#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday May 18, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#atchat
Today we will discuss Accessibility and Global Accessibility Day. Learn more about GAAD here:
https://t.co/rBovYTklSh
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Please Introduce yourself and tell us where you are from.
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Looking forward to learning more…Elisa from Florida
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
I'm Karen from north of Boston, always trying to learn as much as possible to help all students.
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Luis Perez, ISTE Inclusive Learning Network PD Chair, based in Florida.
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
ISTE’s
@InclusiveLN
/
@eyeonaxs
will be tonight’s moderators as we discuss access in ed on eve of Global
#A11y
Awareness Day
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
I’m Marvin, AT guy from Fresno, CA. Great to be back on
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AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Lauren, Special Education Teacher, DC
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@wernedat
@eyeonaxs
@mwilliamsAT
@AACreATivelyGreat
to see you all tonight!
#ATchat
@InclusiveLN
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
We are fortunate to Have
@eyeonaxs
co-moderate our chat tonight!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include the
#atchat
hashtag
EGraniero
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Emily from CT
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vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Chloe from Barrie, ON Masters of Education student here for the first time I can't wait to see what I learn!
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@EGraniero
Hi Emily! did you get my email?
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hallie_ep
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I'm Hallie from Canton,Georgia and I'm a newbie to twitter chat today! I can't wait to learn more about AT!
#atchat
#edit200E
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Thanks for the opportunity,
@KarenJan
!
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@vernerchloe1
@hallie_ep
Welcome - we love to have newbies join us!
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
first question coming up
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1:
#ATchat
What is the relationship between AT and accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
#ATChat
Join
@inclusiveln
on 5/19 at 7pm ET for Tips and Tricks for More Accessible Learning Materials -
https://t.co/mFYZOqRipa
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1a: How do you define
#accessibility
?
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VickiBostonSLP
May 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi
#atchat
I'm Vicki, SLP in Memphis
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
Hi Vicki - how is everything in Tennessee?
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1:
#atchat
A nice definition of
#a11y
from Adobe:
https://t.co/YzdGRoI8Kd
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1:
#ally
is the vision (will + best practices), AT makes it happen with individual learners (tools).
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wernedat
May 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1a: simply— all structures, activities, and places are able to be attended by all people.
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gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
SR,
#PWD
and
#SPED
T from MA jumping into
#atchat
just in time for Q1!
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@wernedat
And we make it so from the start!
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1a - Accessibility - material that can be adapted to be accessed by anyone, no matter their abilities.
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vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1) Learning that is accessible to all students, everyone is included and no one is left behind
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CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
AT means for me that I can participate in what I want to do. And AT has become much broader for me since I became disabled.
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wernedat
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
yes, from the ground up - pun intended
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hallie_ep
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
I'm thinking, AT can make the world, other people, and resources much more accessible for people with disabilities.
#atchat
#edit2000E
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1. AT are the tools we use to make those parts of the world that are not born accessible to become so.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@vernerchloe1
Nice.
#ATchat
https://t.co/nFqo6VNDoz
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A1) Learning that is accessible to all students, everyone is included and no one is left behind
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@KarenJan
it's good, thanks. Grad students are on break & I'm planning an
#augcomm
class for the area SLPs & teachers.
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Accessible learning materials allow AT and other tools to be more efficient, work the way they were intended to.
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Great way to put it.
#atchat
#assistivetech
https://t.co/CtriCdy01B
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1:
#ally
is the vision (will + best practices), AT makes it happen with individual learners (tools).
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:08 PM EDT
#Ally
is not possible without AT
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
I do think it’s important to also understand that nothing will be 100% accessible. There will always be evolving needs. AT can help.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@KarenJan
To me you can't have one without the other. Where they converge = the sweet spot!
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
Same with accommodations and UDL.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
#a11y
is not possible without AT and UDL. don't even try.
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
Very true. The key is to have
#a11y
actively on your radar & actively work towards it.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
@eyeonaxs
How do we put it on every educator's radar?
#ATchat
https://t.co/QxpHcCN5Hd
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
Very true. The key is to have
#a11y
actively on your radar & actively work towards it.
#atchat
hallie_ep
May 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Sorry, but I'm a little behind! What is
#A11y
?
#edit200E
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Teacher education is the key, I think.
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
Well, start by having it go beyond every educator to everyone. It’s a life thing, not a K12 thing.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
#a11y
is used on Twitter for
#accessibility
@hallie_ep
#ATchat
tinamonte
May 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Monte’s Daily Read
https://t.co/eH2WSimTQd
#njed
#edchat
#edtechchat
#ecet2
#GoogleEDU
#ATchat
#mschat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@hallie_ep
hashtag for accessibility.
#ATchat
https://t.co/4FrIRZRnyA
hallie_ep
May 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Sorry, but I'm a little behind! What is
#A11y
?
#edit200E
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@CindyDoc
Agreed. It has to start during formative experiences.
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q2:
#atchat
What is the relationship between accessibility and UDL?
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Make a big difference toward diminishing the post-secondary cliff we currently have.
#atchat
https://t.co/sjjq6P4esg
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
Well, start by having it go beyond every educator to everyone. It’s a life thing, not a K12 thing.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
But it starts with K-12, respect for students needs.
#ATchat
https://t.co/p1nkjT3Ntl
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
Well, start by having it go beyond every educator to everyone. It’s a life thing, not a K12 thing.
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1 -and by showing that it makes things better and easier for everyone - the old school curb cutouts example for moms with strollers
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deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
#atchat
need ALL teacher prep programs to include accessibility course at very least.
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@wernedat
Yup. Universal Design is awesome. Captions are another great example.
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
May 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
no more excuses about not providing an accommodation b/c it's not available "in the real world"
#ATChat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Should the teacher prep programs include accessibility, UDL or AT course? (or all three?)
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mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@KarenJan
But it can’t die there. There needs to be a bigger view. Life after K12. That’s lacking now & that’s a problem.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
It's not happening in K-12 either. I agree, needs to be across the life span.
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A good UDL course should address AT and Accessibility. Can't have UDL without them, IMHO.
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2:
#atchat
Where does
#a11y
fit in with UDL Guidelines - this video by
@DavidRose_CAST
provides insight -
https://t.co/TXO5Ka6uNU
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
The def for AT for me has become much broader since I became disabled. My Skechers with memory foam insoles are AT to me now.
#atchat
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@KarenJan
all 3. I am always shocked at how little this is covered!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
AGREE! but we are preaching to the choir. Needs to go beyond the AT world.
#ATchat
@eyeonaxs
https://t.co/WI3wVVRfa9
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@KarenJan
A good UDL course should address AT and Accessibility. Can't have UDL without them, IMHO.
#ATchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Yes, or inclusion won't happen. But it needs to be more than just a token.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@CindyDoc
Great example. It is about addressing a need, rather than about the specific tool.
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eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
#ATchat
- “A11y is like a blueberry muffin - can’t push the barries in there afterwards”
@cordeliadillon
#udlchat
https://t.co/Dqt2Jmx1Fn
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@AACreATively
@KarenJan
even my (amazing) sped program only spent a DAY on UDL.
#atchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
As you mentioned
@CindyDoc
a convincing argument for accessibility/UDL/AT is when we personally experience barriers.
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 - easier for everything - UDL and
#A11y
should be best friends. but not pushed from us, but bigger than us (just AT folks) ?
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Bingo! That’s exactly what’s happening now.
#atchat
https://t.co/cqrpRXzB3h
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Yes, or inclusion won't happen. But it needs to be more than just a token.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@susiegronseth
@CindyDoc
But we should anticipate variability, rather than just address it when needs arise, right?
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@gallianstone
no way!!! you'd think SPED would spend the MOST time on this!
#attchat
#edit2000E
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Yes, as always, like UDL, must be proactive and embedded.
@eyeonaxs
@susiegronseth
@CindyDoc
#ATchat
https://t.co/BZ2ilfb77l
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@susiegronseth
@CindyDoc
But we should anticipate variability, rather than just address it when needs arise, right?
#ATchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
But if even the sped programs are barely touching it - how do we get the general education programs to do more?
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@AACreATively
@KarenJan
Wow, that's amazing (and not in a good way). We need to change that.
#ATchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
What would a competency for teacher educators look like?
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CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:20 PM EDT
My students experience UDL first hand through me. When I freak out at some new need for AT, they experience it.
#atchat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A2) UDL creates accessibility it is what helps make course material accessible and provides an open learning environment
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Accessibility, UDL and AT should be part of all teacher prep programs due to S variability.
#ATchat
@mwilliamsAT
https://t.co/7k5ygvzNDj
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
But if even the sped programs are barely touching it - how do we get the general education programs to do more?
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Susie, depends on gen ed or sped. I teach both and struggle to meet the demand.
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@gallianstone
It needs to be part of all ed programs. Here’s an idea. Gen ed prog = spec ed prog = ed prog.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@mwilliamsAT
Even with Universal Design, I find that it has become code for "it's for special ed kids"
#sad
#ATchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
I'm thinking: Applies UDL principles in the design of tech-integrated learng exp to accommodate the needs/abilities of all learners.
#atchat
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2: UDL needs to be taught in higher ed in general. Business classes should cover it.
#atchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
I like the way you think. :)
#atchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Also, AT is another way to allow the three principals of UDL to shine through! Some students learn better with AT!
#edit2000E
#atchat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
@cordeliadillon
Thank you for sharing this it is such a great analogy
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Time to reframe the conversation. What can we call it to be inclusive?
#ATchat
@eyeonaxs
@gallianstone
@mwilliamsAT
https://t.co/IxYIrGOGwe
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@gallianstone
@mwilliamsAT
Even with Universal Design, I find that it has become code for "it's for special ed kids"
#sad
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Remember to use
#atchat
hashtag. Next question coming up!
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@vernerchloe1
And similarly, accessibility makes UDL work. Lots of cool options inside the building, but what if you can't get in.
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@gallianstone
If we end “othering,” we can probably get some work done.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q3:
#atchat
What are you doing in your setting to improve digital accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@AACreATively
Engineering too. It's just good design.
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
I'm a student in Education classes, but I'm in a class right now to learn about digital resources in education!
#edit2000E
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Shouting the need from the rooftops. We must reach all learners!
#ATchat
@eyeonaxs
https://t.co/KGzCt6S26C
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q3:
#atchat
What are you doing in your setting to improve digital accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@gallianstone
@mwilliamsAT
How about just inclusive design. Connect it to diversity, all other struggles for equity.
#ATchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Nothing, Luis. My U is pretty behind. Fighting for my own needs.
#atchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@eyeonaxs
@mwilliamsAT
I think the only answer is to not call it anything. Labels always become pejoratives eventually.
#atchat
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3:We have recently be exploring eye gaze as the access method for several students.
#atchat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3) Interesting article on the topic that I read earlier this week
https://t.co/GNg3lnJwuy
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
One of the things I look at is “usability.” I use that as they way to get ppl to look at
#a11y
without stigma.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
I agree.Labels separate students. Let's just reach all learners and accept that as the mission.
#ATchat
@gallianstone
@eyeonaxs
@mwilliamsAT
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@CindyDoc
Been there, done that. All struggles start with one person taking a stand (or sometimes sitting in).
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
May 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Design higher ed classes w/UDL to have the participants see the benefits & then want to teach that way themselves
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
That could work.
#ATchat
@mwilliamsAT
https://t.co/GZkzyNsvfS
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
One of the things I look at is “usability.” I use that as they way to get ppl to look at
#a11y
without stigma.
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3: Read&write for Google, access to Chrome extensions + apps, BYOD, online resources for all students
#ATchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I've been working on delivering my content in multiple ways - video with captions, audio with transcript, handouts with screenshots
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
Personalization is another good way to approach it. That's what we are doing. We are customizing/personalizing for all.
#ATchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3 - I work closely with district instructional materials director to have right language in contract for textbook adoptions
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Begin with an inservice for higher education. So many have no idea. Took me 2 weeks of emails to get a seat myself at graduation!
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
I tried to practice
#a11y
principles when I design books with iBooks Author.
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Hi all. Running late tonight. Looking forward to catching up on the discussion
#ATChat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@nlakusta
BYOD is so key for those students who need their devices to go throughout their day
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 Phase 2 of a pilot student with Snap&Read and uPar; training all others on features of Google like voice type and abbr. expansion
#ATChat
deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3
#atchat
constantly grease all moving parts: SETT. Staff family student environment materials tech. Getting the tool is just the beg.
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3. iPads and project/interest based learning.
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
The ISO def of “usability” gets it all.
https://t.co/ztZ2FNCd7I
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:28 PM EDT
I have found that students with disabilities do a better job of getting higher ed to understand UDL than anything else.
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3 would love other ideas for district level action possibilities we are a part of national AEMITA project upcoming?
#ATChat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3: Trying my hand at accessible infographics by combining blog post/graphic.
https://t.co/BVg7Fi1Xju
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Q4:
#atchat
What are some barriers to helping you improve accessibility?
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@vernerchloe1
yes, not only are they comfortable with device, teachers can also educate them with further use
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
a3: Again, I go to “usability” & show folks how accessible docs improve their usability for all students.
#atchat
https://t.co/u4ho56AeLe
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q3:
#atchat
What are you doing in your setting to improve digital accessibility?
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@mwilliasAT
so true!! everyone should be using this def.
#atchat
#edit2000E
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
I do the same thing, as well as use alt tags, embed interactivity, use words meaningfully
#atchat
https://t.co/0IRbGU0gCS
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I've been working on delivering my content in multiple ways - video with captions, audio with transcript, handouts with screenshots
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4 - Attitudes and culture.
#ATchat
@eyeonaxs
https://t.co/V9EZ4DPog9
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Q4:
#atchat
What are some barriers to helping you improve accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A4: I try to caption everything I do, but it is still very labor intensive. Need to start leveraging AI/voice recognition better.
#ATchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A4: time, people not seeing outside of the “that’s an ESE thing” changing mentality takes time
#ATChat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Luis, I just took a class that integrated info graphics and blog posts! It worked wonderfully and was so explanatory!
#atchat
#edit2000E
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@wernedat
Do we need to reframe it as a civil rights issue?
#ATchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
@_luisfperez
very nice visual! Important info for us to remember #
#ATchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4. Fear (of tech) and those who want things TWWADI
#atchat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4) Getting all the staff at the school evolved, this is not always easy
#atchat
deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4
#atchat
. Taking focus off the individual regardless of ability.
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I think one of the biggest barriers is money. Technology can be expensive!
#atchat
#edit2000E
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
The high cost of AT for people with complex bodies
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@deTechtive1
So many times the burden is on the indiv. yet the system gets a pass, preserves status quo.
#ATchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
maybe - I hate to “threaten with law” I’d rather woo with honey, video of students in action, success stories…
#atchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: I push for live+pre rec webinars to be captioned, for digital access to textbooks w/ GPlay,
@Bookshare
, use of
#RW4GC
w/ GAFE
#atchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
DEFINITELY
@deTechtive1
. That's a huge one.
#atchat
#edit2000E
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Time. Knowing how to make the materials accessible efficiently and effectively.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Such a great way to phrase it - usability
#Atchat
https://t.co/rHftRgEefQ
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
One of the things I look at is “usability.” I use that as they way to get ppl to look at
#a11y
without stigma.
#atchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@AACreATively
And the regulatory barriers in place to getting them!
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
My argument with expense is the expense of attorneys for the person needing the tech. Have used that one on my supt hubby.
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A4: barriers: access to devices when needed, teachers not implementing, students refusing to be 'different'
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@wernedat
I don't mean threaten, sue, but highlight how it is a civil right issue. Leads to higher employment, civic participation.
#ATchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: Bureaucratic barriers exist, lack of large scale awareness - models are needed - so I'm working on them!
#atchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
The constant changing technology in our society is a barrier. As soon as you integrate one thing, another comes along.
#atchat
#edit2000E
The_app_guide
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
FREE 300pg
#edtech
guide + assistive technology
https://t.co/RhJkNvsNmO
#specialedchat
#digcit
#edtechcridge
#atchat
#csk8
#livedchat
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Insurance companies need to cover more of what people need to be able to access their environment.
#Atchat
https://t.co/GTCJ9jxvrB
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@AACreATively
And the regulatory barriers in place to getting them!
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3: Model good accessibility in all products. Demonstrate how to build in
#a11y
Educate! Educate! Educate!
#Atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@susiegronseth
yes, it's a pain working with publishers who don't understand this!
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4 - that's a great point!
#ATchat
@halliepoindex
https://t.co/mffYegwubt
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
The constant changing technology in our society is a barrier. As soon as you integrate one thing, another comes along.
#atchat
#edit2000E
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A4: Honestly, other ppl working towards
#a11y
. We need to stop “McGuyvering" & insist on the right stuff
#atchat
https://t.co/yU2RWBG5X4
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Q4:
#atchat
What are some barriers to helping you improve accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q5:
#atchat
What are your favorite tools for ensuring access to learning materials?
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
No I get that - it just seems that in school system, civil rights becomes basis for due process sadly
#ATChat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Have always heard the "I'll do it later, or I didn't have time" excuse. Have to encourage people to plan from start to include
#a11y
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
I try to use VR for this too. Not always as easy as I would want it to be.
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A5 - VoiceDream Reader!!!!
#ATchat
https://t.co/stjdXwL8gX
https://t.co/mu4NuEY4pG
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q5:
#atchat
What are your favorite tools for ensuring access to learning materials?
AACreATively
May 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Q5: colleagues on QIAT
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
Yessss! How about new tools that make inaccessible docs accessible? Better to make them accessibility from start.
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A4: I understand needing 2 get things done in the moment, but gotta work out of that. Gotta work ahead.
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@The_app_guide
nice! I'll definitely check this out
#ATchat
deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
#atchat
a5. My fav tool / resource starts with each other on the same mission. Got to stay connected And current to provide the best
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
This isn't necessarily a tool for ensuring access, but StoryCorps app is a great way to get people to speak up!
#edit2000E
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@AACreATively
Good point. People, our PLN are often the best resource!
#ATchat
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A5)
https://t.co/Oc1zyyexqb
is great for language lessons
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
How about ppl using existing tools? Styles in Word. Check for A11y tools in word & acrobat. No more picture scans.
#atchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
The accomm. I often make in my courses relate to attention, org., time, etc. I found linking to Google Docs handouts from Bb works.
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A5: Voice dictation Mac/PC/iPad/Android; QIAT; my instructional materials director :); learning ally; natural reader; snap & read
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@mmatp
@eyeonaxs
I like the idea of using VR more, especially now that ALL YouTube videos have this feature
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Don’t worry about how I can do my OCR on my tablet in the moment. Let me do it ahead of time & for all students.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
My favorite design tip - Start with text (as in a script) - makes captioning much easier.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Yes! Proactive and embedded!
#ATchat
@mwilliamsAT
https://t.co/xImMcBFtVX
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Don’t worry about how I can do my OCR on my tablet in the moment. Let me do it ahead of time & for all students.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@nlakusta
@mmatp
But remember not everyone can do VR - may have vestibular/vision issues. Same with AR - need other options!
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
And yes, some of these tools cost money, but you get what you pay for (and you pay for what you get). Free isn’t always free.
#atchat
rtopp
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Help me with
#a11y
I can't get the acronym
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: If a pdf is accessible Reading tools in Adobe Acrobat
#free
#atchat
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Accessibility.
#atchat
https://t.co/nDNig8hQDS
rtopp
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Help me with
#a11y
I can't get the acronym
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
We need to hijack the
#Edtechchat
. Large audience that can impact needed change and promote usability.
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@rtopp
#a11y
=accessibility (first letter, last letter, number of letters, which is 11).
#ATchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: Favs are YouTube for CC, Google Docs and
#RW4GC
for writing, iPad for creating! Smartphone for multimodal comm access
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: I really like Newsela and Tween Tribune for differentiated reading levels
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Agreed. No more preaching to the choir.
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
True, but free is sometimes easier to integrate, and get everyone on board with.
#atchat
#edit2000E
rtopp
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
We learned marry the skill and date the device. RT
@KarenJan
: A4 - that's a great point!
#ATchat
@halliepoindex
https://t.co/s3cCLPqFCU
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
The constant changing technology in our society is a barrier. As soon as you integrate one thing, another comes along.
#atchat
#edit2000E
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@KarenJan
totally agree - but hijack is just such a strong word… evangelize :)
#atchat
rtopp
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
#a11y
#ATchat
thanks. Makes sense
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Yes.
#atchat
https://t.co/rRJmKusrmn
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@wernedat
Do we need to reframe it as a civil rights issue?
#ATchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@mmatp
@eyeonaxs
Quality captions are important for full access - VR good as support but humans need to apply finesse for quality.
#atchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@wernedat
@eyeonaxs
I say you def take it there. There’s nothing to lose. Playing nice has gotten us exactly where we are.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@RhianonElan
@mmatp
Absolutely. The robots have not taken over....yet.
#ATchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I have that whole spreadsheet of chats somewhere but when is the weekly chat for them?
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@RhianonElan
@eyeonaxs
exactly. That's why it isn't always as fast as you might think. Still need to go thru & review/edit
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@wernedat
I think it's Monday nights
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
@wernedat
First the carrot...then the stick. Is it time for a bat?
#ATchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Yes, have a CLEAN final transcript then bring into YouTube and sync and apply timing/formatting adjustments.
#atchat
https://t.co/21allB6d62
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
My favorite design tip - Start with text (as in a script) - makes captioning much easier.
#ATchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
.
@halliepoindex
I tend to adopt free tools b/c simpler to get the class set up on the tools and continue to use after course is over
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@wernedat
I love using Read&write tools to take notes on top of .pdfs or have it read aloud
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
It's Monday's at 8pm!
#atchat
#edit2000E
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
@wernedat
https://t.co/Jb5A1gZg5i
#atchat
;)
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I use free tools as well in my classes, emphasize the way to use, and highlight their similarity to programs that cost $.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@mwilliamsAT
@wernedat
Not that I advocate violence (I went to Quaker school after all). :-)
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5: OCR, Closed-captions, Audio descriptions for big, sweeping answers.
#atchat
https://t.co/OAOJnhVdFE
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q5:
#atchat
What are your favorite tools for ensuring access to learning materials?
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A5) Google slides is also great as it has a screen reader function
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Last question coming up
#ATchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6:
#atchat
What are your favorite resources for learning more about digital accessibility?
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
And, it shows the students that there are tools out there that are completely accessible to them at home for
#free
.
#atchat
#edit2000E
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A6. This chat right here and the knowledgeable people that contribute to it. :)
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
#ATchat
Book Club for May: The Ten-Minute Inservice: 40 Quick Training Sessions that Build Teacher Effectiveness.
https://t.co/QmhVES0vJc
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
TED talks!! There are so many great ones out there about so many great resources to use for this type of thing.
#atchat
#edit2000E
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
#a11y
= accessibility (11 characters between the a and y).
#atchat
https://t.co/jgfcVlYUfH
rtopp
May 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Help me with
#a11y
I can't get the acronym
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A6: One of my favorite resources for learning about accessibility - WebAIM:
https://t.co/nXjRKoDzAj
#ATchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Facebook for my own disability. We have a webpage where we share resources.
#atchat
susiegronseth
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
The Inclusive Learning Network of ISTE!
@InclusiveLN
#atchat
#shamelessplug
:)
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Next week
#Atchat
Book Club discussion. Let your voice be heard. Submit ? for May & pick book for June
https://t.co/YRYTfKwY5u
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
The problem with free is that it’s also limited. Those limitations can be fatal flaws.
#atchat
https://t.co/3yfUx43Q4M
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
True, but free is sometimes easier to integrate, and get everyone on board with.
#atchat
#edit2000E
Ronbrogers
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Hope everyone at the
#atchat
joins us in 10 minutes for the
#UDLchat
It always makes things more exciting.
@KarenJan
@mmatp
@halliepoindex
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@vernerchloe1
And so does Google Docs (support for screen reader). But we need to design docs to follow best practices.
#ATchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A6: for web design compliance
https://t.co/gvJZUqvJDs
#atchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
More fatal can be nothing though, from my perspective as a poor higher education person :).
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6: not fav but ones I look at are Indiegogo, Kickstarter as there are some interesting things being created, check out GlassOuse
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@cindydoc
any resource like that is a great one! Everyone sharing there knowledge is the best resource.
#edit2000E
#atchat
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: colleagues in UDL; CAST; personal research and using my OT brain to problem solve with peers
#atchat
deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6
#atchat
edcamps for all educators with this focus.
gallianstone
May 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Thanks so much everyone. Sorry I was quiet. Tired tonight! Have a great rest of the week!
#atchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A6: Favs are
@CAST_UDL
@perkinsvision
@AccessWGBH
@VL2Science
#WebAIM
, my PLNs (incl some here tonight!), and many more!
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
GlassOuse: the worlds first assistive mouse | Indiegogo
#ATchat
https://t.co/rktZjJNQ2f
vernerchloe1
May 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
That is very true!
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Learn more about making documents/websites/social media more accessible.
@InclusiveLN
webinar 5/19 at 7pm ET.
https://t.co/mFYZOqzHxC
#ATchat
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Now that I can use, Nicole. Thanks. I gave up a mouse a couple of years ago.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
This has been a great conversation!
#ATchat
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A6: Twitter is great. Lots of different communities here who are innovating but not focused on a11y.
#atchat
https://t.co/SecCJ6D7Bz
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6:
#atchat
What are your favorite resources for learning more about digital accessibility?
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@nlakusta
My one issue with Kickstarter and similar sites - sometimes it turns out to be vapor ware. Never makes production.
#ATchat
Ronbrogers
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Webinar on UDL Lesson Planning
https://t.co/U7sIjjpj6s
June 1 3:30-4:00pm E/T
#udlchat
#atchat
pass it on.
https://t.co/hseRTvQVlY
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Quality is impacted. It's the argument I make for why I can't use Google Hangouts for delivering PD.
#atchat
https://t.co/mh7Rgf3XJ9
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
The problem with free is that it’s also limited. Those limitations can be fatal flaws.
#atchat
https://t.co/3yfUx43Q4M
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
True, but free is sometimes easier to integrate, and get everyone on board with.
#atchat
#edit2000E
mwilliamsAT
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A6: Let’s me see what’s new & upcoming then see just what’s going on with the a11y of it.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
#ATchat
tomorrow morning
CindyDoc
May 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I agree with vaporware. Been waiting and waiting for one item.
#atchat
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@RhianonElan
@CAST_UDL
@perkinsvision
@AccessWGBH
@VL2Science
That's quite a lineup!
#ATchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@CindyDoc
you're welcome the inventor had a friend who needed something so Mehmet designed it!
#ATchat
halliepoindex
May 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Also there are so many things that weren't invented to be an
#a11y
resource but totally can be! Take twitter for example!
#atchat
#edit2000E
wernedat
May 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@halliepoindex
second TED Talks - video and or podcasts that you can listen while commuting.
@attipscast
#atchat
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I love all the discussions on here, would love to attend webinars too. Prob is that many aren't captioned, even ones about
#a11y
#atchat
nlakusta
May 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@eyeonaxs
very true? But it gets us talking about needs and hopefully some company will take it on
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you to
@eyeonaxs
for an engaging and information
#ATchat
tonight!
RhianonElan
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
One of my favorite resources is also
@3playmedia
whose I want to commend on always captioning their webinars.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you to
@eyeonaxs
for an engaging and informative
#ATchat
tonight!
mmatp
- Moderator
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Great
#Atchat
tonight. Thx to
@eyeonaxs
for leading the way!
eyeonaxs
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you for your participation in tonight's chat, everyone. I hope you found it helpful.
#ATchat
deTechtive1
May 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
#atchat
@eyeonaxs
well done as always friend!