#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday June 12, 2017
3:00 PM EDT
participatechat
Jun 12 @ 3:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#ASEchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/mKOeusFf0N
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:00 PM EDT
#ASEchat
(if conversation flags we can always discuss no.2 teaching graphs)
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM EDT
In tonight's
#ASEChat
please remember to use like, reply and retweet as appropriate as we may use the 'counts' of these for other purposes!
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM EDT
The curfew tolls the knell of parting day and so
#ASEchat
begins. our topic tonight is"Good science trips"and you are stuck with me hosting
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:02 PM EDT
What was so good about the science museum trip?
#ASEchat
In reply to @CLEAPSS
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:02 PM EDT
Does that include things like field trips which are part of the curriculum? (or used to be)
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In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:02 PM EDT
#ASEchat
Death by worksheet or just let the kids enjoy themselves?
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sciencetrips
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:02 PM EDT
#asechat
thanks will explore impact of retweet, reply, like tomorrow
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM EDT
We're lucky in Glasgow as we have a superb hands-on Science Centre which is brilliant for trips
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twinklresources
Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM EDT
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sometimes just going outside the classroom can be as engaging as a trip (and free :) )
TomasAbadi
Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM EDT
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@agittner
a bit of both! Have the worksheet make them explore
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:04 PM EDT
Ha! We used to run a school camp for all Y7 where the entire week was driven by worksheets!
#deathly
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:04 PM EDT
I agree. A walk in the local area is always illuminating
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In reply to @twinklresources
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:04 PM EDT
We also have Whitelee Windfarm on our doorstep which has an outstanding visitor centre and great activities with groups of kids
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ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:04 PM EDT
And there is an increasing number of hands on centres available nowadays
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In reply to @Glazgow
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:05 PM EDT
@viciascience
Do they remember the worksheet, the science or when miss fell over and johnny was sick, and that sheep with two heads
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In reply to @TomasAbadi, @ViciaScience
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:05 PM EDT
We have an annual trip to the Malham field centre for a level applied science. They're brilliant.
#ASEChat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:05 PM EDT
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would it still be so driven today?
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:05 PM EDT
Practical and hands on where possible - consign the worksheets to the bin!
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In reply to @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:06 PM EDT
FSC centres are wonderful, and staffed by experts. But are they still being used for science visits?
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In reply to @cadenp01
twinklresources
Jun 12 @ 3:06 PM EDT
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looking for science in the world around us opens up so many possibilities. Sorry, I know that isn't really a trip- but it's great
In reply to @agittner
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:06 PM EDT
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too often the fall and sick
In reply to @agittner, @TomasAbadi, @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:06 PM EDT
Hear hear. Experience is everything
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In reply to @Glazgow
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:06 PM EDT
and many of them are brilliant - great interactive activities for the pupils and usually very helpful and knowledgeable staff
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In reply to @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM EDT
We do an annual scientific geography trip, its all geology, river work etc..its ace
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @cadenp01
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM EDT
Which are the venues that do the best teacher freebies for the advance visit?
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Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM EDT
totally agree - one of my favourite experiences every year is our bug hunts round the back of the school - amazing finds
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In reply to @twinklresources
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM EDT
If worksheet provides bkgnd information, then useful, but ours were of type 'write down name, or sketch a sheep if you see one!
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @agittner
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:07 PM EDT
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so long as children (and us) are permitted to interact and explore, get it down on the worksheet!
In reply to @Glazgow, @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM EDT
And do you refer to them when you get back to school?
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In reply to @stevethedoc1, @Glazgow, @ViciaScience
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM EDT
followed up by using the digital microscopes to look in detail at what we've found - always engaging
#asechat
In reply to @twinklresources
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM EDT
Not sure if it's the same thing but also love gcse sciencelive. Majority of speakers usually incredible.
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jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Why not check out
@TheCrick
! >>
https://t.co/4ZgTppbiBd
#ASEChat
In reply to @agittner, @TheCrick
CRUKLondon
Jun 12 @ 4:42 AM EDT
5 days until
@TheCrick
Discovery Day! Chat to pioneering researchers & get involved in fun filled science activities
https://t.co/kZfboAVIXh
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Be interested to hear more about a wind farm visit - are the workings explained?
#asechat
In reply to @Glazgow
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
I loved bodyworks, who can resist a wax model of a flayed body!!! showing their innards
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In reply to @CLEAPSS
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Again I have to plug
@gsc1
happy to have teachers visit for free before trips and excellent free CPD sessions for teachers too
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In reply to @agittner, @gsc1
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
I'm sure they are, but you shouldn't have to pay for school trips..
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In reply to @cadenp01
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM EDT
That sounds brill. WIsh we had one in Sheffield :-(
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In reply to @jesswade, @TheCrick
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:10 PM EDT
#asechat
'' but of course they need to write about the fall and who was sick when back in class''!?
In reply to @agittner, @Glazgow, @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:10 PM EDT
Absolutely the same thing, I've always found them good AND they do them up north, not all London-centric
#ASEchat
In reply to @cadenp01
RoseEdmondson5
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
#ASEchat
I've done both- depends what you want out of it. I find giving them something to fill in helps to focus and recall info 😊😊
In reply to @agittner
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
Staff or students or both
#ASEChat
In reply to @jesswade
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
#asechat
evening all! sorry I'm late (again!) could someone tell me what we are talking about?!!!
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
Yep all working explained through interactive experience, windfarm simulator etc, demos/film about Nat Grid and energy distribution
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In reply to @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
Playing devils advocate; is the museum engaging enough if it needs a worksheet? You know what I mean?
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In reply to @RoseEdmondson5
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM EDT
Does anyone record visits using camera phones , tablets? 'every picture tells a story'
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In reply to @RoseEdmondson5, @agittner
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM EDT
My dream would be to investigate the science lab under the
@NationalGallery
with the
@RoySocChem
https://t.co/YhpCLWu5KD
#ASEChat
#Time4Chem
In reply to @agittner, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM EDT
And
@Visit_Whitelee
they tie in a brilliant walk to look at the habitat and wildlife thriving on the windfarm
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @Visit_Whitelee
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:12 PM EDT
I often do a "best picture of the day" comp
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @RoseEdmondson5
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM EDT
No one should have to pay. I guarantee there will be just as good teachers at your local university, just without the PR.
#ASEChat
In reply to @cadenp01
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM EDT
That sounds perfect - is it Nat Grid that manages site or a private concern?
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In reply to @Glazgow
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM EDT
Though my favourite was to get them to take a photo of something linked to A-Z from the day. Got them really looking and thinking
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @RoseEdmondson5
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM EDT
Me too, but not necessarily with the kids ;-)
#ASEchat
far far too interesting
In reply to @jesswade, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
twinklresources
Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM EDT
Can be a really useful way to assess learning- use the pics/vids for paired discussion- what did we learn here?
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @RoseEdmondson5, @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM EDT
With teachers I have used 'pic collage' and tablets to consider plant adaptations in botanic gardens
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In reply to @agittner, @RoseEdmondson5
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Scottish Power - they have an equally brilliant visitor centre at Ben Cruchan at the pumped-storage hydroelectric power station
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience
twinklresources
Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Personally I prefer to experience the trip and follow up back in class
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In reply to @agittner, @stevethedoc1, @RoseEdmondson5
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM EDT
#asechat
they could be monitoring our tweets, let us know
In reply to @jesswade, @agittner, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:15 PM EDT
Also the labs under the Nat History Museum. That place is like an iceberg
#asechat
In reply to @jesswade, @agittner, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:15 PM EDT
A-level chemists; the BEST trip by far Ecton Hill, if you've never been, book tonight, throw a sickie if the head won't let you go
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:15 PM EDT
Thanks - I need to do some local searching for something similar. We have turbines, but no visitor centre
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Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Scottish Power - they have an equally brilliant visitor centre at Ben Cruchan at the pumped-storage hydroelectric power station
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:16 PM EDT
This year we've been to
@wild_place
,
@CheltSciFest
,
#famelabacademy
, the adult
@FameLab
an IoP talk and
@gcsesciencelive
,
#ASEchat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:16 PM EDT
#asechat
not saying I disagree but the vast majority of trips and visits require funds. Also, the PR is why a lot of the students sign up!
In reply to @jesswade
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:16 PM EDT
I've done that trip, they are excellent, touching samples from the Beagle, amazing
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @jesswade, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:17 PM EDT
Next time you're Glasgow way you should definitely get up to Whitelee for a visit
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:17 PM EDT
Help!!
#asechat
just want verification - from tweets looks like we chatting about trips/visits-am I correct?!!
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM EDT
#asechat
evening all! sorry I'm late (again!) could someone tell me what we are talking about?!!!
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:17 PM EDT
Ah! We used to take our pupils to Dinorwic hydroelectric station in Snowdonia. Massive!
#ASEChat
In reply to @Glazgow
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Yup, welcome. Worksheets or just let the kids wander?
#ASechat
In reply to @oboelizzy
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Personal fave: the new
@designmuseum
:
https://t.co/P43f51sumi
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem, @DesignMuseum
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
#asechat
remember to reply, retweet and like where appropriate
In reply to @agittner, @ViciaScience, @jesswade, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Anyone done the much advertised Alton Towers science of roller coasters jolly?
#ASEchat
twinklresources
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Yes :)
#asechat
In reply to @oboelizzy
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Long time ago - but seeing how the specimens are preserved was really interesting
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In reply to @agittner, @jesswade, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
#asechat
not really any museums close by that I'm aware of that are decent and free. Tbf our trips are few due to cover.
In reply to @jesswade
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Must remind my head of D&T about that one. Thanks
#ASEchat
In reply to @jesswade, @ViciaScience, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem, @DesignMuseum
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
#asechat
went there from Hereford as a Y5 pupil myself, quite a day trip
In reply to @ViciaScience, @Glazgow
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Meeeee!
#asechat
but used my own things not theres
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Anyone done the much advertised Alton Towers science of roller coasters jolly?
#ASEchat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Has everyone on the
#PrimaryRocks
x
#ASEChat
adventure visited
@ImaginationLdn
yet? TOO COOL:
https://t.co/D5es71FoL5
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner, @TheCrick, @NationalGallery, @RoySocChem, @ImaginationLdn
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
oo-that's super-my dad was part of engineer team who designed Ffestiniog power station!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @Glazgow
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:20 PM EDT
Sounds as though
@theASE
Scottish Conference should put on a programme of visits next March!
#asechat
In reply to @Glazgow, @theASE
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:20 PM EDT
Last I heard their 45 minute chat wasn't bad
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
mrsjmclark
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
was
@gcsesciencelive
worth it? We are considering it. And has anyone done A Level Science live?
#ASEChat
In reply to @hrogerson, @wild_place, @CheltSciFest, @FameLab, @gcsesciencelive, @gcsesciencelive
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
#asechat
tonight is the night to solve that, which area of country ?
In reply to @cadenp01, @jesswade
Glazgow
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
I'm pretty sure it would be possible to get something organised - it's run by Glasgow Science Centre staff - real education focus
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @theASE
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
And we've still got trips to
@royalsociety
#summerscience
exhibition, a
@TBB_NearMe
and another event at
@AtBristol
#ASEchat
In reply to @wild_place, @CheltSciFest, @FameLab, @gcsesciencelive, @royalsociety, @TBB_NearMe, @AtBristol
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
Our local
@theASE
group organises trips to places that teachers could take their students.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM EDT
Might have been at the same time I was there - I am talking 1970's!
#asechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @Glazgow
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Definitely pre-game. And, if you can, quizzes to ensure they explore- or perhaps info on who is speaking. Encourage networking!
#ASEChat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Definitely worth it, all the presenters we had were top notch and the exam advice useful (if only for staff to remind them later)
#ASEchat
In reply to @mrsjmclark, @hrogerson, @wild_place, @CheltSciFest, @FameLab, @gcsesciencelive
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
We had a good time. Robert Winston was great. They did struggle with sitting and listening for so long though.
#asechat
In reply to @mrsjmclark, @wild_place, @CheltSciFest, @FameLab, @gcsesciencelive
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
#asechat
1971 I think, thought I recognised you all these years later
In reply to @ViciaScience, @Glazgow
JonScott46
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
#asechat
used to run a Y11 trip to Sci @ NH museums: 'worksheet' simply mapped curriculum to museum exhibits
In reply to @agittner, @oboelizzy
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
#ASEChat
north leeds! I know there's going to be loads out there but don't have the knowledge.
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @jesswade
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Gosh! Small world - another trip for our Y7s was Ffestiniog railway!
#asechat
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM EDT
oo-that's super-my dad was part of engineer team who designed Ffestiniog power station!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @Glazgow
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Nature reserves, Bradford Colour Museum, Thackeray Museum, Eureka, RSPB good to discuss ideas with other teachers while on a reccy
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Harlow Carr does some excellent stuff
#ASEchat
Harrogate
In reply to @cadenp01, @stevethedoc1, @jesswade
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Hopefully next year I can get more people to come in too. We've got projects lined up.
#ASEchat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM EDT
#ASEChat
we also took a group to Birmingham big bang which was really good too! Used to take the whole of year 7 to Jodrell Bank.
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM EDT
Will speak to the field officer and see if GSC can be fitted into the conference programme Thanks
#ASEChat
In reply to @Glazgow, @theASE
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM EDT
And the Deep at Hull is only an hour away.
#ASEchat
In reply to @cadenp01, @stevethedoc1, @jesswade
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM EDT
We also have a brewery trip coming up, mainly for the grownups ;) see
@theASE
Yorkshire newsletter for details ltd numbers
#asechat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM EDT
My advice would be to check out the
@RAEngNews
award winners and see where they'll be:
https://t.co/3jlDWxdlTc
#ASEchat
In reply to @agittner, @RAEngNews
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
#asechat
is armoury 'museum' in Leeds?
In reply to @cadenp01, @jesswade
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
and the Woodland Trust that
@DrBiol
used to work for
#asechat
In reply to @agittner, @cadenp01, @stevethedoc1, @jesswade, @DrBiol
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
I must take a group to
@YSJournal
conference when it's not too far away.
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
We did A-level, though they do both,
#ASEchat
In reply to @cadenp01, @stevethedoc1, @jesswade
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
including Drax power station to learn about biofuels
#ASEChat
#ASEYorks
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @theASE
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:26 PM EDT
hmph -this is where i wish I lived in Yorkshire!
#asechat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @theASE
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:26 PM EDT
#asechat
thought you were engine driver in the photo
In reply to @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:26 PM EDT
Are teachers confident to do own outdoor thing? Walks through woods, Pond dipping, sampling using line transects and quadrants?
#asechat
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
We're very lucky that a) trips are not banned and b) I have great colleagues who are prepared to organise trips.
#asechat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
#ASEChat
we have been to drax a few times again they're really good.
In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
yes its a Royal one
#asechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @cadenp01, @jesswade
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
Drax was always a great trip.
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
And there is a wonderful eco friendly teaching space which is a resource in itself at Harlow Carr
#ASEChat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Harlow Carr does some excellent stuff
#ASEchat
Harrogate
In reply to @cadenp01, @stevethedoc1, @jesswade
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:27 PM EDT
@BritSciAssoc
are doing an Alton Towers proj +there's a
@ResearchInSch
x
@SGSPhysics
investigation using school-built accelerometer!
#ASEChat
In reply to @agittner, @BritSciAssoc, @ResearchInSch, @SGSPhysics
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:28 PM EDT
@FieldStudiesC
used to do teacher orientation residentials
#asechat
went to Preston Montford with biology colleague who had lost confidence
In reply to @agittner, @FieldStudiesC
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:28 PM EDT
Yes! (Only jousting!)
#ASEChat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:25 PM EDT
#asechat
is armoury 'museum' in Leeds?
In reply to @cadenp01, @jesswade
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:28 PM EDT
now that sounds really interesting!
#asechat
In reply to @jesswade, @agittner, @BritSciAssoc, @ResearchInSch, @SGSPhysics
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:28 PM EDT
Previous award winners very good too!
https://t.co/O8I1FgrBGA
,
https://t.co/yZ4sGSOvQf
@SMASHfestUK
#ASEchat
In reply to @agittner, @RAEngNews, @SMASHfestUK
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:29 PM EDT
Do not despair! Space Centre in Leics. would be closer to you
#asechat
In reply to @oboelizzy, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
ellie_scicomm
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#asechat
evening all, I just wanted to put a reminder out to apply for free membership of
https://t.co/hmOiLqWwEU
Deadline this Friday!
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#ASEChat
will look into this one and ecton hill! Students have been to a lot of he big ones e.g. Eureka with parents.
In reply to @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Can strongly recommend the
@FieldStudiesC
place at Castle Head, idyllic centre and great science
#ASEchat
https://t.co/vFVgPvrRYN
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#asechat
and local waterworks museum next door to space centre even more potential
In reply to @ViciaScience, @oboelizzy, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Now that is right up my street-on my visit to Texas recently went to Johnson Space Centre!! Just WOW!!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
And what are the benefits?
#asechat
ellie_scicomm
Jun 12 @ 3:30 PM EDT
#asechat
evening all, I just wanted to put a reminder out to apply for free membership of
https://t.co/hmOiLqWwEU
Deadline this Friday!
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:31 PM EDT
We used to do a 'rough science' weekend on Anglesey, back in the days of the LA, 10 different schools with y9
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:31 PM EDT
We should really tap into local industries
#peoplelikeme
if trip is too far away might affect student perception ?
#asechat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:31 PM EDT
And contact
@PhysicsNews
@RoyalAstroSoc
! They have educational ambassadors all over the country w/ pop-up planetariums!
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @oboelizzy, @NeedhamL56, @theASE, @PhysicsNews, @RoyalAstroSoc
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:31 PM EDT
definitely potential -dont know about more!
#asechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56, @theASE
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Is it better to do a residential so can get really absorbed? follow up in the evening? or day trips?
#asechat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Local is LUSH! Just google "engineering firms near me" and look up the research of your local university :)
#winwin
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Close by is the colour museum in Bradford - well set up for schools, esp. dyeing (I don't mean media museum)
#asechat
In reply to @cadenp01
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
#asechat
now we are talking to nostalgia
In reply to @doc_kristy
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Lots of great venues; anyone got killer tips for planning a good trip for anyone not done it before?
#ASEchat
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
If you can't take students out of lessons then you have to consider doing things in the evening. There are some to be found.
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:33 PM EDT
Lots of great suggestions from you tonight
@jesswade
thank you
#asechat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Local is LUSH! Just google "engineering firms near me" and look up the research of your local university :)
#winwin
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:33 PM EDT
Does take time to become confident taking out trips.
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Lots of great venues; anyone got killer tips for planning a good trip for anyone not done it before?
#ASEchat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:33 PM EDT
#asechat
and is film and tv museum still there?
In reply to @ViciaScience, @cadenp01
Ange_K1
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
A shout out for
@ThinkForensic
here I feel
#ASEchat
In reply to @agittner, @hrogerson, @ThinkForensic
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
#ASEChat
I see a joint trip with textiles here!
In reply to @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Also took y10 from many local schools to Oxford sci/eng depts and college stay over with support from
@ogdentrust
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Piggy back an old hand for the first year then run one yourself?
#ASEchat
In reply to @hrogerson
staffdb66
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Gcse science live was great
@SLSingh
was great too... ..A level physics was also very good.. students loved
@jimalkhalili
#ASEchat
In reply to @hrogerson, @mrsjmclark, @wild_place, @CheltSciFest, @FameLab, @gcsesciencelive, @SLSingh, @jimalkhalili
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Talk to someone at school who knows the ins and outs of risk assessments and local rules, don’t be put off by these
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Here's another ace one:
@info_specific
! Learn about
@SwanseaUni
's solar cell success >
https://t.co/1J58McDjwq
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @info_specific, @SwanseaUni
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
first trip, work in partnership with experienced colleague. Research fully. Work well in advance
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:32 PM EDT
Lots of great venues; anyone got killer tips for planning a good trip for anyone not done it before?
#ASEchat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:35 PM EDT
I would say contact the venue, most (many) have risk assessments already done
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:35 PM EDT
But that funding was cut and now Oxford have significant pressure for WP so indie school lead booking is difficult
#asechat
In reply to @ogdentrust
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Has anyone stayed over at the science museum? Do they still do that? I have never applied.
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:35 PM EDT
And as I said, many venues offer free visits for teachers and have goody packs of resources (even if you don't go in the end) cough
#ASEchat
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Film and TV museum now known as Media Museum and funded with MOSI and Sci Museum
#asechat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:33 PM EDT
#asechat
and is film and tv museum still there?
In reply to @ViciaScience, @cadenp01
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Yes that would be perfect.. (are you still allowed to do textiles
#newDTGCSE
;)
#asechat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
#ASEChat
I see a joint trip with textiles here!
In reply to @ViciaScience
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Do a recce if you can, everything so much easier if you're familiar with your surroundings
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
ellie_scicomm
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
#asechat
You can find a description online here:
https://t.co/2YrrodyvCk
The commitment is up to you, but there are CPD sessions, pilots...
In reply to @ViciaScience
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
#asechat
too many years since last there
In reply to @ViciaScience
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Find your local makers: follow
@DrLucyRogers
's
#MakersHour
on Weds (19-20:00) + look up nearby
#makerspaces
#ASEChat
https://t.co/Fdn3t6bUh1
In reply to @ViciaScience, @oboelizzy, @NeedhamL56, @theASE, @PhysicsNews, @RoyalAstroSoc, @DrLucyRogers
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Agreed. They have some brilliant combo strips of textile to explore how dyes absorbed and fixed on different fabrics
#asechat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:34 PM EDT
#ASEChat
I see a joint trip with textiles here!
In reply to @ViciaScience
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:37 PM EDT
And the second time take the old hand with you. I don't like going to London without a particular colleague who knows it well.
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:37 PM EDT
If you're in town, DO NOT MISS the
@of_making
Festival of Stuff:
https://t.co/nwb6Dudorb
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @info_specific, @SwanseaUni, @of_Making
of_Making
Jun 1 @ 3:57 AM EDT
Our
#FestivalOfStuff
is back! 4-8 July =many
#free
#Making
Masterclasses & a sizzling Saturday Extravaganza
https://t.co/yKBdR6REvK
#FOS2017
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Are you thinking of that film Night at the Museum?
#asechat
In reply to @hrogerson
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:38 PM EDT
#ASEChat
did that not make the cut? Thought it was just a smaller part of DT?
In reply to @NeedhamL56
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:38 PM EDT
So
#ASEchat
summary point1. Lots of great venues out there, seemingly spread across the country
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:39 PM EDT
#ASEchat
summary point 2; 50:50 split on use a worksheet for focus or let the kids wander and experience themselves
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:39 PM EDT
#asechat
they do sleepovers as do increasingly other museums and other visit apots
In reply to @ViciaScience, @hrogerson
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:39 PM EDT
your probably right, just feels like all the skilled aspects of things like Res Mats have gone, are schools cutting DT?
#progress8
#asechat
In reply to @cadenp01
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Have also planned a two day venture down to London to take the kids to the main museums esp. for those who've never been.
#ASEChat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:40 PM EDT
#ASEchat
summary point 3; Work with an old hand the first time but don't be put off by the paperwork
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Check this out
@KatyNeedham
and
@Libby_scribbles
#asechat
jesswade
Jun 12 @ 3:37 PM EDT
If you're in town, DO NOT MISS the
@of_making
Festival of Stuff:
https://t.co/nwb6Dudorb
#ASEChat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @info_specific, @SwanseaUni, @of_Making
of_Making
Jun 1 @ 3:57 AM EDT
Our
#FestivalOfStuff
is back! 4-8 July =many
#free
#Making
Masterclasses & a sizzling Saturday Extravaganza
https://t.co/yKBdR6REvK
#FOS2017
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Just had an email about
#EngFest
https://t.co/SZIjluuxMj
but it's ks4/5 at my place who are interested as well as ks3.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Could you substitute 'experienced colleague' for 'old hand' please?
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:41 PM EDT
What about ensuring that disadvantaged students get to go, anyone got a working scheme that has had impact on getting them to go?
#ASEchat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:41 PM EDT
#asechat
one local primary recently had OfSted themed inspection on DT
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @cadenp01
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:42 PM EDT
For
@ViciaScience
#ASEchat
summary point 3; Work with a more experienced colleague the first time but don't be put off by the paperwork
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:42 PM EDT
No mention yet of zoos, eg Chester, or botanic gardens, eg Kew. Both brilliant - few children seem to visit these with their family
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:42 PM EDT
#asechat
well why not run it your way in Weston?
In reply to @hrogerson
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:43 PM EDT
#asechat
why you looking to get on a trip?
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:43 PM EDT
We've got things coming up! 😉 planning on Wednesday.
#ASechat
In reply to @stevethedoc1
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:43 PM EDT
As if by magc
@thinkforensic
appears
#ASEchat
ThinkForensic
Jun 12 @ 8:50 AM EDT
Delighted to be at
#Bradford
Science Festival; July 15 & 16. Our unique CSI 'art heist' exhibition will be truly interactive
#event
#crime
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Essential to budget for children who cannot afford full cost - think about who will get most benefit from trip
#ASEChat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:41 PM EDT
What about ensuring that disadvantaged students get to go, anyone got a working scheme that has had impact on getting them to go?
#ASEchat
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:44 PM EDT
#asechat
is there any issue with zoos today?
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Chester Zoo was great for our Y7 trip to Wales en-route to break the journey, just enough time for sweets to be making them
#sick
#asechat
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:42 PM EDT
No mention yet of zoos, eg Chester, or botanic gardens, eg Kew. Both brilliant - few children seem to visit these with their family
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:44 PM EDT
We go to a small zoo near us. Can walk round in an hour so it means we can go for half a day. We like that.
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I keep hearing very good things about Yorkshire Wildlife park
https://t.co/ZR8kdsPCeQ
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Oh yes me too, think they have conference type rooms too
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I keep hearing very good things about Yorkshire Wildlife park
https://t.co/ZR8kdsPCeQ
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I get loads of adverts for foreign science trips anyone done one (not allowed to mention CERN) makes me too jealous
#ASEchat
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:46 PM EDT
#asechat
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Chester def Brill also Whipsnade-ASE teachmeet there recently ask Frances Evans(San Antonio Zoo interesting aswell-oops-sorry
@ViciaScience
)
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Not so much I don't think. No more depressed polar bears. They're all involved in conservation.
#ASEChat
In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience, @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:46 PM EDT
But no one knows where it is - did it replace the Earth Centre?
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:47 PM EDT
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Y&H ASE meeting perhaps?
In reply to @NeedhamL56
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Can parents afford all these trips? We already do overseas trips so don't want to ask for more money.
#ASEChat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:47 PM EDT
No, its further south of Donnie
https://t.co/cCVxefFqqC
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
#asechat
very important consideration Helen, for those in state sch even more imp I suspect
In reply to @hrogerson, @agittner
hrogerson
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Must dip out early from
#asechat
, thanks
@agittner
for helping me review our extra curricular offer. I do need to evaluate impact vs effort.
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
I didn't see any replies to my question about disadvantaged students
#ASEchat
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
@agittner
so which of the trips we have mentioned would be good for primary pupils?
#asechat
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Check out the
@STEMLearningUK
opportunities for CERN and their Iceland trip too, fab hands on cutting edge science for teachers
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I get loads of adverts for foreign science trips anyone done one (not allowed to mention CERN) makes me too jealous
#ASEchat
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Out bio/geog do a joint trip to
@BlackpoolZoo
#asechat
but I have worked with staff who won't supervise such trips (vegans mainly)
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner, @BlackpoolZoo
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Harlow Carr, Yorks Wildlife, Fairburn Ings, Science museum, Leicester Space Centre
#primaryscience
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:50 PM EDT
I suggested when setting budgets for trips, have enough income to cover a contribution for pupils who cannot afford
#asechat
In reply to @agittner, @hrogerson
ayme_louise
Jun 12 @ 3:50 PM EDT
they do days where you can study animal behaviour for post 16
#asechat
In reply to @agittner, @ViciaScience
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM EDT
#asechat
probably all but 'CERN' personally disappointed when I went
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM EDT
And there are some brilliant farm / garden trips (e.g. RHS) for primary pupils
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Dont schools have a budget to support? If all can’t go shouldn’t be offered as part of curriculum, not a holiday
#asechat
In reply to @agittner, @hrogerson
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Sometimes its also about providing the organisation and impetus to help them get forms back
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @hrogerson
doc_kristy
Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM EDT
We have 'Headmaster's fund' for bursary and other struggling families to apply for support but curriculum trips are funded in fees
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Sometimes they assume they won't be allowed to go and so don't even ask their parents
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @hrogerson
oboelizzy
Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM EDT
bet
@sarahpurplee
can advise on a lot of these!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner, @sarahpurplee
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM EDT
#asechat
we have an exchange with a school in Japan which has been incredible. Only 6 per year but all done via application.
#lifechanging
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:53 PM EDT
As I said, its not always about the money for the trip (could be clothing) and often straightforward lack of confidence
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:53 PM EDT
Yes - needs a supportive whole school culture to see value of taking pupils out of lessons and to encourage ed visits
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Sometimes they assume they won't be allowed to go and so don't even ask their parents
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @hrogerson
whitebug16
Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM EDT
Cadbury world!
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM EDT
#ASEchat
my summary point4. Remember the kids that will get the most from your trip are the ones that will be hardest to persuade to go
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM EDT
I would agree - a visit to Japan is life changing as a child
#asechat
cadenp01
Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM EDT
#asechat
we have an exchange with a school in Japan which has been incredible. Only 6 per year but all done via application.
#lifechanging
In reply to @agittner
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM EDT
Pastoral system could be picking things up like this, needs a whole school approach so students don’t miss out
#asechat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:53 PM EDT
As I said, its not always about the money for the trip (could be clothing) and often straightforward lack of confidence
#ASEchat
In reply to @NeedhamL56, @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Is it still the case that parents should not be charged if the trip can be shown to be part of the curriculum?
#fieldcourses
#ASEChat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:56 PM EDT
#ASEchat
last five minutes, the hour has flown. Last call for any venue not mentioned and any tip to get off your chest
whitebug16
Jun 12 @ 3:56 PM EDT
Yes. Cern x2 with y12/13. Sch agreed to use pp for those who couldn't afford. First time out of city for some!
#asechat
In reply to @agittner
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:57 PM EDT
NQT /RQTs get yourself on a trip, no matter how tired you are. Payback is enormous don’t really get it till you’ve tried it
#ASEChat
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:57 PM EDT
You ask for "donations" making the point that if not enough trip won't go.If its in term time,And many schls do track participation
#ASEchat
In reply to @ViciaScience
stevethedoc1
Jun 12 @ 3:57 PM EDT
#asechat
ask the children what they want/ expect from such a trip
In reply to @agittner
ViciaScience
Jun 12 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Some saddening news - number of residential biology field course bookings have plummeted of late
#ASEChat
In reply to @agittner
agittner
Jun 12 @ 3:58 PM EDT
Like that. Do you get more than free wifi and a coach trip?
#ASEchat
In reply to @stevethedoc1
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Jun 12 @ 3:59 PM EDT
Wonder if they should be called ‘visits’ rather than ‘trips’ latter suggests ‘having a loverly time the day we went to Bangor’
#asechat