#txhsfbchat Archive
A chat for high school football coaches. Topics discussed: coaching methods, program development, and impacting our athletes.
Wednesday March 1, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 1 @ 9:00 PM EST
Sean Price, HC, Labette County Kansas
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Mar 1 @ 9:01 PM EST
This chat is for Football Coaches interested in Continuous Learning and Networking and is sponsored by
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Mar 1 @ 9:02 PM EST
Your moderator tonight is
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Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Let's check in! Tell us who you are, what you coach, and the state you reside!
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Michael Bell QBs & Passing Game, Spring Valley HS Las Vegas Home of Nevada Air Raid Here we are working some WRs
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Rob McKie QB/OC Crestwood High School Sumter, SC
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Got a gut full of crawfish but I'm here... James Soria Run Game Coordinator/OL Coach Houston Austin HS
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Chris Kizer. DC/DL. Arkadelphia, AR
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HAWKSCOACHGABE
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Eric Gabe West Fork, Iowa
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Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
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coachfisher_rp
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Mar 1 @ 9:04 PM EST
I am Chris Fisher in MoCity, TX and I coach the Ridge Point OL. I am also the founder and creator of the
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CoachMHochard
Mar 1 @ 9:04 PM EST
Miles Hochard from KCMO.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:03 PM EST
Let's check in! Tell us who you are, what you coach, and the state you reside!
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Skillutt28
Mar 1 @ 9:04 PM EST
Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend HS, KS
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:04 PM EST
@SoutheasternFB
HC Mike Burkett, Remlap, AL.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
To address the topic of how the Evolution of Football has occurred, this is just the first of 3 planned chats on the subject
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qbdrills1
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
Matt Caldwell. AD/HFC George County HS (MS)
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SRfbshowcase
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
Coby Rhoden cofounder greater Houston srfbshowcase and Taso White hat Houston
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CoachJoshHadden
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
Josh Hadden. 8 years HS Asst. 2 years MS HC. Currently looking. Aiken, SC
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:05 PM EST
Coach Kevin Swift Gold Beach Oregon pop. 1800 HFC on Sabbatical -Present AD Home of Panthers
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:06 PM EST
So tonight we discuss how and what has happened with our offensive and defensive systems over the years
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:06 PM EST
terJake Timmerman OL coach @ Northside in GA. Puling double duty tonight!
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:06 PM EST
Ryan McDonald OL Mooresville (IN)
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Mar 1 @ 9:07 PM EST
We will be using the Q1A1 format for questions and responses. Tweet A LOT, engage and follow coaches! Lets Go!
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coachjsam
Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
Joseph Sam DC/LB coach at Mansfield Legacy (TX)
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Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Compare the system of football you played in to what you are coaching now.
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PLesu07
Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
monterey, calif. checkin in
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:09 PM EST
Hunter Henzler Receivers at Daingerfield HS (Tx)
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 played in pro style I formation FB belly TE Coach Wide open spread option with some Pro style mixed in
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NickStro66
Mar 1 @ 9:09 PM EST
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1) 1st HS was old school bone/wing, 2nd HS was more spread out. I'd say we now are a balanced spread to run team
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Being a Youngblood, this type of football is what I am used too with spread offense and smaller defensive players
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: I played HS ball in the Bill Yeomen inspired split back veer and now I coach in what we call the power spread
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BretSchnieber
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
Bret Schnieber, WR coach, La Salle HS, Cincinnati, OH
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Defensively light years different played in 4-4 CV 3 In 70's, no stemming no gap control all hit and read-react stuff.
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LCGrizzlyFB
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1) lol night & day different. Pro I power, never pass to spread now.
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HAWKSCOACHGABE
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Double tight wing t, spread 10/20 personnel
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:10 PM EST
Today's football is faster. Not the pure force of power.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Compare the system of football you played in to what you are coaching now.
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 cont: So I went from playing in a system that threw the ball maybe 30 times all season to one that throws 30x a game
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: 90's def.-Played in a 50 front & had very few adjustments. W/offenses in today's game, D must be multiple or O will exploit.
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 cont also ran T formation we ran belly 16 straight times from the -3 to the positive 35
AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: In HS, I played in the Pro I and Wishbone, both with a lot of Option football. In college, we based out of the Wing T.
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jrmyhanson
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1) we ran a poor mans wing T when I played, I now run double wing.
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DrTimony
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
Lurking. David,
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theorist really into coaching and skill acquisition.
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CoachJoshHadden
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1, part 1: Off- played in Pro-I w/ toss sweep, dives, and TE bootleg. Coaching- has been some form of spread with multi looks
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:11 PM EST
HS - 2 TE Straight T. Ran outside veer a bunch. College was Triple Option had an OC change & went pro style. Now Spread w/RPOs
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BretSchnieber
Mar 1 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: actually thought that this morning. Played at Ind St. all 21 personnel, no gun, sprint pass. Coach in spread system now
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 cont. Today base 4-4 CV 3 but stem to multiple front looks all based on gap control & much more aggressive
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no O for me in HS
CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:12 PM EST
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A1 Played: Tony Franklin style, became multiple by necessity: into I-form IZ/OZ. Coach in power based spread-to-run offense.
CoachJoshHadden
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1, part 2: Def- played in a 5-2 Cover 1 and 0 team. Coaching- have done 4-3 and 4-4 mostly 1, 3, and some 2.
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Played in an old school 4-3 cover 3 and now we play a 3-4 cover 4.
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HarlowjohnH
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Grew up running power I, off the tackle in your face. Now the air raid, but will give you a little power in the red zone.
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PLesu07
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
Played: No huddle shotgun spread option, heavy screen game. Coach: pro set offense run heavy offense
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
Players? Team speed? or Game speed?
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:14 PM EST
A2cont: Now, our offense is based out of the Pro I with a lot of Spread worked into the playbook.
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vandyfan13
Mar 1 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: Wasn't allowed to play sadly, so running triple is definitely different than throwing to myself in the yard, haha.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Compare the system of football you played in to what you are coaching now.
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BretSchnieber
Mar 1 @ 9:14 PM EST
Run game was all gap scheme with 1 or 2 TEs. Sprint draw/power/iso. Still use those, but from spread looks w/qb running it
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:14 PM EST
Just rearranging numbers, lol!
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Played in an old school 4-3 cover 3 and now we play a 3-4 cover 4.
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coachmitchell17
Mar 1 @ 9:15 PM EST
John Mitchell CBs Midwest City HS Midwest City OK. True DL/OL @ ♥️, but a skinny guy coach 4 the team. What's happenin fellas?!?
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:15 PM EST
agreed which has heighten the chance of concussion. Contact 3 to 5 yds apart less impact vs. 20 to 30 yds apart
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2: What in your opinion, has been the biggest change in Offense and Defense systems over the last 20 years?
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:16 PM EST
A2 offense definitely gone from power football to speed and finesse
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
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A1 cont. Def- played in a 50, was a true DE/9 tech-"keep people off the ILB" We run a 3-4; similar,but I like the differences
jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1. Played in the Wing - T and Power I. Coaching now in the shotgun no huddle with heavy west coast passing concepts.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Compare the system of football you played in to what you are coaching now.
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CoachMHochard
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2 run to pass. Making plays in space. True sideline to sideline game. Length of game
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2: What in your opinion, has been the biggest change in Offense and Defense systems over the last 20 years?
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HAWKSCOACHGABE
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: The growth of knowledge by coaches in the game of football.
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SRfbshowcase
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: HUDL video review by crews to get better and learn art of officiating. 7man mechanics to keep up with speed
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
A1 played for my dad in HS and we went from 2 tight bone to 4 and 5 wide depending on personnel that year now coachin myself .
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: Throwing the ball more than 5 times a game. Love the change though.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
What do you think provided this?
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HAWKSCOACHGABE
Mar 1 @ 9:17 PM EST
A2: The growth of knowledge by coaches in the game of football.
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
A1: We ran WingT & had a drill "14 perfect plays" 1 miss=start over. Do that today=never get to go home! Def's are too multiple.
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2: Offensively - rules / using the whole field with Spread Offenses / Single Wing type QBs on rise vs drop back/ no huddle
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2: What in your opinion, has been the biggest change in Offense and Defense systems over the last 20 years?
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
Phillip Blacha OL Brookland-Cayce High def late ☹️
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CoachJoshHadden
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
Q2: Pass-heavy offense was unheard of in my HS days. 3,4,5 receivers? Madness! Today, norm.
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
A2. Offense now uses the entire 53 yard width of the field. When was in HS (88-90) you could throw a blanket & cover all 22 guys
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:18 PM EST
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A1 cont2 First coached in a 4-3 over. Very different from what I played I & really made me learn defense more. Was great for me
AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Gotta be the transition of the power run game to the Spread... especially in Texas.
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jrmyhanson
Mar 1 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2) i call it the basketballization of football It's more 1 on 1 now. Number of plays is more important that time of possession
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 1 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2 cont. and we don't get in the bone but are pretty multiple still. Defense has changed from mostly 50 to 3-4 and 4-3
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Just on what I've seen when listening to older coaches and watching old games is the use of whole field from offensive side
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EHSwildcatsfb
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2. I would say the complexity of the football being coached at the high school level especially. Like play combos and concepts.
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SRfbshowcase
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2 cont... lack of young people getting involved with officiating. No more white collared professionals getting involved
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2) O - Formations imo. Most concepts run today are the same. Power, zone, counter. Passing game is air raid or west coast. RPOs
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: On defense it's been from bigger players that can stop pro I ISO and power to smaller, faster players that can cover space
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A1: I played in a wing t/double tight offense and now I coach spread/RPO lol. I'm still a 3 yds a run type of guy
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: cont. Defensively - rules / having to defend as fast more wide open game / changes in tackling / tempo /
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: I feel the development of the utility player into the QB. Opened up the door for speed at every position
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2) Air Coryell slinging resulted in 300 yds/game. Today's game that's a loss
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: RPO & ZoneRead have been IMO the biggest advancements in offensive football "since the forward pass." Incredible ingenuity
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IMFB_Blog
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2) we played in a wild dist in HS. Double wing, wing t, I-Form, and then SG Spread from
@Coachmac8740
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2. I would say the complexity of the football being coached at the high school level especially. Like play combos and concepts.
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coachmitchell17
Mar 1 @ 9:21 PM EST
A1: Speed has definitely changed the game. It has allowed more teams 2 B competitive especially if UR running or zone read.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:22 PM EST
Interesting. What makes high schools the place for such experiments?
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vandyfan13
Mar 1 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: Simplification in calls, faster tempo, combining of systems offensively. Defense, I would say combo/unorthodox coverage?
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:16 PM EST
Q2: What in your opinion, has been the biggest change in Offense and Defense systems over the last 20 years?
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:23 PM EST
Agreed not many 250 LBs playing anymore
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4-4 has turned into 4-2-5 based on type of players used to large degree
CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: On defense it's been from bigger players that can stop pro I ISO and power to smaller, faster players that can cover space
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:24 PM EST
Q3: Who are the innovators you consider to have had the most impact on how football is played and coached today?
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coachjsam
Mar 1 @ 9:24 PM EST
A1: the personnel must be much more athletic due to the amount of field you have to defend
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:24 PM EST
Great answer! Systems can evolve because of the players that are available
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SRfbshowcase
Mar 1 @ 9:23 PM EST
nescessity. You can not recruit must base offense around talent available
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Coach_Grob
Mar 1 @ 9:25 PM EST
A1: Grew up in the Wing-T and then SingleBack Pro. Now Uptempo spread
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CoachJohnson165
Mar 1 @ 9:25 PM EST
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I want to coach OL in future, best way to learn how to coach it? Wrestling coach by trade.
coachboyneDHS
Mar 1 @ 9:25 PM EST
A3-- Gus Malzahn in my opinion
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ahverdejo
Mar 1 @ 9:25 PM EST
A quick plug to any coach not following
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or anyone wanting to learn the game. A great follow to get smarter at football.
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
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a3 the change to pass heavy/finesse style? Take a look at Mumme's coaching tree & IMO that's a huge influence on many places.
SRfbshowcase
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
A3: Sonny Detmer, Steve Van Meter, Hugh Freeze
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coachmitchell17
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: RPO, zone read, & spread is just option football except it's done from shotgun. It's still old school football modernized.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
Thanks! We have a great conversation going tonight!
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ahverdejo
Mar 1 @ 9:25 PM EST
A quick plug to any coach not following
#txhsfbchat
or anyone wanting to learn the game. A great follow to get smarter at football.
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coachjsam
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: Hal Mumme and Gary Patterson come to mind first
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
HS coaches have different players each year forcing adaptation and experimental football. Outside the box survive
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: run to pass and defensively more 3 man fronts and varying coverages
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3 Gus Malzan Urban Meyer chip Kelly
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:27 PM EST
High school coaches are more willing to embrace something new. Think back 2 years ago, No NFL team could stop zone read.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:22 PM EST
Interesting. What makes high schools the place for such experiments?
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:27 PM EST
A3: Mouse Davis and Hal Mumme
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CoachJoshHadden
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Spurrier, Leach, Meyer
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
Great answer! Our systems must be flexible/adaptable to our players...from there they evolve!
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:26 PM EST
HS coaches have different players each year forcing adaptation and experimental football. Outside the box survive
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EHSwildcatsfb
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A2. The use of social media by high school teams in the recruiting process and promotion of program!
#WildcatWay
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3 - Offense - Mumme, Meyer, Mahlzan Defense - LeBeau - Saban - Belicheck
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Mike Leach throwing the ball around everywhere... Chip Kelly with speeding up the game... Urban Meyer, too.
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vandyfan13
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: Briles, Meyer, Saban, Royal, Mumme, Leach, Bryant, Coryell, Noll, Lombardi, LeBeau, Levy, Schnellenberger to name a few.
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:24 PM EST
Q3: Who are the innovators you consider to have had the most impact on how football is played and coached today?
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A3: HS Level - Ladouceur DLS / Rollinson -MD / Bob Johnson - Viego / Nagel - Ashland - LOL most of TX HS - Friday night lights
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:24 PM EST
Q3: Who are the innovators you consider to have had the most impact on how football is played and coached today?
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ahverdejo
Mar 1 @ 9:28 PM EST
A point made from the
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... Hal Mumme's coaching tree must be made of gold based on who's on it and how the game has evolved.
CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: On offense to me is Gus Malzahn. He is originally from Arkansas and honed in his offense here.
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Coach_Grob
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2: The use of technology like Hudl for both sides of the ball. Social media like this is also huge.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3) Innovator - Coryell, Walsh, Carroll
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3) Hal Mumme, Chip Kelly, Gus Malzahn for Xs and Os. Saban, Belichek, and Meyer for off-field culture building
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:30 PM EST
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: cont: My dad was D.C. And played his team in playoffs, give him grief all the time he probably thought his stuff was illegal
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: Mumme, Malzhan, Urban, Saban, Belichick, Wade Phillips, and LaVell Edwards just to name a few big names
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coachfisher_rp
- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: Mouse Davis I think had a lot to do with how its played today as well as Marv Levy running the constant 2 min offense
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: On defense I really like Bud Foster @ VA. Tech and just all he has done while seeing all types of offenses and his afablity
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:32 PM EST
Q4: How far back in football history will you look for play and scheme design to install in your program?
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:32 PM EST
Could not agree with that group of Collegiate Coaches anymore! Off the radar is MSU Spartan guy IMHO
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3) Hal Mumme, Chip Kelly, Gus Malzahn for Xs and Os. Saban, Belichek, and Meyer for off-field culture building
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- Moderator
Mar 1 @ 9:32 PM EST
Agreed! I think you can see something from each of those guys in, or being installed in most programs
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3) Hal Mumme, Chip Kelly, Gus Malzahn for Xs and Os. Saban, Belichek, and Meyer for off-field culture building
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: I'm also gonna throw Mike Leach in as well.
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CoachRmcD60
Mar 1 @ 9:33 PM EST
A4 as far back as I need to I love some throwback wrinkles in an offense
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NairnCraig
Mar 1 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3: Mumme/Leach, Saban, Patterson
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Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4) I have a 1905 Field Yosting playbook that I've looked through if that tells you anything lol
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jrmyhanson
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4) as far as I need to. Now days some coaches are young enough they don't know what a 2 TE offense looks like. 😉
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Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
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Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4: As far as I can go. I love reading books from successful coaches from the generations before me.
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Mar 1 @ 9:32 PM EST
Q4: How far back in football history will you look for play and scheme design to install in your program?
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
Old school Bobby Bowden veer
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Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4: 2010 & 2011 played the Heppner Mustangs 11 hrs bus ride one way - 3 day trip! Unbalanced Single Wing - Yikes -
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CoachBlacha
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4: as far back as it started. Same Xs and Os just different names associated now. Everything has been taken from someone else
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coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A2 Tempo and RPO's have been a big evolution offensively. Player safety continues to evolve as well.
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Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
WOW!!! That's not even available on memiograph!
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
A4) I have a 1905 Field Yosting playbook that I've looked through if that tells you anything lol
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coachjsam
Mar 1 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: as far as I need to go to help my players be successful
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Nothing like looking at "old school" playbooks and seeing what it has. I have used items from those multiple times
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4. Love to look back at those 70s-80s wishbone teams to get some option concepts. Try to morph them into spread sets.
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:35 PM EST
A4: Not too far back with what we do offensively. I really like what Urban Meyer used at Bowling Green and Utah.
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aaron_thornton
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3:Petersen, Harbaugh, and Shaw with creative shifts and getting extra gaps.
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Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
Another innovator...his offense with Charlie Ward impacted our game significantly
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:34 PM EST
Old school Bobby Bowden veer
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: Mumme, Frieze, Franklin, & Rodriguez for offense. Gary Patterson doesn't get enough credit for 4-2-5 explosion.
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CoachMckieJr
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: As far back as I need to in order to gain an edge.
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
A4: rounded up Pop's 80 yrs old and several of coaches still alive his age & had a sit down ea summer on how to handle Mustangs
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coachmitchell17
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: I'll say Parcells & Belicheck when they put Lawrence Taylor @ standup LB/DE let him loose on QBs defensive game changer!!!!
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
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A3 person who has had biggest impact on his game is played today on offense without a doubt is OL coach Alex Gibbs.
coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3 Chip Kelly, Brian Billick, Hal Mumme, and Mike Leach
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:37 PM EST
coaches the 2 TE power, sweep, trap for a year as OL coach. Had 250-300 a game on ground. No one knew what to do!
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Mar 1 @ 9:37 PM EST
A4: I love studying the origins of the West Coast Offense. It is possibly my favorite system.
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:37 PM EST
It's on my school computer. I'll see if I can remember to share it tomorrow.
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:38 PM EST
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a4 As far back as I can. Enjoy seeing diff wrinkles people have. Film &
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is how I spend ton of free time
coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:38 PM EST
Homer Smith lecture from 1980's influenced an empty RPO we had great success with.
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Mar 1 @ 9:38 PM EST
THERE YOU GO!!! Definitely love the shout out to the OL and Alex Gibbs! Zone Blocking!
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
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A3 person who has had biggest impact on his game is played today on offense without a doubt is OL coach Alex Gibbs.
Coach_Grob
Mar 1 @ 9:39 PM EST
A3: So many... Walsh, Mumme, Kelly, Malzahn, Briles, Mazzone & Canada
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Mar 1 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q5: If you can, trace back the development and evolution of your offense and defense. Multiple tweets encouraged
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Mar 1 @ 9:40 PM EST
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Mar 1 @ 9:40 PM EST
You can definitely see "Old School" Football in the schemes of today's offenses
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Mar 1 @ 9:39 PM EST
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A)4 spread offenses at Auburn, Clemson, & SMU were derived from the principles of the Delaware wing-t.
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:41 PM EST
Hey we gotta add Paul Johnson for what he has done to revitalize the option game at college level again!
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Coach_Grob
Mar 1 @ 9:39 PM EST
A3: So many... Walsh, Mumme, Kelly, Malzahn, Briles, Mazzone & Canada
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CoachBJadrosich
Mar 1 @ 9:41 PM EST
@WeAreAFCA
Beau Jadrosich former HC/OL/DL NJ & CA
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:41 PM EST
#OLPride
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Mar 1 @ 9:38 PM EST
THERE YOU GO!!! Definitely love the shout out to the OL and Alex Gibbs! Zone Blocking!
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:36 PM EST
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A3 person who has had biggest impact on his game is played today on offense without a doubt is OL coach Alex Gibbs.
coachmitchell17
Mar 1 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4: Alex Gibbs and his zone blocking made OL play possible for everyone in the game. It makes an average OL look good.
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4: I have a single wing book from Maryland circa 1952. This is one of the diagrams
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 1 @ 9:42 PM EST
found playbook/team rules from granddads teams from the 50s 1 rule stated: do not to talk to girlfriends past Wednesday night 😂
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ejones804
Mar 1 @ 9:43 PM EST
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A2) How lateral the offense stretching its formations plus the extra gaps created via split zone/tight bunch sets
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Mar 1 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5: Our offense is based in the Wing-T. When I came along, we were running the plays out of the I. We have evolved to the spread
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kdoggiu
Mar 1 @ 9:43 PM EST
A3. Guys that I have watched a ton of are Mazzone, Canada, Kevin Wilson, Malzahn
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:43 PM EST
A5: When I started at Houston St. Pius in the mid-00's, we were based out of the Pro I with some 2x2, 3x1, and Empty mixed in.
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wmcaldwell70
Mar 1 @ 9:44 PM EST
Always wanted an option based system. 7 years ago was true flexbone. Now morphed into shotgun veer w/pre & post snap RPOs
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5 - Houston Veer of 70's to Nebraska I Slot Power Option of 80 to early 90s to De La Salle of 00s with sprinkling of June Jones
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Mar 1 @ 9:40 PM EST
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:44 PM EST
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A5: Most of what we do offensively is based off of Malzahn. When we see things we like we work them in/adjust them accordingly
jperry_pearl
Mar 1 @ 9:44 PM EST
I still live by that rule
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 1 @ 9:42 PM EST
found playbook/team rules from granddads teams from the 50s 1 rule stated: do not to talk to girlfriends past Wednesday night 😂
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Mar 1 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5 cont: The coaching tree of our system starts in the old, pre-FNL Odessa Permian offense.
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coachboyneDHS
Mar 1 @ 9:45 PM EST
A5..Malzahn at Tulsa and Auburn. Mike Norvell at Arizona St/Memphis..Rich Rod at Tulane all form the basis of what we do.
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NortheastAD
Mar 1 @ 9:45 PM EST
@coachfisher_rp
we are a wing t program, have been for 11 years, we do incorporate split t plays
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5cont: The same HC hired me here at Austin. He wanted the same offense installed. We had minimal success out of it.
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CoachBurkettSHS
Mar 1 @ 9:46 PM EST
A5: Swarming on defense is as old as football. Our coach showed us Bo Schembechler UM film to demonstrate. We drilled it!
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Mar 1 @ 9:46 PM EST
This would solve A LOT of problems, lol
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D_Mitchell91
Mar 1 @ 9:42 PM EST
found playbook/team rules from granddads teams from the 50s 1 rule stated: do not to talk to girlfriends past Wednesday night 😂
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NortheastAD
Mar 1 @ 9:47 PM EST
@coachfisher_rp
our wing t stays consistent due to the diversity of the system within the dynamics of our program
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L_STONER
Mar 1 @ 9:47 PM EST
A2. the kids today are ALOT bigger and stronger. the advancement in weight training and off season workouts committed all yr.
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Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5cont: We ended up bringing in a Co-OC with a Spread background. We spent last summer meshing our playbooks together.
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
A5 - Defensively
@ServiteSports
of 70's to Lambert & Craig at Washington late 80s thru mid 90's. De La Salle of 00's
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Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
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A1. 30 yrs ago when i was in hs. it was the power I. and the only team that ran the spread was the Houston Oilers..
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Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
I played in a Houston Veer system...92 State Champs baby!
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vandyfan13
Mar 1 @ 9:49 PM EST
A5: We're sort of an 8 man version of Oregon offensively. Not a whole lot of diff defense in 8 man, so whoever played man 1st...
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM EST
- 2007 & 2011 State Champs too baby!
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great HS offense IMHO
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Coach_Clopton
Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6 - College Level the scheme determines who you recruit. High School coaches constantly have to tweak scheme to fit personnel
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5cont: We put together a Multiple set offense containing a power run and quick screen game. We had lots of success out of it.
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coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM EST
It is a combination of many systems melted together and molded to fit our personnel. Option concepts married to traditional runs
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vandyfan13
Mar 1 @ 9:50 PM EST
A6: Each should develop the other.
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Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
Q6: Do you believe systems influence player development or players influence system development?
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM EST
A6. I think it depends on the coach. Some will tailor workouts toward their system not players. Others will change system.
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qbcoach_bell
Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM EST
A6) at HS level players determine scheme strategy. Constant change in personnel. Successful schemes will draw similar types
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CoachKizer
Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM EST
A6: I believe players influence system development. Got to put kids in best position to succeed which leads to system develop.
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5. Again Alex Gibbs lol. Whole offense based off his developments
#zone
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 cont: Next season, we should have lots more success with the personnel we have coming back and more time in the playbook.
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Coach_Timmerman
Mar 1 @ 9:52 PM EST
A6) In my experience systems influence kids more off the field (culture). Kids influence systems more on the field (Xs and Os).
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:52 PM EST
A6 Cont'd. changed jobs 2 years ago. Team. Was tailoring system to the opponents they would be playing.
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coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:52 PM EST
Our option for concepts evolved from run-run to run-pass, to run-run-pass and pass-pass-run
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kdawgswift
Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6: Truthfully BOTH coaches believe in systems & effort to develop that player, but good coaches have to adapt to players also
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Mar 1 @ 9:48 PM EST
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Coach_Grob
Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6: Players skill set makes us adapt scheme.
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:53 PM EST
A6 Cont'd 2. New region had more size and physicality. More strength and power focused movements in workouts.
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Mar 1 @ 9:54 PM EST
A6: I believe a good system has the ability to adapt to the players available in the program.
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coachvint
Mar 1 @ 9:54 PM EST
Our option concepts evolved from run-run to run-pass, to run-run-pass and pass-pass-run
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jrob8728
Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6 Cont'd 3. This was different than the speed and quickness of the region they had been in two years previous.
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AHSCoachSoria
Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6: The kids most definitely influence the system.
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6 I feel certain systems lend them selves to certain players ie spread/power. I think wingT & OZ systems can use any player
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CoachHenzler
Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
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a6 Both schools I've worked at have been less than 350 HS enrollment- have to adjust to players. Let your athletes be athletes
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Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6: Players influence the adaptations the system must make in order to be successful and compete
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Mar 1 @ 9:56 PM EST
Agreed. Some systems don't really need to adapt. Look at Paul Johnson's flexbone at Navy and now Georgia Tech
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thecoachvogt
Mar 1 @ 9:55 PM EST
A6 I feel certain systems lend them selves to certain players ie spread/power. I think wingT & OZ systems can use any player
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Mar 1 @ 9:57 PM EST
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Mar 1 @ 9:58 PM EST
A6. Nothing worse than being 2 TE i- formation power team and averaging 200 on OL.
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