. Have a laptop for myself, projector, and document camera.
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Do you find that most Ss have the same/similar devices? How do you deal with compatibility issues?
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Otherwise I photo bomb their Snaps and put my hands all over their screens if they're playing games. :)
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A1. 1to1 chrome books. We have promethium boards also.
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Yes - doesn't always work initially. Some groups are temporarily "suspended" from BYOD use. Will reeducate and try again.
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Wow, looks like a great night
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I need to research some smartboard uses for my beginning band!
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A1: 5th has Chromebooks but one has been caught doing what he shouldn't have by our tech dept- and we're a large district
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Most of the tech I try and incorporate is device agnostic. A lot of Google Classroom, Bandmate, Tonal Energy, etc.
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Note reading games and composing - my Ss love to write rhythms by dragging the notes around in Google Slides
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I'm a fan of the latter. "Ooooh is that a touch screen?!"
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"What happens if I do this?"
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Q2: How frequently do you use tech with your instruction? What is your go-to device or app?
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I'm piloting google classroom this year. Thus far it's pretty good but I have lots to learn
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A2.1: Daily. My 8 curriculum is entirely DAW-based. 6s do a lot with recording, composing, and computer programming
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A2: Once every couple of weeks. Unless its holiday season. I usually use and have kids record their centers progress.
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A2: Though I really need to get caught up with grading right now, I'm all about Google Classroom. https://t.co/qhpdrld5OZ
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a2: Every single class, every single day. Embedded in what I already do. Google Slides has been so useful
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A2.2: 8s use a lot of GarageBand, but hoping to use Ableton now that it’s been installed. 6s use Audacity, Scratch, MakeyMakeys
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A2. I try to use it every class. Either w or note reading activities
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A2a: Daily in General Music. Big fan of Explain Everything (interactive PowerPoint). GarageBand great when done right.
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A2: I use my projector/screen at least once a week. If I had more resources, I'd use them!
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A2: Daily. SMART board for rhythms. Smart devices for tuning. Sound system for drones / metronomes. Google for playing tests.
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A2: Constantly use my iPhone for tuning, recordings (quickly deleted), roster in Google Sheets
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A2: Sadly, infrequently. During 3rd trimester we compose our own songs on noteflight and spend 3 days in the computer lab.
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A2b: I try to DISCONNECT in band. Kids get very heavy screen time daily, I prefer paper. Use iPads for HW/vids in Schoology.
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Woah! Fingering app looks cool. Is it what I think it is?! I'm not familiar...
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Have you seen an Android equivalent for Fingerings? Lots of options for indvidual inst, but not all in one.
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A2.4: Just starting a new project with MakeyMakeys and Soundplant
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Thanks! Been slacking a bit lately, but I try to post when I can.
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It's an outstanding fingering chart app. Very user-friendly. Handy since I really suck at bassoon.
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Sadly no. Only seems to be iOS.
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Downloading now! Switching kids to oboe and bassoon soon...and I'm going to need help!
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So much potential for awesome with ! What are your Ss doing w/ them right now?
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What is Soundplant? Not familiar.
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A2: Personally, I use tuner and metronome app, and recommend note trainer apps at home.
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Honestly, it has paid for itself many times over. And it was $8 when I bought it.
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I just introduced it today. We’ll be programming them to make instruments. Then the Ss will compose/perform
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A2c: It's very nice having the tech available for band. Tuner, met, video, messages on my stand. But devices away is nice!
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It allows you to map sounds to your QWERTY keyboard. And there’s a free version!
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A2 SeeSaw is a huge app for my middle school band classes. Several times a week we are accessing it. Nin-Genius is the other big1
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Burton Hable, jumping in late while making dinner and struggling with participate, band director at Centennial HS in Ankeny, IA
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That was going to be my next question. Have used Scratch w/ Makeys but not Soundplant.
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What's for dinner tonight?
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A2: Google apps forever and ever. Assessment, bell work. Tonal energy, metronomes. Planning on using note reading apps soon
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Gonna have to talk to our tech dept. about that free version...hmmm.
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We just got an awesome Makerspace. What sort of music projects are you doing?
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Agreed. I've noticed them as more of a distraction lately. Probably mostly my own fault, but away until I can police.
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A2: forgot to mention I use Ear Trainer and InTune (iOS) for myself.
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I will be looking through two of those tonight!
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A2.1: I try incorporating tech each day through bell work (general questions, reflections, etc.) using google forms/onenote.
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Programming with Scratch and MakeyMakeys. I brought in my LittleBits once last year. Hoping to do more, but no time
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I am interested in this since I have NO idea what it is!
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A1 Kids are 1:1 with Chromebooks. AppleTV, Airport Express, 12ch soundboard, 2 Yamaha powered speakers, HD projector, 8’ screen
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Q3: What steps do you take to ensure that your use of tech doesn't become too much of a crutch or hindrance in class?
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A3: Love Tonal Energy and Bandmate but do a lot of singing before we use the app to check for accuracy.
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A2.2: I'm desperate for more meaningful uses - very excited to go through this thread tonight!
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3D printer, vinyl cutter, tons of hands-on materials, iRig, and lots of shiny things. I'm still exploring it!
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a3: Always have a tech-free backup plan and monitor students closely when they're using tech
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, I feel like we need a separate chat to discuss just apps!
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My computer just freaked out. Might be a little slow on my phone until it reboots
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It's been awhile since we had one of those, lots of new ones out since then. Maybe time for another round
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A3: Routine. Once we set when to use it, S’s are efficient in their use. Rarely “free work time” in class.
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I'm super jealous! I keep trying to coordinate with the tech dept on some projects. I really want to augment ukes
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A3: limit tech by design; don't include tech for tech's sake, but if facilitates instruction or response. Lots of home resources
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A3 I use tech to help the kids visualize many things that they need to HEAR. helps them realize more quickly what they r hearing
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That's why I love Bandmate with my beginners! The visual has a big impact.
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A3: Simply keep the students busy and focused. Always include some "if you're finished" task when the iPad is involved.
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At the risk of some self horn tooting, here's a post I did on an interactive word wall with . https://t.co/fKhZU27V0c
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A2 Tech is used daily. Tuners, metronomes, Google Classroom, Keynote, Screencastify, Flat.io
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I use TonalEnergy for drones w/ older Ss. Bandmate more for younger. Love that it shows note on staff.
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A3: For my own use, I try to move on quickly if something isn't working. Like said, always have a backup!
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Ok, I'm out for the night. Have a great Halloween!
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I've been a sucker for free tuners, but Bandmate looks worth it for my middle schoolers
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Bandmate has a free option which is plenty for MS Ss.
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BandMate Shows them their note, on a staff! So worth it! And created by a band director!
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Just downloaded Bandmate...looks perfect!
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A3: Not using much of it makes it easy to move on if not working, which happens plenty. 😊 Wifi likes to drop randomly…
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Apple’s equivalent to PowerPoint
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Q4: What would you like to be able to do with tech in your classroom in the future?
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It's a good thing you mentioned free, because I almost bought the $2 totally-not-a-tuner
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A3: Modeling good use. You can use it if you are using it well. If not, lose the privilege. 1:1 allows monitoring of work outside
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A4: I want to create an open Makerspace; coding, sequencing, instrument design, composing, CREATING music
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The "concert tipster?" Almost did the same thing...
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a4: have more tech for students to use all at once - it's in the works!
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A4: Have some UI ideas for district LMS. Wish more kids had internet at home.
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Ah. That sounds familiar now. I like my Google stuff so I forget about the Apple options sometimes. :)
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A4: Fix broken instruments, laser pointer key signatures, and dispense high fives. Anyone know an app maker?
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My sister did build a fist-bump machine that she programmed with an arduino….
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Some sort of app with some basic instrument repair stuff in it would actually be pretty awesome...
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A4: I want to use Facebook live more to promote our program. Rehearsals, performances, etc. A lot like DCI this past season
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Have you read Invent to Learn or Worlds of Making? Both have a lot of practical ideas.
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yes please! I’d love a chance for 1:1
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WebMD for instruments? Call the patent office.
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A4: And I should probably replace the dead battery in my laser pointer.
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A4 I wish my kids were more ontop of using tech I offer them at home. But it takes time to create the tech culture
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I haven’t. I just picked up the Maker Manifesto. But I will definitely have to look into those.
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A student built his own Launchpad for last spring. I was in awe a little.
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Got an app like that for cycling-related pain. Gives you common diagnoses based on symptoms, and some exercises to do
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Oooooh, whom do we talk to about this?!?!
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Could just as easily do something like "this instrument is doing X, how do I make it stop?"
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A4 Collect data and distribute feedback more rapidly. Assess student performance within context of an ensemble
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Have some diagrams and repair videos embedded in the app. And a warning to just take it to the shop if it's an oboe.
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Considering the number of Ts in the chat alone, it wouldn't be hard to make a few resource vids for rudimentary issues
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A4: Want to get Ss self assessing more. Both for their benefit and mine.
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I was thinking about this! iPads on the stand recording audio, then reflect on their individual performance
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I'll be the "guy shrugging" in the double reed resource videos
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A class I took recommended using a mixer to record multiple channels of Ss playing. Like the iPad/Chromebook idea!
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I'll upload the "shrugging guy" video for the double Reed resource folder
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Have it record video too so S can see what they need to improve on. There are coaching apps that will work
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Love Screencastify for this! S sees music on screen, webcam in PIP. Can give feedback this way too!
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Confused. Isn't on Tuesdays?
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A4: Collaboration - receiving more immediate individualized feedback, preferably from students.
