#SAMedchat Archive
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Thursday November 3, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
daleolinger
Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Following
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from Lolo Middle School
kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Thank you for asking me to moderate. I'm Kelly Kinsey AP at Lockwood Schools. Mtda teacher
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome Dale
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello
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! Adrian, Elementary Principal, in Bozeman. Looking forward to tonight's chat!
kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We are talking about walk throughs, observations and evaluation tonight
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome Adrian
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Gordon from Lockwood. Thanks for hosting tonight
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome boss
@gklasna
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daleolinger
Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I do a semi-formal walk through ~monthly. This means something more than a pass through and almost always has written feedback.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Questions will roll out at 7:05
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
We will use Q and A format. Please include the hashtag
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Jul Walker, superintendent, Plevna
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Welcome Jule
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Looking forward to this.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Another eastern mt person on
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Q1: How often do you use informal walkthroughs or observations in your school? What is the purpose of these?
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome Silas. I hope all is well
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jule Walker, superintendent. Plevna
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Very well thank you. I hope all is going well for you and yours
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
We use informal observations weekly to look at alignment to our instructional framework helped set up by
@PrincipalDiff
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I try to do an observation with every teacher every 2 weeks. This keeps me informed of what's happening in our school
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
We look for staff meeting students at door bell ringers and exit slips right now
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1.2: It provides opportunities of how I can support my team... (although right now walkthroughs aren't happening consistently)
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JohnGorton6
Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 I strive for weekly walkabouts but don't always provide feedback.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Q2: How do you track informal observations, or walkthroughs?
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I use informal observations to give teachers feed back and any strategies I might have as they always seem to want that feed back
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
I started from
@eduleadership
about observation and feedback. I started the 21 day challenge from him on observations this yr
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
It varies. Sometimes I pick a theme for the month - SEL, workshop, number talks. Other times I base it on the T's goals
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Observation log on desktop
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@eduleadership
also has
#500c
a challenge for 500 classes a year. Great tips
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I used this as my starting point too last year! Started up the 15 min. walkthroughs last week
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2 we use a google doc form to collect data
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@kinsey80
has developed a google doc to track the walk throughs. I need to use it more.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2. The Google form has great data. I need to look at it more. It gives great ideas on what and where you miss
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: I use our
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tools - calendar, docs, sheets, etc. to manage my observations & walkthroughs
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q3: Is it important to give feedback each time you do an informal observation? Why, or why not
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3. I think it's critical to give feedback based on your goals. Teachers get more out of it
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
My teachers always seem to want feedback but I don't think it is needed every time.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A3: It is imp. to complete the feedback loop every time. I try to meet w the T F2F, leave a note, thank you-something meaningful
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A3 important to provide positive comments on lessons--address concerns. Not always necessary to meet
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
i agree.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q4: Does your staff know what you are observing when you are in their room? Examples?
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
positive is a great start.
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3 Important to be engaged in what is happening in classrooms
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A3 it is good to give feedback. It's important to let teachers know how well they are doing more than just during formal Evans
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I totally agree with the positive comments. Try to leave at least a 3:1 ratio of positives to negatives
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A4 Student engagement, lesson design, CITW
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A4
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. we try to give comments on our instructional framework. greeting kids, bellringer, exit slip, chunking, formative assessment.
AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A4: It varies. I'll observe a theme of the month- Workshop, engagement, SEL, etc. Sometimes I pop in & just observe Ss learning
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q5: How does your current formal evaluation work? What is the format?
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A4 bell ringers, chunking, formative assessment, exit strategies
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT
EPAS
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A5: Our process follows the Danielson Framework. We identify a S & Professional learning goal & meet at least 3 times a year
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A5 Goals and responsibilities at beginning of year, formative, summative
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A5 we use Rocky Mountain Evaluations system based upon EPAS
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A5.2: Ts do a self evaluation and choose a couple of items from our Teaching & Eval standards.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A5 We used epas and now rocky mt evals. The RME is way more efficient for us. We can customize.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
We use Rocky Mountain too
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
love this idea. more ownership I believe.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Q6: Do you get more data or usefulness out of informal observations, or formal evaluations? What would staff say?
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daleolinger
Nov 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
We follow the Danielson framework. Been using variation of it for many years.
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
It's been pretty powerful. Our district and Ts worked together to create the standards - more ownership & meaningful
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I like the teacher voice in the eval.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Q7: Have you used alternative evaluations like self evaluations with questions, or videos? examples?
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A6: Great Q! I think they go hand in hand - like form and sum assessments. informal walkthrough helps guide how we support Ts...
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A6 I think that staff get more out of formal as we take more time to sit down and talk about things.
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christman_don
Nov 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Does anyone evaluate special education differently than regular ed?
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A6.2: ...While Formal Evals help w/ student learning & professional goals.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
interesting question. would like to know more.
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
We use one more T & eval standard related specifically to sped
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Would love to hear more on SPED question
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Q8: What do you do after evaluations to make it meaningful for staff?
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q7-8 came out a little fast. Anyone w alternative eval ideas?
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AdrianAdvinMT
- Moderator
Nov 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A7: We have our Ts self assess prior to the formal eval. I'm intrigued about your video comment
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daleolinger
Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A8-Open offer to visit about the written feedback provided, look for and comment on improvement in the same area next time.
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A7: I did video self assess with formatted checklists at another school. You do one on your own, one with a partner you pick.
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A8: We have a post meeting after the year/eval is done to reflect on their goals. I also ask how I can better support them
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A7 I have used video reflections in the past they work well as a self evaluative tool
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q9: Do you have teacher input on your observations and evaluations?
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A8 I think it's important to follow up on topics discussed in the eval.
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A9: Yes. Our Ts can choose their own pro & S learning goals. If it is a struggling T, admin would add an additional goal to eval
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A9 Ask for input on what we can do better for Ss learning but not on evaluation tool
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Thank you for your participation and thoughts. Have a great November.
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jwalkerplevna
Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@kinsey80
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Thanks for hosting. Great conversation!
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scounts_iii
Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Thank you, you as well
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gklasna
Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Thanks for hosting tonight
@kinsey80
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AdrianAdvinMT
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Nov 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Thank you
@kinsey80
for hosting tonight's
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! Great topic, great convo!
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MTEDLeadership
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Nov 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
What an excellent
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tonight! Thank you for the prep and delivery of a gr8 topic,
@kinsey80
! And thx to all those who joined in!
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kinsey80
Nov 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Please keep the chat going if you have more to add this week.
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