#edchatie Archive


Monday October 23, 2017
3:30 PM EDT

  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    Welcoming me to tonight’s #edchatie discussion. As usual please introduce yourself + add the hashtag into all your tweets too
  • WexfordHomeSch Oct 23 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    Hi i'm Jason from Wexford #edchatie
  • SenKidsCharity Oct 23 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    Massive stock clearance sale https://t.co/HNdBjhqLSo #edchatie #Sale
  • languagesdude Oct 23 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    Will be listening from afar ..! Copies to mark ..! Damien , MFL teacher , Waterford #edchatie
  • gleesoneduco Oct 23 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Thomas Gleeson #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Aishling, pp science & maths tchr Louth. #edchatie
  • gaol_bird Oct 23 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    Anne-Marie, post primary teacher in Dublin. Both excited and apprehensive about new JC history spec #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    Fred Boss, 2nd level Art teacher, currently with @NCCAie #edchatie
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    John in Charlottesville #edchatie dropping in for a while, waiting for a classroom to empty
  • marykateb Oct 23 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Mary English and RE teacher in Tipperary #edchatie
  • ValerieLCarson Oct 23 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    Valerie: Guidance, French, SPHE. #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • ciaramcguane Oct 23 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    #edchatie Ciara McGuane, ed consultant with Rathu 😀
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    What should we know about these new specs? #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Tonight's #edchatie hour is on “New Junior Cycle Specification are refreshing” So, what are your thoughts on this topic?
  • friedacrehan Oct 23 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    #edchatie Frieda Crehan History and RE teacher Dublin, on secondment to JCT Team leader for History
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    My feelings on new JC Science course are very mixed! The vision is great but reality is difficult and largely unknown! #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    Well, You can research them all here: https://t.co/dL4e2Uzu3n #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • mrNeilButler Oct 23 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    Very interesting privacy developments for our students. #edchatie
    • onetruecathal Oct 23 @ 1:48 PM EDT
      Dept of E are now demanding that schools use compatible IDs to the #POD database so they can link the POD to school DB "if necessary".
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    don't think I will need to know anything about them anytime soon. #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • phneedham Oct 23 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    Paula Needham: Geography and Mathematics teacher #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    think whoever proposes topic for #edchatie should be here to lead the discussion otherwise u are wasting peoples time twiddling their thumbs
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Wouldn't mind seeing where they are online over where you are #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Signing off, have stuff to do #edchatie
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Stephen McFarlane, JCT Avisor for 🎶 #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight's #edchatie discussion on “New Junior Cycle Specification are refreshing”
    In reply to @stephenmcf
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Issue time and time again with dept of ed, is implementing these courses before tchrs are given CPD. Happened with Pro.Maths too #edchatie
  • friedacrehan Oct 23 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    #edchatie CPD on the new Specifications being rolled out to teachers a year before the first tranche of students
  • ValerieLCarson Oct 23 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    The wellbeing spec is really well put together but falls short in terms of actual practical advice on implementation #edchatie
  • gaol_bird Oct 23 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    #edchatie my main hope for new history spec is that it can be implemented w/o industrial action...still feel at sea w/English b/c of no cpd
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    Search for Virginia SOLs for baseline mandatory standard testing. AP for college entrance #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    Nice opportunities for technology now across the board. Doesn't have to be seen as add in, digital skills part of specifications #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    #edchatie
    • gleesoneduco Oct 23 @ 3:37 PM EDT
      A major change in Secondary Ed based on International curriculums like the IB and IGCSE
      In reply to @fboss
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    #edchatie
    • gleesoneduco Oct 23 @ 3:38 PM EDT
      It will take time to transfer the theoretical to the practical
      In reply to @fboss
  • gaol_bird Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    #edchatie hoping the new spec allows students the space to develop historical skills that the time constraints of old syllabus restricted
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    I would take that bet ;-) #edchatie
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @johnmayo
  • gaol_bird Oct 23 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    My big concern is there is still a lack of access to ICT in schools...many students still without devices in classrooms #edchatie
    In reply to @stephenmcf
  • phneedham Oct 23 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    #edchatie Inspiring an 'appetite for learning'.
    In reply to @friedacrehan
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    Thanks #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:54 PM EDT
    Do a lot of schools still have ICT locked down in their Acceptable Use Policies? #edchatie
    In reply to @gaol_bird, @stephenmcf
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    #edchatie Some schools going that way, other schools going the opposite way! That's Irish schooling for you ;)
    In reply to @fboss, @gaol_bird
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    There's a "Clipboard" feature to grab most of the info in the order you want and download as Word/PDF https://t.co/EBvMUP2OQZ #edchatie
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Decision to get rid of Junior Cert was senseless. Yes, it needed improvement, not effective abolition! #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    #edchatie
    • GaryPinidae Oct 23 @ 3:56 PM EDT
      I would assume so - which doesn't really reflect the real world. An interesting problem to solve.
      In reply to @fboss, @gaol_bird, @stephenmcf
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    #edchatie
    • GaryPinidae Oct 23 @ 3:58 PM EDT
      I agree. There are few things that can be as valuable as leveraging that. I'd like to see more focus on coding too.
      In reply to @gaol_bird, @stephenmcf
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    Just at the halfway mark in tonight's #edchatie discussion. Remember to always include the hashtag #edchatie in all tweets tonight
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    Real appetite out there for teachers and students to engage with technology to augment the student voice. https://t.co/Gpluhp67fo #edchatie
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    #edchatie is there much PBL or UDL built in to the specs?
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    #edchatie Miriam PP business tchr, believe new jc specification requires different tch methods, more ict integration via ipads &Chromebooks
  • GaryPinidae Oct 23 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    #edchatie for sure, there needs to be willingness too. The use cases are no so complex, but offer consideration return & make things fun
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @gaol_bird, @stephenmcf
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    Get back to me if you need any help - you can add/delete to clipboard & move them up/down as needed & then save/print #edchatie
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @johnmayo
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    #edchatie notice difference between bringing Business class to computer room as opposed BETTERoption,Using devices in class more work ethic
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    #edchatie "Multiple means of representation to give learners various ways of acquiring information and knowledge" YES
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    While the JC Principles, Statements of Learning & Key Skills go across all subjects, each new JC spec also plays to own strengths #edchatie
    In reply to @GaryPinidae, @WexfordHomeSch, @gaol_bird, @stephenmcf
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    #edchatie "Multiple means of expression to provide learners alternatives for demonstrating what they know" YES
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    #edchatie "Multiple means of engagement to tap into learners' interests, challenge them appropriately, and motivate them to learn." YES
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    I agree that the new specifications almost require ICT integration, attempting to manipulate schools & teachers into adopting tech #edchatie
    In reply to @miriambergin
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    #edchatie be careful not to increase digital divide with JC reform,have sts with no internet,want connect with parents on googleclassroom
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    #edchatie Both UDL and PBL are big here in ACPS
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Allowing students to be assessed in different modes to their peers risks letting schools off the hook when it comes to literacy #edchatie
    In reply to @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    #edchatie Digital divide with teachers and students :-)
    In reply to @miriambergin
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    They are built into the specs but also rely on teacher to lead the learning and plan for it too #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Motivation follows achievement, not vice versa. Reform should aim to raise standards of attainment, not levels of engagement #edchatie
    In reply to @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    #edchatie student tasks need to be paper and ICT based,To remain inclusive & creative.JCreform enables Extraction different strengths of Sts
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    #edchatie I am really concerned that what could sink this is the teachers digital literacy from I have read so far tonight
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    Yes a digital divide but think tchrs are willing to upskill once they seeBenefits toWorkPractices, I teachDifferent now to yrsAgo #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Most subjects can be taught with little to no ICT. Why make it mandatory? Subject knowledge much more important than "21C skills" #edchatie
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:11 PM EDT
    Can you not have one without the other - new JC subjects or not? #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    they are contemporary skills we are 17 years into the 21st C ffs #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    If the world is ever-changing, it makes no sense to teach 1st yrs to use tech that'll be out of date by the time they leave school #edchatie
    In reply to @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • ciaramcguane Oct 23 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    #edchatie Some really interesting points made about how different teaching strategies and motivating students more important than ICT.
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    Most subjects taught with little or no ICT - doesn't need to be mandatory but does need to be recognised as necessary these days #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    #edchatie I am current getting 360 cameras, digital camera and zoom mics ready for DC trip for group of students to explore Statues & racism
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    #edchatie 100% agree, engagement comes in many forms, as does all forms of expression.
    In reply to @ciaramcguane
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    #jc more conducive to everyday life, so kids can relate to it,Use of ICT mayAllow inspector toSeeClasswork without being in school #edchatie
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    #edchatie so you are giving a teachers a cop out then
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    I think we need to give kids access to ICT skills to help minimise the digital divide and enable future independent learning. #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    You can have engagement without learning. Attainment is start of a virtuous attainment-motivation cycle. https://t.co/SigAkTZeyo #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    Great that you have the funding to do that #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    They won a grant from the John Legend foundation to study what happened here in Charlottesville #edchatie
    In reply to @AshDonohoe
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    I would always try to build in some sort of motivation at the start of a project with students, even examples of artists' work #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    But teaching is a zero sum game. Asking subject teachers to teach ICT skills(that they barely have themselves) means less learning #edchatie
    In reply to @miriambergin, @fboss, @WexfordHomeSch
  • stephenmcf Oct 23 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    More than ever students have an opportunity to express their learning in any subject in a variety of modalities, digital is one. #edchatie
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    Thanks for that link - really interesting - am scrolling through it currently #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    What does that mean though? Our capacity to learn is a direct measure of what we know; the more we learn, the more we can learn #edchatie
    In reply to @speirbheangeal1, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    #edchatie A while ago, we had a lot of traditionalist dudes with bad knowledge hit town and it was no storm Ophelia
  • DeirdreMcDunphy Oct 23 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    Digital technology is not THE answer. It is a tool that can be used when appropriate. It can add to the learning experience. #edchatie
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    true, but we need to pick a few apps and everyone use same ones,Create synergies among all tchrs if possible, we are all learning. #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @fboss, @WexfordHomeSch
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    Adapting skills and critical thinking v important! #edchatie
    In reply to @speirbheangeal1, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Agree with that - it's not the be-all and end-all, just another way to learn or communicate/express yourself or reflect #edchatie
    In reply to @DeirdreMcDunphy
  • AshDonohoe Oct 23 @ 4:22 PM EDT
    Couldn't agree more...it lends itself very well on occasion but shouldn't be thrown in at every opportunity! #edchatie
    In reply to @DeirdreMcDunphy
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:22 PM EDT
    YesButUse SAMR(Substitition,Augmentation,Modification,Redefinition) toDecide when to use ICT, last 2 is when deep learning happens #edchatie
    In reply to @Eintrachtrob, @johnmayo, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    https://t.co/RxsnNBLvy8 I think kids' motivation largely comes from believing they can learn. Sometimes they need proof #edchatie
    In reply to @conorsmurf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    It's Hallowe'en & mid-term break next week so there'll be no #edchatie Enjoy your break and we'll be back discussing on Monday November 6th
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    SAMR is hard to get to the MR level for most teachers #edchatie
    In reply to @miriambergin, @Eintrachtrob, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch
  • MS_eduIRL Oct 23 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    We want teachers to be confident in using technology in class. Get online #EdTech training here: https://t.co/x9j5wRkBCn #EdchatIE
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    #edchatie true but that is why we need whole school approach, identify app and pedagogy that works then everyone use it..
    In reply to @johnmayo, @Eintrachtrob, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    I was throilled to actually meet Dr. Ruben Puentedura the SAMR creator in Chicago last Easter. #edchatie
    • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:22 PM EDT
      YesButUse SAMR(Substitition,Augmentation,Modification,Redefinition) toDecide when to use ICT, last 2 is when deep learning happens #edchatie
      In reply to @Eintrachtrob, @johnmayo, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    For me it means accepting that motivation can be extrinsic & short-term to start, but intrinsic motivation can take time to build #edchatie
    In reply to @conorsmurf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • johnmayo Oct 23 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    #edchatie are you a southsider now Fred?
    In reply to @fboss
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's #edchatie discussion on “New Junior Cycle Specification are refreshing” Last comments
  • EllenKMetcalf Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    You got me there. Am taking @C_Hendrick's word for it. It is covered in "Why Don't Students Like School?", which I have read #edchatie
    In reply to @conorsmurf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo, @C_Hendrick
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    No -still have to show my Northsider passport when going to work ;-) #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • miriambergin Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    Yes would like to meet him, as I think it is the best model to use to explain potential of ICT to a teacher who is not convinced #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • levdavidovic Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    There’s no research then? #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @conorsmurf, @stephenmcf, @johnmayo
  • GaryPinidae Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    Many say that but few give examples #edchatie
    In reply to @Eintrachtrob, @johnmayo, @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin
  • fboss Oct 23 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    So, are “New Junior Cycle Specification refreshing” ? Last thoughts, comments, ideas #edchatie
  • GaryPinidae Oct 23 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    This. You solve this problem by teaching foundations - core technologies and how to create... Not how to consume #edchatie
    In reply to @EllenKMetcalf, @WexfordHomeSch, @miriambergin