#DevDiscuss Archive


Tuesday August 21, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • bendhalpern Aug 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Getting enough sleep really helps. That's for sure. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • DaveVanderburg Aug 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    When if comes to motivation often the hardest part is getting started. I find if I push myself to take the first step then I often get into a flow. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    i'm gonna follow this discussion for the next hour because I need motivation hahahuhu #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    How I stay motivated: 1. Know when to take a break 2. Try to find balance (non tech hobbies) 3. Change it up (your desk, your text editor, your environment) 4. Be lazy for a night 5. Do some little todos to build the momentum #DevDiscuss
  • isaacandsuch Aug 21 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Motivation is a trend, not a moment. It's tightly coupled to your long-term stress levels and work/life balance. A short vacation won't fix it. An off day or week is normal; any longer than that means you need to take better care of yourself. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Motivation can be effected by a lot of things. It could be the problem you’re working on. Maybe it’s not your favorite. It could be you’re tired of your office. Go work in a meeting room or another floor. I used to do this all the time. #DevDiscuss
  • TheOriginalBPC Aug 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    What helps me stay motivated is just taking a minute to remember why I am doing what I am doing when I need it and listening to podcasts. Hearing and reading people’s stories reminds me that if they can do it I can too #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    It helps to be honest with yourself and your team. It’s ok to be less motivated some days. Don’t beat yourself up for it. If you’re in a leadership position, don’t beat your team up for it. Slow and steady wins the race. #DevDiscuss
  • IgnoreIntuition Aug 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Lately I have found this exceedingly difficult. #Devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    I am going to break this up into parts because I have tried a lot of things. I try to stay motivated by delineating work stuff from the rest of my life. Including side projects and side learning. That way, my feelings about work don’t seep I to the rest of my life #devdiscuss
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    If you’re one who likes to code at night in addition to your day job, take the night off (or the weekend or the week). Don’t force yourself to be motivated repeatedly. Your productivity is a long term game. #DevDiscuss
  • bendhalpern Aug 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    For a lot of really helpful posts on motivation and adjacent dev health topics, check out posts from @_PatrickGod, like this one: #DevDiscuss https://t.co/gl3uXxAbVR
  • whereischrissy Aug 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Setting specific, realistic goals for myself and checking in on progress regularly helps a lot. Also scheduling work patterns that maximize my productivity/minimize burnout. (Of course, it really helps when you have managers who understand and support this! 😁) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • thecurlycoder Aug 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Yes, getting that momentum going is so key for me! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @DaveVanderburg, @ThePracticalDev
  • venikunche Aug 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Thinking of the end goal or result keeps me motivated. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Factors that affect motivation: confidence (including impostor syndrome), and seeing progress, big or small. This is going to take me on a tangent. Follow along. #devdiscuss
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    I have been having a rough few weeks with times where I didn’t feel like I was making any impact and imagining “is this all I got?” On a late train home, I was listening to the latest episode of @CodeNewbies where the guest took 5 YEARS to get the job he wanted #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @CodeNewbies
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    The Terminator has some good words about not beating yourself up. This comment is in regards to someone struggling with depression and not being motivated to hit the gym. #DevDiscuss
  • GaryAsh1969 Aug 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    I have list of easy tasks. Some are within current projects, some are tweaks to my dev machine 😀 When my motivation is lack it let myself do one of those before what I’m stuck on. #DevDiscuss
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I can attest to this! And sometimes you're the only one thinking that you should keep plowing forward even if you're really tired, when in reality even the people around you, your team mates, are telling you to take it easy. #DevDiscuss
    • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
      It helps to be honest with yourself and your team. It’s ok to be less motivated some days. Don’t beat yourself up for it. If you’re in a leadership position, don’t beat your team up for it. Slow and steady wins the race. #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Oops, didn’t get the #devdiscuss part down right. Oh well. Where was I going with this? Just keep going, a little at a time. Bad moments do not last forever.
  • venikunche Aug 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Staying motivated when depressed has been hard though. I haven't yet figured how to stay motivated during those times because I stop caring about the goal. #DevDiscuss
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    This, and repeat the following: "Streaks don't matter." Streaks are not habits. Break a streak, and it's over. Miss a day of a habit, and you'll come back. #DevDiscuss
    • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      If you’re one who likes to code at night in addition to your day job, take the night off (or the weekend or the week). Don’t force yourself to be motivated repeatedly. Your productivity is a long term game. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Great topic! For me, thinking about why I'm doing what I do, my end game, helps to kick me in the butt and get motivated. #devdiscuss
  • GaryAsh1969 Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Another thing I do sometimes is acknowledge I’m not motivated TODAY (the important part is ONE day). For that day I catch up on e-mails and other paperwork #DevDiscuss
  • orlandoigd Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    My motivation is pure momentum during the wall hitting times. Succeeding in bringing ideas to life sparks my creativity, which gives me purposeful motivation. I've tried to quit, yet I always return. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • laurieontech Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I keep motivated by always looking at a new challenge. New technologies, new engineering area, impressing a new client. Find the unique part of what you’re working on and focus on that! #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    That last part (and my therapist had helped me with this) Everyday, I have done the best that I can. If I find that the motivation meter is down, the universe will not change it. I can. That is just me and my experience, of course. #devdiscuss
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I've found a visual progress tracker has been really helpful. I'm using a blank monthly calendar b/c not a lot of space per day. I only record some stuff, like "run" or tracking work hours (contractor) or fun stuff (movie). Can easily see/track trends. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Even if I try and fall short at least I tried and am further along than I was before. No action is a lose / lose #DevDiscuss
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Usually, deadlines work as a motivator for me to finish things. It puts me in a lot of stress, yes, but I certainly get more done if I'm aware of when I need to deliver it VS it being an open-ended thing. #DevDiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    And seeing success stories of other devs is a good motivator too! #DevDiscuss
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Yes! I love a visual tracker as well! It is so satisfying in those moments where you feel stuck #devdiscuss
    In reply to @akajb84
  • dangolant Aug 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Recently I’ve been trying taking breaks. Like just working on guiltlessly chilling in non-social settings #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @derekjhopper, @ThePracticalDev
  • ballpointcarrot Aug 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I... Don't. 😔 This is a point I struggle with often. My biggest motivators are filling a visible need, and making sure those I work with aren't held behind because of me. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    And sometimes saying "I'm really f**king good at what I do" or "I can do this" is enough to get past self doubt and imposter syndrome #DevDiscuss
  • laurieontech Aug 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    The other comment I’ll make on motivation is that emotions are temporary. Frustration, excitement, etc. It motivates me to always be working towards that next thrill of success. That can be a small victory or a big one, either what. #DevDiscuss
  • philnash Aug 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    I was going to say regular vacation. I just had 4 very busy weeks followed by a week off and I've come back raring to go! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    This is good for short term things though, I think? Because if I do this too much too long, I start to get tired and either not care enough to finish something, or just damage myself further by finishing something & end up even more in a position not to do anything #DevDiscuss
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    When I struggle with tasks some days (working from home, this is not uncommon), I sometimes use the pomodoro method as a test. If I can't focus for a single one, I put that task aside for now. Result is usually worse to try push through, then come back. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • psema4 Aug 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    This is an important point; as an indicator, I whole-heartedly agree. Also important is that as an action (ie. to motivate), it not only lives in the moment but can truly shine, particularly when contagious :) #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @isaacandsuch, @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A question for those in #DevDiscuss now: do you think that environment is a factor that can help motivate (or de-motivate)? Where do you usually find yourself more motivated to work? Or are you the type who can work anywhere?
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    In moments when I am facing impostor syndrome (which is a huge factor in motivation), I think @MinaMarkham said “I am not a good enough actor to fool an entire industry” and that was a WORD. #devdiscuss
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    👍👍 I also remind people (and myself) all the time, especially before presentations, that no one knows what you've done as well as you do. I think we easily forget our own knowledge and raise others artificially. You *can* do it. :) #DevDiscuss
    • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      And sometimes saying "I'm really f**king good at what I do" or "I can do this" is enough to get past self doubt and imposter syndrome #DevDiscuss
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    That makes sense to me. Long term deadlines, if treated the wrong way, can turn into long term crunch mode. If you’re sprinting all the time, you’re gonna get tired. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • ASpittel Aug 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I'm especially good at working at coffee shops. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Personally I find myself more motivated to do work when I'm NOT at home, even during the times I did have the option to work at home. Home just drains me too much that I can't really get myself to finish things related to work. #DevDiscuss
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Put me in an open plan office space and my productivity will hit 0 and my anxiety will hit 10. I feel like I'm being constantly spied on. Quiet space (library, home office) and I'm good. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • anthakingston Aug 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    I try to find a way to incorporate something new (tech or concept) into a project. If I am using the same stack and approach all the time, I get bored. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    I've been thinking about motivation by way of self-promotion / celebrating victories. I keep a kudos list in my #bujo of small wins which keep me motivated when I'm feeling discouraged. @lara_hogan's Donut Manifesto also comes to mind #DevDiscuss https://t.co/6EjASvtITK
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Yeah. Breaks between sprints are important as well! Got reminded about that since I've started going to the gym recently haha 😆#devdiscuss
    In reply to @derekjhopper
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    what do you think makes coffee shops a better place for you to be more productive or more motivated than anywhere else? 😮 #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ASpittel
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    I love this a lot. Vacations should be fun, not only used as a method of decompression. You have to find ways to decompress more regularly than vacation. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @isaacandsuch, @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Aug 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Wow, that's a really cool idea! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @lara_hogan
  • venikunche Aug 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Same here. I more productive at coffee shops. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ASpittel, @ChiSenires
  • ASpittel Aug 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    For better or for worse, I'm really motivated by positive feedback. I keep a folder on my computer with screenshots and typed quotes of nice things people have said! I'm also really motivated by getting stuff done, so I normally focus on smaller projects. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ASpittel Aug 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    That's a great question -- I think its the "get this done and then you can go home" nature of working there? #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Environment can be a factor, yes. For me, a change of scenery and some good tunes and do wonders. I can technically work from anywhere, but I have preference. Sound is big for me. If it's too loud, too much audible conflict, I find it hard to think and focus #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires, @ASpittel
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    I need to find a good coffee shop to work at on Saturdays/Sundays. I’m always anxious that my stuff will get stolen if I go to the bathroom. I do a lot of good work when I leave the house. Naps are my crutch when I am stuck. #devdiscuss
  • izgerij Aug 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    I've been thinking about staying motivated on open-ended projects. How I'm managing: - Periods of focus time where I push forward - Regular breaks to give myself time to process - Break down next steps into stories when possible, & take on bite size chunks at a time #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Time for #DevDiscuss! Tonight's topic is STAYING MOTIVATED! Something we all need to do. Ho do you stay motivated? What factors affect motivation? What's your responsibility and what's on your team or leadership?
  • shannon_crabill Aug 21 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Building momentum is good! I do this too #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ASpittel, @ThePracticalDev
  • Programazing Aug 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Check out my website/blog at https://t.co/4DAQVTUa1s #DevDiscuss
  • laurieontech Aug 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Yes to both of these! I used to think those types of motivation were childish but I think it was just making myself ok with the fact that the working world isn’t quick to give praise. We should all be better at telling people when they’ve done well! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ASpittel, @ThePracticalDev
  • izgerij Aug 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    In general the most important thing that I've learned is that it's not really about motivation at all - it's about persistence. No one is always motivated. But you can choose to be persistent & you can choose to practice self-care so that doing so doesn't drain you. #DevDiscuss
  • BekahHW Aug 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    I stay motivated by looking at the past, the progress I made to get to the present, and the shrinking space between the present and the future goals. Feeling stuck is frustrating. I’m learning to ask for help, take a break, or rethink or remap the part I’m stuck on. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Find someone else who's working and sit near them. Then, when you need to step away, ask if they'll keep an eye on your stuff. I find people are usually really open to this. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • mgranbois Aug 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Staying motivated is hard and it comes and goes. I find I’m not motivated when I’m tired. I set a schedule and do my best to stick to it. I know I won’t meet it all the time. But I don’t beat myself up and get back to the routine as soon as possible. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • DanFellini Aug 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Don't count on anyone else for your motivation. It's up to you to keep yourself motivated, happy and passionate. #devdiscuss
  • derekjhopper Aug 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Breaking things down is one I didn’t realize helps with my own motivation. Thanks for mentioning it. When I break things down, the problems tend to get better understood and more simple to wrap my head around. This must lead to motivation. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @izgerij
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Another thing that gets me motivated is after watching a great anime or movie! The adrenaline from certain shows really gets me going 😄 #DevDiscuss
  • julichala Aug 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A good work environment, balance between personal and professional life, trust, mentory. If you are the person who knows the most in the place, you are in the wrong place. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Also, motivation ebbs and flows. I have yet to meet anyone who stays motivated to do what they do, regardless of passion 100% of the time. #devdiscuss
  • ChiSenires Aug 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    The show doesn't even have to be related to what I really do at work; usually it's because the show has a character is the "we'll be able to do this no matter what!" kind of person, and it eventually rubs off on me for a while 😆 #DevDiscuss
  • gottabgb Aug 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    #devdiscuss I stay motivated by tracking how much less time tasks take after I write my code, and by always having smaller projects that can be implemented quickly among larger projects. No substitute for seeing your work actually make a difference, & colleagues are so grateful!
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • jmdembe Aug 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A lecturer I had in college once said that motivation is intrinsic. No one else can motivate you. Thoughts? #devdiscuss
  • saltnburnem Aug 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    There is a local event that is being thrown here in Metro Detroit. One day, single track with great speakers from the Midwest. Tickets are on sale https://t.co/7FM59BeyJW #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Aug 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • akajb84 Aug 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Intrinsic motivation is the best (and longest lasting). But extrinsic has it's place. Games and gamification works through extrinsic motivation. But, *great* games keep you there from intrinsic motivation. 🕹️ #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @jmdembe
  • ASpittel Aug 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    I wrote out some design tips for developers! https://t.co/NAtGaT9ob2 #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • Nosidotgif Aug 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    If you're feeling demotivated but switching your focus is impossible or makes you anxious, look for things that will help tangentially and are different enough to feel like a blank page. Specially if it won't take much time. #DevDiscuss
  • philnash Aug 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Speaking of motivation, I managed to write my first blog post in a few months! https://t.co/MfxNvqZASD #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev