#ditchbook Archive

#DITCHbook was created by Ditch That Textbook author Matt Miller. The chat focuses on innovative teaching ideas and disrupting standard textbook education.

Thursday February 1, 2018
10:00 PM EST

  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #ditchbook Share your name, where you are ditching from, and a favorite saying or quote about the moon.
  • PoppaG77 Feb 1 @ 10:00 PM EST
  • participatechat Feb 1 @ 10:00 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #ditchbook by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/Nb8zYosqXB
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:01 PM EST
    So glad you are joining #ditchbook tonight. I'm Mandi from MO, HS Math teacher.
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Reba from Dallas!! Educational Consultant w/Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. #ditchbook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Stella, KY, 7th Grade Science 👩🏼‍🏫 happy to be here with #ditchbook
  • drmcclard Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Lanc, k-5 principal #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Nice! Glad you are here. #DitchBook
    In reply to @PoppaG77, @A_Dalton13, @AmyAmyorr, @Robertsjess_1, @mmwolford
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Hey, #ditchbook! Happy to be joining you all this evening! Evan Mosier, Tech Integrationist from Davenport, IA.
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    John from STL MO... 3rd grade... Does "Houston, we have a problem" count as a Moon quote? #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:02 PM EST
    Welcome Reba. Glad you are here. #DitchBook
    In reply to @jghfoundation08
  • herrplatt Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Hi #ditchbook this is David from Covina, CA. Jumping in and out tonight
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Rayna from MA #ditchbook "There is no dark side of the moon really. Matter of fact it's all dark."
  • Miss_Lievens Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Happy Thursday, #ditchbook! I’m Abbi! K-6 Reading Interventionist in Davenport, Ia 💛
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Hey Stella. Been doing a lot of reading. :-) #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Joe - MS Science teacher from Valdez, Alaska checking in #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Nice! #DitchBook
    In reply to @drmcclard
  • zonie71 Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Krista from SE Michigan, 5th grade teacher — ditching in and out... grading math unit tests #ditchbook
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Zach from GR, Mich. Work with teachers all over the state and am THRILLED for some great ideas to share! #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:03 PM EST
    Hey Evan! #DitchBook
    In reply to @emosier3
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    My MO peeps! Yay! #DitchBook
    In reply to @hartel30
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    All I can say about the moon is that I saw the Blue Blood Moon transform for myself. It was an incredible view! #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    and yes it does! #DitchBook
    In reply to @hartel30
  • sdtitmas Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Whats up #ditchbook ?! Scott ditching from NJ
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Hey Mandi! #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • herrplatt Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    You’re going to against the Pink Floyd #ditchbook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • HJohnsonOMS Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Hannah, 6th grade ELA teacher from MO. #ditchbook
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Dark because it does not get enough light shed on it! #ditchbook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Looking forward to #ditchbook tonight!
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    Yes!! Haha. It’s slowed down some right now but I have read 7 books in just January! #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
    What up, Scott?! #ditchbook
    In reply to @sdtitmas, @TTmomTT
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:04 PM EST
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Moonshot ideas, what are they? #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    @rlfreedm Rayna and David in the house. #DitchBook
    In reply to @herrplatt, @rlfreedm
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Blue moon of KY keep on shinin #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    I love it! #DitchBook
    In reply to @Miss_Lievens
  • mrbyce Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Matthew from NE Michigan. 4th Grade teacher/aspiring principal. Looking forward to hearing and sharing some awesome ideas! #ditchbook
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Mark, tech coach from Carson City. I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon. #DitchBook
  • SEANJFAHEY Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Hey #ditchbook Sean from Indiana. I’m a 6th grade Math teacher. Ready to shoot for the moon!
  • Sarah_Backus1 Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    “We are going to the moon that is not very far. Man has so much farther to go within himself.” @StephDeLuca16 #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Wecome Joe. #DitchBook
    In reply to @joerobison907
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Then I'll go with that one... because who doesn't like Tom Hanks! #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Wooohoooo!!! Abbi is in the house! Davenport represent!! #ditchbook
    In reply to @Miss_Lievens
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:05 PM EST
    Alex, From Nashville, TN. Might have committed #DitchBook sin this week. Student asked if they could have a book and I gave them the digital book code.
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Q!: What are your moonshot ideas about what students need to learn? #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Welcome Zach. #DitchBook
    In reply to @zripley
  • CharlesEGreer18 Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Hey #ditchbook I'm Charles Greer from Greenville, SC. My favorite song about the moon is CCR's Bad Moon Rising. Classic. #conversechat
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Great song. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Welcome Hannah #DitchBook
    In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
  • HJohnsonOMS Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    A1: With so much content readily available to students online, I think what we teach should focus on how to find, assess, and apply information to a variety of real world situations. I think teaching students 21st century skills and the 4C's is imperative. #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:06 PM EST
    Me too! #DitchBook
    In reply to @JenniferServiss
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:07 PM EST
    A1. Ss need to learn how to think beyond what is in front of them. They need to see the world and know anything is possible and to take risks. I think the process is more important then content and therefore that should be what is learned. #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:07 PM EST
    Glad you are here Matthew. #DitchBook
    In reply to @mrbyce
  • brianrozinsky Feb 1 @ 10:07 PM EST
    Long time, no #ditchbook for me, 'til tonight. Evening, all. I'm Brian. I teach MS students English in CO. Friday in classes, I'll be book talking _The Girl Who Drank the Moon_, _The Moon is Down, & perhaps _Walk Two Moons_.
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:07 PM EST
    I was going to post this same but I’m not from KY. You’re the reel deal. :) #ditchbook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:07 PM EST
    A1: Let kids determine content. In my room, we learn and grow skills. What do YOU want to learn about? (some structure as needed, but NEVER content standards) #DitchBook
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: Students need to learn that they are in charge of their learning. I want to work myself out of a job every year. #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    I agree! #DitchBook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • TheStephenKeys Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    Stephen from KY. MS Band Direcror. "Thats no moon!" Or...Darkside of the moon. #ditchbook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    YES! The layers of peeling I do to get to a self directed learning is exhausting. #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: Ss need to know how to shoot for the moon, literally. They need to know how to take chances, how to think critically, how to work together, how to chase dreams and accomplish https://t.co/TVEQWrzd1w to be compassionate. Without these, content is worthless. #ditchbook
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: I think that Ss need to be empowered to not only make their own decisions, but should have some flexibility in the content they produce. Allow Ss to be creative and showcase their knowledge. #ditchbook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    You have great taste! :) #ditchbook
    In reply to @MKuniya
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    I just did this for my states of matter unit and it has been so empowering #DitchBook
    In reply to @zripley
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: I heard Google's Astro Teller speak on this a few years back. They don't always know the outcome and application of something. Listen to everyone, take all input. #ditchbook
  • Miss_Lievens Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    A1: Nothing in particular... Rather, letting Ss decide what they want to learn and how they want to learn it! Wouldn’t that be a dream?! Imagine the engagement💜 #ditchbook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    Sean from Orland Pk IL Missing my #ditchbook crew.
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:08 PM EST
    Playing devils advocate. Will there be some skills they need that they never choose? #DitchBook
    In reply to @zripley
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    So should their Ts and As #DitchBook
    In reply to @emosier3
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1: Why don't we let the industries determine the content, as they probably SHOULD already? You want to be a physicist? Learn this stuff... and so on. That is TRUE education. #DitchBook
  • mrbyce Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1: Soft (essential) skills! Problem solving, collaboration, creativity, communication, perseverance, critical thinking, etc #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    I agree. I want students the be learners. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1: Student need 2 learn concepts that will lead them to solve real life work, career, and personal problems. And lead them to b lifelong learners. #ditchbook
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1. Ss need to learn real world value - Whether we like it or not, most Ss learning is done outside of school. How do we bring that same opportunity to school? #DitchBook
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1 I want my kids to learn how to figure out the answer & solve the problem, rather than regurgitate facts. #ditchbook
  • herrplatt Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
    A1: fully cross curricular large scale passion projects. Something that addresses the connections between math and social science specifically. #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:10 PM EST
    Well said Stella. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • sdtitmas Feb 1 @ 10:10 PM EST
    A1 Students need to learn to love learning! Our lives evolve and the content we "need" to know changes, but the necessity of learning does not. #ditchbook
  • drmcclard Feb 1 @ 10:10 PM EST
    A1 produce answers to complex problems and make a difference. Similar to what @DonWettrick’s class do. #DitchBook
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:10 PM EST
    And probably pushing a little further to say that SOME flexibility is not enough. We think too narrowly about the role of education... and the resources that can support! #ditchbook
    In reply to @emosier3
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:10 PM EST
    This. Is. Vital! Find the connections. It can be done. It should be done! #ditchbook
    • herrplatt Feb 1 @ 10:09 PM EST
      A1: fully cross curricular large scale passion projects. Something that addresses the connections between math and social science specifically. #ditchbook
      In reply to @TTmomTT
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
    Question 2 is up in one minute. #DitchBook
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
    A1: Creative outlets, problem-solving through questions, empathy, appreciate poetry…I could go on. #DitchBook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
    A1. Students need to learn they are NOT defined by a standardized testing. #ditchbook
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
    A1: problem solvers, outcast, and kids with ambition that's what i wanna see #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
    Be seekers of knowledge not vomiters of knowledge. (Well that's a gross picture but you get the idea.) #DitchBook
    In reply to @MsMensing
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
    A1: Ss need to learn to by doing. I still remember tearing down bikes and lawnmowers as a kid. Shops are gone. I also remember creating my own graphics for reports. What will Ss remember 45 years from today? #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
    Q2: What are your moonshot ideas about grading? #DitchBook
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
    Good point, and I agree with you. But, there has to be some rigor https://t.co/clTNeYlXI6's finding that balance. #ditchbook
    In reply to @zripley
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
    Oh my goodness, yes. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
    Yes! Students need to know that there’s different types of creativity! Just because they are not great at drawing doesn’t mean they aren’t creative. #ditchbook
    • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:11 PM EST
      A1: Creative outlets, problem-solving through questions, empathy, appreciate poetry…I could go on. #DitchBook
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    I hate that word, Rigor. I think instead of rigor we can do a one letter hack and use Vigor. #DitchBook
    In reply to @emosier3, @zripley
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    I love your moonshot idea. I do think we have Ss learn things they will never need or use. #DitchBook
    In reply to @zripley
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    This may be my new mantra... #DitchBook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • quilterliz Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    Grades matter to some Ss, others not so much. #ditchbook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    A1: Ss need to learn how to conduct a discussion where everyone has a voice & topics are debated - not just disputed. #DitchBook
  • SEANJFAHEY Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    A1 I can’t stand when we require Ss to learn procedural stuff. The need more time to explore & to be able to develop an understanding how they learn. Doing the graphic organizer notes a certain way might be inhibiting understanding. #ditchbook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:13 PM EST
    As @peterhreynolds says we are all creative. Our drawings might not be perfect but they are ishfully done. #ditchbook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard, @peterhreynolds
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    I don't make the terms, Alex, I just follow them! :-) I love that thinking, though. I've never heard it described as such, but it definitely fits! #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @zripley
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    And to do this we need less "stuff" for them to learn. Fewer "have tos" #DitchBook
    In reply to @SEANJFAHEY
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    A2: Before you place a grade on something, ask yourself why am I grading this...what relevance does this have on the ss #growthmindset and where can we move from here. #ditchbook
  • drmcclard Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    A2 gradeless- no letters, numbers, symbols. Feedback to learn. Ss Learning bc they care. Can inform parents of progress of learning by presenting projects and updating using social media. #DitchBook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    LOL. Forgot to tag. Thanks @hmarrs24 #DitchBook
    • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:12 PM EST
      A1: I'm here! For Ss to be able to apply whatever the skill/standard is to anything they are given. Ss who can think can do anything.
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:14 PM EST
    A2: No grades. Ever. Stamp of achievement (badges, anyone?) showing that I fulfilled X experience. Scores are irrelevant. I either get it or don't (super subjective, but that is also the strength of the system!) #DitchBook
  • HJohnsonOMS Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A2: Ditch grading. Granted, it's important to assess, provide feedback, and communicate progress. Ts should provide Ss with info about where they are & what needs to be done to master a skill. Putting a score on the page does nothing in my opinion to help Ss learn. #ditchbook
  • AssignmentHelpN Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    7 Effective Habits of Writing the Best College Application Essay https://t.co/EDtWOHuw0P #ditchbook #moedchat
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    I'll be looking for a link to the Rigor article someone shared w/ me after I made the same comment. Rigor doesn't need to mean rigid & have a negative connotation. #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @emosier3, @zripley
  • mrbyce Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A2: No more letter grades. Holding meaningful conversations with students about goal setting and the processes of their thinking/learning would be much more valuable #ditchbook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    Ha. Oops. #DitchBook
    In reply to @hmarrs24
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    Agreed. We’re all jagged in different ways. Todd Rose’s The End of Average confirms this. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A2: Get rid of the red pen! #ditchbook
  • CharlesEGreer18 Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A1: Students need to be given the tools to research, solve problems, and express their ideas in multiple ways. They shouldn't be relegated to performing specific tasks in order to get a "good grade". #DitchBook #conversechat
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A2. Grading goes away. Simple as that. #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    Should they matter? If not, what would this look like? Moonshot here... #DitchBook
    In reply to @quilterliz
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:15 PM EST
    A2: I know I tweeted this earlier and I’m being repetitive… Feedback > Grades. Grades kill growth. It gives students a closed mindset! — “My grade’s on there, I suck, I can’t do it, I won’t fix it.” #ditchbook
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    SEAN!!!! YOU ARE HERE!!!! SO awesome to "see" you this evening!! How are things?! #ditchbook
    In reply to @polonerd, @Coachadamspe, @zripley
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2. stop #DitchBook
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    #DitchGrades, Going to try to do grade conferences this semester with some of my classes. Parents need to be educated on the value of grades #DitchBook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Clear, precise and to the point :) #ditchbook
    In reply to @joerobison907
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2 Focus on the tenacity, the hard work and the LEARNING. If you are working hard and learning lots, does the grade matter? #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Do we need to report progress? If so how does it look? #DitchBook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • PoppaG77 Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    Q1: I teach bio and Earth sciences. I am less concerned with content and want students to gain a love of science and an appreciation of the process that we use to understand the universe. Facts are forgotten, Wonder is forever. :) #ditchbook
  • Miss_Lievens Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2: Merit-based grading! Having Ss earn “badges” based on what they’re working toward so all Ss may not be working toward the same goal #ditchbook
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2: One size fits all should not be the grading process. #ditchbook
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2: Self graded... by that not meaning Ss assign letter or number but they are aware and can communicate how they are learning/where they are in convo with T #ditchbook
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:16 PM EST
    A2: Student learning can’t be fully captured in a spreadsheet. If possible, bring them in on the grading. #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    Question three is shooting your way in one minute. #DitchBook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    Sending you all of the virtual high fives, @jghfoundation08 #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    What we think they mean vs. what it really means. I have this discussion with Ss all the time. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe
  • DayCatherineM Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    I agree. I really believe grades promote a fixed mindset. When I was in high school, I got "B" tracked. They held me at a particular standard and no higher. Just think if they held higher expectations for me #ditchbook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • MrsSJDonovan Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A2: feedback-rich classrooms; assessment as observation. Here's what I notice.#ditchbook
  • DayCatherineM Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    Hi. Catherine from PA. Joining the party late #ditchbook
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    A2: I'd like grades to reflect my ability to teach a student. The Ss & We keep at it until they get the 'A'. Not a judgement on either of us but simply a marker of competence. You don't care if a surgeon get's an A, you want it done right. #ditchbook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:17 PM EST
    Here it is. It also includes the word Grit - another favorite word of mine #sarcasm #ditchbook https://t.co/Spovh8avIP
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @emosier3, @zripley
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    Q3: What are your moonshot ideas about classroom and school space? #DitchBook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    A2: Moonshot idea for grading: Ss demonstrate mastery or keep trying until they do. The value is in the end product, not the worksheet or chapter review questions. #DitchBook
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    A2: I'd like grades to reflect my ability to teach a student. The Ss & I keep at it until they get the 'A'. Not a judgement on either of us but simply a marker of competence. You don't care if a surgeon get's an A, you want it done right. #ditchbook
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    Like grits?! #ditchbook
    In reply to @polonerd, @Coachadamspe, @zripley
  • sdtitmas Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    A2 I think we need to worry less about grading and more about feedback. Providing feedback as students work is so much more helpful. #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    A3: The students should own the space. Let them decorate the room, give them seating options, let them think! Build a positive rapport and play good music. #ditchbook
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    The problem with grading, as we now know it, is that no one knows what you are measuring anymore. Mastery? Ability? Homelife? Responsibility? Character? Memorization? #ditchbook #MOedchat
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:18 PM EST
    I believe progress does need to be reported and worked on with the Ss. How do they show growth- Ss noticed their reading letters were more about their thinking and using the strategies vs. regurgitating text and books they were reading were getting more challenging #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • SEANJFAHEY Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    A2 Ss have to know where their grade comes from. WHAT THEY LEARN! Maybe even how they grow! Ss need to develop skills for self reflection & more #meta For too many Ss its a games of pts. #ditchbook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    Evan! Things are good. Working on my admin degree. I'll be 1/2 way done this summer. #ditchbook
    In reply to @emosier3, @Coachadamspe, @zripley
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    Sadly for their Ps too so how do we shift that culture? #ditchbook
    In reply to @SEANJFAHEY
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    And replace it with anecdotal evidence, student reflections, and…what else? #DitchBook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    Whenever I chat with former students many years later, I always ask them what they remember from my class. What will students remember 45 years from today is a great question. #ditchbook
    In reply to @HowardKiyuna
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:19 PM EST
    I think why I don't like it is because when other teachers here "We Need more Rigor" I think they think it just means MORE. They hear they are not rigorous enough and then they assign 2 hrs of HW a night and feel good about themselves #DitchBook
    In reply to @emosier3, @zripley
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:20 PM EST
    YES! And then you have teachers who do not want to gamify their classes because it creates “competition” but those same teachers are all for giving grades? Um. What’s wrong with that picture? #ditchbook
    In reply to @drmcclard, @DayCatherineM
  • Miss_Lievens Feb 1 @ 10:20 PM EST
    A3: More open spaces... lots of windows and outdoor classrooms!!! Having specific rooms based more on skills/common goals rather than age #ditchbook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:20 PM EST
    A3: Flexible seating in my HS classroom has won my heart. Will be moving out the final desks tomorrow. Flexible scheduling is next. A S should be allowed to take a course at whatever time.There are ways to work around current scheduling and make it a better fit for Ss. #DitchBook
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:20 PM EST
    A3: It has to be a student-centered developed environment that leads to collaboration, independence, and creativity. Clustered desks, large spaces for projects, etc. #ditchbook
  • emosier3 Feb 1 @ 10:20 PM EST
    Oh, wow! That's really well stated. Perhaps we could then interest them in a copy of @jmattmiller's #DitchHW to hopefully change their thinking! #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @zripley, @jmattmiller
  • HJohnsonOMS Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A3: I wish they were more transparent & connected to the real world outside of 4 walls. I wish classrooms were flexible, fluid spaces where Ss collaborate & communicate w/ others on real problems. Having a variety of learning spaces: diff. sizes, locations, resources. #ditchbook
  • CharlesEGreer18 Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A2: As a special educator, I will be more interested in gathering data as a student works toward an IEP goal. Finding a system that will help me easily organize data for analysis would be incredibly helpful. #DitchBook #conversechat
  • mrbyce Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A3: Fluidity and open learning spaces, rather than stagnant classrooms.#ditchbook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A3. That the four walls are removed and Ss do not feel like the classroom is the only place of learning #ditchbook They need to see they can connect to authors, artists, scientists, etc. BC they are those things too!
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    It can be when edtech is involved. :) #ditchbook
    In reply to @HJohnsonOMS
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    A3 flex seating, moonshot idea #ditchbook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
    Flexible seating is key. It shouldn't look the same every day because every day doesn't look the same. #DitchBook
    In reply to @SteinbrinkLaura
  • sdtitmas Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A3 Teachers should be flexible with their classroom spaces. If students are engaged, I don't care if they sit under their desk, in my chair, or stand somewhere else they're comfortable. #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A3: Let's go all the way to the moon: no classrooms, no schools. Localized centers with resources, but all learning experiences determined by those providing experience. Anywhere. Anytime. Digital/virtual, local/geographical. Class like we do work. #DitchBook
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    What's new in your world? #ditchbook
    In reply to @emosier3, @Coachadamspe, @zripley
  • SEANJFAHEY Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    IDK. The 24hr access to grades doesn’t help. My HA Ss struggled w/ 1st assign after returning from break. Entered the grade, was immediately flooded with requesta for extra credit by Ss. Told them no & opportunities will come to improve #ditchbook
    In reply to @rlfreedm
  • herrplatt Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A3: It’s got to be flexible and allow for dynamic daily changes in class and individual needs. Flex seating, flex desks (sit or stand) I’d love to see spaces move this way #ditchbook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    A3: Space to attempt/try/fail and resources always at the ready for whatever idea or plan takes shape. I think the space matters less than the experiences provided... so the classroom needs to be resource and opportunity rich #ditchbook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:22 PM EST
    Right! I let Ss move things around and sit however they feel. Working fairly well so far! Began this January 3rd of this year! #DitchBook
    In reply to @polonerd
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:23 PM EST
    Question 4 is on the launchpad. #DitchBook
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:23 PM EST
    Love this! How do you facilitate this? Do you give them a budget? Rearrange furniture? Pick your own seat? #ditchbook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:23 PM EST
    Absolutely! Create a global learning environment. My students had Brazilian penpals and it enhanced their writing, reading, research, and citizenship skills. #ditchbook
    • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:21 PM EST
      A3. That the four walls are removed and Ss do not feel like the classroom is the only place of learning #ditchbook They need to see they can connect to authors, artists, scientists, etc. BC they are those things too!
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:23 PM EST
    A3. I genuinely believe most learning takes place outside of school. Compare what you learned in school to what you learned when you could pursue what you were interested in. We have to bridge that divide #ditchbook
  • PoppaG77 Feb 1 @ 10:23 PM EST
    A2: Grades, like rank, are good in theory but don't equate to much. Being #1 doesn't ensure you'll be successful, being #50 doesn't mean you won't get a job. I have plenty who can get an "A" but have no real understanding. I'd move away from grades if I could. #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Q4: What are your moonshot ideas about homework and demonstration of knowledge? #DitchBook
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    A3: VR classroom, moonshot idea #DitchBook
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Or find ways to bolster or support that type of "outside" learning so they aren't separate entities??? #ditchbook
    In reply to @joerobison907
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    A3: moved to tables this year and allows for more open and free classrooms. Want to get office chairs next. Want students to feel that they are trusted and respected like any professional. #DitchBook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    The fact that we have to report so often. I love the idea of a final report only so growth an happen throughout. #DitchBook
    In reply to @SEANJFAHEY, @rlfreedm
  • VirginiaFisch11 Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    Hang on to your hats! The sea may be rough in the winds of change, but it will be worth it in the long run! #tlap #DitchBook #KidsDeserveIt This is the start of something BIG!
    In reply to @dougowens, @burgessdave
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:24 PM EST
    I have two fit desks (Thanks @donorschoose), 10 yoga balls ( $5 each from @flivebelow), 3 yoga mats, floor 2 stools, and a standing desk. Sit where you feel comfy! #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @DonorsChoose
  • mrsrobertsed Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    Jumping in...A3: Flexible seating! Also, make the spaces feel like home. We spend so much time there, we ALL need to feel at home - teachers too! #ditchbook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    A4. My Ss do discovery quests each month (think genius hour but discovering a concept of interest and teach the class), blog every other week on their choice, read what they want and we are pen pals about what they are reading- Choice and voice! #ditchbook
  • drmcclard Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    A3 each piece of the space serves a purpose. Like @ideaguy42 says in @SpaceTheBook, let Ss be involved in the creation of the space. The selections for the furniture m. #DitchBook
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    Q4: homework: spend time with your family! Moonshot idea #DitchBook
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    I love that! It's always the little things. I fondly remember creating a 3D place setting in 2nd grade, learning about the food groups. #DitchBook
    In reply to @HowardKiyuna
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    I agree completely. On the spot feedback and students learning to take action on the feedback. #DitchBook
    In reply to @sdtitmas, @TTmomTT
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:25 PM EST
    Oh we do that well! #ditchbook I am lucky where I live. We can hang with them or bring them in too. We have options!
    In reply to @zripley
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4: This is my fav part! HW is irrelevant (here is what we will do and when we will need to be done); show your knowledge is whatever we decide together that makes the most sense and achieves our goal (S and T collab, S and S collab) #DitchBook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4: I think homework kills the love of learning. #ditchbook
  • brianrozinsky Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4 Too humble to qualify as moonshot, yet menus & choice boards offer astronomical variety when it comes to demonstrating knowledge or skills. #ditchbook
  • hartel30 Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4: Homework should be meaningful and in a form that makes sense for the S. They need freedom to choose what they want/need to work on and have Tchr/Parent support of their plans #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    You are exactly correct about this. #DitchBook
    In reply to @PoppaG77
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4: Homework is not traditional. Ss can opt to work on their passions after school ends; passions that are encouraged in school. Ss work during school w/T guidance and do home things at home. ;) #DitchBook
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    @TTmomTT you are a rock star! Awesome job tonight #ditchbook
  • HowardKiyuna Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3: My moonshot is a virtual class. Whiteboard, Vid chat. Shortcuts, GDrive. Sort of like Open Sankore but with all the Google stuff build in. I've seen this type of tech work with my Ss who have learning differences. Location and setting won't matter. #ditchbook
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4 No, no, a million times NO! What state is trying to legally require homework? I'm never moving there! #DitchBook
  • jghfoundation08 Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A4: We have 2 face it Parents want it to feel secure, BUT as educators...we can create meaningful homework. Utilized the flipped classroom model and utilize home for intro. of concepts w/ parents learning too #ditchbook
  • SEANJFAHEY Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3 this would probably work@best for MS/HS but... M, W, F school days. T & TH elearning days. Ts still report to school work M-F & available on elearning days to assist if needed in person or digitally. #ditchbook
  • CharlesEGreer18 Feb 1 @ 10:26 PM EST
    A3: I feel like both I and the students need to be moving around the classroom as much as possible. I don't want to disrupt their learning with too much movement but, at the same time, I don't want the students to feel stuck in their seats. #DitchBook #conversechat
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    Going to see Jimmy in Nashville I think. Gotta get that registration done. https://t.co/iWoQ82BK2P #DitchBook
    In reply to @emosier3, @Coachadamspe, @zripley, @casas_jimmy
  • MKuniya Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    To start, grades should reflect learning, mastery. Extra credit should go away completely. #DitchBook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4. Check this #homework policy out https://t.co/w4w4drDCRh I love the implementation guidelines for Ts. #ditchbook
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    Thanks. Stick around for bonus questions. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard
  • drmcclard Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4 my moonshot would be that Ts are so effective they wouldn’t feel the need to push HW. Hopefully, they read #ditchhw and think about meaningful ways to use class time. #DitchBook #jr2proud
  • Stella_Pollard Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    It took me about 2 months to get funded. Sonic Drive-In paid for most of my project! I have eaten so many conies since then :) #ditchbook
    In reply to @Coachadamspe, @DonorsChoose
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4: HW should be optional or extensions of learning. We get the students for 8 hours of a day. Let them have their own time to be with family and explore their own passions #DitchBook
  • mrsrobertsed Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4: DITCH THAT HOMEWORK!!! In-class formative assessments and give students choice #ditchbook
  • rlfreedm Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    Currently 5th! But I would do it with 3rd and 4th graders with some different directions and expectations. What do you teach? #ditchbook
    In reply to @Sarah_Backus1
  • JenniferServiss Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4: there is no research that states that homework generates student achievement to increase #DitchBook
  • joerobison907 Feb 1 @ 10:27 PM EST
    A4. the nature of homework is to be counterproductive. The concept of doing more of what is boring you in school, at home, is ridiculous. When an environment is created where Ss are curious and enjoy the process of learning, h/w happens naturally and is more effective #DitchBook
  • MsMensing Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A4 I have learned a ton from @alicekeeler about homework. Just say no! Take back family time! #DitchBook
  • zripley Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A1-4 moonshot thought: I don't think we are stretching enough. If we really could do anything, are we sure we still want 25 Ss about the same age learning the same kinds of things at the same time and place with structured scoring/reporting? There must be better way. #DitchBook
  • SteinbrinkLaura Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    So glad you did! #DitchBook is one of my fav and one of my first chats! Love it and this group!
    In reply to @hmarrs24
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    Come on sonic, you know you want to donate for my magnetic whiteboard. #DitchBook
    In reply to @Stella_Pollard, @DonorsChoose
  • MissLearyOBPS Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A3: Get Ss out of the classroom as much as possible, and bring as much of the world into the classroom as you can! #DitchBook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • 47_matthew Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A2 Give no grades and only feedback. I know that is how I am assessed in my job, why should students have it differently? #DitchBook
    In reply to @TTmomTT
  • polonerd Feb 1 @ 10:28 PM EST
    A4: Homework needs to be relevant & necessary to support learning and/or take Ss further. I only give HW once a week or so & it's never graded - only practice. #DitchBook
  • hmarrs24 Feb 1 @ 10:29 PM EST
    A4: I offer my Ss a HW menu including “eat dinner with your family” and “play (video games don’t count😉). Side missions are also great! #DitchBook
  • Coachadamspe Feb 1 @ 10:29 PM EST
    Wow thanks for sharing this. Had no idea this was going to be in Nashville. Might have to try to go. Would love to see Jimmy Speak. #DitchBook
    In reply to @polonerd, @emosier3, @zripley, @casas_jimmy
  • TTmomTT - Moderator Feb 1 @ 10:30 PM EST
    That's the end of the regular chat but stick around, we have some bonus questions. #ditchbook