#5thchat Archive

#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!

Tuesday October 2, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #5thchat! Excited to host tonight and can't wait to learn from all of you tonight!! Please introduce yourself and add a GIF about how you feel about Math!
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Shanda Seibel 5th Grade teacher in Andover Ks Pretty awesome day today!! #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Ann from Colorado Springs. I spend my day with 5th graders. #5thchat
  • Gen_Kilpatrick Oct 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Genny from Memphis. Glad to be here! #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi #5thchat! Paul from CO.
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Amanda, 5th grade teacher in CA. Excited for tonight's topic in #5thchat. Here's how i feel about math.
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Terra from Michigan. I work with 4th-6th after school program and partner with teachers on cool projects. First time at #5thchat
  • CalliWrights Oct 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Calli Wright, I work for an education nonprofit. I love math, especially in game or puzzle format #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I have my questions scheduled it may be a little faster than I thought! #5thchat
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    #Hi! I’m Diana and I am an Ed student at Elon University #5thchat
  • CalliWrights Oct 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1 A lot of my partner educators use math talks to get started problem solving! Here's an example: https://t.co/mrNvXArTfN #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: Ask students to create a math word problem that explains their day...(I spent x minutes getting ready, x minutes fighting with sister, etc) #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: I use several different ways to start math class from which one doesn't belong, math talks, @quizizz @GetKahoot all are great ways to start my day #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    So true. And we learn more when it's fun, so I try to incorporate games as much as possible. #5thchat
    • CalliWrights Oct 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
      Hi! I'm Calli Wright, I work for an education nonprofit. I love math, especially in game or puzzle format #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Love having math talks! #5thchat
    In reply to @CalliWrights
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Question 2 Coming up...#5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 Unfortunately, our math time is first thing and we have to get out the door to specials less than an hour later. I flip their math instruction, so everyone is working on their own thing at their own pace. Crunched by time! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    My kids love breakouts even in Math! #5thchat
    In reply to @JunTigTeacher
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    #5thchat I always start math with a 15 minute Number Talk. We all love it. The kids get upset if we can't do it for some reason.
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: Thinking about it, I’m not sure I do start math off with anything exciting. Frequently we come in from lunch and get moving. I’ll be looking at other people’s answers for some ideas to implement... #5thchat
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: I try to do an activity to start off the lesson. I try and make it something hands on/dynamic to get their interest and have them engaged from the beginning. #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A2: have students bring in a picture and create a math story about the picture. Can vary the constraints to differentiate. One might include multiplication, another algebraic expression. #5thchat
  • CalliWrights Oct 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A2 I see our educators using math journals, manipulatives w/open-ended problem solving, spiral review and of course, our visual instructional program, ST Math. #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    #5thchat. I teach the main lesson using Cognitively Guided Instruction. It focuses on problem solving with teacher guidance using appropriate questioning strategies.
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A2: I use @edpuzzle, google classroom, @Seesaw @Flipgrid as a resource. I also love doing would you rather questions! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Question 3 Coming up...#5thchat
  • LYearta Oct 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    I love using @Flipgrid and @BookCreatorApp to engage students in math #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    My students are currenly doing self-paced math. Sometimes I feel math doesn't get a lot of time #5thchat
    In reply to @yenneam
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A2: I also use model drawing for word problems. It makes them visual and much less intimidating. #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A2: I’m using the flipped, self-paced math that @yenneam developed. The kids seem pretty motivated to move at their own speed. There are also some that are motivated by more targeted instruction from me that flipped math allows for #5thchat
  • LYearta Oct 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Making students’ thinking visible with digital tools helps me provide targeted feedback. @Flipgrid and @padlet help in this endeavor #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A2 I create instructional videos using @educreations , and then we do collaborative work on the practice problems. Some groups use manipulatives, some create videos or models of their work. Small groups to fill in gaps in skill understanding. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    This sounds fascinating! What does this look like in your room? #5thchat
    In reply to @JunTigTeacher
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A2: I like the use of stations where students do different types of things in each one and are in control of the pace at which they are learning #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    #5thchat - That works so well for the strugglers. When we unpack a CGI problem, visualization is often the go-to strategy at first.
    In reply to @TerraTarango
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    LOVE, Love this!! #5thchat
    In reply to @yenneam, @educreations
  • CalliWrights Oct 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A3 This is my favorite poster for embracing productive struggle and growth mindset in math! https://t.co/ht1AWJkG4q #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A3 Pretest every unit and allow students to move past what they already know to honor their current knowledge. Multiple attempts at mastery for those who need more instruction before they try again. The power of yet! #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A3: this year I have started the self-paced math with activities for students to work on at their own pace. We talk about being "ahead" doesn't mean they are smart or I am dumb..but that we all learn at our own speed! #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A3: Students are always able to retake their tests until they get a score above 80%. Wrong answers are treated as opportunities and not failures. Teachers edition with answers always available. Mixed degrees of success with this. #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A3: I share some how in the 80s, for me at least, it wasn’t cool for girls to like math and they think that is so ridiculous now. Gets them feeling like they are on a mission to prove that’s not the perception anymore. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    We use the word "yet" all the time! Love letting them relearn but not holding anyone back! #5thchat
    In reply to @yenneam
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    #5thchat - This happens through Number Talks. I take all answers before choosing a student to defend an answer. Sometimes I will purposely pick someone with a wrong answer so we can all see and discuss the mistake. Mistakes are seen as an opportunity for learning.
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Question 4 two parts Coming up...#5thchat
  • MrsMurat Oct 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    And not to mention that you might "get" this concept faster than me, but it might be reversed on the next concept. The smartest person in the room is always the room. #5thchat
    In reply to @mrsseibel5th
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A3: I think it’s important to foster in the classroom the idea that getting things wrong is not a bad thing, but a part of the learning process. Without it, we wouldn’t know where we need help. #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    #5thchat - CGI is a teaching strategy wherein students are asked to solve a word problem using existing skills. The T looks for certain strategies to highlight that will lead to the most efficient strategy. Those kids teach the strategy to the class.
    In reply to @mrsseibel5th
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A4 Self-paced is being able to identify what needs to be learned, find the resources needed, and take ownership of the process, which includes asking help when you need it! I have a student who wants to work through two lessons a day and asked me to help him keep going. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A4a: Self Paced learning allows students to discover how they learn best and gain valuable information about their own learning #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A4a: when students know their learning targets and can take ownership of their journey through those targets by moving at their own pace #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A4b: I started self pace in my math class this year! It is a work in progress but so far I am finding success for my students. Organization is the key! #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Self paced learning is allowing those who don’t need what your teaching, who already have it, to move beyond, and for those who need you’re help the most can get it, in a small enough group to meet their specific needs #5thchat
  • Gen_Kilpatrick Oct 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Q4b- we used it for enrichment with our GT kids.. they loved it #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A4b YES!! I've had many students finish 5th grade math before the end of the year and then get started on 6th grade standards! Flipping allows them to keep moving. #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A4b: one room I’ve used for this is stairs and stars. I make a staircase with progressive learning targets for each step. Then students write the date and evidence of mastery and put a star on each step as they master. Simple graphic motivator. #5thchat
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A4a: It’s when the students learn at the speed they know and are comfortable with learning #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A4b: This is my first year. Self paced was always a 3 years out goal. Decided to jump off the deep end instead. Varying degrees of success, but most of the kids are excited for math time, which is the most important thing to start #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Question 5 coming up #5thchat
  • BeronicaPuhr_1 Oct 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    I love when friends share the creativity/excitement! I'm in the process of showing kids how to make a drawstring bag! #5thchat
    In reply to @MrBaskwill
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A4b: As a college student, I haven’t done this practice, but I do intend to once I’mout in the field #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #5thchat - Yes. I use iReady at the end of our math block to allow for self-paced learning. And I've had Ss in the past work out of higher level texts. Hubby is a Calc teacher, so I have access to all levels.
  • MrBaskwill Oct 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Awesome! That's so cool! How excited are they? #5thchat
    In reply to @BeronicaPuhr_1
  • BeronicaPuhr_1 Oct 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hopefully very enthused! We've just mastered designing on our phone covers! Little by little! #5thchat
    In reply to @MrBaskwill
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    #5thchat - This is really embedded in the CGI process, because there are so many turn and talks, plus mini conferencing. They know they will be responsible for a verbal explanation, no matter what strategy they are sharing.
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A5: Part of my learning has been to let Ss fall flat on their face. For a few of mine, bombing the Unit 1 test was a wake up call that I wasn’t going to rescue them. I’ve already seen great work habit learning from that “failure” which will pay academic dividends #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A5 I have a weekly check in with all students where they identify their mastery level for each skill. They also are responsible for checking their own work against the answer book-I've worked all the steps to the problems. If you got it, keep moving. If not, get help! #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A5: I ask them to connect something they’ve learned this week (in math) to something they’ve learned in another subject or something that interests them. Sometimes the connections are silly, but they have to think about the content and make a unique interpretation #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #5thchat - I love that you allow retakes, too. That's often where the most powerful learning takes place.
    In reply to @MrYennePaul
  • MrsHugginsClass Oct 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hey all I have to jet to get the kiddos settled. I can't wait to look through the feed later! #champforkids #5thchat #shiftthis
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A5: I try to give Ss several outlets to show me their learning. Some like paper and pencial, some like creating, some like talking it out! They love being the "teacher"" on @Flipgrid #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Question 6 coming up #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    #5thchat - Even a silly connection will lead to greater learning, though. And what's silly to someone else might be what that kid needs to learn something.
    In reply to @TerraTarango
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Yes, I allow failure because failure isn’t final. You can always show me that you have learned from your mistakes or ask for help learning from them. #5thChat
    In reply to @JunTigTeacher
  • dpinel18 Oct 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    I like doing Exit Tickets. Students turn them in at the end of the lesson and they express how they are doing and how they are feeling on the math subject we’re currently on. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Thank you for sharing...I pulled up some videos to watch! #5thchat
    In reply to @JunTigTeacher
  • internet4classr Oct 2 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Combining Sentences Quiz. Combine all of those sentences into one effective sentence containing only one independent clause. https://t.co/uf5eQI8Ms6 #edchat #5thchat #6thchat #7thchat #Quiz #engchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A6 One of my favorites is to have them create pattern block creatures that show predictable growth. From their a function table, an equation, and ultimately graphing ordered pairs. #algebrafun #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A6: not exactlya lesson, but an engagement strategy for any lesson is to have the kids do math play by play. One student works out a problem. Another student looks over his/her shoulder and does commentarylike a sports announcer. Third student records it. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Question 7 coming up #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A6: I love doing a breakout or math mystery. I love when Ss can build or apply their math #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    How fun!! I am going to have to try this! My Ss this year would love that! #5thchat
    In reply to @TerraTarango
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    #5thchat - Recently, I taught volume by giving the kids plastic boxes and some Unifix cubes. They had to figure out how many cubes fit, even though they didn't have enough cubes. That challenged them to "invent" the Volume formula. Great problem solving that day.
  • SpanishEagles Oct 2 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A6: just found you guys! I have a student who loves Bentley cars. I told him to find examples of slope on it! Got him thinking real fast! Jumping in from Texas. I teach #spanish #algebra #geometry and #science #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A7: still too many schools not allowing retakes and redos. When students get in a hole, they give up, but that’s exactly when real learning can take place if allowed. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A7: My biggest pet peeve is that we let children think that it is ok to not be a math person! We don't accept when someone can't read! We also need to realize that worksheet after worksheet page is not going to make a math student. #5thchat
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A7: It’s dying, but I still know it exists: Whole group math instruction. Many are bored, some get it and those who need help most checked out when you said “it’s math time” #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Final question of the night coming up! #5thchat
  • JunTigTeacher Oct 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Thanks all! I gtg take my son to Scouts. I'll catch up later. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I know of a few teachers that refuse to switch from whole group instruction...#5thchat
    In reply to @MrYennePaul
  • MrYennePaul Oct 2 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A8: #5thChat
    • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:38 PM EDT
      A6: not exactlya lesson, but an engagement strategy for any lesson is to have the kids do math play by play. One student works out a problem. Another student looks over his/her shoulder and does commentarylike a sports announcer. Third student records it. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A8: CGI information. I am going to read, watch, and learn more #5thchat
  • Gen_Kilpatrick Oct 2 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    a8: #5thchat CGI, sports commentator strategy, "invent" volume formula
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A7 Kids' brains are wired differently than they were. They are digital natives and our system hasn't kept pace. #5thchat
  • TerraTarango Oct 2 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A8: learn more about self-paced math also gonna write a blog based on question 7: math practices that need to die #5thchat
  • yenneam Oct 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A8 Love the play-by-play! #5thchat
  • SpanishEagles Oct 2 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A7: the pacing doesn’t fit everyone. I now work 1to1 in private school after working for 7 in public school. Greatest benefit is pacing 4our Ss. We slow down or speed up. #5thchat
  • SpanishEagles Oct 2 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: continued: Having said that, I always told my former Ss that we learn at different paces, so challenge self a bit more each day to continue growing. #5thchat
  • mrsseibel5th - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Thank you so much for joing me tonight!! #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Oct 2 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Thanks to everyone who participated in this evening's #5thchat - especially @mrsseibel5th for moderating a great chat!!! Please join us next week as @elena_SF_CA moderates: "The #NGSS & Student-Centered Lessons & Practices." Have a great night! #GoCubs