#IDedchat Archive

This is a chat for Idaho Educators and anyone else who wants to join the conversation. Topic for 6/20: Reflective Practices

Wednesday September 26, 2018
10:00 PM EDT

  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Hi #IDedchat PLN! It is 8:00 - time for our weekly chat! Tonight we will be discussing Qs that I found interesting during my scanning of Twitter this week.
  • MrsMurat Sep 26 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Have a couple minutes to give our #DigCit student blogs feedback on the results of us Googling ourselves? Thank you! Please RT. https://t.co/KrEbQ144Kj #IDedchat #abedchat #educoach #mbedchat #ndedchat #WeirdEd
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    I am Janet Avery, Curriculum Director in Jerome, and your moderator this evening! #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    New to Twitter chats? A great place to join the conversation is at @participatechat Join #IDedchat here: https://t.co/bgTSnnP0by
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:01 PM EDT
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Please take a moment and introduce yourself to the #IDedchat PLN - even if you are just lurking! :-)
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Dan, business teacher from St. Louis. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Hi Dan! Glad you are here tonight! Sorry I wasn't here last week - needed some balance. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Completely understandable. This has been my disconnect from an unexpected week. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Our first set of Qs come from #LeadLAP chat that is on Saturday mornings. #IDedchat
  • mlhoofer Sep 26 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Martie, Indianapolis. 7th grade writing. Grad school student. Wife. Mom. Tired person heading to bed soon with 3rd 7:30 AM meeting this week tomorrow morning. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Welcome Martie! So glad you made it tonight. I wonder if our friend @LCHS_Bio will be joining us. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @mlhoofer, @LCHS_Bio
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Hi friends! Kevin from @LCHSBears in Indianapolis. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Hi Kevin! #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @LCHSBears
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Lisa from Lewiston. I may be lurking more than responding tonight. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:07 PM EDT
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Q1: What are examples of skills that need to be taught in order to support our students who have challenging behaviors? via @drjoy77 #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Hi Lisa! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LisaFenter
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Tracy from California. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Hi Kevin!! :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @mlhoofer, @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    I see you @tracyscottkelly are you joining #IDedchat tonight?
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    I see you @NathanTracy4 you need to join #IDedchat tonight. :-)
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Yes Janet. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Here is Q1 one more time. #IDedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1. Self control and self regulation. #idedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Sep 26 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A1- SELF REGULATION! And responsibility for own actions. We work on this daily at my school. It's all about choices. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    What is your definition of self regulation Tracy? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    R1: a lot of our Ss do not have background knowledge to engage them in learning at a high level. We need to provide our Ss with the ability to build that knowledge to engage them in learning and reduce disciplinary issues in the classroom. #IDedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    I see him too. That is a cool shirt he is wearing. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    What are some strategies you use to build background knowledge Kevin? #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    A1: broken record, but self regulation. #idedchat
  • MrsAgTeacher Sep 26 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    We work on awareness too- name the behavior. Example- student tapping pencil super loud bugging other students. "You're tapping your pencil and it's distracting, please make a better choice." #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Hi Jaysa! Glad to see you! #IDedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    a1: I think some of those challenging students need proper self-advocacy #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Q2: Describe the role of empathy in our work - but especially when working with challenging behaviors. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Yesterday in my physics class we were talking about acceleration. I showed a @YouTube video about drag racing. It was about 7 minutes in length and talked about distance, displacement, change in velocity. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @YouTube
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    I work with a lot of students that have negative behaviors. So first I try to determine if it is a choice or not. If it is not, self regulation is when they feel a certain way internally, we work to replace their negative behavior with one more socially acceptable. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Tell me more about this Dan - what do you mean by proper "self-advocacy?" #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • MrsAgTeacher Sep 26 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    A1- with anger outbursts, we work on giving student skills to diffuse- walk away, step outside, out headphones on for a minute to calm down. #IDedchat
  • mlhoofer Sep 26 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    R1 - I think some also need to feel comfortable it knowing all the answers and being willing to take controlled risks. So much of their lives are out of control. Need to know that some risks are ok. #IDedchat
  • leadedtech Sep 26 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Hey #idedchat I'd love to join but I am busy doing water clean up after somebody took a shower with the curtain on the OUTSIDE of the tub. Failure is a chance to learn right? 🤦
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    I like "teach to replace a negative behavior with one that is socially acceptable." #IDedchat
    In reply to @tracyscottkelly
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2: It helps build the relationships with those students. Barriers are broken down and you begin to understand the student better. #idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    A2. We do not always know why kids act a certain way, but we can understand their home life, and the difficulties they come to us with. And we can help them learn strategies to deal with the problems life as given them. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    I like that you use "outbursts" as teachable moments - give the students tools TO self regulate. #IDedchat
    In reply to @MrsAgTeacher
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    R2: we must realize that having a child sit in a classroom for any length of time when they maybe have not eaten or were evicted, or had a family issue isn’t going to be beneficial all the time. Understanding your Ss and their background is essential. #IDedchat
  • leadedtech Sep 26 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A2: This one resonates with me, particularly with how our new Supt, Dr. @dogoodstuff introduced us to the Dignity Model. It is amazing to see how the culture changes when dignity is valued. Empathy is a huge part of this. #ksdedtech #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    They are always told to "speak up for yourself" but not how to regulate tone, inflection, and proper timing to do so. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach
  • leadedtech Sep 26 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    BTW, it is a goal of mine to get @dogoodstuff to join an #idedchat soon. She is a great leader and teammate! #ksdedtech
  • mlhoofer Sep 26 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    R2 - “I understandlife is hard. I also understand you must take responsibility for your actions.” Bottom line - I hear & see you, but the high expectations for you aren’t budging. You’re too special, & life’s too short, for me to lower the standards. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Wow, almost the same answer. #IDedchat
    In reply to @tracyscottkelly
  • MrsAgTeacher Sep 26 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2- empathy for me is separating behavior from child. I correct in love bc I want them to succeed not bc it bugs me. I try to tell that to students and give them reasons for correction. Also- don't hold grudges, give millions of second chances, new starts. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    I like the name of this model - tell us more about it! AND is your new Supt on Twitter? #IDedchat
    In reply to @leadedtech, @dogoodstuff
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Love that - regulate tone, inflection, etc. #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    We would LOVE to have her! #IDedchat
    In reply to @leadedtech, @dogoodstuff
  • assignmenthelp Sep 26 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    10 Useful Study Apps for College Students https://t.co/bhAXtLdjB1 #mbedchat #ndedchat #abedchat #educoach #Idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Q3: Over time, challenging behavior can take a toll on peer relations. What are some good resources or tools for building the classroom community? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    @mlhoofer is so right. Just because kids act out because of things outside our control doesn’t mean we lower our expectations. #idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Let's keep retweeting this! @dogoodstuff ! #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    R3: #PBL gives Ss a sense of community and can help demonstrate that these challenging behavioral issues can be changed. Giving a task where Ss can see accomplishment and success can really help a lot #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A3: Setting class norms. Letting them choose their seats (at times). Peer interviews, etc. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Our next set of Qs come from #NVedchat on Homework. #IDedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Right on! We might change to comparable or even higher, but never lower in the long run. #idedchat
    • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      @mlhoofer is so right. Just because kids act out because of things outside our control doesn’t mean we lower our expectations. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Q4: What homework have you given in the past or currently? Is it effective? Why or why not? #IDedchat
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A2. If you haven’t seen this Brene Brown short video on sympathy vs empathy, I think it’s great. https://t.co/aEhal7COGe #idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A3. Everyone deserves a equal chance. That is fair. Some kids need behavior charts, some need 5 extra minutes for a test. We all need something at some point. Kids understand this, as long as we allow them to learn it. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A4: I do not give homework. Everything is done in class. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    R4: about the only thing I give for homework is going through notes from class or watching video (flipped stuff). If I give problems for howwork, that can create frustration and they can’t always ask questions quickly or get a quick answer. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    This is such a great explanation! Empathy = connection; Sympathy=disconnection. Thanks for sharing @LisaFenter #IDedchat
  • mlhoofer Sep 26 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    R4 - time always given in class to complete assignments. However, what’s not finished in class must be done at home. Almost NEVER give work due the next day. #MomofVarsityAthletes #NeedFlexibility #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    I've seen teachers assign a syllabus and supply list as homework and take it for points. Not sure what learning is happening here. #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Q5: How can you "flip" #homework? Check out this pic/ideas from @jmattmiller & @alicekeeler and the book #DitchHW What are you going to do? #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    How do you measure that on an assessment? What skills are being learned? #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    A4. I once gave an adult learner with autism, social skills homework.We started with saying Hi 2 others in the mall with no expectations.He has know progressed 2 b able 2 reflect on others behavior.4 kids, I give parents option 2 opt out.I want learning not compliance. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    This drives me crazy - just sayin' #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD, @LCHS_Bio
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    That's been my argument and yet teachers believe in it. #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    R5: Ha! This is where you can build background knowledge. The video I showed the other day could have been viewed at home. This assumes that Ss will spend time watching it. #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    You and me both. Not sure how it's justified. #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @LCHS_Bio
  • leadedtech Sep 26 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Yes she is and she is pretty amazing! She is @dogoodstuff Nancy Larsen BTW here is the Author and champion of The Dignity Model https://t.co/3VTnRVdzxH #idedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @dogoodstuff, @dogoodstuff
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    When the focus is on learning, "homework" doesn't seem like a "Chore" it is a learning activity. #IDedchat
    In reply to @tracyscottkelly
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A4. Even when working with adults, giving homework is hit or miss. If adults can’t complete it (for a variety of reasons)it’s not surprising that students aren’t completing homework. There really needs to be a well understood and bought into purpose. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    True - what if you set it up as a "center" - those who didn't watch at home can watch in class and then rotate to other activities..... #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    I don’t agree with this statement, but a former principal colleague said once “we are here to teach content, not responsibility!” There are no academic benefits from turning in a syllabus that is signed. #IDedchat
    In reply to @WinkelerD
  • hiccupc Sep 26 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    A5: ideally, I would love for homework to be Ss discussing at home what they worked on at school. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Our next set of Qs comes from the #hacklearning chat. #IDedchat
  • hiccupc Sep 26 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Sorry for jumping in late. May not have had the appetizer before the delicious entree so my view may be askew. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Q6: What causes students to hit "quit points"? #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Hi Chris! Glad you made it! #IDedchat
    In reply to @hiccupc
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A6. Frustration, not seeing a purpose (why), not having an entry point in the learning.#idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A6: Ok I'll admit, I'm researching "quit points" currently. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    R6: not sure if I know what “quit points” are; however, I assume this means assignments aren’t done. Sometimes there are too many distractions in the classroom when work is done. Sometimes it’s just boring to Ss. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    Tell us a little more about what you mean by "entry points" Lisa. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LisaFenter
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    https://t.co/Vb9sIgedEQ #idedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Could be assignment isn't done... or the point at which a Ss "gives up" on a task/activity/learning process. #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Do we have an definition for quitting points yet? #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    "apathy, lack of motivation; when/why a student "quits." #IDedchat
    In reply to @tracyscottkelly
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Every student needs to have a place in the learning from which they can access moving forward. For example, in math, if a problem is given that can be answered a number of ways, you will see the access point of students—some basic, some advanced, some in the middle. #idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Thanks Dan! #idedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    A6: They're already behind and feel like they can't catch up. The "what's the point" mentality. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Q7: How can we help students push through their "quit point?" #IDedchat In other words - how do we help students stay motivated to keep going even when frustrated?
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    A6. Thanks to @WinkelerD for the definition. Any # of things could cause Ss to quit. Should they earn points up to that point? Depends. Are you shooting for mastery of content and this quit point is further along than last time? Sure.#idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    Thanks Janet! #idedchat
  • hiccupc Sep 26 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: Relationship between T & S. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: By building that relationship with the students. Having a sense of understanding and balance it with the right level of push. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A7: One strategy is to celebrate small wins - give activities in "chunks" #IDedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    A7. Build a relationship. Relate this to a goal for them. Make it personal. In the short term, to help build intrintrisic motivation, place a carrot. #idedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    R7: pushing through that “quit point” is me pestering my Ss until they cry “uncle”. Once they know that I am totally bought in on their success and I believe in them, they will do whatever I ask! #idedchat
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    Like minds Dan! #idedchat
    • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      A7: By building that relationship with the students. Having a sense of understanding and balance it with the right level of push. #idedchat
  • LisaFenter Sep 26 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    A7. Encouraging the power of “yet”. You don’t understand it yet...so let’s keep working on it together. #idedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Yep - looks like relationships are key in most of our responses tonight! @hiccupc @tracyscottkelly @WinkelerD :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LCHS_Bio, @hiccupc, @tracyscottkelly, @WinkelerD
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    YES! "Yet" is such a powerful tool - especially if a trusting relationship is already established with the student. :-) #IDedchat
    In reply to @LisaFenter
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Q8: Think back to the reasons you entered into the profession of education. What inspired and motivated you to be an educator? #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A8: I was goin to teach students to LOVE Shakespeare like I did - and then I realized I had to help them find purpose and passion. #IDedchat
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A8: The fact that a teacher was there for me and was willing to put everything aside to ensure that my learning came first that morning. #idedchat
  • hiccupc Sep 26 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    A7: Growing up, it was a T said, Ss did. Not sure if that was good or bad. Regardless, now, connecting with Ss is important. No different than how commercials nowadays connect on an emotional level. #IDedchat
  • averyteach - Moderator Sep 26 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    A8: NOW my "WHY" is to help others become the best versions of themselves. I have had so many people see things in me that I didn't see in myself - now I want to continue to pay that forward. #IDedchat
  • LCHS_Bio Sep 26 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    So many of our Ss have never had someone believe in them. This is one thing that @PrincipalKafele stresses in his speeches and writings. I believe in you and know that you can and will achieve. #IDedchat
    In reply to @averyteach, @hiccupc, @tracyscottkelly, @WinkelerD, @PrincipalKafele
  • tracyscottkelly Sep 26 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    @WinkelerD and @LCHS_Bio you both have earned this #BoomerangofAwesomeness for explaining and defining material for this awesome #idedchat hosted by the incomparable @averyteach!
  • WinkelerD Sep 26 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Thank you @averyteach for a wonderful chat. I immediately related to Ss in my classroom with "quit points". What a great conversation tonight. See everyone next week. #idedchat