#espechat Archive
Tuesday February 9, 2016
8:00 PM EST
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to the
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this evening. My name is Rich I will be moderating tonight.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
Welcome to the
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this evening. My name is Rich I will be moderating tonight.
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:00 PM EST
Who do we have joining the chat this evening?
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MrPicha_PE
Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
Derek from warm and sunny AZ!
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MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
Mr. Csajko here. Hey Rich!
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
Hi Rich! Stephanie here from Southern California :)
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
@MrPicha_PE
Welcome Derek!
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dfeister
Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
Dede from Va
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:01 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Welcome Ryan!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
@smsandino
Welcome this evening!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
@dfeister
Welcome this evening!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:02 PM EST
We will be using the Q and A format this evening. Please add the Q# and
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
Tonight topic is “Rotation in
#PhysED
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:03 PM EST
We will talk about each subject for 7-10 minutes then move to the next topic.
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:04 PM EST
Our goal this spring is to develop some common language between
#physed
professionals
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
Anybody else here for the
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this evening? Or is everybody shopping for valentines day?
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
Are we ready for the topic tonight?
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dfeister
Feb 9 @ 8:05 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Uh oh when's Valentine's Day?
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
@rich_wiles
oh yeaaaa!!!
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
Judy from Annapolis, MD here For our session on "how the world turns"
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
Q1. How do you define Rotation?
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
Seth from South Lake Tahoe, CA
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:06 PM EST
@smartintahoe
Welcome this evening.
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MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: movement around an axis or center point
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1 the action of turning on an axis/center
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:09 PM EST
A1. turning around a center or an axis as defined by
@PEDL_K5
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
Great power point to explain Body rotation
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https://t.co/f4Y8JgqsEN
https://t.co/3Iz7O2d7qs
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
Well it looks like the everybody has a similar definition for rotation.
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Let move to question #2
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
Great Image!!!
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https://t.co/k20wmWsi6L
SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:10 PM EST
Great power point to explain Body rotation
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https://t.co/f4Y8JgqsEN
https://t.co/3Iz7O2d7qs
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
Q2. What skills use Rotation during their application? (could be 2 different Q’s)
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:11 PM EST
Q2. What skills use Rotation during their application?
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dfeister
Feb 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A2, serving vball, OHT ,
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:12 PM EST
Let's swing for some examples.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2. Many skills use rotation- here is ex. in "Sagittal Plane-Back Arial
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https://t.co/AY3FQhek66
MrPicha_PE
Feb 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2 many skills. Overhand throw, forehand strike, and more
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2 throwing, using implements such as racquets, paddles, bats, yoga poses, defending, gosh there's so much!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:13 PM EST
@dfeister
Using Judy's picture what planes are traveled through with overhand throwing?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2. Batting and other skills use transverse plane
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https://t.co/liCDw2wT1w
MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
A2: Gymnastics, Striking with an implement, and most movements that involve shoulder movement
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LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
Are we talking rotation of a propelled object or rotation of the body?
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:14 PM EST
@smsandino
Nice examples.
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LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
Looks like both.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:15 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Most of those skills are in the frontal plane
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
@LynnHefele
We can talk about both since they hit different standards from
@SHAPE_America
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MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
Not necessarily when it comes to gymnastics
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2. Her's an ex. of Frontal Plane
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https://t.co/N3l452pted
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:16 PM EST
@MrCsajko
Can you give some examples from gymnastics
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
@LynnHefele
I think we can differentiate body and projectile by using the term Spin
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MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
@rich_wiles
certain rolls can use different planes of the body
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:17 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
I should have let you moderate with all these cool pictures this evening with examples.
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
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Hello Friends sorry I am jumin in late. I just got home from work. I'll read and catch up.
LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
So we are talking about body rotation, correct?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:18 PM EST
@rich_wiles
The power point gives great examples
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https://t.co/f4Y8JgqsEN
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:19 PM EST
Question #3 coming soon.
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rich_wiles
- Moderator
Feb 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
Q3. What cues help your students understand Rotation?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:20 PM EST
@LynnHefele
@rich_wiles
Let's discuss each of Lynn's concepts one at a time
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LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
Having trouble tch my Ss timing of throwing rotation-hip, shoulders- anyone have cues?
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:21 PM EST
A2: rolls,tumbles, kicking, striking, shooting a basketball, pitching, tricks on skates,skis etc, dance
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3. Curl, Tuck, Roll, Tense core, Think about a swing or pendulum
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:22 PM EST
A3 when throwing overhand sometimes I'll say pinky to opposite hip
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
@LynnHefele
Alway start with opposite side facing target, allows for oppositional step and shoulder rotation
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:23 PM EST
A3 backhand striking, pull paddle across body like you're about to say pledge of allegiance
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MrPicha_PE
Feb 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
A3 I always stress the importance of starting with side orientation
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:24 PM EST
@LynnHefele
IMO rotation should begin when muscles are fully loaded until the tension is released object is struck, thrown, kicked
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@LynnHefele
Nuts and Bolts has great breakdown of the skills. Nice description of movements.
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LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:25 PM EST
They r stepping in opposition w/side 2 target but rotate whole body then throw Not really taking advantage of rotation.
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Frustrated
LynnHefele
Feb 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
Sorry halftime over, sons playing basketball will catch up later.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
@LynnHefele
emphasis the follow through, throwing hand to opposite knee
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Lauriep717
Feb 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
sorry to be late! Was watching my favorite goalie have his jersey retired in NJ!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:26 PM EST
Question #4 coming soon.
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
@LynnHefele
I always think of loaded like a spring, when spring is fully compressed release, when tension is maximized release
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:27 PM EST
Q4. Do you teach the different axis’s of rotation?
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
A3
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for little ones, Make a T, "listen" throwing arm elbow bend with ball to ear, twist (torque), and follow through across body
MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4: Yes, but ill be honest...mostly with striking a ball
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Lauriep717
Feb 9 @ 8:28 PM EST
A4 I haven't in the past but I am interested to hear how people do this
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4. When teaching a Cartwheel, use the frontal/vertical axis & explain what a Charts Wheel is, many dont know :(
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:29 PM EST
A4 not using the names of the diff planes and only for certain skills
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#guilty
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4. Discuss when in tumbling unit the most but don't always go into detail different units.
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:30 PM EST
A4: yes comes up most in tumbling log roll and pencil roll vs. forward roll etc. always emphasized importance of core strength
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
A4. I have also use Compass points to teach rotations/revolutions 90, 180, 360, 540-Get Ss to imagine circle has 360 pieces o pie
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dfeister
Feb 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
A4 I teach the concept of rotation, but never axis or planes
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1 day/week is hard to cover everything.
SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Same here, but we as experts need the knowledge to correct skill
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:31 PM EST
@smartintahoe
I normally start with the rolls then move into mid-axis rotations with cartwheel progression to full skills.
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
so awesome!!! Love the detail! Gotta up my game!
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
@smartintahoe
Been doing this for a long time
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:32 PM EST
@dfeister
I think that is sometimes reality. I have missed a class three times in two weeks due to snow.
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
A4 I teach rotations in gymnastics-180, 360, etc with jumping and turning and 1 foot turns.
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need new ideas
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:33 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
I sometimes think it is the fact that we don't have daily
#physed
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We have to choose topics/standards because of time.
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
Question #5 coming soon.
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dfeister
Feb 9 @ 8:34 PM EST
@rich_wiles
agree!
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
@fit2Bsmart
Show Ss a compass and it's 360 degrees- then imagine a pizza cut into 360 slices-also can use the door& mark floor 1/2
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
Q5. Speed is important component of Rotation when an implement is used, how do you explain this?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:35 PM EST
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like a protractor, since the door usually open 180 degrees
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:36 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@fit2Bsmart
Great link to CC Math too.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
@rich_wiles
Agree, Would like the classroom Ts to bring concepts into math &science to further develop concepts
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
RP Q5. Speed is important component of Rotation when an implement is used, how do you explain this?
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:37 PM EST
A5: the faster a striking implement moves the more potential force it can apply, assuming good contact
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5 in paddle tennis have ur paddle back & ready so you are ready 2 strike & rotate, if paddle is not back & ready won't have time
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:38 PM EST
A5. Speed or lack of speed (force applied too) will effect the contact the implement will make with projectile
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:39 PM EST
@smartintahoe
Nice job linking together our topics from Jan
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Gold Star
SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:40 PM EST
A5. speed applied can also be influenced by weight & length of implement
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:41 PM EST
Question #6 coming soon.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
A5. Implement can also rotate along it longitudinal or horizontal axis
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:42 PM EST
A5.
@SchmidJudy
Difference between short and long pole lacrosse stick when throwing at a goal.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
@rich_wiles
you got it, thats why players adjust their shooting strings
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:43 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
nice
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https://t.co/oFRmpFtomf
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
Q6. Explain how and when you would need to assess Rotation?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:44 PM EST
@smartintahoe
Like it, we need to use this in the upper grade and have then teach their math Teacher
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MrCsajko
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Feb 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
A6: Bam video delay for self/peer assessment.
@CoachsEye
for self/peer/teacher assessment
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:45 PM EST
A6. Racquet/Batting Placement of projectile and distance traveled
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
A6 peer assessment + check list
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:46 PM EST
A6. Many standards focus on rotation. Uses spring and step takeoffs and landings specific to gymnastics. (S1.E3.4)
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@SHAPE_America
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6. Combines balance and transferring weight in a gymnastics sequence or dance with a partner. (S1.E7.5)
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@SHAPE_America
smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:47 PM EST
A6: when assessing striking skills looking for charge & release( backswing or start & forward) also when performing simple tumbles
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
Many of the
@SHAPE_America
standards now focus on rotation.
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
totally STEM all the way!!!
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:48 PM EST
@rich_wiles
@SHAPE_America
I am working on those skills now in gymnastics unit, but did not think to assess
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
@smartintahoe
@SchmidJudy
Could be school wide Inquiry too.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
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Many our international friends teach badminton-Assess of shuttlecock placement, flight &distance are import. strategies
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
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Many our international friends teach badminton-Assess of shuttlecock placement, flight &distance are import. strategies
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:49 PM EST
Last question coming up team
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
Q7. What methods of assessment can be used to determine a student’s balance?
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:50 PM EST
@rich_wiles
A Review Question, are you assessing learned knowledge?
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
A6 my little ones hold a balance for 3 secs. with amplitude an execution. They pick 3 of 10 balances
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I use Body Skills Ck list
SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:52 PM EST
A7. maintaining control of body at various levels and while traveling different pathways
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:54 PM EST
A7. It depends on the standard. Could be dance, or tumbling assessment from PE Metrics, Bam Video Assessment.
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
A7. Could be a simple assessment to check for content knowledge of movement. Asym or Sym Movement.
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
A7. The rotation occurs in a linear motion so body or implement follow a specific pathway
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
A6 could be as simple as Ss perform sequence of locomotor w/ tumbling skills & maintain dymanic balance by performing w/ control
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:55 PM EST
A7 using a balance wksheet and seeing if they could hold the pose for "X" seconds,
@mrrobbo
has some great ones for balance it
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:56 PM EST
A7. Create simple assessment of skill cues and peer check.
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
Thank you for joining us this week. Please join us next week for for the topic “Locomotor Movements in
#PhysEd
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
A6 this week ss in my classes Ss held Sym and Asym shapes & balances for 3 sec each. worked well and I video
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
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team thanks
@rich_wiles
for an awesome job moderating when he's preparing to present
@SHAPEAmericaSD
Good Luck Rich
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SchmidJudy
Feb 9 @ 8:57 PM EST
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team thanks
@rich_wiles
for an awesome job moderating when he's preparing to present
@SHAPEAmericaSD
Good Luck Rich
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
@SchmidJudy
@SHAPEAmericaSD
Thanks brain is on packing up stuff for the two presentations
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#SHAPESouthern
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:58 PM EST
Keep up with the chat information and sharable documents on the
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fit2Bsmart
Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
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good night friends who will be @ nationals? I'm hosting a twitter/voxer gather Thurs night at SHOUT House.
rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
Next week we will start apply the principles to Standard 1 and work through Standard 3 this spring.
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smsandino
Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thanks for a fantastic
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everyone and
@rich_wiles
a big thank you for all that you do with your team!
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
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smartintahoe
Feb 9 @ 8:59 PM EST
Thanks
@rich_wiles
love talking science!!!
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Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
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rich_wiles
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Feb 9 @ 9:00 PM EST
@smsandino
Thanks for stopping by each week. We all shape each others learning to better teach our students.
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