#nhed Archive
An chat run by New Hampshire educators.
Sunday April 3, 2016
7:00 PM EDT
MrsMurat
Apr 3 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Craving a day of learning, sharing and networking? Come to
@EdCampSTNY
on 4/9! Register here:
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NHed
’s
#EduImagineering
edition where we ask “What could/should schools look like in this day & age?
https://t.co/pF0TKSxwg9
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:01 PM EDT
Score! Finished my SEI homework just in time for
#nhed
and tonight's topic looks awesome!
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:01 PM EDT
#NHed
If we weren’t locked into preconceived notions of what “school” is, how else could it be done?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Tonight’s
#NHed
chat will be archived & it and past chats can be found at:
https://t.co/MPBxsHCq8K
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Hey
@gallianstone
, glad you made it in time for
#NHed
!
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:04 PM EDT
I'm your
#nhed
host & Chief Edu-Imagineer, John Martin out of beautiful Sandwich, NH.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
What other
#EduImagineers
have joined us for
#NHed
tonight?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
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@coolteachers
Hi there Chris & Barbara! Welcome (in Chris' case back) to NH!
#NHed
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:05 PM EDT
Tod, media specialist- Claremont, NH
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audrallurvey
Apr 3 @ 7:06 PM EDT
Audra, LMS from Nottingham. Lots of homework still to do!
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gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:06 PM EDT
SR, severe sped T from MA
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:06 PM EDT
Welcome back to
#NHed
@guilfordt
&
@audrallurvey
!
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:07 PM EDT
Jen here from Pittsfield.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
Hi
@jencole1975
!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
The
#NHed
gang is gathering steam! We'll kick off in just a minute w/ tonight's topic.
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:08 PM EDT
Early childhood educator, parent of high school student, advocate for student centered learning
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Tonight
#NHed
is going to run differently. Rather than Q/A, we'll have an organic conversation, exploring ideas & going off on tangents.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
#NHed
#EduImagineering
In case we need a prompt, here are some areas we might look at: space/environment, curriculum, ownership, assessment.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
#Imagineering
is dreaming then doing.
#EduImagineering
is just imagineering for edu. So don't let *reality* stand in our way tonight.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:11 PM EDT
@edventures
I'm not so at home in unstructured chats, so I may float away, but I'll try.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:11 PM EDT
Think of it as a way to say all those things about school & learning design you've always wanted to say!
@gallianstone
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
My school is going thru a
#CompetencyBasedLearning
redesign. It's a slow process but has potential. Leads to lots of ideas on change.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:13 PM EDT
@edventures
But without structure, it's hard to know what to say or even how to say it. - True for our Ss too.
#Nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:14 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
True, and it tends to worry me. When we need an external structure, how does that impact our creativity in thinking?
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
One of the things I noticed about our decade under
#NCLB
was the focus on content at the expense of context & creative thought.
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:15 PM EDT
@edventures
What does that look like?
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
Now we ask Ss to take part in their learning & they feel lost without being given direct, explicit instruction.
#NHed
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
I don't think external structure impacts creativity, it allows you something to build off of.
#nhed
https://t.co/xC6IWcXNLh
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:14 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
True, and it tends to worry me. When we need an external structure, how does that impact our creativity in thinking?
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:16 PM EDT
@edventures
@gallianstone
First concern was I can't do this; yet, I expect it form my Ss. I want unfettered thinking
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:17 PM EDT
@edventures
it is the structure that drives and shapes creativity. Without it, I can't organize a starting point.
#executivefunction
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:17 PM EDT
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@KatieJMcNamara
#CBL
is similar to standards based learning but w/ standards tied together under a larger umbrella.
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:17 PM EDT
1/2 I would love to see school get rid of the terms 9th grade and so on
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:18 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Another good point. Some say that constraints lead you to be creative in a focused way.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:18 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
@edventures
why does unfettered have to mean unsupported?
#Nhed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:19 PM EDT
2/2 and move through competencies at thier own pace without stigma
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
I do as well. Sorting based on one's date of manufacture is a convenient but inaccurate methodology IMO.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
@guilfordt
Not just a starting point, but a map - and a map is not the same as turn-by-turn directions.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
I think we need both. What happens when you don't have a support structure to rely upon?
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@edventures
I don't think it does. We're 20 minutes in. Perhaps support is on it's way.
#NHed
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A guide?
#nhed
https://t.co/YUkzvJhSn3
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:20 PM EDT
@guilfordt
Not just a starting point, but a map - and a map is not the same as turn-by-turn directions.
#nhed
audrallurvey
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Heard this today. "Creativity happens when we let our minds wander"
https://t.co/Ko4exRclp9
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Or perhaps a process to help guide actions? Lewis & Clark had to make their own map, but had a process to rely on.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
@edventures
@KatieJMcNamara
you discover you don't need it any more. Or you build a new one.
#nhed
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:23 PM EDT
And Sacagawea!
#nhed
https://t.co/uKvfFn0fnL
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:22 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Or perhaps a process to help guide actions? Lewis & Clark had to make their own map, but had a process to rely on.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:24 PM EDT
If you desire a few areas to help focus your
#NHed
#EduImagineering
creativity, this might help...
https://t.co/zdtTR6RlJE
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:10 PM EDT
#NHed
#EduImagineering
In case we need a prompt, here are some areas we might look at: space/environment, curriculum, ownership, assessment.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:24 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
TOUCHE! :)
#NHed
DennisDill
Apr 3 @ 7:25 PM EDT
@edventures
let us not forget "accountability" ...
#nhed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:26 PM EDT
Ownership of learning is important and this is accomplished by giving students say in the curriculum
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:26 PM EDT
#NHed
Q1: If we were to redesign our school structure (physical, organizational, philosophical), what might we choose to do?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:27 PM EDT
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@DennisDill
Oh yes, there was that.
#NHed
DennisDill
Apr 3 @ 7:27 PM EDT
@guilfordt
the map and Sacagawea told them where to go, but not how to get there ...that was left to their ingenuity.
#nhed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:28 PM EDT
1/2 My daughter, who struggled with reading did not want to read Of Mice and Men and it was causing her to dislike reading even more
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:28 PM EDT
#NHed
@DennisDill
@guilfordt
So our *new* school design would still require guides & maps, but what shall we expect of our explorers?
DennisDill
Apr 3 @ 7:28 PM EDT
A1: Assuming everyone is on board ... start with physical ... every room is different ... like a themed room ... something inspiring.
#nhed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:29 PM EDT
2/2 after talking with her team and recognizing that we are a sCL school she was able to choose another book based on her interest
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
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@DennisDill
Now that would be fun! Makes me wonder what a school modeled after Walt Disney Worlds lands idea would look like?
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
I'd like to see accessibility built in to the physical environment - and I don't just mean elevators!
#nhed
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Creativity and the ability to explore and complete tasks using their own methods
#nhed
https://t.co/5i35bLHIoz
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:28 PM EDT
#NHed
@DennisDill
@guilfordt
So our *new* school design would still require guides & maps, but what shall we expect of our explorers?
DennisDill
Apr 3 @ 7:30 PM EDT
@edventures
@guilfordt
put them in the drivers seat and help them get there ...
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
That still met the intent of the learning standard! Do we assign books or projects just b/c they are loved by the T?
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
@guilfordt
But that won't happen if we haven't designed the space (and the maps and guides) with UDL in mind so all have access.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
Ooh, share more on that idea! We've shared some ideas in the past but we have new faces tonight!
#NHed
DennisDill
Apr 3 @ 7:31 PM EDT
@edventures
I am currently working on an Ancient History theme ... building Roman Arches for the classroom.
#nhed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
A1 Problem is adults designing what they think Ss need. Let the Ss contribute. They have great ideas
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Guess I didn't follow the question
#NHed
audrallurvey
Apr 3 @ 7:32 PM EDT
Ss need to understand what it means to demonstrate competency. Here in NH it is just starting
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:33 PM EDT
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@DennisDill
To what scale? Working on your own classroom makeover? Going w/ Doric, Ionic or Corinthian columns?
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A1Pittsfield has site counsil which is made up of 2/3 student
#NHed
audrallurvey
Apr 3 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Allowing Ss to create their own curriculum /
#PBL
is a progression. They need to understand the steps.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:35 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
Another thing I would like Ss involved in: school government. Help them understand our constraints & figure solutions.
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:36 PM EDT
https://t.co/2ylpxGH6Ut
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:36 PM EDT
#NHed
Q2: While discussing changes in schools, what changes should be made in how we, both Ts & Ss, assess learning?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:37 PM EDT
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@DennisDill
Would love to see pics if you get the time.
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:37 PM EDT
A1 Would love to see grades reflect progress and effort. Average isn't supposed to be bad, yet a C is.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:38 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
#Interlakes
has a student seat. It is non-voting & public session only but does give the board a student perspective.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:39 PM EDT
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@KatieJMcNamara
That is one of the things we are changing at
#Interlakes
. Moving away from averages and towards mastery under
#CBL
.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:39 PM EDT
Would love to do more with descriptive rubrics and less with percentages. People understand descriptors better than % anyway!
#nhed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:41 PM EDT
Trailed it this year - and happy with the outcome. Plus, if you assign a # to the rubric levels, you can get a % When you need it
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:41 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
YES! Always my frustration. 80% of what? An A, that's great, what exactly does that represent?
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:41 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
True. And you can also aggregate your standards aligned assessments to show growth over time.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:42 PM EDT
@edventures
Now imagine trying to explain to parents what exactly completing a task with "80% independence" is supposed to mean
#nhed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:42 PM EDT
Admin and counselors spread across campus, instead of one building, would help Ss
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:42 PM EDT
A2 Pittsfield has moved away from letter grades and grades on a 4.0 scale
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:42 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
LOL! What 20% did they not get? Um, well...
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:43 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
I would love to see admin in classrooms more. I know they're busy, but it has such a positive effect on learning!
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:44 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
We are shifting that way as well but to a 3 point system. 0=no evidence, 1=developing, 2=proficient, 3=advanced.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:45 PM EDT
@edventures
at least in my classroom it means they were independent in 80% of attempts at completing the task, but seriously, yeah....
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:45 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
Yes! If they assist in classes it makes them a partner as opposed to a potential adversary.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:45 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
If I haven't said it lately, thank you for all that you do for your learners!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:46 PM EDT
What other things might you wish to redesign when it comes to public education?
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:47 PM EDT
@gallianstone
Right! How else will they what and awesome T you are. Ss should also know them my face in positive environment
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:48 PM EDT
@edventures
#nhed
what have you come up with so far (sorry to be late
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Lessen the opportunity gap for students of poverty and lower income
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:49 PM EDT
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@shirky17
Paul! Great to *see* you my friend! We're bouncing around but talked about mastery v grades, placement not based on age
#NHed
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:49 PM EDT
Happy landscape. Outdoor areas that inspire. Fences that blend in.
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:50 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
#nhed
why isn't averaging bad?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:51 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
There is so much of that, even here in NH. Would love to find a way to solve that problem. Any great ideas
#NHed
friends?
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:51 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
Sensory friendly spaces. With florescent lights & echoing hallways, most school buildings are a kind of sensory h***l
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:51 PM EDT
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@shirky17
I think
@KatieJMcNamara
meant average as in regular, not as % like in grades.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:52 PM EDT
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@KatieJMcNamara
Great share! I'd love to see more open space and natural areas in schools.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:52 PM EDT
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@KatieJMcNamara
and I don't just mean areas of retreat (though they're good too) - I mean making the whole building sensory friendly
#nhed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:53 PM EDT
@edventures
#NHed
would love to hear ideas
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:53 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
Indeed! Wondering what the next gen, colored LED lights will do for that? Flexible color and intensity.
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:53 PM EDT
#nhed
rsrch shows all ready to learn at diff times, all earn at diff paces, all learn in diff ways, all show mastery in diff ways...do that
KatieJMcNamara
Apr 3 @ 7:53 PM EDT
@edventures
@jencole1975
Access is the biggest hurdle. Not always tech; sometimes transportation.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
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@KatieJMcNamara
@jencole1975
True, and w/ an aging population here in NH, transportation is important to them as well.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
@edventures
@KatieJMcNamara
my house is full of those. I love them!
#nhed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
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@edventures
@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
#nhed
tunable LEDs can change temperature of white....they have them now
guilfordt
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Building schools for growth and the future and not just for today- a lot of schools are already too small when built.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
The LEDs? Really? Could you share some pics of the lighting some time?
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:56 PM EDT
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@shirky17
@gallianstone
@KatieJMcNamara
Oh man, one more thing for me to play with!
#squirrel
#NHed
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:56 PM EDT
Financial burdens of families make it hard for students to take part in duel learning courses, and they are the ones who could benefit
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:56 PM EDT
@shirky17
@edventures
@KatieJMcNamara
I have color ones all over the house & the cheap white one on the porch. All controlled by app.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:56 PM EDT
#NHed
I wonder what we could do for community transportation w/ bus systems in rural areas?
https://t.co/No0JH8tyyL
jencole1975
Apr 3 @ 7:54 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
@edventures
often times it's transportation. Pittsfield has a great ELO program, but many students don't have transportation
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:57 PM EDT
#nhed
priced tunable for my "new" room.... Would cost $8000 to replace fluorescents
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:57 PM EDT
#NHed
I also wonder what it might mean if we opened the school up to our community to improve their educational lot.
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:58 PM EDT
@edventures
@shirky17
@KatieJMcNamara
they are so much, and so nice on the eyes. Never going back to standard bulbs.
#nhed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:58 PM EDT
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@jencole1975
That is something that I'd like to see paid for w/ our tax dollars instead of some of the other fluff out there.
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:58 PM EDT
#nhed
school as a community center ; day care ; homeless shelter ....
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 3 @ 7:58 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@shirky17
@KatieJMcNamara
Ok, you convinced me. Time to investigate for my home.
#NHed
shirky17
Apr 3 @ 7:59 PM EDT
#nhed
greenhouse for every building (large
edventures
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Apr 3 @ 7:59 PM EDT
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@shirky17
Or even to learn or relearn when there isn't a higher ed org around. Build community economy by learning new trade.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 3 @ 7:59 PM EDT
@edventures
So much comes back to access needs - "If you build it..." Only works if they can get there and use what you built.
#nhed