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BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #isedchat tonight! Pls tell us your name and where from as you pop in. I'm Beth from Baltimore.

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Busy night tonight with the debate and concert season. Come join in the discussion as you can. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Rob from Dallas St. John's Episcopal. Just home home from coaching 2nd grade soccer! #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@BethRheingold #isedchat Kevin, in London (yes, that London). Unable to sleep, so I’m listening in to the chat!

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:02 PM EDT

@skeeTX Hey Rob, thanks for joining! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:03 PM EDT

@kevinjruth wow! so excited to have you join us! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Tonight my daughter is doing math HW while my husb entertains boarding Ss. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:06 PM EDT

tonight: community engaged learning. #isedchat.

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:06 PM EDT

we will abbrev with CEL for our conversation. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:07 PM EDT

@kevinjruth @skeeTX Are you familiar w community engaged learning? #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Q1. What does it mean to shift the conversation from community service to community engaged learning (CEL)? #isedchat

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Lorri here from CT. I am preparing for Parent Conferences tomorrow and will do my best to keep up! #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:09 PM EDT

@BethRheingold #isedchat Nomenclature can vary around the world, so a brief explanation would be helpful. I deal with diverse nomenclature.

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@BethRheingold I love this terminology- I have not heard it before. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:10 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @kevinjruth I am. Currently I'm in year 4 as a Service Learning advisor working w/ local elementary schools. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:11 PM EDT

@kevinjruth CEL is a shift away from comm service: working w members of a comm rather than merely "giving" to them. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1: not just giving time, but Ss learning about those they serve. Planning, researching, presenting, engaging, impacting #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:12 PM EDT

@BethRheingold A1. At first blush, it would seem a constructive move from doing something for someone else, to doing it with them. #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1: I like that terminology. Even more so than "service learning." #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Community engaged learning is a method of teaching where students, faculty and community partners work together to apply knowledge #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:13 PM EDT

in settings that address community needs and meet instructional objectives using action and reflection. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:14 PM EDT

@kevinjruth This is exactly it! #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Our 8th graders work w/ young kids, refugees, elderly, the hungry and the local prairie. Spend Mondays off campus in community #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:15 PM EDT

@skeeTX This sounds like a great example. The focus shifts from doing something for someone in need, to working w them. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:16 PM EDT

@BethRheingold Exactly. Building relationships and affecting others positively in our community. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:17 PM EDT

there are Univ developing civic-minded programs to shift our conversation from service to reciprocity. #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:17 PM EDT

#isedchat A1 contd. I think that the notion of doing something ‘for’ is OK, as opposed to doing stg ‘to’ someone.

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:18 PM EDT

@kevinjruth I agree but am compelled by another preposition: with. that seems to be changing the conversation. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:20 PM EDT

the pic I used for tonight's topic was made by teen boys from an area in Baltimore pop. by Jews, Latinos, and African Americans. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:21 PM EDT

the boys worked collaboratively to get to know ea other. Rather than a group coming in to help. #isedchat

JeremyDBond Apr 14 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Parent from CT here. My daughter's classmates did this... is it community service or engaged learning? https://t.co/gFdN9SCNrp #isedchat

JeremyDBond Apr 14 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Parent from CT here. My daughter's classmates did this... is it community service or engaged learning? https://t.co/CpvPPBHw6W #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:21 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @kevinjruth I agree "with" changes the whole idea and emphasizes the true community learning by all #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:22 PM EDT

@JeremyDBond so I think that's the Q! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:23 PM EDT

@JeremyDBond service suggests a relationship in which one group provides help to a needy group. not a bad thing! but what if...#isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:24 PM EDT

we shift it to sharing? #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Going to ask another Q in 1 minute...#isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:25 PM EDT

How can we integrate community engaged learning (CEL) into our curriculum? #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:25 PM EDT

oops, that's Q2. sorry, a long day! #isedchat

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:26 PM EDT

@skeeTX I have been trying to tie projects back to students at an assembly where guests speak to students and I share pics/video. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@lcarroll94 are Ss involved in the projects? or to inspire them to get involved? #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:27 PM EDT

A2: CEL can be easily implemented b/c learning isn't just content delivery in a classroom. Ss can get out and experience learning #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@BethRheingold A2. What if we didn’t integrate it? Instead, what if we built everything else around it? #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:28 PM EDT

@kevinjruth I'm so glad you had insomnia--brilliant point. What if indeed! #isedchat

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@BethRheingold Both. We have various service projects students can participate in monthly. They kick off and wrap up at assembly. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@lcarroll94 Our Ss present to Ps at end of trimester. I have great colleagues leading the way too! Important for all to join. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:29 PM EDT

@skeeTX that's a key point Rob: it's about experiential learning, PBL, problem solving, community bldg. #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A2 maybe by involving community in school and working with them to help and support?#isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:30 PM EDT

CEL w/ reflection allows Ss to demonstrate learning in a way other than tests, quizzes etc. growth via experience #isedchat

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@skeeTX Yes! Our students lead assembly and are involved. Members of our community come to share the impact of our projects. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:31 PM EDT

@kevinjruth I want to think more about what this would look like. A USA org, but we should all be part of: https://t.co/n8yfZp5hgQ #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:32 PM EDT

next Q coming up in 1 minute...#isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3. Why is it important for independent school Ss to engage in CEL? #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT

If diff communities used our schools after hours we could perhaps begin to work together to problem solve diff issues #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A3: Indy schools can't be bubbles excluding Ss from surrounding community. It's a big world in which we play our part #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3: Independent schools typically have a view of the world that is not representative of the world. CEL can change this. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:35 PM EDT

@8rinaldi @skeeTX do your schools have partnerships w any public schools? #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:36 PM EDT

@teachermrw Yes! and get Ss away from donations and into civic work in collaboration w student peers. #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3 imp to build empathy, relationships, community building, bring in guests from local community #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @8rinaldi Yes, we are pk-8 and we've partnered w/ 2 local elementary schools for service learning. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@teachermrw In what ways? #isedchat

JeremyDBond Apr 14 @ 9:37 PM EDT

@lcarroll94 @skeeTX that's so cool! #isedchat

lcarroll94 - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@BethRheingold Social responsibility is part of my school's mission. Important to model/teach/engage students of all ages. #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@BethRheingold Exactly. Much of "service" learning continues to be noblesse oblige in independent schools. #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:38 PM EDT

@skeeTX Do I really have to go there? LOL! #isedchat No shade, but, really?

JeremyDBond Apr 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@BethRheingold think I'm learning the distinction. ;) #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:39 PM EDT

@skeeTX that's awesome. in baltimore we have the Middle Grades Program, partnering w MS students but in the summer. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

I'm sorry to be so late to the conversation. Putting my counseling degree to use with my 11 year old! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@JeremyDBond it's having a trickle down effect from universities to secondary ed. new terminology! #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@skeeTX If we understand the cultural underpinnings of indy schools in general, they foster a view of the world via a white lens. #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @skeeTX we've had partnerships globally but not douche locally. That needs to change! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@NNSPartnership yay! welcome! #isedchat

kevinjruth Apr 14 @ 9:40 PM EDT

@BethRheingold A3. For one thing, it would show Ss living into moniker “independent,” and that’s important from brand perspective. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:41 PM EDT

@teachermrw I'm just sure I'd categorize all Indy schools in that way. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:42 PM EDT

@skeeTX you're right, Rob. many indy schools doing great work out there. can't generalize. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT

@NNSPartnership would you discuss what your org does to encourage CEL? #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Indy schools have so much to gain from CEL. Including breaking down stereotypes of their own schools. #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:43 PM EDT

@BethRheingold Nothing's perfect but there are many strides being made. Need to keep the momentum. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT

There are some great Indy schools involved in this work. You can see many here https://t.co/rNsMTlXM0o #isedchat

JeremyDBond Apr 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@BethRheingold grateful to get to learn about it here! #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT

NNSP aims to strengthen these partnerships by sharing best practices across the country #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:44 PM EDT

@NNSPartnership awesome, thank you! this is a learning night for all! #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@teachermrw So how is that lens changed? #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:45 PM EDT

We have regional meetings bringing together pub/pri/charter educators who want to increase comm engagement to improve Ed for all #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:45 PM EDT

@JeremyDBond @BethRheingold Great to see parents informed. Need Ps partnering w/ us, not abdicating. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Q4 coming up in 1...#isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:46 PM EDT

@skeeTX A shift in cultural perspective. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:46 PM EDT

We share stories, help connect leaders, and encourage all schools to move from service to engagement #isedchat

skeeTX Apr 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Thx, all. Have to run. Need to read w/ my son! #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@skeeTX I suppose it begins with noblesse oblige. Then, hopefully, via this low-hanging fruit, other perspectives emerge. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT

@skeeTX rob, as always, thanks so much for participating! #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:47 PM EDT

Q4. How can partnerships w other schools generate social change? #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A4: Public-private school partnerships are perhaps some of the best local partnerships that can be developed. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:49 PM EDT

A4 1st- you are helping Ss become comfortable with conversations that are uncomfortable. Helping them navigate new situations. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:50 PM EDT

A4 pt 2 this will allow them to grow into adults who are willing to tackle hard ?s, can relate to people who aren't like them #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@NNSPartnership just went to a mural dedication about this. so much tension in baltimore. trying to solve it thru CEL like art. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:51 PM EDT

@teachermrw @skeeTX #isedchat yes- and it's our job to help them move away from that perspective. Service has its place, but engagement is 💯

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:52 PM EDT

@BethRheingold #isedchat I have heard about this program. So awesome!!

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A4 Indy/ public partnerships help Ss see different perspectives, build empathy, engage Ss with each other and pose new challenges #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:53 PM EDT

last Q coming up...#isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:53 PM EDT

@teachermrw #isedchat I understand that. Didn't mean to suggest that you were!

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:54 PM EDT

A5. so what are the challenges for CEL? how can privilege meet public, so to speak? #isedchat

IndyCurriculum Apr 14 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Next FREE ICG webinars: Classroom Gamification 4/19 https://t.co/MrnBbQj4p7 & Majoring in High School 4/20 https://t.co/2l87kDySdG #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5 on equal ground, attention to the power dynamic and with a relationship based on trust #isedchat

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:56 PM EDT

A5: Having an enlightened school leadership that is committed to and intentional about equity and justice. That filters down. #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@NNSPartnership @teachermrw awesome answers! trust, equity, justice. Kids can do this together. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:57 PM EDT

@teachermrw #isedchat absolutely. An admin team that supports this work and says "this is who we are"

teachermrw Apr 14 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @NNSPartnership Yes, they can. In many ways, more effectively than adults. #isedchat

8rinaldi Apr 14 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A5 need to schedule suff time to be meaningful. Equal decision and problem solving opportunities both leading build relationships #isedchat

BethRheingold - Moderator Apr 14 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@teachermrw @NNSPartnership I totally agree. they are better equipped to break down barriers. #isedchat

NNSPartnership Apr 14 @ 9:59 PM EDT

@BethRheingold @teachermrw #isedchat it's like a language. If you start early enough, there are no barriers for them to break down.