#PBLchat Archive
#PBLchat is a weekly chat that focuses on different topics related to education and Project Based Learning.
Tuesday December 6, 2016
8:00 PM EST
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Question one coming up in one minute….
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
Hi! Emily for NY.
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julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:00 PM EST
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Grove City College student, majoring in Education here and ready to learn!
#gccedu
inspirepassion
Dec 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Charlene from Chicagoland.
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coach and out-of-school PBL facilitator.
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Q1: How do you prioritize project topics tested courses?
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dunham_eric
Dec 6 @ 8:01 PM EST
Hi all, looking forward to new insights on standardized assessment outcomes in a PBL model
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:02 PM EST
Glad to see so many folks on for
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- welcome!
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
A1 Try to cluster standards that make sense especially w/ other subject areas. Also, sometimes certain times of year work best
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HimesMakayla
Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
Hi! I am a pre-service teacher at Grove City College!
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remyrobitaille
Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM EST
A1: Content you know that will most likely show up on the assessment should be considered for project topics
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Love that you are thinking interdisciplinary
@starfishemily
! Any examples you could share?
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
tkfuller
Dec 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
Teresa here PBL facilitator in AR
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dunham_eric
Dec 6 @ 8:04 PM EST
A1: review standards and pick out essential standards that vertically align with other subject courses
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edutwitt
Dec 6 @ 8:05 PM EST
Great to see you on
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@tkfuller
!
In reply to @tkfuller
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
When you are picking
@durham_eric
, do you pick and cluster or rewrite your own powerstandards?
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In reply to @durham_eric
KristaMclark
Dec 6 @ 8:06 PM EST
Hey Lady! Missed you at
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!
In reply to @tkfuller
remyrobitaille
Dec 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Love this blog from
@hortonalix
&
@edutwitt
on deciding what material is most worthy of attention
https://t.co/aqjJjQMART
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In reply to @HortonAlix, @edutwitt
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
Digital Serfs?
https://t.co/q24xnbbIPQ
or
https://t.co/atjB8RnO0w
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#Latic
In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Oooh! Like that
@StarfishEmily
! Looking for ways to amplify key content by making interdisciplinary connections is great!
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
HimesMakayla
Dec 6 @ 8:08 PM EST
Thanks for sharing! This looks like an awesome resource that I can use when I have my own classroom!
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In reply to @remyrobitaille
bubricks_rubric
Dec 6 @ 8:09 PM EST
Mad props to
@hightechhigh
and
@michaelfklein
4 sharing/doing awesome
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great projects going on across all contents and grades!
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In reply to @hightechhigh, @michaelfklein
julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
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A1 By using standards that correlate with essential information that the students will have to learn in different areas of learning
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:10 PM EST
Q2 coming up in just a min - get in those last thoughts on aligning content in the design phase!
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edutwitt
Dec 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
This has proven as valuable for veteran teachers as newbies
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remyrobitaille
Dec 6 @ 8:07 PM EST
A1: Love this blog from
@hortonalix
&
@edutwitt
on deciding what material is most worthy of attention
https://t.co/aqjJjQMART
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In reply to @HortonAlix, @edutwitt
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
Q2: How do you incorporate test taking skills into authentic projects?
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:12 PM EST
Clustering standards in a way that leads to a real world relevant problem for the group of students you have at the time
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tkfuller
Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
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A1 I try to cover foundation in depth that allow me to touch on others
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
A2 Formative Assessments and small group mini lessons for various needs
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Love that!
@tkfuller
How do you determine that foundation?
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In reply to @tkfuller
rmjohnson45
Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM EST
Thank you to the
@nsvf
team for coming by
@NewTechHigh
today!
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#rethinkhighschool
In reply to @nsvf, @NewTechHigh
SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
A1: Choose topics that give Ss V&C, align to the curriculum, teach essential skills and knowledge & meet standards in the process
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tkfuller
Dec 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
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in biology there are keys concepts that build well
HimesMakayla
Dec 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
What a wonderful idea! Thanks for sharing!
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:15 PM EST
A2 Deep critical thinking skills during PBL or ALU always give Ss a leg on standardized testing
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julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
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A2 You can work on critical thinking & how to solve problems by having different experiment tables with questions & projects to do
KristaMclark
Dec 6 @ 8:16 PM EST
A2: to quote “what gets measured, matters” applies here. Reconsidering the Role of Quizzing in PBL
https://t.co/uChzYe9tbw
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SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:17 PM EST
Scaffolding the projects through the curriculum, building knowledge and skills!
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tkfuller
Dec 6 @ 8:14 PM EST
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in biology there are keys concepts that build well
tkfuller
Dec 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2 with us switching to act aspire is all about reading graphs and primary sources so that plays well with pbl
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HimesMakayla
Dec 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
A2: I would use projects that foster critical thinking skills.
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:18 PM EST
Ss can create to put them in the mind test makers & 1’s that gives immediate feedback & prescribed next steps
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:19 PM EST
Excited to hear ppls's thinking that
@KristaMclark
- hope it shows traditional assessment redone as "assessment for learning"
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In reply to @KristaMclark
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
Like that idea
@StarfishEmily
- I worked with a school that approached it by treating the test as a literary genre!
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:20 PM EST
Q3 coming soon...
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remyrobitaille
Dec 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
A2: Test-style questions can be good warm-ups or part of workshop exit tickets
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:21 PM EST
Great thought
@HimesMakayla
Might be interesting to analyze past tests to see what kind of critical thinking shows up and how.
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In reply to @HimesMakayla
HMWDesign_Bot
Dec 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
#HMW
learn from administrator time for reflection?
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:22 PM EST
sounds amazing
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:23 PM EST
Q3: How might you help students approach the test to lower anxiety and address fixed mindsets?
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:24 PM EST
Ss critique & analyze the test & write their own to deepen their knowledge & require even more rigor
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In reply to @newtechnetwork, @HimesMakayla
KristaMclark
Dec 6 @ 8:25 PM EST
A3: Good tips from
@MindShiftKQED
to ease the angst
https://t.co/eB5cbVnOj8
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In reply to @MindShiftKQED
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:26 PM EST
A3 Change fixed mindsets through solving real problems in the world using content and building confidence.
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AmySayers65
Dec 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A3:It's important we create a culture around testing where students see it as an opportunity to show the great things they know.
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SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
A3: Have Ss create Qs as they build their project use them as practice, incorporate them into assessment
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:27 PM EST
Love it
@StarfishEmily
- what about the kid who says "I'm bad at test taking"?
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
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A3 You could use assimilation and project based practice quizzes to get them ready for the test
AndrewBiros
Dec 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
A3: Show previous tests and have Ss re-write Qs. Or have them use Q stems for topics they care about.
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:29 PM EST
Really like that idea - might help tchrs approach the test differently, even if they have valid concerns.
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In reply to @AmySayers65
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Have them build tests & Reflection journals help them see how their mindset changes over time
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
Like the idea of mining old tests for question stems. Helps them be more analytical about what they are being asked!
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In reply to @AndrewBiros
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
How would you explain assimilation in that context to a newbie?
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In reply to @julialenawood74
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
Turns out a little pre-writing about concerns can be an effective strategy
https://t.co/R3EEk4xNsY
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
You all are going great! Q4 is on deck!
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
Q4: Do you study the test your kids will take? If so, how do you approach that analysis? Any tips?
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KathJensen
Dec 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
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@julialenawood74
What is an assimilation quiz and how do you use it?
In reply to @julialenawood74
julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
Paiget’s idea that you can connect existing schema 2 the new schema then the child will b able 2 learn it better
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
So activating prior knowledge as a bridge from what they know to what they need to know? Sounds like PBL! :)
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In reply to @julialenawood74
SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A4: Familiarity with assessment helps Ts ensure the topic is throughly explored and mastered, set up success!
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KathJensen
Dec 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
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A4: I look for patterns in wording so that students can be exposed to that style - also quirky requirements in answer rubrics.
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
A4 Sometimes just as simple as breaking down your standards and making sure you hit the content limits
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EduGladiators
Dec 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
#EduGladiators
tackles the fierce convo of leading & growing in multi-gen schools!
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#k12PRchat
#MdEdChat
#nced
#njed
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
I have been know to take old released tests myself and then think about what the learning needs to look like to find success
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RossCoops31
Dec 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
New post: 5 Reasons Your Rubric Needs a Makeover
#HackingPBL
#education
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#ctedu
https://t.co/Zsjhr6TxmB
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
Love seeking out patterns in wording - simple but powerful for helping kids show what they know
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In reply to @KathJensen
julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Assimilation quiz would be a quiz where the child would have to use old schema to connect it the new schema
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In reply to @KathJensen
julialenawood74
Dec 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
Exactly!!
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
Love this - whether we like 'em or not, taking the tests our kids take is a great - content and empathy insight!
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In reply to @StarfishEmily
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
Looking ahead to our last Q - any questions YOU have or go to resources to share?
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newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
Q5: What are your go-to talking points when advocating for better testing or assessment? Esp with non-educators.
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SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
https://t.co/PDZqaStT50
Ts can find it all here :)
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dunham_eric
Dec 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
analyze released test ?s and expose students to style of ?s and do out loud crit thinking about how to solve.
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A5: Assessment needs to reflect learning on every level, and mastery of essential knowledge
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StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A5 True assessment should assess how Ss would use the content in real life like a PBL or ALU
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AndrewBiros
Dec 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
A5: "How often are you required to take a test at your job?"
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@newtechnetwork
In reply to @newtechnetwork
KathJensen
Dec 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
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Need success stories of PBL w/ standardized tests. Many teachers say "no PBL, must lecture and drill to get through content".
SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
Change your words, change your mindset: "Yes PBL, Must not drill and lecture to get through content"
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KathJensen
Dec 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
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Need success stories of PBL w/ standardized tests. Many teachers say "no PBL, must lecture and drill to get through content".
KathJensen
Dec 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
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A5 Assessment needs to be about process skills - Practices of Sci/Eng & CrossCutting Concepts - not factoids.
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
@KathJensen
True! And stories exist though schools are sometimes reluctant. Not what they value nor emphasize. Need a balance.
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In reply to @KathJensen
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
Trust in the process and don’t give up too early is the advice I was given when I started
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In reply to @newtechnetwork, @KathJensen
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
Moving in on the end of our
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- that went fast! Closing thoughts or take-aways about testing and PBL?
SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
@KathJensen
We can encourage Ts to attempt, and learn from the failures,use them as opportunities to revise the next PBL
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In reply to @KathJensen
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
Using a transfer task instead of a multiple choice gives you a better idea of what Ss know.
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SusZanti5
Dec 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
@newtechnetwork
Thanks for the insightful chat, it was grand!
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
StarfishEmily
Dec 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
@newtechnetwork
That was a great chat. What’s up for the next one?
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In reply to @newtechnetwork
newtechnetwork
- Moderator
Dec 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
A5: We'd be remiss if we didn't get assessment gadfly James Popham in on this:
https://t.co/IcvDkoQCUf
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johnlBIE
Dec 6 @ 9:00 PM EST
Beyond Test Scores: Building Project Management Skills with
#PBL
https://t.co/j8KV1zQDbq
#EdChat
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