#IEedchat Archive

#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.

Monday February 12, 2018
10:30 PM EST

  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:30 PM EST
    Welcome to #IEedchat. Tonight we are discussing Makers vs. Takers: Increasing Creativity in the Classroom. We will be using the Q1:A1 format.
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Q0: Introduce yourself and tell us about something you made that you are proud of. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Hello #IEedchat Joseph Williams from @PUHSD Built many things in my day. (Old guy here) But I am the most proud of the life my wife and I built together. Today we celebrate the 25th of the promise ring I gave her.
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Hey tweeps out there. Especially those that make stuff (which is all of you). Join #ieedchat and share some of your thoughts on making #caedchat #edchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Awesome! Congratulations! #IEedchat
    In reply to @jswilliams, @puhsd
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Robert Guzman Tech Coach @CMIPerris In high school I made several pieces of ceramic which I am still very fond of til this day. Support the Arts #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:33 PM EST
    Tom Ashley here - Tech TOSA @PalomaValley in the tech-forward @puhsd. I once made a an amazing large redwood planter box out of leftovers from a construction job. The wood in that planter box was at least 500 years old and I gave it to my mom for Christmas. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Q1 coming up in 1 minute...#IEedchat
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:34 PM EST
    My name is Julianne Roller, I am a student at Chapman University studying education. Somethings I made that I am proud of are my paintings, which I do in my free time. #ieedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Welcome to #IEedchat
    In reply to @JulianneHRoller
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    Q1: What are the benefits you have seen when students produce a product to show their learning? #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A0: Jed, Tech TOSA / math geek @puhsd @HeritageHSPats Made my wife this crochet blanket few years ago. Lots of hours but came together well. #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A1: Deatra Lee, Tech TOSA @puhsd, besides growing tiny humans in my body... I crocheted a blanket for my daughter. #ieedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A0: Jonathan Synnott, Tech TOSA for Perris Union HSD. I'm proud of making/converting a bedroom for my son from a dining area. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A1: Instead of being passive consumers, when students are #makers, creators, designers, etc they are making meaning in a true constructivist manner. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    Judy Eng T when I was in HS I sewed my own clothes, quilts, bridesmaids dresses, uniforms for others #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    Wow! That is beautiful. #ieedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @puhsd, @HeritageHSPats
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1: ownership plain and simple. Making is a much more active experience. Often more so when the product has at least some concrete representation too. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1: Benefits I see are a deeper understanding of what they learned. They remember months later the concept when they have to make something to demonstrate their learning #IEedchat
  • EdCoachSarah Feb 12 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A0: My name is Sarah Guillen, and I spend my weekdays working as a Digital Learning Project Specialist for SBCSS. I’m proud to announce that anytime I MAKE dinner 🥘, I feel pretty accomplished! #IEedchat #dinner
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Students tend to have a great amount of pride in a project that they make from scratch, especially if it lives on in some way on the web in video or some other form. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Ss are very proud of themselves and their confidence soars when classmates tell them the awesome job they did #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A0: Heidi Baynes- SJUSD- Proud of the quilts I have made. They're nothing fancy, but I enjoy the process. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    Totally agree on this one. Used to be afraid of the kitchen, then I worked in multiple and it helped. Now it's fun. #IEedchat
    In reply to @EdCoachSarah
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: When working with kids, I see that they are truly engaged when they are creating something. They are also passionate about the work they have created #ieedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:38 PM EST
    Q2: What are some ways to teach “creativity”? #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A2: In the beginning, I model my creativity to students. Depending on the project I would model how I think, write, design or build creatively. #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A1: Students feel accomplished, have a sense of pride, excited to share with everyone. #ieedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A2: In order to fully have Ss increase critical thinking in Science I always have them create models of what we are learning, this way you get an idea of where they are going and were you need to guide them to #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: Teaching creativity has never been my forte. I try to teach Ss to have an open and critical mind and give them a pathway that they can build on. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: Try Lego Serious Play. https://t.co/NMdVTSSg72 #IEedchat
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A1: pride of ownership hopefully, and it's fun #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A1: students are so proud of their finished work. They have ownership #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: I think you teach creativity by creating opportunities for students to show what they know in fun ways that are interesting to them #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:41 PM EST
    when you say deeper I think stronger, It can /push/ for depth, so long as it's applied learning. I feel like this is a trap some fall into with #MinecraftEDU - it can push for depth w/ guidance. Just putting blocks together ≠ depth #IEedchat #minirant
    In reply to @JSynnott1
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Q3: How can an educator assess creativity? #IEedchat
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A2: I think encouragement of creativity and the arts are crucial, and really allowing students to express themselves and think outside of the box #ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A2: I show lots of samples of previous stuff so they can see how creative past students have gotten and we practice a lot. There are times where my students are doing projects every week for class #IEedchat
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2: agree - I like to Make whatever I ask my Ss to do and love when they show me up #IEedchat
    • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:39 PM EST
      A2: In the beginning, I model my creativity to students. Depending on the project I would model how I think, write, design or build creatively. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2: give options, show some framework, once had student build concept maps for math class, but allowed for and encouraged multiple formats, got some great variety #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A1: Deeper understanding of a topic when students can synthesize information into a finished product. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    Agreed. I think what's being created should demonstrate an understanding of some type of educational principle. For example, my son became in expert in using the redstone to create circuits, deepening his understanding of how electric circuits work. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2: allowing students to stay with a project for some time, get feedback, reflect and work on it some more. #ieedchat
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    I was sharing this last night. We made an aquaponic system last year. It was a success for the students on so many levels. Design. Working with tools. Inclusion, recycling, plants, water. #ieedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A3: You could assess creativity by evaluating how a student communicates ideas or how they combine ideas or reiterate projects. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A3: How can we assess creativity? Originality, beauty, and courage of convictions of the final product come to mind... #IEedchat
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    good idea, just give them opportunities #IEedchat
    • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:41 PM EST
      A2: I think you teach creativity by creating opportunities for students to show what they know in fun ways that are interesting to them #IEedchat
  • alexis_narvaez3 Feb 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    Making lessons interesting is an important part of teaching @JSynnott1 #ieedchat #edfb4338
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A3:Have the Ss explain what they created and tie it to what they are suppose to have learned. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:44 PM EST
    This had great success in creativity b/c 1) content was flexible and accessible 2) students had some basics of general format 3) we celebrated diversity of type #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    Q4: Is there a place for traditional lectures in the classroom? Why or why not? #IEedchat
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A3: When assessing creativity, it is important to show understanding in what they are creating, but to make sure when it is critiqued it is done in a way that doesn't discourage the creative mind #ieedchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Feb 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    7 Effective Habits of Writing the Best College Application Essay https://t.co/EDtWOHuw0P #ieedchat #edchat #edtech #SpeakOut
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A3: I think assessing creativity would have to take in how much effort and originality the student put into his/her work, and did the work showcase learning in an impactful way. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A4: That is an unapologetic “No”. Traditional lectures cause students to be listening objects in the classroom. Students need to be the subject of the learning. They need to see themselves in the learning. #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    Also, it is important for the teacher to know when to take their project away from them when it is just perfect, before they over-do it. lol #IEedchat
    In reply to @JulianneHRoller
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A3: this is the hard one for me, I usually give them all pretty high marks on a project for effort - depending - it shouldn't be a reason to fail #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A3: counter question - is creativity the only part being assessed? (hopefully not) assessment on creativity doesn't require a mark or score, could just be feedback. Mark the content for understanding, comment on creativity instead maybe. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A3: I always look at ability and go with baby steps. If at first a student can only draw stick figures then that’s ok but next project I’ll have them do accessories or something and keep building #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A4:Traditional in the sense that you have to listen to a professor for 50 minutes, no. However, I do see instances in a class when a teacher/guide to clarify can lecture for 5 to 10 min #IEedchat
  • EdCoachSarah Feb 12 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A1: Buy-in and confidence to keep on producing are the ultimate benefits when students (which are teachers in my case) produce a product to show their learning! #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A4: Yes! If I can't be the "sage on the stage" from time to time, I'm hanging it up or going on strike, LOL. Seriously, a great teacher, with solid content knowledge and an ability to frame a concept is a rare and wonderful thing. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A4: I think lectures are outdated and ineffective. If the lecture was prerecorded and a student could glean from it at their own pace and leisure, then there might be a useful application for it #IEedchat
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A4: I would say no. As a college student, it is difficult to learn through traditional lecture. It is nearly impossible to keep students engaged. I have learned the most from classes that have collaboration and activity. #ieedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A4: Lectures may work with story telling. There are places for this... but not when the goal is engaged/empowered learning. Learning is always better when its active, participatory, reciprocal, social. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    Q5:Think of a lesson you taught recently. How could you spice it up with students being required to make something to demonstrate learning? #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    I think you have it right that it is a rare (and wondeful) thing. It is very hard to do right, and even then not all students learn in an auditory fashion #IEedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A3: the final product should demonstrate the learning and Ss should be able to communicate it. #ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4: I say yes there is. There are times where there is just a lot going on in the content so a lecture is important. But I always make sure that the following days students are diving deeper into the subject matter to explore more #IEedchat
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A3: Evidence of creativity: When you model a solution and Ss don't follow and out design you. When a student out-codes you in Scratch or AI2. #ieedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 12 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A4: I don't think we need hour-long lectures to deliver information, but some direct instruction (in small increments of time) is still necessary to teach new concepts. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A5: Taught a parent workshop recently on using Infinite Campus. I could have had them create some type of product to help them remember some of the information, like a fridge magnet with quick steps to remind them on how to access their students info #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A5: Sometimes this product can be a simple twist. Students could publish work to online blog, add commentary about the experience. Hoping to build this out more with @puhsd - student blogging #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
      Q5:Think of a lesson you taught recently. How could you spice it up with students being required to make something to demonstrate learning? #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:51 PM EST
    I like to have them do a grade check on their kids, so that they know how to find the current grades and classes #IEedchat
    In reply to @JSynnott1
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A5: I loved watching how Ms. West spiced up her muscle contraction "stop bridge cycle" lesson in her human body systems class by using the Stop Motion video app. #IEedchat link to app: https://t.co/5jRByrhlOA
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A4: I don't mind listening to an engaging lecture but my Ss don't care for it, smaller chunks of direct instruction are still necessary in my content area #IEedchat
  • alexis_narvaez3 Feb 12 @ 10:52 PM EST
    @BaynesHeidi This is how direct instruction can be implemented effectively #edfb4338 #ieedchat
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:52 PM EST
    Awesome idea. I felt I had my hands full just getting them logged in for the first time, but definitely will be using some type of closing activity in the future that will be meaningful to them #IEedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
    Q6: Some students prefer to be a “taker” and shun creativity. How do we encourage these students to embrace creativity in their learning? #IEedchat
  • EdCoachSarah Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A2: I think giving students some insight to get them started without being too influential, while also allowing them flexibility to add their own creative elements! #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A4: Agree with @JSynnott1, lectures can be recorded and class time can be used to collaborate, create, and apply. #ieedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A6: I refuse to have a class culture where a Ss feels he can just take, he or she has experiences and prior knowledge that can deepen the learning for all in class. Create the culture of sharing, model it and they will create #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A5: we will be going over the election of 1860 soon. And I can probably have students make campaign posters of all four candidates from that election #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Yep, I agree. Simple concept but more difficult to find that perfect balance. Experience matters here. #IEedchat
    • EdCoachSarah Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
      A2: I think giving students some insight to get them started without being too influential, while also allowing them flexibility to add their own creative elements! #IEedchat
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A4: I've had full inclusion classes where I taught for an hour. Most of it was a step by step walk through of the lesson. I scaffolded instructions for Ss that moved on independently. No excuse for not checking work as I trailed behind. Everyone left understanding. #ieedchat
  • JulianneHRoller Feb 12 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A6: I think it starts at a young age. Students often don't think they have the skills to take on creative tasks. It is important to encourage new ideas and creativity so it continues in work as they get older #ieedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Any Final Thoughts on Increasing Creativity in the Classroom? #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Final thoughts on #IEedchat. Knowledge is constructed, not transferred. ~Peter Senge
  • JSynnott1 Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A6: In my experience, these students are often the ones who have straight A's because they excel at traditional school (hear or read info, study it, ace a multiple choice test). Make a creative project part a big part of their grade to push them in this area #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A6: creativity to me might be hard to distinguish here - many often think of divergent thinking, building new with this word - doesn' t have to be. In our context tonight creativity is about the root create, can still have structure and standard to it. #IEedchat
  • judykaylane Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A5: Finished an ERWC Mod - the rest of the week my Ss are creating futuristic civilizations for the next Millenium, they will draw maps,/visuals then present-groups #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
      Q5:Think of a lesson you taught recently. How could you spice it up with students being required to make something to demonstrate learning? #IEedchat
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 12 @ 10:56 PM EST
    Don't forget cooking (for those allowed to do so). #ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Feb 12 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6: I tell my students from day one that we will be creating tons of things in the class and I’ll be hanging up their work to fill the empty spaces in the room #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Feb 12 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A5: last semester taught a few digital citizenship lessons, I want to see our Ss create their own #digcit campaign & set the online behavior/interaction expectations for each other. #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:49 PM EST
      Q5:Think of a lesson you taught recently. How could you spice it up with students being required to make something to demonstrate learning? #IEedchat
  • EdCoachSarah Feb 12 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A3: If it must be assessed then I say assess on the GRIT of the student! #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Feb 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT: Yes - make sure that the students are working harder than the teacher and be sure the depth of knowledge requires creativity. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Feb 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    In other words - you don't have to create the new wheel, or even a better wheel, just at least a well-crafted one, and the process of creating makes you stronger in your skill and understanding. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Feb 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT:You must continuously ask them Q's to assess their knowledge and create a culture of always sharing. You make it the norm in that class and you get kids out of their shells. #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Feb 12 @ 10:58 PM EST
    A6: Tough one. I think everyone has some interest in creating and putting their own spin on something, but need to find that "thing" that appeals to different individuals. The more choices the better. Every activity will not pique the interest of every student. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:53 PM EST
      Q6: Some students prefer to be a “taker” and shun creativity. How do we encourage these students to embrace creativity in their learning? #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Feb 12 @ 10:59 PM EST
    Thanks for joining #IEedchat. See you next week as we discuss traits of being a good leader.