#ALedchat Archive

#ALedchat is a weekly chat on Twitter about education topics. It is held each Monday from 9-10pmCST. While the discussion on #ALedchat continues on Twitter well beyond our weekly one-hour chat session, this platform affords us the opportunity to extend, expand and share the conversation with an even greater audience. Educators from across the state of Alabama, and the world, can come here to find encouragement, support, resources, professional growth opportunities and advice, while providing the same to their colleagues.

Monday October 1, 2018
10:00 PM EDT

  • MEMSPAchat Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat on Thursday at 8pm EST @mkiser2 #ALedchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #ALedchat! Tonight’s chat is focused on John Hattie’s research on Visible Learning. We will be looking at mindframes for educators. There are 10 mindframes, but tonight we will look at the first 5! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do.
  • MEMSPAchat Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Come join #MEMSPAchat - a leading ed chat on Thursday at 8pm EST @Jennifer_Hogan #ALedchat Join the leading, learning & collaboration!
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Jackie Flowers, Director of Instruction & Professional Learning, Florence City Schools #FCSLearn and co-moderator for #ALEdChat. Welcome and we are so glad you are here tonight!
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Tonight’s chat is designed to help us think about our practices so that we can give every student what he/she deserves...a GREAT teacher! We are always excited to learn from you! #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Holly Sutherland, Superintendent of Haleyville City, AL. Co-founder of this chat. Welcome all. We love to learn with you! #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Hi all! Welcome to #aledchat ! I am Laura Tate and I am an AP in Homewood, AL!
  • Heath_M_Harmon Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Heath Harmon, Principal, Oxford High School #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Yay!!! Welcome Dr. Sutherland!!!! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! #ALedchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      Hi all! Welcome to #aledchat ! I am Laura Tate and I am an AP in Homewood, AL!
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    So glad to be here tonight! I'm Justin-- middle school principal in Pelham, Alabama at @PelhamParkMS #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
      Welcome to #ALedchat! Tonight’s chat is focused on John Hattie’s research on Visible Learning. We will be looking at mindframes for educators. There are 10 mindframes, but tonight we will look at the first 5! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do.
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! #aledchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Blake Harvard, AP Psych teacher and blogger, James Clemens HS, Madison, AL https://t.co/EJp11sZu1q #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    The format of the chat is Q1, Q2, Q3…..with corresponding answers A1, A2, A3, etc. Be SURE to use the hashtag #ALedchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Christy Bice, Principal at Haleyville Elementary and a co-moderator for #aledchat. Looking forward to learning with you all tonight.
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome back Heath! #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Excellent! Welcome!!! #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      So glad to be here tonight! I'm Justin-- middle school principal in Pelham, Alabama at @PelhamParkMS #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
        Welcome to #ALedchat! Tonight’s chat is focused on John Hattie’s research on Visible Learning. We will be looking at mindframes for educators. There are 10 mindframes, but tonight we will look at the first 5! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do.
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome Heath! #ALEdChat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome Justin! #ALedchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      So glad to be here tonight! I'm Justin-- middle school principal in Pelham, Alabama at @PelhamParkMS #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
        Welcome to #ALedchat! Tonight’s chat is focused on John Hattie’s research on Visible Learning. We will be looking at mindframes for educators. There are 10 mindframes, but tonight we will look at the first 5! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do.
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Glad you are here! #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Pumped to be here tonight! Excited for the topic! #aledchat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome back Blake! #ALedchat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    AJ Buckner from Jackson County. Ready to learn #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Christy! #ALedchat
    • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
      Christy Bice, Principal at Haleyville Elementary and a co-moderator for #aledchat. Looking forward to learning with you all tonight.
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Welcome AJ! Glad you are here! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Anthony! #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hi Christy! #aledchat
    • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
      Christy Bice, Principal at Haleyville Elementary and a co-moderator for #aledchat. Looking forward to learning with you all tonight.
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Justin! #ALEdChat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:01 PM EDT
      So glad to be here tonight! I'm Justin-- middle school principal in Pelham, Alabama at @PelhamParkMS #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:00 PM EDT
        Welcome to #ALedchat! Tonight’s chat is focused on John Hattie’s research on Visible Learning. We will be looking at mindframes for educators. There are 10 mindframes, but tonight we will look at the first 5! Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do.
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Welcome, AJ! Pumped you are here! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Welcome Blake! #ALEdChat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Good to see you friend! #ALEdChat
    • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:02 PM EDT
      Christy Bice, Principal at Haleyville Elementary and a co-moderator for #aledchat. Looking forward to learning with you all tonight.
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    ******Q1 coming up in 1 minute!!******* #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Welcome AJ! #ALEdChat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Blake! Welcome, buddy. Glad you are with us. #aledchat
  • Trish_Crain Oct 1 @ 10:05 PM EDT
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Q1: In the book Visible Learning for Literacy, Fisher, Frey, and Hattie state “Every student deserves a great teacher, not by chance, but by design.” As teachers and instructional leaders, how do you ensure that you don’t leave good teaching to chance? #ALedchat
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! I'm Alicia, an Academic Specialist for Pelham. Glad to be here! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    We are so glad to have you! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Alicia! #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Alicia! #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    A1: This is my quote of the year. We have it hanging in our team room. At Edgewood, we have daily meetings to focus on instruction and student learning. We make changes that are not always comfortable if it is best for kids. #aledchat
  • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Hi! Todd from Texas! Joining tonight to learn from y’all #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    YES! The best Academic Specialist in the biz! Welcome, Alicia! Glad you are here! #aledchat #edurockstar
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Corey here with @BrightBytes and joining from St Petersburg, FL once again! #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    So glad to have a friend visiting from TX! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Welcome Back! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1:Guaranteed&viable curriculum,CPT,pacing & intentional learning planning together-“...children’s education should be left not to whatever sense of challenge or level of expectation a teacher may have, but to an appropriate high level of challenge and expectation.” p.2 #ALEdChat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Todd, welcome! Pumped you are with us tonight! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Planning, preparedness and PD can ensure that every student has the best teachers we can give. Teachers want to be awesome- we just have to endure they have the training and supplies to be awesome! #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    ❤️❤️❤️ #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
      A1: This is my quote of the year. We have it hanging in our team room. At Edgewood, we have daily meetings to focus on instruction and student learning. We make changes that are not always comfortable if it is best for kids. #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A2: Teacher selection, as well as motivation, support, and PD are all necessary. In addition, our teachers need to understand and buy in to our vision and mission. #studentfirst #believe #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Todd! #ALEdChat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Glad you are here Todd! #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Exactly! The right instruction at the right time! #aledchat
    • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
      A1:Guaranteed&viable curriculum,CPT,pacing & intentional learning planning together-“...children’s education should be left not to whatever sense of challenge or level of expectation a teacher may have, but to an appropriate high level of challenge and expectation.” p.2 #ALEdChat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Good to see you here again Corey! #ALEdChat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Each of us must prepare, daily, to meet the needs of all of our students. We must model that, mentor, encourage, and partner with our peers #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Decisions should always be made that are best for kids, not adults. This can be difficult, but can also be the culture. #ALedchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:07 PM EDT
      A1: This is my quote of the year. We have it hanging in our team room. At Edgewood, we have daily meetings to focus on instruction and student learning. We make changes that are not always comfortable if it is best for kids. #aledchat
  • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Been reading a lot about Nick Sabin and your chat popped up! #aledchat
    In reply to @justinhefner
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    A1 - I use evidence-informed strategies and avoid myths of education that have no evidence of effectiveness...learning styles, the learning pyramid, brain gym stuff, left/right brain stuff, etc. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Welcome Corey! #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    I agree! #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: It's important that we get the right people on the bus, but more important to have them in the right seat! We can't assume greatness is defined the same to all people. Expectations and excellence have to be modeled and communicated. Nothing left to chance! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      Q1: In the book Visible Learning for Literacy, Fisher, Frey, and Hattie state “Every student deserves a great teacher, not by chance, but by design.” As teachers and instructional leaders, how do you ensure that you don’t leave good teaching to chance? #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1 I wonder how we all define good teaching? #ALedchat
  • Heath_M_Harmon Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: High expectations backed up by an equally high level of support. #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Great point! #ALEdChat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    LOVE this! #aledchat
    In reply to @Cbice_1
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Helping teachers think about instruction and ensuring they know when to use strategies for optimum growth and learning is done through PD and instructional conversations! #aledchat
    • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:08 PM EDT
      A1: Planning, preparedness and PD can ensure that every student has the best teachers we can give. Teachers want to be awesome- we just have to endure they have the training and supplies to be awesome! #ALedchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A1) I’m going to waste no time tonight and add that perhaps using data and data analytics in the classroom to help drive instruction can act to take away some of that chance aspect, but as always I do acknowledge my biased perspective here 😉 #ALEdChat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A1: as a principal, i have to be vulnerable & comfortable putting myself out there. I blog & tweet to show my human side & I am not afraid to admit I was wrong . #aledchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Cherith Fluker, 504 & Homebound Specialist, Jefferson County Schools! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Professional accountability for learning! #ALEdChat
    • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
      Each of us must prepare, daily, to meet the needs of all of our students. We must model that, mentor, encourage, and partner with our peers #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    #GoodToGreat #ALedchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:10 PM EDT
      A1: It's important that we get the right people on the bus, but more important to have them in the right seat! We can't assume greatness is defined the same to all people. Expectations and excellence have to be modeled and communicated. Nothing left to chance! #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:06 PM EDT
        Q1: In the book Visible Learning for Literacy, Fisher, Frey, and Hattie state “Every student deserves a great teacher, not by chance, but by design.” As teachers and instructional leaders, how do you ensure that you don’t leave good teaching to chance? #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    So true! Sometimes I think we believe preparedness means we have the lesson plan complete. What's in the plan matters more than having it complete! #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    ******Q2 coming up in 1 minute****** #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Preparing the right instruction is only done by expert teachers. #aledchat
    • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:09 PM EDT
      Each of us must prepare, daily, to meet the needs of all of our students. We must model that, mentor, encourage, and partner with our peers #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Hard to define but we all know it when we see it. #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Hello all! Emily Johnson Haleyville elementary AP #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Couldn't agree more! Consistency modeled and expected from leadership! #aledchat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Q2: Hattie’s first mindframe is “My fundamental task is to evaluate the effect of my teaching on students’ learning and achievement.” How do you and your teachers evaluate your impact? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Excellent question...#ALEdChat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    The MAN! Welcome, Andrew! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Welcome. Always providing humor! What about that Blue Ribbon! Congrats! #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    It’s also important that teachers know their value-they are the key to student success. The research behind @EricJensenBrain points to the teacher being the greatest factor in student success. #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Welcome, Emily! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Welcome Cherith! #ALedchat
    • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Cherith Fluker, 504 & Homebound Specialist, Jefferson County Schools! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    This is true. Hattie's research has helped. #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A2: We must look at our strategies to make sure that students are learning. If a student isn't learning, then we need to determine if our strategies are appropriate. Right strategy=student achievement. #aledchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Fantastic question...I'm sure there are multiple answers. For me it's all about results. Do your kids know more? Did they learn? Can they apply that knowledge? #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Welcome Emily! #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    I agree. Data to back up theory is best practice! #ALEdChat
    In reply to @CoreyAppelbaum
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    What a great question and can be so subjective, wish it was like sports where there are baseline stats such as batting average or yards after a catch that provided a good lithmus test for this but impossible to base entirely on #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Welcome! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A1: Teaching is an immensely complex job. Continuous growth is absolutely essential. Seems like the secret (as an instructional leader) is in differentiating the support & resources for that growth on an individual level #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Great to have you tonight! #aledchat
    • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Cherith Fluker, 504 & Homebound Specialist, Jefferson County Schools! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: MF1: Through formative assessment, Data Driven Instruction (DDI), one-on-one data conversations with principals about student learning, and reteaching. @john_hattie @VisibleLearning @CorwinPress #ALEdChat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Listened to a lady today that has a “C” grade at her school. Shaw has an “F” in achievement and a B in growth. #ALedchat I guess good depends on the needs of the students.
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2 - Assessment. Again, do they know the information? More often than not, this should be constant formative low-stakes assessment. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A1: Never assume that “good teaching” is happening. Inspect often. Provide feedback and support. Seek quality PD. Take advantage of the resources that are available in your building. #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    A2: Constant reflection and assessment (informally & formally) should drive what we do. We have to inspect and we expect daily. #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Welcome! #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Welcome back! #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    I’m offended by that remark. I shared two statements of fact, not a joke! Woohoo! Go Rockets! #RQESRocks #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2: Our teachers use a variety of assessments to determine student progress and mastery from observation to formative assessments to interim assessments. Our effectiveness is based on student growth and success. #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Welcome back Cherith! #ALEdChat
    • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      Cherith Fluker, 504 & Homebound Specialist, Jefferson County Schools! #aledchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    And after evaluating your impact how is this measured? These are great questions #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      Q2: Hattie’s first mindframe is “My fundamental task is to evaluate the effect of my teaching on students’ learning and achievement.” How do you and your teachers evaluate your impact? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Yes. You see results when you match the right teaching strategy to the right target. There is a time and a place for good instructional practices. #aledchat
    • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
      Fantastic question...I'm sure there are multiple answers. For me it's all about results. Do your kids know more? Did they learn? Can they apply that knowledge? #ALEdChat
      In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Welcome Emily! #ALEdChat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A2. True impact is visible when what has been taught is applied correctly in a non for grade situation. Makes me smile every time I see it. #ALedchat
  • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A1: hiring is the most important job an administrator does. Do the work up front! #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Teaching is the hardest job ever! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
      A1: Teaching is an immensely complex job. Continuous growth is absolutely essential. Seems like the secret (as an instructional leader) is in differentiating the support & resources for that growth on an individual level #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Great question. I’m planning a dissertation that attempts to describe the expectations for teaching articulated by the profession. Point being I’m intensely interested in this issue! #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2: I think we have to evaluate how we believe students are learning or achieving first before we can determine if we are impactful. There is so much more that measures success and impact than what data can tell. #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      Q2: Hattie’s first mindframe is “My fundamental task is to evaluate the effect of my teaching on students’ learning and achievement.” How do you and your teachers evaluate your impact? #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    So true! #aledchat
    In reply to @yankee_todd
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2 it’s not the answer the best fits but i think it’s the best answer #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Yes, congrats! #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    *****Q3 coming up in 1 minute***** #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Congrats! #aledchat
    • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:13 PM EDT
      Welcome. Always providing humor! What about that Blue Ribbon! Congrats! #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:11 PM EDT
        Andrew, terrible dancer and high school first chair trombonist. Thankful for the freedom to share ideas (or not) with colleagues. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    That’s a bingo. I was looking for my “teaching is in fact much more complicated than rocket science” pic but this will have to get the job done instead. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • dalehancock Oct 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    The best evaluation is reflecting on the results. #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Well... I guess it depends on if we call an “A” and high test scores winning. #ALedchat
    • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
      What a great question and can be so subjective, wish it was like sports where there are baseline stats such as batting average or yards after a catch that provided a good lithmus test for this but impossible to base entirely on #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A2: consistently assess, both formal and informal ... and also ... are the students excited to come to school?? A love for learning and strong relationships with teachers and staff are both good signs you ARE making an impact. #aledchat
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    I completely agree! Sometimes that means letting go of our favorite activities in pursuit of something more impactful. #aledchat
    In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A2: I move that we switch from talking about “data” to talking about “evidence of student learning”. #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Which is why we love and value our teachers SO much! The last honorable profession... #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:17 PM EDT
      Teaching is the hardest job ever! #aledchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:14 PM EDT
        A1: Teaching is an immensely complex job. Continuous growth is absolutely essential. Seems like the secret (as an instructional leader) is in differentiating the support & resources for that growth on an individual level #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A3: We must quit placing the blame on students, parents, etc. Instead, we must realize that we are the difference makers. We must make sure we are using each minute with strategies that are getting results. #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    This is so hard for some teachers. #aledchat
    • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      I completely agree! Sometimes that means letting go of our favorite activities in pursuit of something more impactful. #aledchat
      In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Agreed! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      A2: I move that we switch from talking about “data” to talking about “evidence of student learning”. #ALedchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    A2: Student growth is an indicator of teacher impact. T’s sole purpose is to educate Ss. Growth is an indicator that learning is happening. There are other indicators as well: Relationships, student engagement, quality discourse, achievement. #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3: MF2: Design the learning, be an activator of knowledge, anticipate student responses before the lesson occurs, offer formative feedback to students, make adjustments when necessary, be accountable for student learning @john_hattie @VisibleLearning @CorwinPress #ALEdChat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    And adminstrators! <----- guilty! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
      This is so hard for some teachers. #aledchat
      • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        I completely agree! Sometimes that means letting go of our favorite activities in pursuit of something more impactful. #aledchat
        In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    I second this motion. What types of evidence should be included? #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Absolutely! #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
      And adminstrators! <----- guilty! #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:22 PM EDT
        This is so hard for some teachers. #aledchat
        • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
          I completely agree! Sometimes that means letting go of our favorite activities in pursuit of something more impactful. #aledchat
          In reply to @DrHSutherland
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3 - I read a lot about classroom strategies and think about how I could possibly apply them in my classroom to improve the learning environment. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    A3: First know your student and content. Second, implement effective strategies. Look for with the greatest effect. #movekids #bethegrowthfactor #aledchat
  • Heath_M_Harmon Oct 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    A3: We are the driver of our bus. @JonGordon11 #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    A3: Read, learn from peers, fail forward. There is no magic formula. But I will ALWAYS end the week a better educator than I began it. #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Yes. Welcome back Dale! #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    I love that you brought up effect. I think we use lots of good strategies, but are we using the strategy that has the strongest effect size? #aledchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Hey Laura, if you don’t mind I’m thinking about working these questions into my next @BrightBytes demo, these can lead right into why the space we are in right now is so important to the bullish future of education, I’ll be sure to acknowledge my #ALEdChat sources 😊
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    A3: @Google has a philosophy that says “If the user can’t spell, it’s our fault” ! That mindset is needed in everything we do. #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    *******Q4 coming up in 1 minute****** #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Fine with me! Make sure you recognize Hattie too. ;) He's the master! #aledchat
    • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      Hey Laura, if you don’t mind I’m thinking about working these questions into my next @BrightBytes demo, these can lead right into why the space we are in right now is so important to the bullish future of education, I’ll be sure to acknowledge my #ALEdChat sources 😊
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A3: Protect the time, invest in preparation and planning, use one another to grow, monitor student progress often and intentionally, adjust when necessary, show innovation and stretching of the norm, and constantly look to reach every student's unique potential! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A3: when you try new things and think outside of the box, every day is a learning experience. there will be adjustments and growth from failing forward. Listening to Ss and Ts and allowing them to have a voice is huge in finding out what works and what doesn’t. #aledchat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A3. You only control you. As an educators we must value every second that we are blessed to be with our students. Once wasted, time is lost forever! Be intentional #ALedchat
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Q3: Teachers must address the whole of student learning to truly be an agent of change: in the culture of our classrooms, high expectations, and ongoing reflection #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    OHHHH...this is awesome! #aledchat
    • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      A3: @Google has a philosophy that says “If the user can’t spell, it’s our fault” ! That mindset is needed in everything we do. #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Q4: Hatties third mindframe is “I want to talk more about learning than teaching.” At the end of the day learning is not what matters. How do you focus instructional conversations around learning? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Yes!!!! To do this, teachers must be given the time to do it well. #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
      A3: Protect the time, invest in preparation and planning, use one another to grow, monitor student progress often and intentionally, adjust when necessary, show innovation and stretching of the norm, and constantly look to reach every student's unique potential! #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A4: We need to change our instructional conversations to be more about learning. We must realize that it is not about how great the instruction "looked", but it is about if the instruction caused learning for students. Learning is the key! #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    I am with you. One summamtive test is not a proper measure of student learning! #LASW #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      A2: I move that we switch from talking about “data” to talking about “evidence of student learning”. #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Not enough, in my book. Not calling you out personally but we admin have to speak against the subtext of the way we speak about teachers. Engineers don’t settle for love, they demand respect, voice & pay. As do doctors, lawyers and pretty much all the other professions #ALEdChat
    In reply to @justinhefner
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4: MF3: Looking at Student Work together during CPT! Determining which students learned, which didn’t learn, planning for reteaching a different way, reteaching those that did not learn, going deeper for those that did learn. @john_hattie @VisibleLearning @CorwinPress #ALEdChat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4 - Great point. Learning new information is what it's all about...I know not everyone agrees, but I believe it's the main goal of school/education. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: As leaders we have to model the importance of the learning process and less on the grades. This is a shift for some, others embrace it freely. We discuss with teachers what were students learning, how do you know, what did you change based on assessment? #ALedchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    You can even do both, talk about data and show by correlating this to goals met on various assessments to display that evidence #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      A2: I move that we switch from talking about “data” to talking about “evidence of student learning”. #ALedchat
  • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A4: conversations must be intentional, focus on growth of students of learning, it’s gonna look different S to S but must focus on growth within our classroom and schools #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Learning should equip students to make. A piece of writing. A model. A video. The process and the product can be evidence. Many teachers already do this work, we just don’t privilege it as “real” evidence of learning cause it’s not “data” (is scores) #ALEdchat
    In reply to @AliciaMelton801
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Couldn't agree more! Great point and glad you made it! #aledchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    A4: Exactly-it doesn’t matter what or how you teach if no one is learning! It’s a partnership-make it relevant and get student buy in. #allaboutlearning #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    That my friend is a powerful true statement! Extreme ownership @DrJimmyShaw #ALEdChat
    • yankee_todd Oct 1 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      A3: @Google has a philosophy that says “If the user can’t spell, it’s our fault” ! That mindset is needed in everything we do. #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Absolutely agree! #aledchat
    • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      A4: As leaders we have to model the importance of the learning process and less on the grades. This is a shift for some, others embrace it freely. We discuss with teachers what were students learning, how do you know, what did you change based on assessment? #ALedchat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    A4. Learning can be quantified. As educators we must facilitate the learning for each of our students in a way that leads to their future success. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    *********Q5 coming up in 1 minute********** #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Get out of your comfort zone. Voice and choice. #ALEdChat
    • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
      A3: when you try new things and think outside of the box, every day is a learning experience. there will be adjustments and growth from failing forward. Listening to Ss and Ts and allowing them to have a voice is huge in finding out what works and what doesn’t. #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    The creation piece forces us to model our learning and problem solving... and students LOVE to create! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      Learning should equip students to make. A piece of writing. A model. A video. The process and the product can be evidence. Many teachers already do this work, we just don’t privilege it as “real” evidence of learning cause it’s not “data” (is scores) #ALEdchat
      In reply to @AliciaMelton801
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    I agree! #SEL #ALEdChat
    • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:26 PM EDT
      Q3: Teachers must address the whole of student learning to truly be an agent of change: in the culture of our classrooms, high expectations, and ongoing reflection #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Yes, but there is usually a wide gap between can and do. Also, you may not be thinking this but when most folks say “assessments” they mean a test or a variation on a test. I’m not talking about triangulating test data (although that’s good) I mean different evidence #ALEdchat
    In reply to @CoreyAppelbaum
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    A3 you have to have a vision for your classroom and for each child that you teach. It is about #extremeownership for sure! #ALedchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Hattie says, "Know Thy Impact!!!" So important for us all! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A5: So many teachers only look at assessment as information about students. Instead, we should realize that the results of assessments tell teachers a lot about themselves and their instruction. We should make changes based on this. We need to change the conversation #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    Relationships have a high effect on student learning! #aledchat
    • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      A3 you have to have a vision for your classroom and for each child that you teach. It is about #extremeownership for sure! #ALedchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:21 PM EDT
        Q3: Hattie’s 2nd mindframe is “The success and failure of my students’ learning is about what I do or don’t do. I am a change agent.” How do you determine what you do/don’t do in your classroom/school to ensure you are making the most of every instructional minute? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A5: MF4: Where are the gaps in student learning? How could I have taught this differently? How did the other teachers on my CPT team teach the concept? Were their outcomes different than mine? What might I learn from this? @john_hattie @VisibleLearning @CorwinPress #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Both are important! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:35 PM EDT
      A5: So many teachers only look at assessment as information about students. Instead, we should realize that the results of assessments tell teachers a lot about themselves and their instruction. We should make changes based on this. We need to change the conversation #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A5: It might help if we think of assessment (& grades) as communication instead of compensation. It (should) describe the relationship between the learning & the learning target. And the whole point is to keep moving towards the target. 100% relevant to teacher! #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Teaching and learning is a partnership. Great point. #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Great questions to help us change/add to the conversations on assessment #aledchat
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    A5: Our teachers use interim assessments to identify their own weaknesses in the curriculum. #aledchat
  • dalehancock Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Assessments assess more than knowledge or skills. It’s a reflection of what was learned and how it was taught. #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Yes, yes and yes!!! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
      A5: It might help if we think of assessment (& grades) as communication instead of compensation. It (should) describe the relationship between the learning & the learning target. And the whole point is to keep moving towards the target. 100% relevant to teacher! #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Like student work. #LASW #ALEdChat
    In reply to @ezigbo_, @CoreyAppelbaum
  • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A5 too many times assessments are about checking a box, assessments should drive the instruction, if it’s a project, an exam, or whatever, it should assess the S’s and provide feedback to whether learning is taking place #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    Very true. The data reflects learning and teaching. #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:35 PM EDT
      A5: So many teachers only look at assessment as information about students. Instead, we should realize that the results of assessments tell teachers a lot about themselves and their instruction. We should make changes based on this. We need to change the conversation #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Wonder if we cross referenced the targets and the assessments, what percent correlation would we get? #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
      A5: It might help if we think of assessment (& grades) as communication instead of compensation. It (should) describe the relationship between the learning & the learning target. And the whole point is to keep moving towards the target. 100% relevant to teacher! #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A5: (Well written and planned) Assessments impact the way we teach and reteach (yes, please take time to reteach when necessary!). Assessment guides where learning is happening and will happen next. #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
      Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    We must quit doing things to check off a box! #aledchat
    • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:38 PM EDT
      A5 too many times assessments are about checking a box, assessments should drive the instruction, if it’s a project, an exam, or whatever, it should assess the S’s and provide feedback to whether learning is taking place #ALedchat
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    I LOVE this perception of assessment. It's so valuable to have formative assessment from students in order to guide our upcoming instruction. However, this requires taking our egos out of the equation and solely focusing on what our students need. #aledchat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A5. It is tragic to listen to a teacher trash their students for how badly they did on a test. The teacher gave no considerations that the failure was the lack of teaching. If our students don’t succeed we must analysis, reflect, and adjust #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Well said, Sean! #aledchat
    In reply to @stclark10
  • Heath_M_Harmon Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A5: We should strive for balance. Assessments should be as much about the process as they are about the product. They should be as much about transformation as they are about transaction. If not more. #aledchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    A5: Seeing consistently low grades on assessments should spark something in the T that says something is lacking in instruction. Ts should use assessment scores as a self-reflection tool. #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    ******** Q6 coming up in 1 minute********** #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Very cool way to look at assessment! @AliciaMelton801 #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
      A5: It might help if we think of assessment (& grades) as communication instead of compensation. It (should) describe the relationship between the learning & the learning target. And the whole point is to keep moving towards the target. 100% relevant to teacher! #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Data Driven Instruction not Data Informed #ALEdChat
    • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:38 PM EDT
      A5 too many times assessments are about checking a box, assessments should drive the instruction, if it’s a project, an exam, or whatever, it should assess the S’s and provide feedback to whether learning is taking place #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    A5- assessments should guide Ts as much if not more than Ss. They show teacher weaknesses and can help map out instruction. #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Q6: The fifth mindframe is “I teach through dialogue not monologue.” What is the difference and how do you ensure that there is more dialogue than monologue in your classroom and school. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Re-teaching is necessary for students. We need assessment to help us know when to do this and if a strategy was effective #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
      A5: (Well written and planned) Assessments impact the way we teach and reteach (yes, please take time to reteach when necessary!). Assessment guides where learning is happening and will happen next. #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Do most educators create assessments before the lesson or vice versa, in your experience? #ALEdchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
      A5: (Well written and planned) Assessments impact the way we teach and reteach (yes, please take time to reteach when necessary!). Assessment guides where learning is happening and will happen next. #aledchat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
        Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    A6: Teachers need to quit talking to students. Say goodbye to sit and get. Instead, let students talk. Talk to the teacher; talk to each other. Teachers need to allow students to provide teachers feedback. #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    Another great question. Some would be high and some would be a low correlation. #ALEdChat
    • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
      Wonder if we cross referenced the targets and the assessments, what percent correlation would we get? #ALedchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:36 PM EDT
        A5: It might help if we think of assessment (& grades) as communication instead of compensation. It (should) describe the relationship between the learning & the learning target. And the whole point is to keep moving towards the target. 100% relevant to teacher! #ALEdChat
        • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
          Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    I totally agree. We must have a culture where it is ok to talk about these things. We are not judging teachers, but we want to improve for our students. #aledchat
    • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
      I LOVE this perception of assessment. It's so valuable to have formative assessment from students in order to guide our upcoming instruction. However, this requires taking our egos out of the equation and solely focusing on what our students need. #aledchat
      In reply to @2lt8
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    Seems like such an easy answer, but I'm not sure it's happening. #aledchat
    In reply to @cfluker6
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    Be careful. That rabbit hole is extremely deep. I fell into it 15 years ago and still haven’t found the bottom. I’m currently reading The Testing Charade by @DanKoretz. I recommend assuming a low correlation. #ALEdchat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw, @DanKoretz
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A6: MF5: Monologue-long speech/Dialogue-free flow of meaning-2ormore. Set expectations for dialogue, build trust, practice, teach students Think Time I & II, post question & agreement stems 4 students to use, make it routine. @john_hattie @VisibleLearning @CorwinPress #ALEdChat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A6 - Allow conversation...allow questions and verbal interaction. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @2lt8
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A6: “It’s not the filling of a pail, but the igniting of a fire!” #aledchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    And peer to peer feedback. #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      A6: Teachers need to quit talking to students. Say goodbye to sit and get. Instead, let students talk. Talk to the teacher; talk to each other. Teachers need to allow students to provide teachers feedback. #aledchat
  • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A6: great question. Dialogue allows both parties to present information, T’s and S’s creating discourse among one and other, both sides need and should be invested in the process #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A6: You already got your K-12 education. Be quiet and let the kids learn. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    Great point! #aledchat
    • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
      And peer to peer feedback. #ALEdChat
      • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
        A6: Teachers need to quit talking to students. Say goodbye to sit and get. Instead, let students talk. Talk to the teacher; talk to each other. Teachers need to allow students to provide teachers feedback. #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    If you are an instructional leader, the same can be said for us as well. #ALedchat Do we speak poorly of low performers or do teach? #CoachingOrYelling #ALedchat
    • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
      A5. It is tragic to listen to a teacher trash their students for how badly they did on a test. The teacher gave no considerations that the failure was the lack of teaching. If our students don’t succeed we must analysis, reflect, and adjust #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A6: teacher is facilitating discussion while guiding instruction... the entire lesson should not be teacher led but student led. #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Most are written in the middle or end of a unit. We're trying to shift our thinking to begin with the end in mind. If you have a well-written assessment in the beginning, planning and monitoring progress along the way helps when you know what is coming! #aledchat
    • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:41 PM EDT
      Do most educators create assessments before the lesson or vice versa, in your experience? #ALEdchat
      • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:39 PM EDT
        A5: (Well written and planned) Assessments impact the way we teach and reteach (yes, please take time to reteach when necessary!). Assessment guides where learning is happening and will happen next. #aledchat
        • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:34 PM EDT
          Q5: The fourth mindframe is “Assessment is about my impact.” Said another way, assessment is feedback for me about me. That is a new way to look at assessment for some teachers. How can you help teachers use assessment to give them information about themselves? #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Boom! #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:44 PM EDT
      A6: You already got your K-12 education. Be quiet and let the kids learn. #ALedchat
  • dalehancock Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Questioning s a great teaching tool. It’s not only for an assessment. #ALEdChat
  • AnthonyJBuckner Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A6. Effective communication requires actively listening. If the teacher is only one talking the communication is only one way. We must allow the students to have a voice and interaction to ever assess their learning. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Student led is key! #aledchat
    • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:45 PM EDT
      A6: teacher is facilitating discussion while guiding instruction... the entire lesson should not be teacher led but student led. #aledchat
  • dalehancock Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Questioning is a great teaching tool. It’s not only used for an assessment. #ALEdchat
  • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Most of the time, unless I create a formative assessment on the spot, I create my assessments before the lesson. #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Also, the TYPE of questions we ask can help. Ask questions that do not have binary answers. Ask questions to which you DON’T give “the answer” after the discussion is over. If your kids can say what’d you get for #6, you might not be asking dialogic questions. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    ********** Q7 coming up in 1 minute********* #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Q7: Which of the 5 mindframes tonight spoke to you the most and why? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    .@Question2Think #ALEdChat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
      Also, the TYPE of questions we ask can help. Ask questions that do not have binary answers. Ask questions to which you DON’T give “the answer” after the discussion is over. If your kids can say what’d you get for #6, you might not be asking dialogic questions. #ALedchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A6) Data provided by teachers, students, admin, parents...this can help facilitate more than a monologue and help paint a clearer picture #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:41 PM EDT
      Q6: The fifth mindframe is “I teach through dialogue not monologue.” What is the difference and how do you ensure that there is more dialogue than monologue in your classroom and school. #ALedchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A7: I love the one about feedback! I think we need to look at assessments to help change us as teachers. We need to make sure our teaching strategies are providing positive effects on the learners. #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    I’m very thankful that I don’t have to observe myself now teaching with what I knew then! #ALEdChat
    • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
      Honestly, I can’t say that I had that mindset when I was in the classroom. 🙈
      In reply to @justinhefner
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
  • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A7: Assessments: gotta have the feedback #ALedchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    @Twitter I really wish we could add pics, polls, & gifs to retweet. It would give so much more context. @effortfuleduktr I would love to do a poll tonight to find out what the #ALedchat family most often does.
    • effortfuleduktr Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
      Most of the time, unless I create a formative assessment on the spot, I create my assessments before the lesson. #ALEdChat
      In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A7- We are the change agent. We have the power to make a difference. Be a change for the good. #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: Definitely the feedback! We all desire feedback and really just want to know if the effort we're making is impactful and meaningful. Assessment can provide that for teachers, and a collaborative conversation sharpening one another is the key to growth! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    I love that! We can make a difference. #aledchat
    • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:51 PM EDT
      A7- We are the change agent. We have the power to make a difference. Be a change for the good. #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Yes! #aledchat
    In reply to @emilysljohnson
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Me too! #ALedchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      A7: Definitely the feedback! We all desire feedback and really just want to know if the effort we're making is impactful and meaningful. Assessment can provide that for teachers, and a collaborative conversation sharpening one another is the key to growth! #aledchat
  • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    A6: one of my favorite educators, Martha Trejo once said, “No wonder the T is the smartest person in the classroom. They are using all the academic language!” Ss voice is so important and necessary in the classroom! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    We must model that too and create that culture! #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      A7: Definitely the feedback! We all desire feedback and really just want to know if the effort we're making is impactful and meaningful. Assessment can provide that for teachers, and a collaborative conversation sharpening one another is the key to growth! #aledchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    A7) As I stated earlier these all spoke to me in my current role and to what I have to offer when we come into a district talking about @BrightBytes, all the additional insight on here just reinforced this with the great dialogue #ALEdChat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:48 PM EDT
      Q7: Which of the 5 mindframes tonight spoke to you the most and why? #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Uh, me too.... #aledchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      I’m very thankful that I don’t have to observe myself now teaching with what I knew then! #ALEdChat
      • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
        Honestly, I can’t say that I had that mindset when I was in the classroom. 🙈
        In reply to @justinhefner
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    ********** Final Question coming up in 1 minute********* #ALedchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    A7: Shameless invite - want to wrestle with some of these questions re assessment & grading? Come to #ACGAL this Saturday. Or at least learn with us by following the hashtag 👆🏻. @clasleaders @alnbctnetwork @alabama_amle @AlabamaASCD & In-Service Cntrs co-sponsoring #ALedchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    YES, YES, YES! #aledchat
    • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
      We must model that too and create that culture! #aledchat
      • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
        A7: Definitely the feedback! We all desire feedback and really just want to know if the effort we're making is impactful and meaningful. Assessment can provide that for teachers, and a collaborative conversation sharpening one another is the key to growth! #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    I respect your experience but don’t think it’s a rabbit hole. I think it’s pretty foundational #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      Be careful. That rabbit hole is extremely deep. I fell into it 15 years ago and still haven’t found the bottom. I’m currently reading The Testing Charade by @DanKoretz. I recommend assuming a low correlation. #ALEdchat
      In reply to @DrJimmyShaw, @DanKoretz
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    FQ: What are you going to try and or change in your classroom and school moving forward after tonight’s chat? #ALedchat
  • JackieAFlowers Oct 1 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Amen! @DrJimmyShaw #ALEdChat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      A7: Definitely the feedback! We all desire feedback and really just want to know if the effort we're making is impactful and meaningful. Assessment can provide that for teachers, and a collaborative conversation sharpening one another is the key to growth! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Yep! Me too... #aledchat
    • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:53 PM EDT
      Uh, me too.... #aledchat
      • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:49 PM EDT
        I’m very thankful that I don’t have to observe myself now teaching with what I knew then! #ALEdChat
        • cfluker6 Oct 1 @ 10:46 PM EDT
          Honestly, I can’t say that I had that mindset when I was in the classroom. 🙈
          In reply to @justinhefner
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Doesn’t mean as much without the context of your tweet. #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      Do it!
      In reply to @DrJimmyShaw, @Twitter, @effortfuleduktr
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    FA: Cobtinue to find ways to focus on the learning and not the teaching! #ALedchat
  • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A7: I was most moved by “Assessment is about my impact.” Great teachers must own their successes as well as their shortcomings. However, they can't lose sight of the ways they impact students which can't be measured by grades or test scores! #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Thank you Laura @2lt8 for leading our chat tonight! Great questions and guidance! #ALedchat
  • stclark10 Oct 1 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    FA: creating more conversations about learning, I mean that’s what we want right, more learning from our S’s #ALedchat
  • emilysljohnson Oct 1 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    FA- Student led rather than teacher led! Dialogue over monologue #aledchat
  • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    My point was that the more you study the nature of standardized testing in particular, the uglier it gets. It absolutely is foundation to everything we do in public education and I find that deeply disturbing given how badly we do it. Your question was gold #ALEdChat
    In reply to @DrJimmyShaw
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    FA: We are still working on building that culture that it's ok to change. We want teachers to be comfortable having conversations about the successes and failures (for lack of a better word) of a strategy. #aledchat
  • DrJimmyShaw - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Thanks for book suggestion. I’ll buy it ASAP #ALedchat
    • ezigbo_ Oct 1 @ 10:42 PM EDT
      Be careful. That rabbit hole is extremely deep. I fell into it 15 years ago and still haven’t found the bottom. I’m currently reading The Testing Charade by @DanKoretz. I recommend assuming a low correlation. #ALEdchat
      In reply to @DrJimmyShaw, @DanKoretz
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    All about the learning #aledchat
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Join #ALEDCHAT next week as we discuss Leading for Instructional Improvement based on the research of Fink and Markholt. Have a great week! @AliciaMelton801
  • Cbice_1 - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Thank you @2lt8 leading our learning tonight! Look forward to seeing you all next week! #bestpln #aledchat
  • DrHSutherland - Moderator Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    FA: Continue to find ways to focus on the learning and not the teaching! #ALEdchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Thanks! I enjoyed it. Thank you for being here! #fearlessleader #aledchat
  • Heath_M_Harmon Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
  • justinhefner Oct 1 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Relationships first! Let them know you love and care for them and they'll listen and follow you anywhere you want them to go! #aledchat
    • AliciaMelton801 Oct 1 @ 10:56 PM EDT
      A7: I was most moved by “Assessment is about my impact.” Great teachers must own their successes as well as their shortcomings. However, they can't lose sight of the ways they impact students which can't be measured by grades or test scores! #aledchat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Thanks so much for joining us on #ALedchat tonight! We enjoyed learning from you!
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Looking forward to it! #aledchat
  • CoreyAppelbaum Oct 1 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    I would suggest to any of my colleagues, whether you work in Alabama or not, to make time on a Monday evening for one or the #ALEdChat
  • 2lt8 Oct 1 @ 11:00 PM EDT
    Thank you for being part of the fastest hour on Twitter. Make sure to follow new educators tonight. Have a fantastic week! #ALedchat