#gafechat Archive
Community of educators discussing and sharing Google for Education ideas and resources.
Tuesday March 15, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#gafechat
. Please introduce yourself, where you are from & share blog/website (if applicable)
https://t.co/SGVHaToQoV
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT
For the next hour all my tweets will be dedicated to
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discussing Collaboration vs Cheating
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Ditto!
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https://t.co/DMjEwvRtFm
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 8:59 PM EDT
For the next hour all my tweets will be dedicated to
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Collaboration vs Cheating discussion
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kelly, Austin, TX ~
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moderator, Google Trainer & Level 2 Edu,
https://t.co/Z9n3PNfgEP
&
https://t.co/jpL1HjOQjP
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Mindy Woods, CIT Dallas TX
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
For the next hour all my tweets will be dedicated to
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Collaboration vs Cheating discussion
nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi! Nancy checking in from Pennsylvania - interesting topic!
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Eric Curts, Tech Integrationist from Ohio, GET, GEI, GEG leader,
https://t.co/IAacxsKyH6
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@nironside13
Welcome Nancy. Glad you could make it to
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@DarrylLoy
Thanks for joining us tonight Darryl.
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Darryl from Fort Worth...Associate Head at Fort Worth Academy..blog is
https://t.co/MttrdfVr3P
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
#gafechat
uses the Q# & A# format. Ex: respond to Q1 by starting your tweet with A1
halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Andrea, Tech Integration from Mpls, MN. Lv2Edu.
https://t.co/QdJMmi0Gpf
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JChanter22
Mar 15 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello,
#gafechat
! Hello! Curriculum & tech t k-5 from Ohio.
https://t.co/G4KEowk38l
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Is anyone else on Spring Break this week? I am getting some much needed rest.
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:04 PM EDT
No spring break for me this year! Getting out of school early for building construction!
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
1st question coming in 1 minute.
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Kat from Austin, Texas
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I work for a non-profit with
#jj
schools nationwide as Director of Technology
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
My spring break was last week,but my kids are off and calling all day!
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@dramatickat
Have Kat, you are in my neck of the woods. Glad you are joining us
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
No Spring Break but I do get one day off
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1: What is the difference between collaboration and cheating?
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https://t.co/kYZLq6fPvo
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: Collab is Ss helping each other learn, Cheat is Ss doing work for others...someone is not learning
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1: Working together to create a product vs claiming someone else’s work is your own
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A1) Collaboration implies equal partnership, cheating is one-way taking information.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Collaboration is working together to create understanding, cheating is taking credit for someone else’s understanding.
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
Me too! It is nice to make connections close by...most of my work is virtual...missing the F2F
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Patty from Joshua (Fort Worth Area) - On Spring Break this week also.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Always said who was driving the mouse? there is a diff between help and cheating
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 collaboration involves give & take. cheating is all take.
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: I think of collaboration requiring group participation..cheating=one person doing the work and others just copying
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Collaboration involves working together to create an idea or product and cheating is stealing someone's ideas or work.
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JChanter22
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: collab- working smarter not harder in a team. Cheating- taking someone's work & posing it as your own w/o permission.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
So true. I am guilty of wanting to take the mouse when showing Ts something. Cheating them from learning
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https://t.co/dYDtkEdQzr
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Always said who was driving the mouse? there is a diff between help and cheating
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: Collaboration is working together to create a product or an idea, cheating is using work not your own.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@JChanter22
Unfortunately there is cheating with permission too. Ss think they are helping and friend when really hurting
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
It is the hardest thing for me as a tech coach for Ts!!! Have.To.Fight.The.Urge!
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1- Collaboration is all creating, inspiring, building.Cheating is taking credit for others work AND allowing other to take credit
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linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1- intentions
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Too true!!!
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https://t.co/P3SUen45E4
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:08 PM EDT
So true. I am guilty of wanting to take the mouse when showing Ts something. Cheating them from learning
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https://t.co/dYDtkEdQzr
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: Always said who was driving the mouse? there is a diff between help and cheating
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
@JChanter22
Ss need a better understanding of intellectual property to really get it...
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Excellent one word summation!!
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https://t.co/CioqCkHPoo
linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1- intentions
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@JChanter22
I am interested in your addition of permission...do you think permission changes the outcome?
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@linktohansen
Exactly. It's all in the attitude.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
it IS a 2-way street. Others can not cheat off you if you don't allow it
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@mbswoods
@JChanter22
So true. They don't get it or is it that it isn't emphasized enough in classes?
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:12 PM EDT
.
@LISDTechie
@JChanter22
Agreed.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Q2: What steps can/do you take to prevent cheating in a collaborative environment?
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https://t.co/UzkQu8TMP2
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: Use Classroom or Doctopus to push out assignments so you can monitor work all throughout the process
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Explain Revision History and Draftback to students and use to track team contributions
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Offer open-ended questions through a variety of posting avenues.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
@JChanter22
honestly, we all need to work harder to educate Ts and Ss on that.
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Use Forms features: collect username, shuffle Qs and As, turn off when not in use, bright theme to see who leaves Form
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
So important to monitor not only for cheating, but for real-time feedback as well.
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https://t.co/zsWMvcYGGl
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A2: Use Classroom or Doctopus to push out assignments so you can monitor work all throughout the process
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JChanter22
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: praise creativity&original ideas like it's nobody's business.Why do kids cheat?No time or lazy?Engage Ss & be realistic!
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@dramatickat
@JChanter22
I feel permission does change the outcome.the Ss granted the permission will put in no additional thought
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Monitor the group progress via Revision History,
https://t.co/QtrPe1YlcD
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Teach proper citation with tools including Research Tool, EasyBib, etc.
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@mbswoods
@LISDTechie
@JChanter22
W/o physical book & w/ info everywhere, hard to remember that original ideas are worth something
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: Teach, Teach, Teach Digital Citizenship! Reward Digital Citizenship in the classroom!
@CommonSenseEdu
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Have students include themselves personally in project with Screencastify, MoveNote, TWistedWave, etc
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2) Give assessments where cheating isn't possible. If there's an answer key, Ss can cheat. Get them to apply info not recall.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
LOVE the bright theme idea. Never thought of that.
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https://t.co/UFQZGvGzoX
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Use Forms features: collect username, shuffle Qs and As, turn off when not in use, bright theme to see who leaves Form
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Provide assignments that can’t just be Googled, but require higher level thinking to complete
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Reduce or remove the grade on formative assessments so there is little motivation to cheat
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Talk to Ss about the difference between collaboration vs cheating. Give scenarios showing difference
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: BUT...best thing is to get involved in what the Ss are doing.
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https://t.co/iKcXHPsved
linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@ericcurts
definitely used such methods in explanation of how really visible student work is
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A2: Emphasizing planning beforehand and monitoring during the process. Constant reminders of expectations/guidelines to Ss.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@dramatickat
@CommonSenseEdu
What suggestions do you have for rewarding good digital citizenship?
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
So true for all assignments!
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https://t.co/gBmsNy6JO1
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Provide assignments that can’t just be Googled, but require higher level thinking to complete
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Teach & model - site images & ideas - give credit to others, whether professionals or Ss
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https://t.co/9ug7qrA8wm
dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2: Teach, Teach, Teach Digital Citizenship! Reward Digital Citizenship in the classroom!
@CommonSenseEdu
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@mbswoods
That's my mantra when training teachers for tech in the classroom!
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2- Teach and model citation of everything!! Even pics. AND hold them accountable.
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#tlchat
nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
concrete examples always help clarify differences!
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branowar
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Constant gauging levels of collaboration through peer assessment.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Not quite sure why there should ever be a grade on a formative assessment.
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https://t.co/SrRDmgmcxI
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A2: Reduce or remove the grade on formative assessments so there is little motivation to cheat
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JChanter22
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: I agree w/
@ericcurts
! Change your teaching. Give more opportunities for open ended original work.
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https://t.co/42qc3eTIIQ
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:18 PM EDT
I create "passwords" for different classrooms by using the "matches exactly" data verification feature
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https://t.co/JsayoqV783
ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A2: Use Forms features: collect username, shuffle Qs and As, turn off when not in use, bright theme to see who leaves Form
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q3: See image for scenario question
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https://t.co/78ePF0eCpi
MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Focus on the learning and put value there. Too many times, the value is only put in the grade.
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@mbswoods
This gets hard when 20 are collaborating. Just had an issue in slides. I will find the heathen.
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Show student the digital paper trail through sharing settings, file details, admin console reports, Vault searches
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Check revision history, doc details & activity to see who shared & who copied. Both cheated, different convo needs to happen
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Well said!!!
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https://t.co/aDEErZKWeu
MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Focus on the learning and put value there. Too many times, the value is only put in the grade.
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linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2- Classroom has provided controlled collaboration. Transparency is very helpful
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MLunoff
SO IMPORTANT for Ss to know that learning is key
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3: Have to talk to SB and see why they did it, why they couldn't do their own, and what they think the next steps are
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3) Talk with both students - emphasize dig cit/copyright. No 0s. Redo assignment without taking someone else's answers.
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@ericcurts
does bright theme show going to a different tab?
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 - in iPad classroom ... 1. Bluetooth off, 2. iPads flat on desk, other devises off and on desk face up
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A3:b May even need to see what they really know. May be about lack of desire to do work, not lack of knowledge
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
Can make it easier to see if a student leaves the form when you are walking around the classroom
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@mbswoods
What convo would you have with SA?
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linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A3 like what
@ericcurts
stated. Revision history is huge as well as draftback
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@halversonandrea
I like your response - 2nd chances are powerful learning opportunities!
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:23 PM EDT
This is for individual assessments
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A3 Quiz both Ss orally on work that they did to check for learning if cheating suspected. Only have Ss share to view or comment
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@linktohansen
@ericcurts
Don't know if still does, but Draftback used to crash when there wasn't revision history. Telling sign!
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
I think why did you think it was okay to let SB cheat...did you know...how can you advocate 4 U next time
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@nironside13
Thanks! Giving 0s doesn't teach a lesson and doesn't show what they know.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#gafechat
will be archived ~ don’t worry if chat moves too fast. Check website after chat
THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Jumping back into
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after a long absence! I've missed the learning! Lynn, Teacher Librarian in Iowa! Will join the next Q!
MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 If worried about cheating, don’t give assignment on G Docs or assign each student assignment in G Classroom
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: After checking revision history...talk to Student B about why they were NOT engaged in the assignment.
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@halversonandrea
no - and it doesn't ever motivate them to do better.
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3- Student B gets individual topic. Skill is still important, so task still needed. Student A really irks me!! 20 lashes???
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q4: What consequences should students receive for a cheating violation?
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https://t.co/9esJbXcZNU
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Powerful to ask Ss why not engaged. You can use their wisdom to help better prepare for future assignments
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https://t.co/uOi4AlaF40
dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: After checking revision history...talk to Student B about why they were NOT engaged in the assignment.
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 - Happened on one campus and teachers caught with revision history. Had plagiarism discussion and Ss re-did work.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4: 1st off, please don’t take device away! You wouldn’t take textbook away. It is a learning tool.
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4: Cheating Ss still need to do the work. Some Ss may prefer a zero just to get out of the work.
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 I get academic integrity part, but 1 of best features of G Docs is sharing ideas. Double edged sword if assignment was on it
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Interest Inventories can transform student engagement!
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https://t.co/944yZRVtrt
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Powerful to ask Ss why not engaged. You can use their wisdom to help better prepare for future assignments
#gafechat
https://t.co/uOi4AlaF40
dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: After checking revision history...talk to Student B about why they were NOT engaged in the assignment.
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4: Continued… Make it harder to avoid the work than to just do it in the first place
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
Both need a S-T conference! Need to nip it in the bud
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Give cheater(s) alternative assignment and require proof of learning/understanding
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4 Alternate assignment to demonstrate student learning. The consequence for not doing the work is doing the work
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
How often does everyone check revision history? I don't do it enough
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Cheating is a teachable moment...students need to make mistakes to learn.
#nozeropolicies
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Agreed...NEVER an option!!
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https://t.co/AyE0v0H8mL
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A4: 1st off, please don’t take device away! You wouldn’t take textbook away. It is a learning tool.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: No “magic solution” on our campus, but this was a good resource,
https://t.co/IcUH30A5Xw
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linktohansen
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4- not taking tech away. We need a consequence that will teach a lesson and hold accountability
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THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4: The most natural of consequences: They should have to redo the work. If not, they've learned nothing (in every sense).
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@mbswoods
@KatieJMcNamara
would you include parent or admin?
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Alternate and/or additional assignment maybe?
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https://t.co/XGVDjcqTxC
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A4: Give cheater(s) alternative assignment and require proof of learning/understanding
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4) They earn the chance to do it over again by themselves. No 0s. Talk to S to find motivation for cheating.
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 - School policy dictates zero and call to parent. Doesn't solve the problem but those are the rules.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@ericcurts
proof of skill and knowledge is what Ts really want not how well Ss copy/paste
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@THLibrariZen
That is the perfect solution. The goal is learning and that accomplishes the goal.
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A4- No 0s!! Let them determine new project-usually more intense than what T would suggest and something they are into. WINWIN
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@jisd_inst_tech
Who made that school policy? What were the reasoning behind it?
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@dramatickat
we all do so much growing through strife. Sometimes you have to FAIL to learn
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:33 PM EDT
And I FAIL all the time. It is my First Attempt In Learning (F.A.I.L.)
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https://t.co/arqQ4G4LQk
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@dramatickat
we all do so much growing through strife. Sometimes you have to FAIL to learn
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:33 PM EDT
#gafechat
could you still enforce the must do the assignment? Negotiate the "size of the zero"? Out of x pts for ex
https://t.co/aeP9RTD88O
jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A4 - School policy dictates zero and call to parent. Doesn't solve the problem but those are the rules.
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Gets back to the thought provoking, nonGoogleable assignment!!
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https://t.co/TUGt8FCrQi
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@ericcurts
proof of skill and knowledge is what Ts really want not how well Ss copy/paste
#gafechat
jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
It's been in the handbook since I can remember. The goal is learning and the zero doesn't achieve that goal.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q5: Share examples of digital learning experiences that encourage student collaboration.
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https://t.co/7FyApRoQlb
halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
@mbswoods
@KatieJMcNamara
I wouldn't for first offense. Might reconsider if it becomes a habit.
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NKleinmeyer
Mar 15 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: I want to know what the students know, so ultimately, students need to do the work, and show the learning.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A5: Assign various roles to give each Ss a purpose for collaboration
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
That's a great idea.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@jisd_inst_tech
Sounds like one of those 'we do it like that because we have always done it like that' type of things. Yuck!
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@jisd_inst_tech
@LISDTechie
We are TS! Content/skill is our goal. But Ss want the grade...how do we compromise
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@halversonandrea
@MikeSzczepanik
@mbswoods
Sometimes parent is cause of cheating.
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5 GHOs, Twitter chats, student construction/presentation of G Slides, student constructed videos explaining concept
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halversonandrea
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@jisd_inst_tech
I would "forget" that policy. Does nothing but hurt students.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: Ss editing/commenting on each others NaNorimo novels
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THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A5: Starting region research project w/ 2nd graders. Each S researches state & Ss compare. End goal is commercial for the region.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: Have students collaborate with others around school/district/world to create blogs, stories, articles, etc.
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Q5:
@breakoutEDU
This is a great way to blend learning, foster discovery learning, and cultivate collaboration!
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
also, teach active listening, collab problem solving, design thinking, so that Ss are partners in the project
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5 slides - each Ss investigated an endangered species, 1 presentation, All Ss looked at trends in grps - individually assessed
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@halversonandrea
@jisd_inst_tech
my school is working on this. Not all are happy, but we allow Ss more opp to show knowledge
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A5: Ss using
@explainevrythng
to create math videos...they watch each others to check for accuracy
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Great idea! Reminds me of Mystery Skype/GHO also. Learn diff perspectives
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https://t.co/LrvvnDaMOw
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A5: Have students collaborate with others around school/district/world to create blogs, stories, articles, etc.
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Jepson
Mar 15 @ 9:39 PM EDT
LOVE the idea of expiration dates!
#GoogleCI
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https://t.co/pHhDnmF3j1
jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A5: Most successful this year have been virtual museum, board game design in Drawings - assignments Ss saw as fun.
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MrSchoenbart
Mar 15 @ 9:40 PM EDT
NEW POST: Sharing Students’ Genius: A
#GeniusHour
Reflection at
https://t.co/zQMpHNlpWx
#gafechat
#NYEDchat
https://t.co/ysD5f9ocxc
NKleinmeyer
Mar 15 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5:
@THLibrariZen
showed me the Word Cloud Generator add on for awesome student collaboration. Great tool.
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https://t.co/6kW1snGFAg
MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A5 - class data for a lab into a form ... Share the results sheet ...
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Q6: What digital tools do your students use for collaboration?
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https://t.co/to5ZUU0crX
KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5-G slides. Each student does own slide. Ss give positive feedback on slides.
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jennivanrees
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Sorry, joining in late. I’m Jenni, Grade 1 Teacher in Ontario.
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rggillespie
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Awesome addition
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https://t.co/UF9bwG5dOI
Jepson
Mar 15 @ 9:39 PM EDT
LOVE the idea of expiration dates!
#GoogleCI
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https://t.co/pHhDnmF3j1
NKleinmeyer
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: I have students start a part of an activity and hand it off to a classmate to finish like a quick fire challenge.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A5: Allow Ss to work together to demonstrate understanding in the way they want. They will be more engaged in the learning
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A6: Google doc, slides, etc are great for Ss to collaboratively building understanding around research.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
only thing is when one S changes the THEME! Have to have that discussion 1st
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: Google Groups is great for tool to build a forum for students to have rich discussions around a topic
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: Our school uses GAFE,
@todaysmeet
,
@padlet
,
@nearpod
...could be others as well
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: Several of these are new to me, but could be good
https://t.co/zfY2dehH9U
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: I love Twitter for older Ss before, during & after school - and
#GoogleEdu
for all. all the time..
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: In my school it's all about Google Classroom and all Google tools. Tt love management and Ss love the collaboration.
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THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: For student collaboration, love all things Google: Classroom, Slides, Docs & Drawings. Also love
@padlet
for capturing ideas!
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A6: Padlet is great for students to post Qs, answer Qs, share resources, etc
https://t.co/ivmhCKTksD
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A6 Besides texting & social media, Google Apps for Ed, videos from iPads, Google Classroom
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
27 free tools for collaboration
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https://t.co/6ItezrTtjp
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A6: Several of these are new to me, but could be good
https://t.co/zfY2dehH9U
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Q6: The collaboration tools my Ss use are
@padlet
@TuvaLabs
@Storybird
@scratch
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@mbswoods
@TodaysMeet
@padlet
@nearpod
all fun!
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A6- Loving
@padlet
for collaboration.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: Use
https://t.co/guuCuH31j1
to create a live Q&A, Ss can vote on posts, polls, slide sharing
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: Use
https://t.co/Uzr1TTjr1l
to create a live Q&A, Ss can vote on posts, polls, slide sharing
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@mbswoods
@KatieJMcNamara
yes that happened to my Ss this year ... White font with white background ... Gone?
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jennivanrees
Mar 15 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: Padlet, Class twitter, kidblog, coding with scratch, sphero, GAFE
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NKleinmeyer
Mar 15 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A6: All things Google are great, especially with Classroom. Let them collaborate with what they use, text, snapchat, photos.
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:47 PM EDT
gotta run - thanks for an engaging chat, all!! I learned a lot!
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:47 PM EDT
.
@NKleinmeyer
even if you don't "let" them ... They will anyways!
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ericcurts
Mar 15 @ 9:47 PM EDT
All of my resources on addressing student cheating in Google Apps
https://t.co/OOiNf6YX7M
training video, slideshow, links
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nironside13
Mar 15 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@NKleinmeyer
love the idea of allowing them to use authentic & available tools!!!
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q7: What has surprised you about students learning and collaborating when using Google tools?
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https://t.co/TvKZ6vjTUL
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@ericcurts
This is on my list to watch/review in near future. Can't wait!
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@MikeSzczepanik
@mbswoods
teachable moments! Just dealt with today. One student freaked out. Helped once I stopped laughing
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@LISDTechie
Love giving general guidelines and letting student choose platform. Sometimes ban docs. Tons of variety.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7: The voice the “shy” Ss have when able to communicate online
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jennivanrees
Mar 15 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7: That Grade Ones can use GAFE successfully - and are able to help each other navigate through it
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7: Their desire to share their work with each other. THEY know the diff between edit and comment!
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A7 Ss take to it so easily. It’s 2nd nature to them. Just show them once & they take off w/it & are not afraid of trying it.
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dramatickat
Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q7: I am always surprised how intuitive the tools are for Ss tech-infused brains!
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7: How engaged the Ss are when collaborating and generally how respectful they are of others' work. Ownership makes a difference.
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MikeSzczepanik
Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@KatieJMcNamara
@LISDTechie
I like that idea!
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7 And Ss want others to see their work! Makes them more careful and work harder to finish great product.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:52 PM EDT
So true!
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https://t.co/xrAfwKSlp9
MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A7 And Ss want others to see their work! Makes them more careful and work harder to finish great product.
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7: Also make the Ss very aware of how easily thier work can be shared...more dilligent/focused on the work they are doing
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A7: Engagement moves to a higher level!
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mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@MLunoff
GAFE is "real world" and that means something to Ss
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KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7-AFTER explaining the power of revision history, S deleted a slide and used info on their own slide. REALLY?!?!?
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NKleinmeyer
Mar 15 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: Students pick it up so easy & as a teacher it is so easy to track who is participating and use that info as a guidance tool.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A7: That Ss really want to learn more and seek out tutorials and YouTube videos to help them learn the tools
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DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A7: When my Ts were my Ss, they were thrilled to break time and location constraints when collaborating
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jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7: That students also come up with great suggestions to improve an assignment the next time.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:56 PM EDT
It has been a great talk tonight on Collaborative vs Cheating. Great ideas shared.
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THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A7: For most, having an immediate authentic audience is highly motivating! Knowing that others will see their work engages them!
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Remember to follow people from
#gafechat
to keep the collaboration going
DarrylLoy
Mar 15 @ 9:57 PM EDT
This is the shortest hour ever!!
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lauren_houser
Mar 15 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A7 even your Ss who don't like to stand out, step up and show their learning by using multiple apps.
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LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Huge thank you to everyone who participated in
#gafechat
. The archive will be posted soon
mbswoods
Mar 15 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@lisdtechie
#gafechat
what a great wealth of tips, new tools, and lessons to try. I LOVE this PLN
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Next
#gafechat
will be April 5th stay tuned for topic and questions
LISDTechie
- Moderator
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
If you have an idea for a future
#gafechat
topic/discussion please share here:
https://t.co/Igs2njdBi9
KatieJMcNamara
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@lauren_houser
Love the appmashers!!
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MLunoff
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks you
@LISDTechie
for a great
#gafechat
tonight! Appreciate your dedication over spring break! Enjoy the rest of it! See you soon!
THLibrariZen
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you for a great
#gafechat
(as always),
@LISDTechie
! I've missed the great conversations! I'll try not to be a stranger!
jisd_inst_tech
Mar 15 @ 9:59 PM EDT
This hour definitely flew by and this was a fascinating topic. Thank you
@LISDTechie
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