#EngageChat Archive
#EngageChat is a weekly chat session moderated by @DavisWelcome that focuses on engagement in schools. Every Friday evening at 8:00 PM Eastern.
Friday May 20, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#engagechat
. Please check in with the group.
https://t.co/cHz5G5YDK5
BPiperJohnston
May 20 @ 8:01 PM EDT
#engagechat
Good Evening from VA!
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@BPiperJohnston
Welcome, Brandy!
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Amy_MacCrindle
May 20 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Amy here! Principal in Illinois!
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JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Winding up the week from Maryland with
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.
PrestonMcKellar
May 20 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Preston, Assistant Principal, Hopewell High, Checking in
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@Amy_MacCrindle
Welcome, Amy!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi Stuart from Auckland, New Zealand.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@JKatzaman
Welcome, Jim!
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kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Kelley here, Principal in Maine
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@PrestonMcKellar
Hey there, Preston!
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teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:05 PM EDT
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Teresa from NY joining for a bit.
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
Hey there, Stu!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@kelley_weiss
Hey there, Kelley!
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Prof Susan in IL happy to be able to join
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Greetings to all! Happy announcement: the new student success book is now out.
yeates_mark
May 20 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Is education itself gifted or the people doing it?
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@teresagross625
Hey there, friend!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
#engagechat
https://t.co/TjT6qrsWvn
WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Good evening everyone, Wayne from Jamaica. Educator.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:07 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
Hey there, my friend!
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ShamikaWomble
May 20 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Happy Friday all! Shamika from Michigan.
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teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
Hi! Haven't been able to join in a while. Hoping to learn.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
Hey there, my friend!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Question 1 coming up ....
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charissacole
May 20 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Principal from Birmingham AL
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Rdene915
May 20 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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hi :) Rachelle frm Pgh, happy Friday! I teach Spanish and French, Steam culture course too
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:09 PM EDT
@ShamikaWomble
Welcome, Shamika!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
@pgilders
Nice, love the beyond 140 line!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@Rdene915
Welcome, friend!
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Here's the link for the book:
https://t.co/agZSN7TdCI
Please let all new grads know about the book.
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https://t.co/q7fpFl2rJd
ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Hi, Lisa from Pittsburgh, moderator for
#gtchat
#gifted
#talented
Excited to see you're chatting about gifted education!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Q1: What does gifted education mean to you?
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
Not sure, are all students not gifted in one way or another?
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YQuinlan77
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Hi everyone Yvonne Assistant Principal from Sydney
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@ljconrad
Welcome!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
A1#engagechat For me, it's ensuring all students' special talents are advanced through education and learning.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@YQuinlan77
Welcome!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
Awesome!
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yeates_mark
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1. A place/environment where opportunities exist for following personal aims goals & dreams!
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teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Good Evening from Delaware
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! Hi
@DavisWelcome
. Hope everyone had a GREAT week.
MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Hi all! Kate, Staff Development Teacher from MD here.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@yeates_mark
Nice Mark, the edu has to be individualised and authentic.
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A1
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@teacher_city
Welcome, my friend!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Love this!
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https://t.co/IHqt7TrSRJ
yeates_mark
May 20 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1. A place/environment where opportunities exist for following personal aims goals & dreams!
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
My thoughts exactly! Every student has distinctive gifts, abilities where s/he can excel.
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https://t.co/FpejIKq0Jh
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
A1#engagechat For me, it's ensuring all students' special talents are advanced through education and learning.
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1) Gifted education is the meeting of unique needs; each student is different.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@MrsBradshawSDT
Hey there, Kate!
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PrestonMcKellar
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
A1) meeting the needs (extending and going well beyond) for all students. All Ss are gifted at something!!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
That's why IMO GAT centralised programmes are a lot of time and resource.
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A1
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Hi
#engagechat
friends Spiri from PA G&T, back from a nice walk to the golf course
https://t.co/Naqu7hePs9
teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
#EngageChat
A1: all Ss are challenged, respected and successful in learning and as people
JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 Getting selected for a gifted education is a privilege. Some students might take it for granted.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
@PrestonMcKellar
Amen!
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pgilders
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1: Allowing Ss time 2 grow& b pushed further in their strengths &interests. Should b available 2 all Ss, not test dependent.
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YQuinlan77
May 20 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 making curriculum adjustments to support the interests and needs of sts using frameworks like Blooms Digital Taxonomy
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@PrestonMcKellar
@DavisWelcome
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Couldn't agree more! Maybe just gifted outside the curriculum in school,still gifted!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@PrestonMcKellar
@DavisWelcome
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Couldn't agree more! Maybe just gifted outside the curriculum in school,still gifted!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@itsmeSpiri
Hey there, Spiri!
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MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: Looking at a student's needs and determining what programming will look like.Acceleration,enrichment, compacted courses etc
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Rdene915
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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A1 means all Ss have opps for learning, needs and interests are met, choices,
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@pgilders
Great point Pam, how do you test some talents, often very subjective! A1
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:15 PM EDT
@teresagross625
Yessss!
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1 Our job: help every student discover their latent gifts&passions, help them develop their abilities forgreat lives of service
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1) Gifted Ed is not "extra busy work for the smart kid"
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@Rdene915
Very nice!
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BPiperJohnston
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1: taking kids to the next level and beyond
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Powerful!
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https://t.co/rFscdbTJdi
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A1) Gifted Ed is not "extra busy work for the smart kid"
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
Well put, I've been seen as gifted
#edtech
reality lots of work, failure but resilient! Talent needs aptitude.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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Or isolation and complete agency either!
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All Ss need social ed as well IMO,
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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Or isolation and complete agency either!
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All Ss need social ed as well IMO,
ShamikaWomble
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Understanding all students are unique and challenging them to meet and exceed their educational expectations.
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WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A1: Gifted education is a specialized branch that focuses on students with exceptional abilities to facilitate their learning
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Question 2 coming up ...
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Amy_MacCrindle
May 20 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A1: Providing challenging opportunities for Ss to problem solve and grow!
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https://t.co/pwf0kmTzMw
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Q1: What does gifted education mean to you?
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@ShamikaWomble
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Well put Shamika, I believe students have a gift or talent, no student gifted in one go!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@ShamikaWomble
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Well put Shamika, I believe students have a gift or talent, no student gifted in one go!
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
@PrestonMcKellar
@DavisWelcome
Stuart, maybe schools need to change to provide ways for all students to develop?
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HelenWilt
May 20 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Helen from Houston popping in late! Hi all!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@Amy_MacCrindle
Gifted Education does mean to me increased agency and choice for all students.
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:19 PM EDT
YES
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https://t.co/5m0g1RjaUT
teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
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A1: Ss may be gifted outside traditional academic areas (music, art, mechanics, etc.)
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q2: How can you identify giftedness in a student?
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
@PrestonMcKellar
@DavisWelcome
Yes so true.
https://t.co/qcGTnd9LNW
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1) Gifted education is not the sole domain of 'smart kids'; but
#2ekids
or talented kids as well.
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ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Hi! Cindy from VA checking in late.. 🎉
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pgilders
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
Some of these tests r barriers 2truly gifted Ss& 2 many programs r more 4 parent bragging rights then S growth.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
@teresagross625
Well put and needed to be said!
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kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1: it is engaging students at their own achievement level and guiding them to think on the next level.
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LauraGWillis
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Gifted education means finding a student's special area of passion/talent and providing opportunities to help them grow further.
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EdNavigation
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1: Gifted education is another "special need," which needs to be supported and monitored.
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PrestonMcKellar
May 20 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@teacher_city
@DavisWelcome
so so true - and treated as such - self fulfilling prophecies - help them gain confidence
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@pgilders
Yes, some Ss may be just be gifted at sitting tests! (only joking). Ps often harm their children this way.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@ReasonerCynthia
Welcome, my friend!
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love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A1:
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
-- it means challenge, innovation, and authenticity. Genuine world-shifting brilliance. :)
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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A2 In my experience, it reveals itself when you least suspect it and when you're not looking!
teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A1: Yes! I also believe we have 2 ensure more of our scholars in the inner city are identified.
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https://t.co/hI7r68utEE
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:11 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
A1#engagechat For me, it's ensuring all students' special talents are advanced through education and learning.
#EngageChat
teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
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A2: getting to know a student is the 1st step in building any relationship and learning about him/her
nironside13
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Hi! Nancy from PA checking in late.. I was enjoying a warm, dry evening outdoors - a nice change!
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JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2 Look for students for whom things seem to come natural, self-taught, test above peers.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@love5thgrade
Nice!
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2) Deeply curious about anything & everything, questions galore...and are motivated to learn, they have their own agenda
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2) Identification of gifted students should involve universal screening; multiple assessments beyond IQ tests.
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A1 Schools need to work w families&communities to provide integrative learning tht taps into students' latent strengths &opptys.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@teacher_city
Good point! I don't think GAT are linked to just one school or geographical location. Income doesn't link to GAT.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
So true!
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HelenWilt
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A1 Challenging a S, making them think, create. Extending lesson, asking what if we changed this? Not more work.
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kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2 when students are able to integrate and synthesize answers in an area that is belong their age development
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love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Coming in late. Victoria, 5th grade gifted from Florida.
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PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Tracy from Saskatchewan, Canada joining in late
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@teacher_city
Great point. Race, gender, age no indicator re GAT.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
@nironside13
Hey there, my friend!
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BPiperJohnston
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
#engagechat
A2: Being aware of all students' skills, not just grades but seeing the potential of a student to excel in an area.
PrestonMcKellar
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
#EngageChat
have to tap out early - enjoyed chat and will review later
nironside13
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2: Giftedness manifests in different ways, but usually in the Ss with a unique approach to problem solving.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
So true!
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https://t.co/neesGiTJSG
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A2) Deeply curious about anything & everything, questions galore...and are motivated to learn, they have their own agenda
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ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A1: Gifted Ed is having the T serve more as a facilitator of learning than a dispenser of knowledge
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@BPiperJohnston
Great point Brandy, this requires schools to work back from student interests and learning frames.
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A2
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2b) G&T struggle w/ growth mindset & taking risks, they don't like to be wrong
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MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A2: I think it may present itself in different ways for different Ss. Need to get to know your Ss as learners & people.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@ljconrad
Yesss!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
Amen!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
@ReasonerCynthia
Brilliant point! Love the focus on learning not teaching.
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Rdene915
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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A2 learn about Ss build reltships, understand their interest, needs,skills, learn their backgrd, thru obs &testing
WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2: Gifted students are intrinsically motivated and display a passion to find out things and explore.They think outside the box.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@HelenWilt
Excellent!
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teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A1: This is so true
@EdNavigation
. Sometimes the student not engaged is the one not being identified.
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https://t.co/iVZqidR1ol
EdNavigation
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1: Gifted education is another "special need," which needs to be supported and monitored.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@itsmeSpiri
Or to be singled out, Best Music student in my experience was terrified of playing life in case mistake made.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@Rdene915
Absolutely!
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2c) Renzulli Model focuses on motivation, Academics & creativity as major areas in identifying gifted
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edu_taraw
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Tara Woodard from Wilson County Schools- joining late!
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steph_rw_cyrus
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
#EngageChat
~ gifted ed is about meeting the needs of learners - pushing Ss towards optimal growth & development
https://t.co/d9tut9JWD5
BPiperJohnston
May 20 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1: taking kids to the next level and beyond
#engagechat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Very nice!
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https://t.co/vWd9hOFjPG
kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A2 when students are able to integrate and synthesize answers in an area that is belong their age development
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A2) Recent research indicates gifted identification should rely less on recommendations; need color-blind, SES-blind assessment.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@teacher_city
@EdNavigation
Further to this, some learning contexts don't allow any GAT expression or visibility IMO.
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A1
love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A2: Giftedness manifests In quirky, misunderstood ways at times. We have to see into the unique wiring of their minds. :)
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TTMobile_us
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:26 PM EDT
@love5thgrade
Welcome!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
Hey there!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#engagechat
Imagine if we thought of all students everyday of being GAT.
#mindshift
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#engagechat
Imagine if we thought of all students everyday of being GAT.
#mindshift
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@BPiperJohnston
So true!
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
Absolutely Stuart! Loved your most recent post by the way!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Love this!!!!
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https://t.co/EMqVK5VFzG
ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A1: Gifted Ed is having the T serve more as a facilitator of learning than a dispenser of knowledge
#engagechat
RewardingEdu
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
GiftedEd always means enrichment over acceleration. Give Ss strategies to explore further & delve deeper. Rich, profound content
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@itsmeSpiri
Thanks for the kind words, got a lot tve feedback re that one! LOL
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2 Where students are gifted, there is a special light that emanates, work not only easy but like a jewel; it shines forth.
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love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2:
#EngageChat
: Gifted individuals are not just presented with things and satisfied. They are innately curious about functionalities.
teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A1: Love this
@LauraGWillis
!There has 2 be a fair & equitable process 4 identifying students.Critical!
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https://t.co/GAJJRgX9kI
LauraGWillis
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Gifted education means finding a student's special area of passion/talent and providing opportunities to help them grow further.
#engagechat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@edu_taraw
Hey there, Tara!
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teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Wouldn't that be amazing??????
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https://t.co/Wx48GRNxt0
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:27 PM EDT
#engagechat
Imagine if we thought of all students everyday of being GAT.
#mindshift
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@RewardingEdu
Nice post Robert, does not mean more work but instead greater choice, depth and expansion IMO
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youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Severena joining from Montana
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Question 3 coming up ...
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@teresagross625
And it'd be free just an attitude and perception change starting with Ts, we never know!
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DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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'Gifted' never met a middle class parent who has anything but a gifted child. Truly awful concept in education.
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@youtheduteach
Welcome!
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ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A2:Gifted Ss are innately curious, question, prob solvers, often hold adult convos, don't always follow rules, bore easily
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pgilders
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Truth! My son, gifted in math, grew to hate subject, always pushed to go faster not deeper.
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RewardingEdu
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
GiftedEd always means enrichment over acceleration. Give Ss strategies to explore further & delve deeper. Rich, profound content
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@BPiperJohnston
LOL So true, one of top Eng students always argued with Ts re LIT, wanted him, gone, I wanted him in my class.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q3: What role does parent engagement play in the gifted education process?
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May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
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May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@BPiperJohnston
Often misbehaviour is out of pure boredom or frustration with being inhibited IMO.
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#edtech
#edchat
#engagechat
https://t.co/Zl7g372VuT
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:32 PM EDT
#engagechat
'Gifted' plays to idea that ability is fixed, even genetic. Totally destructive concept.
DennisDill
May 20 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@LauraGWillis
too bad many times it means slapping the Lego robots down and saying this is gifted enrichment class.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
#engagechat
A3 IMO the less the better, let student grow their talent, gift without pressure, unrealistic demands.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
#engagechat
A3 IMO the less the better, let student grow their talent, gift without pressure, unrealistic demands.
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ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A2: Gifted Ss often aren't the T pets or do-gooders. Hard worker does not equal gifted.
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: Very important. My child was suicidal b/c I didn't know he wasn't being stimulated. Ps must know all needs.
#EngageChat
nironside13
May 20 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3: Parents need education & to learn to build in opportunities for their gifted kid to fail.. I had to learn the hard way! 😮
#EngageChat
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Hello from,
#VT
, everyone. Q3: parents can encourage kids to tinker, challenge themselves, problem solve, connect, be creative.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Wow! Powerful!
#EngageChat
https://t.co/TCXPEtoV4M
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: Very important. My child was suicidal b/c I didn't know he wasn't being stimulated. Ps must know all needs.
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A2: When Ps know their child needs more, they are more willing to sign papers, find tutors etc.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@nironside13
Love the idea of Ps needing ed, often they mean well but do so much damage, A3
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teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Love this
@BrilldeRamirez
.
#EngageChat
https://t.co/i4syGyRdwt
BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2 Where students are gifted, there is a special light that emanates, work not only easy but like a jewel; it shines forth.
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3 Need team approach.All on same team supporting growth/development of each student for life of service to community/self/world
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Yes! They are used to ideas coming easily. It's easier to be right than accept challenge.
@itsmeSpiri
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
nironside13
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
yes! My son's gifted teacher taught me that! Was so hard, but made him much happier & more courageous
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
#EngageChat
Remember each student has unique needs. Can't generalize all the same.
JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A3 Parents should be kids' biggest cheerleaders. Not stage mothers, but instil appreciation in youngsters for accomplishments.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
@nironside13
So true!
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:35 PM EDT
A2: Ts need to help Ps understand that gifted doesn't mean a Ss needs more work, just more brain stimulating work.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
Nice point, ideally GAT is kept far way from formalised testing IMO.
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pgilders
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Role Ps play differs from role should b played. Help Ps go byond pushing 4label &support deep learning.
#engagechat
https://t.co/3zALh1VVSo
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q3: What role does parent engagement play in the gifted education process?
#engagechat
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3) Ps should collaborate, provide support & advocate on behalf of child, adv. learning takes time, practice, and patience
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love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: A lot. Today a friend told me about her son's fascination with marine biology since age 2. She never dismissed it. :)
#EngageChat
ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: P role in gifted Ed process should be =to that of sped process or any other exceptionality-referral, questionnaire, meeting
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DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
#engagechat
Do professional teachers really call students 'Gifted'? What's wrong with you?
Rdene915
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
A3 varies, some Ps push Ss in 1 directn, less Ss choice for their interests, but also protect Ss to guar opps
Amy_MacCrindle
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: It's essential! Ss can't only be "learning" at school... It's a partnership!
#EngageChat
https://t.co/r4GAwZOyO4
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q3: What role does parent engagement play in the gifted education process?
#engagechat
teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
So true
@teresagross625
!
#EngageChat
This is critical.
https://t.co/UG4AliC0F1
teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#EngageChat
A2: getting to know a student is the 1st step in building any relationship and learning about him/her
youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: Parents should be there to help guide them, not do the work for them. Parents involvement should be at all age levels.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@Non_Toxic_Kids
Welcome! So true!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@nironside13
Nice often students with their talent are too scared to shine due to feeling the odd one out.
#engagechat
EdLead670
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3. Advocacy, first and foremost.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@EdLead670
And support, most often of the emotional kind.
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3: Yes! The power of failing-- students learn grit, perseverance, motivation.
@nironside13
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Partnership is critical!
#EngageChat
https://t.co/PppeguHnwA
Amy_MacCrindle
May 20 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A3: It's essential! Ss can't only be "learning" at school... It's a partnership!
#EngageChat
https://t.co/r4GAwZOyO4
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q3: What role does parent engagement play in the gifted education process?
#engagechat
youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3: Building a better community between educators, parents, and students.
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3: Ps need to share w/Ts whats going on at home. Every time summer approached I had to find things for him to do.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@youtheduteach
Great point. The children are individual, not re-casts of their Ps.
#engagechat
A3
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3b) Ps should have relationship and partnership with Ts and school admin about educating highly advanced learners
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3) Parent is child's first advocate. Also, a partner in education; not the foe.
#EngageChat
PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3: Parents can help their child develop a growth mindset, to exceed curriculum expectations
#EngageChat
https://t.co/W6cP6L3p07
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Q3: What role does parent engagement play in the gifted education process?
#engagechat
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Thank you! Also that education is something where you reach, strive, push, not handed to you.
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
Nice, I think the curriculum in HSs does very little to release GAT.
#engagechat
A3
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A3: My son would go into deep depressions come end of April & I had 2 subscribe 2 every science magz i cud find. watch him.
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kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A3 we need to engage the Ps with the Ss and help them to support their Ss. Provide resources and education so they can advocate
#EngageChat
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
#engagechat
A3 Parents love this, if their kid is called 'gifted', everyone else thinks it's an abomination - and it is
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@EdLead670
Amen!
#EngageChat
WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3: The majority of gifted students have a very strong parental & support system in place. This scaffolds & propels them 2 excel
#EngageChat
ShamikaWomble
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3: Ps shld encourage the Ss but be careful not to put unnecessary pressure or demands on child that may actually backfire.
#engagechat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@Non_Toxic_Kids
@DavisWelcome
Eaxctly, students should see that school supports their life and not the other way aroud.
#EngageChat
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3c) Some Ps assume that schools will know about their child and about the edu. opportunities that exist to maxi. potential
#EngageChat
choosito
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Do you know of a school in need of resources? Sign up to help at
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Agree, this is some of our most important work! Developing growth mindset no matter what level a student is.
@PrincipalMrsDG
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
#engagechat
I agree and long as the Ss have choice and freedom in the journey.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
#engagechat
I agree and long as the Ss have choice and freedom in the journey.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Question 4 coming up ....
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A3: My son asked for a DSM IV 4 his 16th B-day would watch surgeries on line. I wish I had Ts telling me what to do. I was alone.
#EngageChat
steph_rw_cyrus
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
#EngageChat
A3: I hope parents work as advocates and partners with Ts & others to understand the needs of the Ss.
english_roy
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A3: Parents of gifted students can help their kids learn how to engage ideas that don't come naturally. Teach them to stretch.
#EngageChat
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Yes! Like Dewey said, education IS life!
@stuartkellynz
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
EdLead670
May 20 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
@DavisWelcome
True. It can be difficult for these Ss to achieve growth on end of grade tests too.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@steph_rw_cyrus
Nice Stephanie and let the Ss choose their destinations and speed!
#engagechat
A3
love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A3:
#EngageChat
: Ps should LISTEN, encourage, and have faith in their kids' aspirations. Find "routes" to guide them with wisdom and choice
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
#engagechat
The giftedare given their 'gift' from who or what. Answer that question before using such a dangerous term.
DennisDill
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
From my perspective the "gifted" program is too restrictive ... No creativity heck most of my gifted kids can't read a ruler
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@Non_Toxic_Kids
@DavisWelcome
Nice, education is just the curriculum!
#EngageChat
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Should also seek other Ps of children with advanced capabilities and share ideas and concerns
#EngageChat
MelanyStowe
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A3: Parent engagement plays a role in any meaningful & successful
#k12
program.
#EngageChat
HelenWilt
May 20 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Agree. Abhor GT pullout programs. All Ss r talented in something. Find those talents & challenge our Ss
#engagechat
https://t.co/O3Nu11EjPG
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:32 PM EDT
#engagechat
'Gifted' plays to idea that ability is fixed, even genetic. Totally destructive concept.
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3: some parents pressure excelling Ss too much + kids are afraid to fail + rise to challenges.
@WayneCamo
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3 Lived all this. Kicked out of HS at 16. Addict. Then took SAT 97% math Parents & few Ts never gave up tho. Meant a lot to me.
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3: He went thru school so fast Associates Degree at 17 y.o. & now no idea what he wants to B. Too much too fast.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q4: Why do some students not like to be looked at as gifted around their friends?
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@HelenWilt
Likewise all it does is get the students more comfortable and singled out for no real gain.
#EngageChat
teacher_city
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
#EngageChat
@DavisWelcome
I wanted to share this with you.
https://t.co/hdMBKkjvi0
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@steph_rw_cyrus
Yessss!
#EngageChat
lesleywprice
May 20 @ 8:43 PM EDT
SEN kids are also gifted
#EngageChat
https://t.co/ekwsognYFt
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:38 PM EDT
#engagechat
A3 Parents love this, if their kid is called 'gifted', everyone else thinks it's an abomination - and it is
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Provide structure and boundaries for behavior, G&T Ss can be obsessed and fixated on things
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:43 PM EDT
@Non_Toxic_Kids
@DavisWelcome
Sorry this should have said education is not just the curriculum! #
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A3: When finally go him "help" was unable to help w/HWI didn't know how 2 do the math ha! Stressful. Other Ps didn't understand
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@itsmeSpiri
#engagechat
And space for expression and exploration, safe but challenging.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@itsmeSpiri
#engagechat
And space for expression and exploration, safe but challenging.
#EngageChat
steph_rw_cyrus
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
#EngageChat
-- Love the mention of parents NOT being the foe! Bring them in as partners- we need ALL parent support
https://t.co/y3Rw9k3ax1
ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3) Parent is child's first advocate. Also, a partner in education; not the foe.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@steph_rw_cyrus
Nice, the more they understand, the less they'll get in the way.
#EngageChat
DennisDill
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A4 gifted =different ... Few want that label in MS ... Same stigma as being in the remedial class
#EngageChat
YQuinlan77
May 20 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Q4 sadly there is a social stigma to being 'different'. People understand 'average'.
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4) Just chatted about Stigma of Giftedness at
#gtchat
this week. Transcript:
https://t.co/2JKUuiDHJF
#EngageChat
nironside13
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@teacher_city
@DavisWelcome
@_jeffguo
so glad you brought up the question of equity & access to gifted Ed. Many kids left out!
#EngageChat
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
learning is not linear, so labels should not be fixed, either.
#EngageChat
EdLead670
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@teacher_city
@DavisWelcome
@_jeffguo
Thank you for the article!
#EngageChat
kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4 No one wants to be seen as different or that they are any better than their peers. Their friends may not accept them
#EngageChat
MelanyStowe
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4: If
#k12
was individualized, we could do away with labels like "gifted." Labels vs. appropriate/timely instruction.
#EngageChat
english_roy
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4: Kids want to fit in the norm established by their peers. To be outside this accepted middle risks ridicule.
#EngageChat
JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4 So-called gifted students might be mocked by classmates & friends. They can be easy targets for bullying at school & online.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@Non_Toxic_Kids
Yes and GAT can come out and go, ebb and flow, does take work to make GAT a reality.
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@steph_rw_cyrus
TY for saying this. I didn't know how to help my son. I was not gifted.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@YQuinlan77
So true!
#EngageChat
DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
#engagechat
'Gifted' programmes just old fossils hanging around in schools that have poor CPD.
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Yes, want to feel part of something! RT
@DennisDill
A4 gifted =different ... Few want that label in MS ...
#EngageChat
"
teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
#EngageChat
A4: makes them feel like they stand out when they want to fit in
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@Ms_PFlynn
@steph_rw_cyrus
#engagechat
Don't be so hard on yourself, no person is completely gifted!
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@Ms_PFlynn
@steph_rw_cyrus
#engagechat
Don't be so hard on yourself, no person is completely gifted!
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@kelley_weiss
Great point!
#EngageChat
PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A4: Many students - gifted or not - don't like to be labelled.
#EngageChat
https://t.co/0F6uD5cU9d
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q4: Why do some students not like to be looked at as gifted around their friends?
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A4: My son's friends thought he didn't like them, he was lonely sometimes. He wanted to be normal.
#EngageChat
youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A4: Ss fear being seen as "different" no matter how they define it. We should be encouraging our students to be DIFFERENT!
#EngageChat
kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@DonaldClark
If a classroom is differentiated properly then all Ss can shine and feel like they belong. Pull out is destructive
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@MelanyStowe
Nice!
#EngageChat
DennisDill
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I don't care if you're gifted - average - low ... I'm going to challenge you ... Academically and creatively
#EngageChat
Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I see this too! Being challenged to them is a threat to their successful status.
@ShamikaWomble
@WayneCamo
@DavisWelcome
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
You got it!
#EngageChat
VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Friendships are developed by finding common ground (sameness) gifted can be hyper alert to differences
#EngageChat
HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A3: Parents can help their child develop a growth mindset, to exceed curriculum expectations
#EngageChat
�� MORE >>
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HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A3) Parent is child's first advocate. Also, a partner in education; not the foe.
#EngageChat
MORE >>
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A4 Oooh...6th grade spelling:"brilliant:Miss Brill is brilliant." I then stopped studying until college
#EngageChat
https://t.co/Aya0GKIfND
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q4: Why do some students not like to be looked at as gifted around their friends?
#EngageChat
HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Question 4 coming up ....
#EngageChat
MORE >>
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HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#engagechat
I agree and long as the Ss have choice and freedom in the journey.
#EngageChat
MORE >>
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HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
#engagechat
I agree and long as the Ss have choice and freedom in the journey.
#EngageChat
MORE >>
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HilaryBills2
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Do you know of a school in need of resources? Sign up to help at
#engagechat
#edtech
#edchat
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ShamikaWomble
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A4: Social stigma of being "diff". No child wants that. Students want/need to fit in with their peers.
#engagechat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Because "gifted" is so misunderstood by Ps, Ts and most importantly of all Ss, has stigma to it!
#engagechat
A4
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A4: My son reading 11th grade literature in 4th grade. They skipped him 2 middle school that yr. he lost his friends. He cried.
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@english_roy
You got it!
#EngageChat
itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A4) Some G&T Ss have social issues, don't relate to others in their age group, interactions seem awkward, considered know it all
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@Ms_PFlynn
Expand not advance, I was put up a year, uni at 17 too immature socially to cope!
#EngageChat
PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A4: For some, being smart isn't cool. (Do kids even use the word cool anymore? Lol)
#EngageChat
https://t.co/0F6uD5cU9d
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q4: Why do some students not like to be looked at as gifted around their friends?
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
This big kid does! LOL
#EngageChat
ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A4:Gifted Ss are misunderstood by many-including peers. Gifted=weird Most Ss want to fit in with the masses, not stick out.
#EngageChat
love5thgrade
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A4: Honestly bc of stereotypes and misperceptions. What media makes it seem like...
#EngageChat
Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A4: So much more to gifted challenges. He was hearing dirty jokes he didn't understand. He was so innocent then.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A4 Unless it's gifted at sport or music, seems other forms of GAT not cool in today's world- bizarre!
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@Ms_PFlynn
Thanks for sharing this, Patti!
#EngageChat
MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4: Possibly the stigma of the word "gifted." May feel like they don't fit in, others may have to high expectations of them.
#EngageChat
kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@VictoriaCurry77
it can also put up barriers between Ss that would have been great friends/support for each other
#EngageChat
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Question 5 coming up .....
#EngageChat
JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:50 PM EDT
@Ms_PFlynn
My youngster was relieved when school psychologist recommended he not skip kindergarten to first grade.
#EngageChat
WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4: A sense of belonging is very important during this phase and as a result gifted student may not wish to be singled out.
#EngageChat
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
#engagechat
Or removed from their peers. Shouldn't be isolated due to their ability.
#engagechat
A4
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
#engagechat
Or removed from their peers. Shouldn't be isolated due to their ability.
#engagechat
A4
spencer_claudia
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A4 They don't want to be treated differently. Gifted Ss want others to see them for who they outside of aig activities.
#EngageChat
LauraGWillis
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
"Gifted" can be associated with an elevated status in some ways. Ss feel they can't make mistakes, show weakness.
#engagechat
Amy_MacCrindle
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A4: Thinking about MS it's fear of being different and peer pressure.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q4: Why do some students not like to be looked at as gifted around their friends?
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@english_roy
Wonderful, yet the gifts of the mind last so much longer!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q5: How can we ensure that gifted learners are challenged to meet their full potential?
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
Yw just remember vividly. see him now 2nd year at UVA cud grad. next yr if wanted. Has no clue what he wants 2fast
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
G&T may feel like they always have to win, or be the best, some very competitive & don't handle losing well = no fun 4 others
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darylhowardphd
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A4)Depending on the age, belonging in social peer group is major. G&T may feel foreign & also req greater non-social commitments
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Look @ our leaders + movies! Being smart can be VERY hard for a kid. RT
@PrincipalMrsDG
A4: For some, being smart isn't cool.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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Ensure they have the freedom to explore & make sure that they understand failure is key to growth! A5
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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Ensure they have the freedom to explore & make sure that they understand failure is key to growth! A5
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kelley_weiss
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
@WayneCamo
We isolate a student and we limit the growth they could receive through classroom interaction
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A4 Challenge in univ for Ss to learn how to integrate, work w whoever they need to work w projects teams
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english_roy
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4: Kids want to fit in the norm established by their peers. To be outside this accepted middle risks ridicule.
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teresagross625
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
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Have a wonderful weekend! Thanks for the chat!
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Amen!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@DavisWelcome
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Ensure they have the freedom to explore & make sure that they understand failure is key to growth! A5
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@kelley_weiss
@WayneCamo
Yea and then try to say it's for their own good...yeah right!
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RewardingEdu
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A4 The anti-intellectualism of our culture stigmatizes any kids who try & succeed in school. Ts must counter that awful message!
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VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A4. No one begins a friendship or social circle by saying-you know how I'm different from you.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@VictoriaCurry77
Awesome!
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WayneCamo
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
We live in a cruel world. It is sad these things happen. Gifted students face bullying in addition to isolation.
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
For all kids! RT
@DennisDill
I don't care if you're gifted, average, low .I'm going to challenge you.Academically + creatively
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steph_rw_cyrus
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
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- really nice resource! Thanks for sharing with the group
https://t.co/xRaMrdWD4b
ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A4) Just chatted about Stigma of Giftedness at
#gtchat
this week. Transcript:
https://t.co/2JKUuiDHJF
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youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5: Individualized instruction. Community Partnerships. Involving Ss in the learning process, giving meaning to their education.
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DonaldClark
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
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A4 Because 'gifted' is an inappropriate label used by professionals who should know better.
stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
@YQuinlan77
Excellent point!
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MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5: Opportunities for choice when it comes to enrichment.
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spencer_claudia
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5 Differentiate their instruction. Challenge them with activities that cause them to investigate and draw conclusions.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Yesss!
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youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5: Individualized instruction. Community Partnerships. Involving Ss in the learning process, giving meaning to their education.
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A5) New ESSA mandates PD in gifted under Title 2. Could go long way in dispelling myths. Little undergrad work in gifted.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@DonaldClark
Unless applied to EVERY single student! #
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BrilldeRamirez
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Go Dennis! Everyone does need to be pushed. All do need to learn that struggle is part of life.
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DennisDill
May 20 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I don't care if you're gifted - average - low ... I'm going to challenge you ... Academically and creatively
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VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A5. Be attuned to the learner as a person- ask; "how's it going" Carl Anderson style
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:55 PM EDT
This is great!
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https://t.co/wJTQxQwNmv
MrsBradshawSDT
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5: Opportunities for choice when it comes to enrichment.
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Non_Toxic_Kids
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Especially in the empathy + leadership dept! RT
@kelley_weiss
We isolate student + limit the growth from classroom interaction
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Very nice, Claudia!
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spencer_claudia
May 20 @ 8:54 PM EDT
A5 Differentiate their instruction. Challenge them with activities that cause them to investigate and draw conclusions.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
@BrilldeRamirez
@DennisDill
Yes, any students rise to expectation.
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5) Curriculum based on development and ability far more effective than curriculum based on age
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PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5: help them develop a growth mindset - dedication, hard work, resiliency, a love for learning
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https://t.co/h9hz66NDCk
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q5: How can we ensure that gifted learners are challenged to meet their full potential?
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5) Each G&T S is different, what works for one may not work for others
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A5: His Ts didn't like when he asked Qs, they took it personal, thought he was challenging them. He was just trying to learn.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@PrincipalMrsDG
Also point out that potential counts as a start that's all!
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VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A5. All human gifts cannot be boiled down to a data point. We must think of expansion in all ways
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ReasonerCynthia
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A5: It is our responsibility to meet the unique needs of ALL Ss-not just gifted-thru differentiation, PBL, interest surveys, etc.
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JKatzaman
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A5 Each student -- adult, too -- has different buttons to push that get them going. Don't take a blanket approach to teach them.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
@WayneCamo
@kelley_weiss
@DavisWelcome
P empowerment yes but not overpowerment.
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A5: I wished Ts would have not been insecure & looked up answers if they didn't know. He admired his Ts, he loved them.
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Amen!
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5) Each G&T S is different, what works for one may not work for others
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ljconrad
May 20 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Yes!
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5) Curriculum based on development and ability far more effective than curriculum based on age
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VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
What about curriculum based on interest or self made challenges?
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itsmeSpiri
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5) Curriculum based on development and ability far more effective than curriculum based on age
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@VictoriaCurry77
Awesome.Same with expressions of GAT, some can't exist in school expected context.
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darylhowardphd
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
This fits A5. S's won't run from the gifted challenge whn the learning feels connected to their purpose
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https://t.co/oxFQXz8PBU
LauraGWillis
May 20 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Gifted education means finding a student's special area of passion/talent and providing opportunities to help them grow further.
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youtheduteach
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5: "We need to teach our Ss how to think, NOT what to think."
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5: In 2nd gr. my son forced me to P/T conf. said mom, I want you to meet the smartest woman I know. HA! his Teacher. <3
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@VictoriaCurry77
Or journey-focused over destinations?
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english_roy
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5: Gifted students love being challenged intellectually as well as personally. Full engagement leads to gains in both areas.
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steph_rw_cyrus
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Love the mention of GROWTH mindset and resilience! Great keys.
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PrincipalMrsDG
May 20 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A5: help them develop a growth mindset - dedication, hard work, resiliency, a love for learning
#engagechat
https://t.co/h9hz66NDCk
DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Q5: How can we ensure that gifted learners are challenged to meet their full potential?
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ShamikaWomble
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A5: Challenge them to think and come out of their comfort zones.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@DonaldClark
Never been a fan!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@youtheduteach
Very nice!
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Ms_PFlynn
May 20 @ 8:59 PM EDT
A5: All I know is in 3rd grade they pulled him out of class & taught him chess. They tried. That's all mattered 2 me.
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
@DonaldClark
I tell all my Ss they're gifted, that's why they're in my class!
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DavisWelcome
May 20 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you for your great participation this evening!
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VictoriaCurry77
May 20 @ 8:59 PM EDT
@stuartkellynz
truth!!!
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stuartkellynz
May 20 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@VictoriaCurry77
Awesome.Same with expressions of GAT, some can't exist in school expected context.
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