#bcedchat Archive
This is an edchat for educators, primarily in British Columbia, Canada.
Sunday October 2, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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Welcome to . The topic today is Self-Assessment and the Core Competencies.
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and YH will be our co-moderators for tonight.
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Woohoo!!! Looking forward to co-modding w/ on Self-Assessment & Core Competencies. Join us. Starts now.
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Always enjoy sunday - looking forward to sharing self-assessment strategies & better exploring the core competencies
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We will be using the Q1, A1 format. Please label your responses and use the hashtag
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Liz from sd43 high school learning services & English teacher excited about tonight's chat
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Woot! Looking forward to chatting with and
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Angela. Early Primary, North Vancouver Island.
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Welcome ! we are so happy to have you here!
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Q1: What do you do in your class for student self-assessment?
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I chuckle re: self assessment. I had two teachers in the 1980's that were big on self assessment.
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Hi . Gillian here from Surrey :)
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Welcome lovely to see you both!
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Ian - principal librarian at in BCs Sunny Shuswap!
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Have fun all. Dinner is late tonight gotta go eat
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Hi Ian... Good to see you at
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Hey working off my phone tonight
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Q1:What do you do in your class for student self-assessment?
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A1 with our exploring eportfolios, I've tried having students do a video reflection. Still need to do some work on this though 🤔
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yay glad to see you here!
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Thx Kat! Forced to use my phone so I might be a little slow.
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Use the "thumbs up, middle or down" to get students to rate their understanding also did a :-) :-( faces on a grammar ex.
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Just jumping in with looking forward to the conversation.
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A1. Love reflective journals in math class. Doing reflective journals with Educ 471 at SFU. Love doing it. Assessment AS Learning.
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A1 I use eportfolios I also teach little humans so still working on self assessment piece
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Love this, Liz. I used the red, yellow, green cups to show understanding.
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Hello everyone! Hope everyone is doing well
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You are a portfolio kinda girl. Love it. e-Portfolios.
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Hello Laurie dropping in for a short while.
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oops RT A1 https://t.co/rm5VMkHZ12
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A1 Ss (at uni level courses) self-evaluate--sparks dialogue around their understanding
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A1: Online reflection journals.
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A1: there are a few Ts at my school that are looking to at to help with both the assessment &Communicating S learning.
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My classroom is pretty low tech, not sure how to make eportolios work. Suggestions? https://t.co/pKcbFFegjR
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A1 I use eportfolios I also teach little humans so still working on self assessment piece
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A1-for writing like to use S created rubrics, highlighters & Ss sharing their thinking w partners
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love bringing in reflection time during math -write/draw/etc what was learned. Loved journals for literature circles
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Q2: What are students self-assessing?
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Q2: What are students self-assessing?
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A1: I've been doing quite a bit w/Gr.9s & their portfolios; I'd like to do more w/Gr.12s
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Hi ! I teach grade 4/5 in .
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I use and only have my own phone and a mini iPad. Still works and love it
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Thanks! Got to look more into Fresh Grade https://t.co/VY0hC9yQSz
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I use and only have my own phone and a mini iPad. Still works and love it
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portfolio-Ingrid is a mindset, doesn't need tech (but tech does help w the storage of artifacts!)
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Sherida Charles late entry tonight. Secondary art. A1: stud art walkabouts, write explanations of their work,informal chat, kahoot
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Q1: Students use thumbs up, thumbs to the side, thumbs down at chest (quietly/secretly) to indicate how they did at meeting goals
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A2 The strengths&weaknesses of different aspects of ongoing work. Their engagement, passion! Their hopes… https://t.co/MTNPwalWrS
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Q2: What are students self-assessing?
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Liz honestly it is awesome. Changed assessment and parent communication for the better.
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very nice! Thx for sharing
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Love it... digging into math thinking. Making the tacit explicit.
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Great to see you here tonight, Sherida. I hope Cent is going well. I do miss it. But Westwood is so much fun!
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A2 can feel easier to reflect on math/reading/writing, sometimes more challenging around "creativity" "critical thinking" et al
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Hi all - Christine from Mission coming in late tonight
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Hi all - Christine from Mission coming in late tonight
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A1: I get students to show where they think their writing/project is on a rubric, and write a reflection about why they think so.
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A2: students assess their own artworks before I evaluate.
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A2 when self reflecting, I try to always have (and model) two "stars" and one "wish" - limit & focus on what to improve on
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hello Christine. Didn't recognize the picture :)
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I've used photos & Ss' work w stickies &/or pieces of paper stapled 2 it. Gr8 4 sharing w Ps
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Like the addition of reflection after marking rubric. I've done the 1st, but not taken it farther! https://t.co/JEhIkbYE1U
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A1: I get students to show where they think their writing/project is on a rubric, and write a reflection about why they think so.
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Hi all, sorry a little bit late - planning away tonight! Victoria from Langley, happy to join
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A great book by Teaching Students to Self Assess https://t.co/ecwfGlDLo8 Gives lots of practical & applicable ideas
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Oh snap... Question 3 is coming...
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A2 Solutions are provided and students try to self assess what they know and need to work on
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I'm just starting w/FreshGrade myself..looking forward to getting to where you're at
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Q3: How do you use self-assessment to support student learning?
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Q3: How do you use self-assessment to support student learning?
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you're very welcome! That's what is all about- sharing.
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A2: Ss self assessing own focus, mindfulness, and on-task behaviours as we continue to develop self-reg skills in Daily5/math
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Q2: St's self-assess our focus for the week/month. It changes. Sept/Oct is usually social responsibility (community building)
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Love it! So they are self-assessing personalized goals?
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Daily 5 is a great resource for SA: students assessing what a "good fit book" might be - using this as a springboard for other SA
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cool! How did your students reach a consensus on the rubric?
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A2: Self-assessment helps me learn about my students' work habits, effort, comprehension, and more!
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Q1 A1 I have students create self-assessment rubrics for projects & inquiry, weekly learning journals, freshgrade
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It's a good one. Hope you are enjoying.
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A3: I use critiques and every student participates to share observations. It cements the learning much more as each hears others.
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Self assessment can help students choose and advocate for more appropriate learning challenges.
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Anyone use any right brain strategies in exploration around self assessment?
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Hi All! Coming in late with dishpan hands from Yukon!
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Totally! Having a pre-created rubric that st's use is never powerful like on the children own.
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Encouraging students to reflect on their work/creations helps them become life long learners
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A3: Student reflections help guide my instruction - but also giving feedback on self-assessment abilities at same time!
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A1 We co-construct criteria for what does good writing look like and use it to peer/self assess year round
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A3. When you include the student's knowledge and understandings with what is being learned makes it personally relevant.
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Joining the Cynthia Chan, supporting K-1 classes in Literacy and Numeracy. Passion for early learning and inquiry
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Asking students guiding questions helps them become more reflective
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A3- helps to guide Ss' planning & next steps. 4 deeper/more complex concepts&learning we use it 2 help set goals.
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Q3: St. self-assessment is an integral piece of my classroom management. With it, children own class expectations.
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Q4: How do you support students to self-assess their learning?
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Q4: How do you support students to self-assess their learning?
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A1 S created rubrics, conferences, FreshGrade/ eportfolios, and I love a quick check of thumbs up/thumbs down
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A1 S created rubrics, conferences, FreshGrade/ eportfolios, and I love a quick check of thumbs up/thumbs down
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We hope you’re enjoying the chat tonight! Remember, we chat every Sunday at 7 pm PST!
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A3: Self-assessments help to clarify what our learning goals are and how we have grown - great motivators!
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Is anyone else feeling the need to move away from rubrics?
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A3: I use student self-assessment for goal -setting & chance to identify areas of strengths, interest for inquiry projects
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Q3: 90% class expectations are co-created and self-assessed by st.'s --> student ownership/personalization = powerful
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And even more importantly they own their learning https://t.co/65tprZO7IO
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Q3: St. self-assessment is an integral piece of my classroom management. With it, children own class expectations.
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For some tasks, we use time, focus & access to help. Did task take a short/long time? Focused or distracted? Did you need help?
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This is specifically for self-reg tasks, though.
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I'm sooooo around this... YES... get rid of the rubric-mindset. Agreed.
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A4 I find guidance is needed to help redirect students away from areas they are already pretty good at. Rubrics can help this
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A4: Give time to reflect, and model self-assessment: show students that I'm reflecting on my teaching.
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A4 Give them a variety of ways to reflect! Some like 2 write, others draw/sketchnote, others record video. Let them choose the how
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Can definitely put a ceiling on creativity when kids just aim for the minimum to 'pass' or 'exceed'
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A4: make mistakes a win, encourage risk taking, ask what they liked and didn't like, encourage reworking to improve.
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Q2 A1: Stdnts self assess personal learning goals actively reflect on learning journey on create & develop rubrics
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❤️it. Did this w gr2/3 &had them start by ranking exemplars from anonymous writers then share their reasoning w the class
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A4 the role of assessment as learning is essential Teachers guide their students based on what they are seeing them create
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. I like the developmental framework that the core competencies are based on. Ss can self assess but no rubrics.
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or use them mindfully. Exemplars can be beneficial but sometimes tricky to get good samples
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A4: When looking at product, best work? Full effort? What am I proud about specifically in product? What would I improve?
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But what makes sense next? I am using checklists with co-constructed criteria. Other ideas out there?
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Absolutely. A solid rubric must have anchors and that does not happen often https://t.co/tpNwfb97zG
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Is anyone else feeling the need to move away from rubrics?
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Totally! Use photos/video to tell story. Child can speak their thinking in video/write for photo.
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I saw that. Sure with I had thinner thumbs!😊 It would make the rapid tweeting required 4 SO much easier.
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https://t.co/lYDN5Xvxcc
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one thing I've been using with 3rd grade ss is called the KAT protocol, what would you keep, add, and takeaway,
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A4: support Ss w self-assessment thru guiding Qs, opportunities to revisit past learning via or other portfolios
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Yes, on weekly reflection journals
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Lovely! what tech are you using to accomplish this? https://t.co/vhqwmCDdWD
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Totally! Use photos/video to tell story. Child can speak their thinking in video/write for photo.
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Q5: What have you done so far with ’s core competencies?
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Q5: What have you done so far with ’s core competencies?
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Q4: St. self-ass has to be taught. Once you start the children are accustomed to it. It helps guide personalized learning goals.
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That's a nice, simple protocol for students to follow!
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I don't disagree, but think they may be more useful for teachers than student use.
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Q4: I model my own self-assessment. I am still learning & make mistakes. What wld I say about my own learning as a mathematician?
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A5: The beauty of the core competencies is they are already part of what we do daily: think, communicate, as part of a community
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a BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY to what a champ helping me co-mod on her big day!!!
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a BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY to what a champ helping me co-mod on her big day!!!
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A4 Model and help them build confidence to power through self-improvement
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I think was moving to a circular ass't. looking forward to it!
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Let's not forget students w/IEPs...where appropriate, s's attend own IEP mtgs, have input on their goals+meas+progress
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Thx for the encouragement. I have high hopes for my Ss building upon their digital literacy
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Assessment is such a relevant topic for
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A5 Changed physical space of classroom, tables facillitate communication/colab, re-arrange seats daily.
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A5: Exactly! https://t.co/OC15gzF5zC
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A5: The beauty of the core competencies is they are already part of what we do daily: think, communicate, as part of a community
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Nice! Would love to see what this looks like? Paper journal/digitial?
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Kids love sharing and uploading photos. I tried it for Science 8! Works fab
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A5- used the big ideas 2plan my year then the competencies to guide the more day-to-day. Liked that freedom of finding curric w/in
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A5: This is a hard question to answer when we don't know how we're reporting on these competencies...
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A5Change table groups each day, invite students to engage in daily convo, get-to-knows, support belonging & identity
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Students & families must be involved in planning meetings. Collaboration is key for student success … https://t.co/9U78YFYqJ4
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Let's not forget students w/IEPs...where appropriate, s's attend own IEP mtgs, have input on their goals+meas+progress
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Q2 Their personal growth :)
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I'll say this-Have hit pieces of all major areas. Specific outcomes, not focused on yet. Focused more on community development
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In my district we've been told that it will involve a student reflection at the end of the year.
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Also, forgot to mention, I teach high school Eng/SS
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So far, on paper but would love to encourage digital literacy
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Same with us, but we have no reporting templates for November yet. That's troubling.
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And are seriously still having a discussion about letter grades... I can't.
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🎉🎈🎀Happy Birthday Christine! 🎀🎈🎉
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Q5: Many SEL lessons, not a box building inquiry week, teambuilding 4 thinking & Com. One sentence project for per&social compt.
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A5 we are discussing as a staff ways to have students identify their understanding of & progression through the core competencies
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A5 "stretch break" in 75 min class inc. name games & partner challenges to build community; also "right to pass" when called
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A5. I include and mindful of the core competencies in everything I do in the classroom.
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Yes they are. Would be curious how Student self-assess re Core Comp will look on paper. . Very intrigued.
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Totally! But it could even be a back & forth home/school journal this way. My current p's don't have digital access.
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same w got some teams working on self assessment ideations now! Practice practice practice
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A3 - scaffold self-assessment, focus on what Ss have done, what learning/skill have been demonstrated, where they are going next
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A3 - scaffold self-assessment, focus on what Ss have done, what learning/skill have been demonstrated, where they are going next
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Late but I made it! I have a teacher cold (my first!).. is it weird that I love everything about my job even this cold?
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New curriculum should = new ways of communicating learning.
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Forgot new introduction: Heather J, formerly of , now from , new challenges, new opportunities!
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working on a template that includes Ss' Voice each term, which is pretty exciting.
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That's really cool. Seems to be that Ss' input is only going to be incl at end of yr for us
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I have a teacher cold too! Future topic? 😋
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A5: This term is all about building general self reflection & Name/Nurture. Next term we start targeting specific CC.
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Two words: formative assessment. Full stop.
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A6: It might be need to dive deep into CC definitions and then have students make connections throughout their portfolios.
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A6: Core comps can be broken down to 'I Can' statements for Ss. Video/photos great ways to revisit learning for self-assessment
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may need to do some trading soon?
Used to trade cards, now ed theories!
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Don’t forget to use the hashtag throughout the week to keep the conversation going!
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Thanks! Love this time of the week!
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A6: It might be neat to dive deep as group into CC definitions & then have students make connections throughout their portfolios.
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A5 using vocab, Ss reflect on core competencies each term, share in 3-way conference using written/oral reflection & artifacts
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A5 using vocab, Ss reflect on core competencies each term, share in 3-way conference using written/oral reflection & artifacts
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Pro Tip: Never hold a pencil in your mouth. S's for sure have sneezed on it.
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correction 😜 with descriptive feedback in formative assessment, there is no "stop"!
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No traitor here, just passionate advocate of s empowerment and progress! See ya Friday :)
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A6 Discuss with students to co-create their learning process to reflect core competencies
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using the portal has created a shared drive of communication & self-ass samples so that we can inspire one another.
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I think it would be rich conversations for students to have about what the CC profiles mean to them.
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Q7: Have you used “I CAN” statements to self-assess the core competencies? What else have you used?
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Q7: Have you used “I CAN” statements to self-assess the core competencies? What else have you used?
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I've "borrowed" these frequently! Some great sharing via and many other districts! https://t.co/pFW1rKQuyj
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using the portal has created a shared drive of communication & self-ass samples so that we can inspire one another.
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But general self-reflection, name/nurture is already the personal piece of CC.
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considered a work-in-progress? Maybe they'll look @ other examples & take feedback since it's a soft start year
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Yeehaw... Count me in. Who's going to start the GDoc for sharing?
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Especially if they're working towards them for their whole educational career!
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I'm hoping that since many of my students are familiar with the IB traits, we can translate it over to CCs easily.
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A6: cooperative groups.... s's teaching s's, differentiation for the desired our comes of the individual learner
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A6. Assess core competencies... meet or not meet. Most times they are exceeding. This is winning...
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I stand willingly correctly -so true!
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I also think the conversions that Ts have about the profiles are also powerful!
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What portal? How do I get in on that?
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.... I can.... I quests....
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Not sure. We've been a bit in the dark with assessment for the yr & each school seems to be doing different things...
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Know it's a work in progress, though. But Ts need to see what we're working with so we can settle in-term is 1/3 over!
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aren't kids capable of self assessment without edufying it? Over the years education has drummed this skill out of kids. Part 1
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Look in' for outcomes....
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A6: Students could decide how to show these competencies. They look different for everyone.
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It's private to SD72 T's. You have to have a login, but we luv sharing! I don't know how got them? DM me.
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I had a friend share a couple documents! no hacking!
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I would LOVE to spend one of our staff meetings dedicating discussion solely to assessment and core comps!
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education's obsession with marks is a symptom of our inability to assess our place in the world. Part 2
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A1 - record them reading and have them listen back to it following the text with a marker. Keep all year to display growth.
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that's got 2b tough. W/out knowing how Ss learning will b shared how do u collect the most meaningful artifacts?
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A simple rule that every teacher knows by heart. "It's smarter to be lucky than it's lucky to be smart"
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It's important to teach collab/com skills before we expect Ss to self-assess. Give Ss language and thinking to use.
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A7 - yes, "I can" statements as great discussion or writing prompt followed by examples and evidence generated by Ss
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A7 - yes, "I can" statements as great discussion or writing prompt followed by examples and evidence generated by Ss
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LOOOL!!! I never thought you hacked. haha!
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And welcome to Surrey ....yes no traitors, just having fun :-)
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Exactly. I'm fearful that reporting period will come and we'll fall short. :( Need to SEE how it looks & adjust for it
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Follow the people you have met in this chat - you will find they are the resource.
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staff meeting or collab time! This is worthy of quality time!
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A7: I CAN statements are esp helpful for young learners. Success criteria & learning targets help focus the learning
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our profession, our students, our parents have abandoned self assessment. It has no value, marks have replaced it. Part 3 - JMHO
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What assessment tools are others using? FG? MyBC? What's good for SBA for secondary?
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Every day: self-reg feedback, SRL practices, personal goal-setting a la P Dawson, setting bar high for all s
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A2- All subjects... Plus each term they write a few of their own report card comments based on my prompted questions.
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Last Question of the night! Q8: What resources do you recommend to look for new ideas/tools for student self-assessment?
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Last Question of the night! Q8: What resources do you recommend to look for new ideas/tools for student self-assessment?
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I have made a book that they will fill in every month of 3 I can statement and 1 I can't YET statement
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Brings us to where we are now - an existing drive to re-ignite SA. What do you think of that, or is it a lost cause?
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A8. Talk to Oh snap... GHO me.
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This is like industrial espionage! Let's share!
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Thank you for joining tonight!
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Absolutely. This, I am deeply concerned about.
And assessing CCs with a letter grade? Damaging to Ss, IMHO.
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Humour, the spice of life :) Tks, so glad to be part of
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Please join 2 weeks on October 16th at 7pm PST to discuss the topic Reflecting on Practice: when & what to change!
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I shared it last week, but the SD74 report cards make me so happy. Replace the Learner Traits w/CC? https://t.co/CqPSiaB1LI
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Selfassessment is a lost art, not a lost cause every child should intuitively B able 2 verbalize where they stand
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