#formativechat Archive
Discuss the implementation, impact of Formative and formative assessment.
Monday November 28, 2016
7:00 PM EST
Rdene915
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Nov 28 @ 7:00 PM EST
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:00 PM EST
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goformative great conversation
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goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:25 PM EST
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AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:28 PM EST
Let's do this!
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goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:25 PM EST
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM EST
Excited to host
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with
@rdene915
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In reply to @Rdene915
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:29 PM EST
Hey Amy! Yeah! Let's boogie!
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In reply to @AESpringstead
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM EST
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starts now! Here's the Q's and times they'll be tweeted!
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM EST
Here's the Q's and times they'll be tweeted!
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM EST
Welcome to
#formativechat
everyone! Please start by introducing yourself to our fantastic
#PLN
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:31 PM EST
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@goformative
HI Amy! HI David!
@davidwkwan
In reply to @AESpringstead, @goformative, @davidwkwan
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM EST
Q1 in our weekly chat is coming up in 1 minute! Tweet to
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and share your thoughts!
sellersmath
Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM EST
Jeff from Indiana
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM EST
Hey Rachelle!
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In reply to @Rdene915, @AESpringstead, @goformative
tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM EST
Hi, I am Toni a secondary mathematics major fullfilling educational twitter chats for my class!
#edu235
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:32 PM EST
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@goformative
#PLN
HI, Rachelle from Pittsburgh, SPanish &
#STEAM
TEacher, happy to be here for our chat!
In reply to @davidwkwan, @goformative
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Time to get started with Question 1 Don't forget
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and A1, A2, A3
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Hey Jeff! Welcome! How have you been?
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In reply to @sellersmath
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
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@goformative
HI Jeff, glad to have you join!
In reply to @sellersmath, @goformative
AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Amy Springstead from San Diego. ToSA for PD, assessment , and ed tech.
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MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Hello all! Rich from NJ here!
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goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
#formativechat
is just getting started and Q1 is now up! Join the action!
sellersmath
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Doing well, thank you!
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In reply to @davidwkwan
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:34 PM EST
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@goformative
Welcome Toni. Twitter is a great way to
#learn
build
#PLN
and
#professionaldevelopment
In reply to @tonimarianosnhu, @goformative
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:34 PM EST
Hey Richard, welcome back! How was Thanksgiving?
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In reply to @MrDiMauro
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM EST
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@goformative
Hey Rich! Have a good break?
In reply to @MrDiMauro, @goformative
laurissajones
Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM EST
Laurissa from SW MO. I teach 5th ELA
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM EST
A1: Level of general and unit specific vocab that goes into directions/ Q
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SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:35 PM EST
My name is Zack Sprunger from Grove City College
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:36 PM EST
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@goformative
Welcome Laurissa!
In reply to @laurissajones, @goformative
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:36 PM EST
A1(con): We can provide Ss with Q/ prompt starters as well as a word bank of action words that all Ss can understand
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MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:36 PM EST
A1 I think the hardest part is the students creating rigorous questions. Last year I really tried to model with examples
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:36 PM EST
Welcome Zack! How was your Thanksgiving?
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In reply to @SprungerZack
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:36 PM EST
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@goformative
Hi Zack! PA is here tonight :) Were you at
@Edcampgcc
in the spring?
In reply to @SprungerZack, @goformative, @Edcampgcc
EduGladiators
Nov 28 @ 7:37 PM EST
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:38 PM EST
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@goformative
A1 the type and level of questioning used. Guide the Ss, give some support/ideas, so they can begin
In reply to @goformative
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:38 PM EST
What were the key take-aways of modeling the creation of rigorous Q's?
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In reply to @MrDiMauro
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:38 PM EST
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@goformative
Always comes back to that modeling, giving an example, helps to build confidence too
In reply to @MrDiMauro, @goformative
AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:38 PM EST
A1: Make contexts accessible for all students to remove barriers that prevent Ss from showing you what they know.
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SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:39 PM EST
No but I know what you mean. I remember it going on here.
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In reply to @Rdene915, @goformative, @Edcampgcc
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:40 PM EST
definitely! how can you help Ss learn to do this when creating assessments for their peers?
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In reply to @AESpringstead
laurissajones
Nov 28 @ 7:40 PM EST
A1-Question stems are a good way to model for Ss. Also teaching question types (right there, author &a me, etc...)
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:40 PM EST
Yeah, that can be difficult especially when there are so many things that go into it
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In reply to @MrDiMauro
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:41 PM EST
Q2 is coming up in
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:41 PM EST
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@goformative
Agreed, leading by example, giving a reference helps. I always did better with this in place
In reply to @laurissajones, @goformative
SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:41 PM EST
A1: I would say how questions are worded definitely can affect the difficulty of an assessment.
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AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
Have Ss work in groups to develop questions. If they have to explain context to a group member, find a new one.
@davidwkwan
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In reply to @davidwkwan
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
RT Question 1
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@goformative
In reply to @goformative
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:33 PM EST
Time to get started with Question 1 Don't forget
#formativechat
and A1, A2, A3
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#formative
#edtech
#stuvoice
tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
A1: Difficulties in formative assessments for students who have anxiety about test struggle to prove what they know
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#edu235
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
Agreed! How can you help Ss consider this when making assessments for their peers?
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In reply to @SprungerZack
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:43 PM EST
Q2!
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SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:43 PM EST
I'll hafta check it out in the spring!
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In reply to @Rdene915, @goformative, @Edcampgcc
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:43 PM EST
Q2 is now up in
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!
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:44 PM EST
Great practical tip to help Ss validate the language they are using on assessments they make for peers!
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AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
Have Ss work in groups to develop questions. If they have to explain context to a group member, find a new one.
@davidwkwan
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In reply to @davidwkwan
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:44 PM EST
Love that you brought this up!
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In reply to @tonimarianosnhu
MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:44 PM EST
A2 Outside of skill level? Possibly by type of question, Multiple Choice, Fill in the blank, matching, open-ended.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:45 PM EST
How can Ss help reduce this anxiety when taking the role of assessment creator and evaluator?
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In reply to @tonimarianosnhu
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:45 PM EST
Awesome point to bring up!
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tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:42 PM EST
A1: Difficulties in formative assessments for students who have anxiety about test struggle to prove what they know
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#edu235
AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:45 PM EST
A2: I like diverse groups that change each unit. Have the same groups that create assessments take them.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:46 PM EST
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@goformative
A2 Have Ss work together,or work in a group based on questions they didnt create, mix it up somtimes
In reply to @davidwkwan, @goformative
laurissajones
Nov 28 @ 7:46 PM EST
A2-I group by book groups, but also mixed ability to get a variety of question types.
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tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:46 PM EST
A2: seperate/disperse studs tht demonstrate understanding w/lead. skills w/those who will learn best from their peers
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#edu235
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:47 PM EST
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@goformative
Great point, have to focus on the anxiety part too, how can we prepare ahead
In reply to @davidwkwan, @tonimarianosnhu, @goformative
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:47 PM EST
Are you referring to pairing Ss with similar skill levels what do you think are the pros and cons?
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In reply to @MrDiMauro
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:48 PM EST
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@goformative
#edu235
Yes,
#peercollaboration
Ss can learn from each other, builds relationships too
In reply to @tonimarianosnhu, @goformative
AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:48 PM EST
A2: I have tried many strategies but like "random" the best. " " because I will shuffle a kid to a diff group intentionally.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:48 PM EST
Love it! Got me thinking that as the teacher can engage Ss in curating assessments with Ss's varying
#DOK
+ question types!
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laurissajones
Nov 28 @ 7:46 PM EST
A2-I group by book groups, but also mixed ability to get a variety of question types.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
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@goformative
LIke this, also can use a fun name picker created on
@classtools
totally random
In reply to @AESpringstead, @goformative, @classtools
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
Such a creative idea!
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tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:46 PM EST
A2: seperate/disperse studs tht demonstrate understanding w/lead. skills w/those who will learn best from their peers
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#edu235
MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
Always gotta keep the students guessing!
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In reply to @AESpringstead
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
Q3 is coming up in
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!
kncaton
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
A2. Would love to see Ss reflect on a skill extra practice is needed and have them work in an assessment group on that skill
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:51 PM EST
Here is Question 3!
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@goformative
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In reply to @goformative
MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:51 PM EST
And I like to see the roles they take in group work and how they work with others
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In reply to @AESpringstead, @davidwkwan
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:52 PM EST
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@goformative
Student reflection is so vital to their growth and
#ownershipinlearning
In reply to @kncaton, @goformative
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:52 PM EST
isn't pairing high and low skill level Ss already telling yo who strong/weak kid is in the group.
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In reply to @AESpringstead, @MrDiMauro
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:53 PM EST
or maybe I misunderstood!
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In reply to @AESpringstead, @MrDiMauro
laurissajones
Nov 28 @ 7:54 PM EST
A3-That's why flex groups to reteach and reassess are so vital to moving Ss toward a 🎯. You can have those necessary convos.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:54 PM EST
Ah, I see, yeah pair heterogenous groups can have this negative effect
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In reply to @AESpringstead, @MrDiMauro
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:54 PM EST
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@goformative
#reflection
A3 Have conversations, offer support, guide them through self-assessment as well, set goals
In reply to @goformative
kncaton
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
A3. Provide leading questions and sentence starters. Modeling required for authentic peer/self assessment
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MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
It gives the strong Ss a chance to lead and guide the weaker group. Low ss could learn from them!
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In reply to @davidwkwan, @AESpringstead
TeacherMarkJam
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
A3 A performance rubric that they understand and an open communication to review with their peers
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SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
A3: Going over exams as a class and figuring out why you (a student) missed a problem so that you don't miss it in the future.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
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@goformative
That communication is so important, so many benefits
In reply to @laurissajones, @goformative
tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:56 PM EST
A3:correct:we retain what we learn by discussionsincorrect: understand in a diff. way teacher may have missed
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#edu235
davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:56 PM EST
Great post-assessment idea! Group Ss based on skills they need to work on!
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kncaton
Nov 28 @ 7:50 PM EST
A2. Would love to see Ss reflect on a skill extra practice is needed and have them work in an assessment group on that skill
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kncaton
Nov 28 @ 7:56 PM EST
flex grouping rocks.
@Bescheetz_NBCT
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In reply to @laurissajones, @Bescheetz_NBCT
SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
A3: Also not overemphasizing the importance of exams. Exams are important but true learning is key.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
Agreed!
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kncaton
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
A3. Provide leading questions and sentence starters. Modeling required for authentic peer/self assessment
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
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@goformative
Definitely, modeling to help Ss at first, then they can be more indep, and Ts facilitate
In reply to @kncaton, @goformative
goformative
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
Great idea for Ss to work together in grading their own assessments!
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TeacherMarkJam
Nov 28 @ 7:55 PM EST
A3 A performance rubric that they understand and an open communication to review with their peers
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AESpringstead
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
A3: Ss learn to identify what is required in a response. It helps develop more complete/in depth answers.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:58 PM EST
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@goformative
Do you think most Ss follow along? Sometimes it is difficult w larger classes,
In reply to @SprungerZack, @goformative
SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:58 PM EST
A student can understand material but not do well on an exam. Encouraging those students as a teacher can have a big impact.
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MrDiMauro
Nov 28 @ 7:58 PM EST
A3 They can discuss not only their performance but how they got to that point. What they did well, or could do better.
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Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:58 PM EST
@SprungerZack
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@goformative
Yes, exams are, but the emphasis is on growth, long term acquisition of skills and knowledge!
SprungerZack
Nov 28 @ 7:57 PM EST
A3: Also not overemphasizing the importance of exams. Exams are important but true learning is key.
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davidwkwan
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:59 PM EST
Definitely! Encourage Ss to share the ways they remember, use Ss creativity for re-teaching
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In reply to @tonimarianosnhu
tonimarianosnhu
Nov 28 @ 7:56 PM EST
A3:correct:we retain what we learn by discussionsincorrect: understand in a diff. way teacher may have missed
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#edu235
Rdene915
- Moderator
Nov 28 @ 7:59 PM EST
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@goformative
I was one of those Ss at times, knew material, tests were difficult, but I still know the info.
In reply to @SprungerZack, @goformative
participatelrn
Nov 28 @ 8:00 PM EST
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legitkfrauey
Nov 28 @ 8:00 PM EST
So sorry I missed the chat tonight!
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