#vachat Archive
#vachat is a great way for Virginia educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday December 12, 2016
8:00 PM EST
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening
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. I'm ready to guide us through a discussion about a hard topic - talking about cancer with your students
TiawanaG
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Dec 12 @ 8:02 PM EST
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Welcome everyone
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:03 PM EST
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Hi everyone! Alana Stanton here from Dacula, Georgia. Ready to learn. We have had our community hit hard and I need to know more
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hey Alana! Glad you could join us
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Pirate_Edu
Dec 12 @ 8:04 PM EST
hey
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Samier Caceres , ready to learn !
rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:04 PM EST
Good evening. Welcome to
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If you haven't yet read
@Mr_B_Teacher
https://t.co/pXBKvOlHed
Do so!
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:04 PM EST
Good evening. Welcome to
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If you haven't yet read
@Mr_B_Teacher
https://t.co/fY4QjAp9r5
Do so!
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:04 PM EST
Evening
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ers! Phil, Elem. principal, glad you could join us for this topic.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:04 PM EST
Big shout out to my co mods
@TiawanaG
@rggillespie
@philgriffins
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
Glad you could join us
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TiawanaG
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Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
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@TiawanaG
checking in from Richmond. Ready to discuss this Cancer in the Classroom.
@OrganicLeaderVB
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@roperrlr
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
Teresa from NY, MS Literacy Teacher.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
Committed to participating in my first
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and thrilled to see the topic (added it to my calendar and everything) Erin from spotsy
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
Hello friend!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:05 PM EST
hey there!
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:06 PM EST
Reed...High School AP from Charlottesville. Really looking forward to tonight's convo--a different type than we're used to
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TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:06 PM EST
“
@Mr_B_Teacher
: Big shout out to my co mods
@TiawanaG
@rggillespie
@philgriffins
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” We learn from each other. We are better together.
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:06 PM EST
Toni from Spotsy. 7th grade math teacher. Interesting topic tonight!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:06 PM EST
In the interest of full disclosure, I have the Qs prepared, but not scheduled. I want this to be organic, but I'm forgetful lately.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:07 PM EST
thanks for joining us!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:07 PM EST
headachy tonight, but ready to share
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:07 PM EST
Let's do Q1 in a minute
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:08 PM EST
I am ready to learn from one of the bravest people I know!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:08 PM EST
you're going to make me blush
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jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
Thank you
@Mr_B_Teacher
for sharing your story.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:02 PM EST
Good evening
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. I'm ready to guide us through a discussion about a hard topic - talking about cancer with your students
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q1 - start with the obvious
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
thanks for following it
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
I say it like it is friend.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:10 PM EST
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jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
yes. I tell my students. I think they need to know what is going on.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:10 PM EST
Looking forward to it!
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:10 PM EST
John Bennett, Emeritus Engineering living in Midlothian.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: As a young teacher, I made the mistake of separating my life from that of my students. I know better now
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:10 PM EST
A1: I feel like I would want some information to tell them. Perhaps not right away?
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
interesting perspective. I didn't tell them right away either.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1. Yes, at the point it begins to impact instruction. I would prob keep it quiet as long as I could.
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Pirate_Edu
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
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yes, tell students. Make sure it does not intrude with lesson.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
A1: yes, I am honest with them so I would share (I teach MS)
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KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
Hi
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! Sorry we are a bit late! We are a tech startup with a passion for education based in New Zealand!
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
what do you mean?
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
why's that?
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
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A1: Not unless and until it impacts your facilitation of Effective Learning.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:09 PM EST
Q1 - start with the obvious
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rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
Thanks for joining
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...curious to as why you would wait?
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
Don't for the
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
Not going to lie. This made my stomach drop. Yes I would have to tell them. I know they could handle it. And they are strong in a battle
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
why's that?
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
I definitely would share, but would want to know more myself.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 cont. I think about how I told my students I was pregnant. Not being able be with them for part of a year was important to share
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
I wanted to wait until I had an official diagnosis and enough details
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KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
A1: I think so. If I was a S, I would want to know. Who knows, maybe you could even use it as a powerful lesson (science?)
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
Gen, 6th gr. T in MO. A1) I would tell my Ss. I'd need their love and support along the journey.
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
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A1: as an admin I don't think I would want to tell staff or Ss. I always think its my job to support/help them, not other wayvaround
L_Roadcap
Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
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A1: I think I would tell them. They would naturally be curious to know what's going on, anyway.
rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
@Mr_B_Teacher
How did the students respond? How about the parents?
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
I wanted to wait until I had an official diagnosis and enough details
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
Q2 kind of goes with Q1 so Ill push it out now.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
That's what I would want. I agree. I wouldn't keep it from them.
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
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A1 I think my students would have to know pretty soon bc they could tell something was wrong.And we would get through it.Many hugs
KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
That may not be a great idea though, what do you all think?
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1: Absolutely, I'd tell my students. It goes along with building relationships.
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L_Roadcap
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
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Glad I was able to meet lots of educators last week at
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. Thanks to all who attended my sessions!
TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
This is powerful. Let them know that life happens to everyone.
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:13 PM EST
Gen, 6th gr. T in MO. A1) I would tell my Ss. I'd need their love and support along the journey.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1: my Ss were worried I might leave for another job, I couldn't keep something like this from them
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
Incredible...
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:11 PM EST
Not going to lie. This made my stomach drop. Yes I would have to tell them. I know they could handle it. And they are strong in a battle
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
A1&2 - I told my students. I knew I would be out for a long time and they deserved to know the truth. We are a family.
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TiawanaG
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Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
I agree. It all goes back to relationships.
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1: Absolutely, I'd tell my students. It goes along with building relationships.
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
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I disagree. As admin I would want to tell Ss & Ts. When my wife had "C" I told them & it became a great support.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2: I know what it's like to lose someone unexpectedly, I would never ever want my Ss to experience that.
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: By sharing we show our own strengths and weaknesses. We're modeling and inspiring.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
A1&2 - It's important to model strength through a trying time. Cancer impacts 75% of all families. We can't ignore it.
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
@philgriffins
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Admins need support too
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: they would be a huge impact on my recovery, I know THEY are who would push me to stay strong and get better
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
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a2 I would tell them bc they are part of my family, They would help me see I have a team. And they have families that will prayer
rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
Chances are several of our students have been impacted by cancer or something similar. By sharing we give them strength/friendship
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
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This will be important because it will be obvious - body changes and time out of classroom. Still wait for the 'bump.'
ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:12 PM EST
A1 cont. I think about how I told my students I was pregnant. Not being able be with them for part of a year was important to share
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
A2) My Ss become part of my life during a schl yr. Why shut them out? They should know, and they would be part of my support system.
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OrganicLeaderVB
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
I'll be in
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in a moment...just getting in!
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
not that great in asking for support, always joke God gave me wide shoulders to support others...
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
how would it not intrude with class time tho? They would have a ton of questions
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
Agree.
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TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
I agree on both sides. Its important that we know our school community. We have to be careful, supportive, and courageous.
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
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I disagree. As admin I would want to tell Ss & Ts. When my wife had "C" I told them & it became a great support.
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TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:18 PM EST
Hooray.
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OrganicLeaderVB
Dec 12 @ 8:17 PM EST
I'll be in
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in a moment...just getting in!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:18 PM EST
For perspetive, I had eighteen between finding out my cancer spread and having to leave to begin chemo.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2 I was a 2nd grade teacher, would have an open and honest Convo with the parents first &then kids. I believe It takes a village
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:18 PM EST
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A2: why not for me... Out staff & students have enough things to worry about... I don't want to add to that list.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:19 PM EST
I did both on the same day. Students first tho.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:19 PM EST
There are times we need to set aside the academics and have real, tough conversations.
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This would be one of those.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:19 PM EST
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This was a big motivator for me
jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:18 PM EST
I would rather them know the truth than have people speculate.
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:19 PM EST
Yes! Our classrooms become families! We have to be honest, even when it's hard.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:15 PM EST
A1&2 - I told my students. I knew I would be out for a long time and they deserved to know the truth. We are a family.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:19 PM EST
no right or wrong way to handle it. Just asking your opinion.
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jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
totally agree! Parents need to be in the know.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3 Let's talk the how
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
Q3 - not A3
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3 Let's talk the how
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
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I think there needs to be an impact... E.g., if you had a new child coming, why is it important to facilitating Effective Learning?
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rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:21 PM EST
A3: Honestly no clue. I've been saying I'd share but I'm an extremely private person...tend to share more w/ students than peers
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
The simple time out of the classroom is a big factor. But beyond that, modeling changes. More to teaching than just academic
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KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
A2: If I was a S, I would feel trusted and valued if my T told me something like that. Personal preference though I think
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3: I would tell them the basic facts, open up for discussion and answer questions
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
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A3: I just told Ss my wife had "C" and they may not see me as much during treatment. Told Admin everything. Ts some details.
Pirate_Edu
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
Q2- I dont know how 2 handle something so serious.Any suggestions I would like to knw if something like this ever comes up
#edu235th
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3 Long answer -
https://t.co/2hGx5exnuX
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rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3: I think this phrase is often over-used, but this A TEACHABLE MOMENT
#ForReal
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
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A2: Your responsibility is the Ss' Effective Learning. Unless and until your circumstances impact that, not appropriate to me.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:14 PM EST
Q2 kind of goes with Q1 so Ill push it out now.
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jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
not sure I would go into too much detail. This is where parent involvement is important.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3 Short answer - I was straightforward and honest. Gave them facts. Gave them time for questions
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
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A3 I would do it during morning meeting.I would tell them I love them & what is happening.We would make bracelets together to team
evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3) I would tell them what I feel they need to know. Stick to facts. Don't overwhelm them, don't upset them emotionally.
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
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Like when a company wants to bury bad news, Friday afternoon. Just enough time to answer questions & make sure everyone was ok.(ish)
TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
You inform the "Ps" first. Make sure it age/grade level appropriate. Keep in min. Chemo, strengths/weakness
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& pics.
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rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3: A lot depends on who and what you teach.
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For some students it might be too much for them to handle, need to be sensitive to them
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
I did it on Monday. I wanted time throughout the week for my Ss to ask any new Qs
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:24 PM EST
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Might someone tell me about this conference (I presume)?
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:25 PM EST
A3. Probably the bare facts at 1st and thenLeave the convo open &return to it to answer ?s as they come up. Give time to process.
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:25 PM EST
A3: I teach middle school. I'd pull them all to the carpet like elementary and just talk, being honest. Then let them ask ?'s.
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TiawanaG
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Dec 12 @ 8:25 PM EST
Kudos to you. Honest & open.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3 Short answer - I was straightforward and honest. Gave them facts. Gave them time for questions
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:25 PM EST
Time for their Qs is invaluable
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:25 PM EST
A3 the questions flowed all week. Don't expect it to be a one and done conversation
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
no "perfect" time, is there? .. Just what works best for you...
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
I think we have to ask ourselves: is it the Ss who cannot handle the news or do we fear telling it? Just curious.
@Mr_B_Teacher
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
honesty is key
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MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
absolutely. Your story is inspiring.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
EXACTLY what I would do.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:26 PM EST
absolutely. I think pros and cons to both
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:27 PM EST
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A3 I would have to do it early in the week. My kinders would have to see me the next day for sure
ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:27 PM EST
A3 my primary teacher mindset goes to morning meeting and it becoming part of the daily conversation -part of our class community.
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:27 PM EST
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But isn't 'automatically sharing' asking for non-Effective Learning dialogue???
rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: By sharing we show our own strengths and weaknesses. We're modeling and inspiring.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:27 PM EST
Shows you care for your Ss AND yourself. Very brave.
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:28 PM EST
Justin b3cause not everyone knows you... Share What grade you teach and how did they handle it?
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KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:28 PM EST
A3: V dependent on age, maturity, other contexts. For example, what if some Ss have family with cancer? Maybe this could help them
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:28 PM EST
Q4 expands on Q3
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:28 PM EST
I should have said this in the intro - I teach fourth grade. My students took the news really well. Showed so much compassion
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:29 PM EST
NEVER on a Friday!
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:29 PM EST
They were very sad at first, but quickly turned to curiousity. Lots of questions. Did it take from content? Yes. But school is more
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rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4: Simply, cancer is the 2nd leading cause of death in the US
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jzicari_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:29 PM EST
you tell because it is sadly part of our lives. Someone they know is affected. The kids need to be aware.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
We need to allow them to question, feel and confide in us.
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
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I would want my whole class and I to make uplifting pictures or a big mural quote board that shows we are in it together. Focusboard
KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
And maybe it can help other Ss empathize with their classmates who have a burden that they cannot understand.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4 statistically its impossible to have a classroom of Ss not affected in some way by cancer. We do a disservice by not addressing
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4 I didnt share the specific type of cancer. Saying testicle in front of fourth graders probably wouldn't go well.
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4: we lost a 3rd grader a couple of years ago, it impacts their lives, on many levels
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:31 PM EST
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A4: Many of them have had family w/"C". It provides an outlet & sounding board they might be able to relate to.
rggillespie
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Dec 12 @ 8:31 PM EST
We're talking about this right now on
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...Please join the convo
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:31 PM EST
A4) Because cancer is not something to fear. Discuss it. Learn about it. Knowledge is power!
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:31 PM EST
#vachat
But that's important only when 'changes' make questions about 'time out of classroom' are likely... That's me!!!
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:22 PM EST
The simple time out of the classroom is a big factor. But beyond that, modeling changes. More to teaching than just academic
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In reply to @jcbjr
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
This is so much more important.
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In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
mrterborg
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
#vachat
You may find this interesting.
SamPatue
Dec 12 @ 8:30 PM EST
Testicular Cancer and a Ballsy Sense of Tumer
https://t.co/RXBJcejbC1
via
@markbarnes19
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mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
Ss are more resilient than we give them credit for.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher, @philgriffins
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
A4 Cancer affects lots of people. School is a place of learning in all regards
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
Great point! Too often we shy away from the difficult conversations at the expense of the students
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In reply to @evsmomgen
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:32 PM EST
#vachat
A4 It is affecting our community. Ss need to know what it is and ways to help others. Thinking outside ourselves
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:33 PM EST
@Mr_B_Teacher
You know your students and YOUR comfort level. That's what is important.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:33 PM EST
What do you teach? curious
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In reply to @jcbjr
MATHwithMADISON
Dec 12 @ 8:35 PM EST
A4: Everyone knows someone who has cancer. My Dad is battling cancer. It's making connections and showing empathy & being honest
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chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:35 PM EST
been lurking after reading some of the posts from
@teresagross625
& I want to add your journey w/ ur Ss is so healthy!
@Mr_B_Teacher
#vachat
In reply to @teresagross625, @Mr_B_Teacher
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:36 PM EST
Q5
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:36 PM EST
Thanks for joining us
#vachat
Can honestly say I haven't ever seen a topic on any twitter chat as "real" as this one
In reply to @chrisp16
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:37 PM EST
@Mr_B_Teacher
By sharing ur battle vs Big C will help them face so much. Was a child when sister went thru & talk would have helped.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:37 PM EST
Agreed! Shows what a strong bond and relationship you have!
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In reply to @chrisp16, @Mr_B_Teacher
KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:37 PM EST
A4 As others have said, IMO it helps Ss w cancer in their lives to know that they are not alone and we are all there for each other
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:37 PM EST
Cancer is scariest when we don't know. Not talking about it can lead to more speculation
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:31 PM EST
A4) Because cancer is not something to fear. Discuss it. Learn about it. Knowledge is power!
#vachat
rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5: Let the students be the guide to what's next...I'm thinking a K-W-L to start and go from there
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chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:38 PM EST
Agreed! We as Ts need to address these topics. Part of SEL in the clsrm.
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In reply to @rggillespie
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5 We read a trade book called The Can in Cancer. Helped the discussion flow
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teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:39 PM EST
A5: I have learned so much reading your blogs. Extremely helpful, for so many reasons.
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:39 PM EST
exactly. Kids are curious. We do a disservice by not talking
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In reply to @chrisp16
mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:40 PM EST
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A5: I let Ss know that early ID was key. We didn't really use resources. Just told them I was nervous & scared for her
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:40 PM EST
It needs to be viewed as something with an eventual cure for all by possibly one of our Ss.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:40 PM EST
As we talk through this, keep in mind there are no right or wrong answers. You need to do what is best for you and your students.
#vachat
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:40 PM EST
exactly. The chance for a cure is something we talked about a lot
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In reply to @chrisp16
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:41 PM EST
#vachat
I would use my pln to help with resources. This Can for Cancer book would help me start. I would want us as a class to team up
evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:41 PM EST
A5) Good question...I'd let my Ss direct our inquiry. I'd let them find helpful resources to share.
#vachat
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:41 PM EST
What grade level? I'm curious. Early ID is def key
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In reply to @mrwilliamsworld
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:42 PM EST
Ss also need to no the power of humor & positive thinking. Also alternative avenues can be explored. Don't give up!
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:42 PM EST
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A3: Honest discussion when obvious confusion is likely!
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:20 PM EST
A3 Let's talk the how
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rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:42 PM EST
A5: In a HS history class, I'm immediately drawn to Guns, Germs and Steel...historical medicine/health becomes real
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chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:43 PM EST
So many avenues can be explored by the Ss. It can be across all the content areas as well as literature.
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:44 PM EST
A5 I think it would be very organic. Using Ss own experiences as a jumping off point and then including families &then searching PLN
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:44 PM EST
Lots of kids have cancer stories through their families. Some end well, some don't.
#vachat
In reply to @ErinWest_ITRT
KamiSchools
Dec 12 @ 8:44 PM EST
So true! It cannot all be doom and gloom, which IMO is best avoided by being open and honest
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In reply to @chrisp16
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:44 PM EST
Not familiar. Sounds interesting.
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In reply to @rggillespie
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q6 It's going to affect more than our students
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:45 PM EST
Yeah I didn't share my type either with my fourth graders
#vachat
In reply to @mrwilliamsworld
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:46 PM EST
That's reality. We shouldn't shy away from.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher, @ErinWest_ITRT
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:46 PM EST
A6: I admit, I am so private, this would be hard for me.
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:46 PM EST
#vachat
A5: I guess (don't know; fortunately never encountered the need) I'd seek a basic information video or website and then start Q&A.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:36 PM EST
Q5
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
it's seeming to so far
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In reply to @ErinWest_ITRT
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
#vachat
A6 I would tell everyone in small groups and a group meeting. I cannot do anything alone. I am one person and I would need support
rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6: Really struggling with the order that I would tell them. At a younger age: parents b4 students--maybe?
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evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6) I'd tell the community what I feel they need to know. Keep the info similar to what is shared with Ss.
#vachat
TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
Q6
#vachat
Be honest with them.
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:47 PM EST
#vachat
A6 This is easier said than done, but stating it in words makes me know...yes I would need support
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:48 PM EST
A6 - Personally, my principal told staff while I was out for surgery. I told Ss when I returned. Sent letter to Ps. Staff after
#vachat
evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:49 PM EST
A6b) The community will be a huge part of my support system, too, so they should know.
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philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:49 PM EST
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A6: for me, hunor/laughter is a huge part of who I am. I've been a big fan of using video in past, I think I would use it again here
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:49 PM EST
A6: Honest and possibly with humor. It is better when out in the open especially w/ the school family.
#vachat
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:49 PM EST
I kind of like that actually. I am not the 1st one telling staff, I would be ok with that.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:50 PM EST
A6: Not sure if I'd be brave enough to blog like you're doing-but I feel it's powerful for ALL who read it. Would try that.
#vachat
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:50 PM EST
the decision to blog it was not an easy one, but it's helping me process too
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In reply to @ErinWest_ITRT
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:50 PM EST
Humor has been so key in talking about this
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In reply to @philgriffins
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:50 PM EST
I wouldn't want rumor and gossip, I would want facts being told.
#vachat
In reply to @chrisp16
jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
#vachat
A6: Colleagues that are friends are deserving of up-front discussions; others up-front discussions when impacts my expected efforts.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:45 PM EST
Q6 It's going to affect more than our students
#vachat
philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
it has to be.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
Q7 - last one. We're turning the tables
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
#vachat
A6 when I had to tell staff something tough years ago...I could not. I had the principal tell when I was out. I hope I could now....
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
You are reaching more lives than you will ever know. So courageous.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:52 PM EST
big motivator. You can't control cancer, but you can control the dialogue
#vachat
In reply to @teresagross625, @chrisp16
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:52 PM EST
a ballsy sense of tumor to be exact ;)
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In reply to @philgriffins
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:52 PM EST
A7: not smothering them or invading their "bonding" time, but letting them know they are available and there for them
#vachat
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:53 PM EST
A7: be there when needed and not to be smothering. Impo to keep the day going as normal as possible.
#vachat
Techy_Margaret
Dec 12 @ 8:53 PM EST
Thanks so much for sharing your story
@Mr_B_Teacher
Sending you hugs!
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:53 PM EST
A7: Throughout this wonderful
#vachat
, we've talked about individualism; each person has different needs, adapt accordingly
#vachat
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
video is a good idea
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In reply to @ErinWest_ITRT
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
A7: little random acts of kindness
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StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
#vachat
A7 Love them, dinner chains, wear an item to think of them continually, cards, visit, help whenever you can!
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
#vachat
A7 I was proud of our school community. They had a chick fil a night. This was heart felt and full of love!
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
A7: offer to help prep, plan, makes copies, gather materials, esp for an extended absence
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Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:54 PM EST
A7 food deliveries have been crucial. Check ins here and there are nice too. Knowing that my kids are taken care of is huge
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TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
#Vachat
@Mr_B_Teacher
is incredibly courageous. Thank you for sharing your story.
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
evsmomgen
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
A7) Pray. Be positive. Be supportive. Pray. Bring meals over. Host a fundraising event. Pray.
#vachat
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
THat's key and let them be able to keep their individualism b/c they're going to feel a loss in the medical sense.
#vachat
In reply to @rggillespie
philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
#vachat
A7:donate (sick) days if needed, messages, time, for me it would be about making sure my own girls continue as normal as possible.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
Thank you all for joining me tonight. I sincerely hope you never have to have this talk, but an important topic to discuss
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jcbjr
Dec 12 @ 8:55 PM EST
#vachat
A7: First and foremost, support colleague; and then understand the impact on facilitating Effective Learning and do what can.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:51 PM EST
Q7 - last one. We're turning the tables
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ErinWest_ITRT
Dec 12 @ 8:56 PM EST
A7: normalcy. Still me regardless of diagnosis. Best way to support is be there, cognizant of cancer- but not hyper focused on it.
#vachat
teresagross625
Dec 12 @ 8:56 PM EST
A sincere thank you to
@Mr_B_Teacher
for being open, honest, inspiring and brave in sharing his story! Huge hugs to you!
#vachat
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:56 PM EST
#vachat
@Mr_B_Teacher
Can you give us ideas how we can help or what does not help but people think it does
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
mrwilliamsworld
Dec 12 @ 8:56 PM EST
#vachat
A7: Just by being there & listening. Ss and the T just need to have ppl they trust to talk to. Sometimes vent/rant.
Mr_B_Teacher
Dec 12 @ 8:57 PM EST
be there for the person. If they want to talk, let let. If not, let them. If you say "I'll do anything," mean it.
#vachat
In reply to @StantonAlana
rggillespie
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:57 PM EST
@Mr_B_Teacher
Thanks for hosting a very personal
#vachat
today. We're all leaving better because of it!
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:57 PM EST
#vachat
I want to thank
@Mr_B_Teacher
,he won't tell you this, but he had some treatment today and wasn't sure this would even happen...
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
chrisp16
Dec 12 @ 8:58 PM EST
You gain and grow so much from your journeys! Keep writing, teaching, laughing and loving.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
StantonAlana
Dec 12 @ 8:58 PM EST
#vachat
I am glad I got to be here. Thank you
@Mr_B_Teacher
for being honest and open.
#redblack
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher
TiawanaG
- Moderator
Dec 12 @ 8:59 PM EST
YES!!
#Be
Strong
#Vachat
loves you.
In reply to @philgriffins, @Mr_B_Teacher
philgriffins
Dec 12 @ 8:59 PM EST
to Hell I am.
#vachat
In reply to @Mr_B_Teacher