#IOLchat Archive
#IOLchat meets Wednesdays at 12PM ET to discuss trends and issues in online education.
Wednesday March 9, 2016
12:00 PM EST
IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM EST
@descataluna
Glad to have you with us!
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:)
IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM EST
Welcome to this week's
#openeducationwk
edition of
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:) Who's joining in today?
https://t.co/kGGSeMZ5AD
descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM EST
;-) Sweet!
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MrsMurat
Mar 9 @ 12:00 PM EST
Have 3 minutes? Could you help my Ss? TY! Pls RT.
https://t.co/XONb49eN2M
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#ldchat
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:02 PM EST
Hello all! Instructional Designer, coordinator of elearning - happy to be able to join this week!!
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:03 PM EST
@OHMWelker
Hi, Mike! Great to have you here. :)
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Emily_J_Fox
Mar 9 @ 12:04 PM EST
Hello! I'm glad to join the
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today. I work as a virtual learning admission counselor at a community college.
IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:05 PM EST
@Emily_J_Fox
Welcome, Emily! Thanks for joining in. :)
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:05 PM EST
@Emily_J_Fox
also at a community college here - North Central State College in mansfield, OH
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openeducationwk
Mar 9 @ 12:06 PM EST
RT
@iolblog
: Welcome to this week's
#openeducationwk
edition of
#IOLchat
:) Who's joining in today?
https://t.co/OadoEXwklf
OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:07 PM EST
#IOLCHAt
staring now -- Open Education!
https://t.co/5zXFDPvmsM
openeducationwk
Mar 9 @ 12:06 PM EST
RT
@iolblog
: Welcome to this week's
#openeducationwk
edition of
#IOLchat
:) Who's joining in today?
https://t.co/OadoEXwklf
IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:07 PM EST
It's time to get started! ...Q1 is coming up ...
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camischwartz18
Mar 9 @ 12:07 PM EST
@IOLblog
Cami Schwartz currently studying to be an elementary teacher! Hoping to learn more about current trends!
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#gvtech
#tc
allchats
Mar 9 @ 12:08 PM EST
These twitter chats are happening NOW [12pm EST]:
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,
#BufferChat
,
#StartupChats
,
#HCbiz
[only 30min long],
#PatientPref
Emily_J_Fox
Mar 9 @ 12:09 PM EST
@OHMWelker
Glad to connect! I'm from Harrisburg Area Community College.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:09 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Hello Cami! Thanks for being here. :)
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:10 PM EST
Q1) "Open" can be interpreted in many ways. How would you describe "open pedagogy?"
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:12 PM EST
From what I've read, it seems "open" can be equated to a level of freedom; and with freedom there's an amount of responsibility.
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:12 PM EST
A1) Real world as lab and resource to remix for solutions??
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:14 PM EST
@descataluna
"With great power..." ;)
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:14 PM EST
Yes! Ideas about open pedagogy ...
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https://t.co/423qFyDPQt
OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:12 PM EST
A1) Real world as lab and resource to remix for solutions??
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:15 PM EST
@descataluna
Like the word "freedom" here - so pedagogy could mean freedom on both teaching and learning sides :)
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Emily_J_Fox
Mar 9 @ 12:15 PM EST
A1: I think of open pedagogy as free education resources available for all
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:15 PM EST
The 4Rs involved lead to a method of teaching that is significant and practical to our communities....yes significant to the world.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:16 PM EST
@OHMWelker
A real-world component could "open" the learning experience to what's beyond the classroom. Like!
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camischwartz18
Mar 9 @ 12:16 PM EST
Created from many options and access to various resources that give a more well-rounded & meaningful experience to students
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:17 PM EST
Meaningful, valuable, memorable hopefully
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:17 PM EST
@Emily_J_Fox
Absolutely - open resources are in many cases free to access and use without a fee. Good addition!
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:17 PM EST
4Rs: free to reuse, remix, revise, and redistribute
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:18 PM EST
#openeducation
#openpedagody
RT
@descataluna
4Rs: free to reuse, remix, revise, and redistribute
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:19 PM EST
@camischwartz18
love the idea of well-rounded = beyond limits of soley instructor knowledge & Meaningful as "Authentic"/ real world
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:19 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Agree!
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:20 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Great point here about having options and variety - definitely a possibility with open pedagogy!
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:22 PM EST
Q2) How might we (or do you) include an open approach in classes and assignments?
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:22 PM EST
@IOLblog
@descataluna
Freedom for teaching = tearing down barriers/ ivory towers;
#scary
-- sacred cows at risk!! ;)
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:24 PM EST
@OHMWelker
@descataluna
Scary indeed. Open pedagogy calls for change from the norm. Not welcomed by all.
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:25 PM EST
A2) Change assignments to drive at the local -- PLACE-BASED Ed? Apply content to ID local problem/ solution to address...???
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samiranghosh
Mar 9 @ 12:26 PM EST
@IOLblog
A1. Not limiting the learning resources, adapt to the latest tech and strategies leveraging more creative learning
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:27 PM EST
A2) and or focus on collaboration-shared understanding making? IE 5 most helpful videos on YouTube to illus./xplain concept x?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:27 PM EST
@samiranghosh
Hello, Samiran! Welcome back!
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jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:27 PM EST
Sorry I'm late...better late than never...conference call ran long =(
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:27 PM EST
RT
@samiranghosh
A1. Not limiting the learning resources, adapt to the latest tech and strategies leveraging more creative learning
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:28 PM EST
Open approaches might include free choices of "remixing" the content, maybe? Or variables in a science or inquiry based project
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:28 PM EST
@jshamsy
Hello Jennifer! no apologies necessary, great to see you :)
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:28 PM EST
@samiranghosh
@IOLblog
wonder if limits of *starter* learning rsrcs = good foil starting point? "What gaps do we have?"
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camischwartz18
Mar 9 @ 12:29 PM EST
A2 Seek out unique learning opportunities, encourage students to do more than find a popular book/website about a topic
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samiranghosh
Mar 9 @ 12:29 PM EST
@IOLblog
glad to join
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after a long time
jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:30 PM EST
Agree with
@descataluna
-- different options/create own ending approach - same objectives - different way to achieve based on pref
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:31 PM EST
A2...
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https://t.co/NzqLLNBI98
descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:28 PM EST
Open approaches might include free choices of "remixing" the content, maybe? Or variables in a science or inquiry based project
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:31 PM EST
Ideas for
#OpenPedagogy
!
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https://t.co/NGQG38VXIr
jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:30 PM EST
Agree with
@descataluna
-- different options/create own ending approach - same objectives - different way to achieve based on pref
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:32 PM EST
@jshamsy
@descataluna
Straight out of Chickering Gamson 7 best Practices - "Support Diverse talents/ Ways of Learning"!
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:33 PM EST
A2) might incl free choices of "remixing" the content? Or variables in a science or inquiry based project
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https://t.co/NzqLLNBI98
descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:28 PM EST
Open approaches might include free choices of "remixing" the content, maybe? Or variables in a science or inquiry based project
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jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:33 PM EST
Open pedagogy seems to includes greater willingness to open silos/not be so rigid in how we learn - just that we meet objectives
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:33 PM EST
A lot of helpful tweets here focused on flexible options, choice, creativity. Sounds like a breath of fresh air. :)
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#opened
OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:34 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Mind map/ COnstructivist approach of a shared wiki/ hashtag to hook resources onto? Incentivize early responses...
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:35 PM EST
In my history class use a scavenger hunt where students have to find in antique store/ real world artifcat to illustrate an era
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:36 PM EST
A2) "Open"the content or product of the assignments and maybe have connections to students' lives, practical problems
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samiranghosh
Mar 9 @ 12:36 PM EST
@IOLblog
A2. Integrate the content with real-world scenarios, let students do self-evaluation
#openeducationwk
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:37 PM EST
@samiranghosh
@IOLblog
self-eval but around some clear standards/ criteria??
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:38 PM EST
A2. Students produce the assignments' rubric facilitated by the teacher...could this be?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:38 PM EST
Yes - connecting! Open virtual and physical classroom walls to extend reach and impact.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:38 PM EST
@OHMWelker
I like this a lot - it could be a useful online assignment, too - get students out into their local communities.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:39 PM EST
Thoughts? RT
@descataluna
A2. Students produce the assignments' rubric facilitated by the teacher...could this be?
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:39 PM EST
@descataluna
could be rich discussion -- "what WOULD BE ways to show learning objective x"? Bump up engagement/motivation!
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:40 PM EST
A2. Risking to go out, beyond the classroom. Rewards may be tremendous!
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:40 PM EST
@descataluna
Student driven discussion topics work, why wouldn't their rubrics? Would be interesting to try out.
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:42 PM EST
A2. Awesome! Critical thinking and the process would be the students already evaluating themselves!
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:42 PM EST
@descataluna
or make the classroom BE the "out there"??
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:42 PM EST
Of course
@OHMWelker
and digitally, too!
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jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:43 PM EST
@OHMWelker
@descataluna
I think that would be an interesting convo to have..not sure that Ss have knowledge to build assessment
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jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:44 PM EST
@descataluna
Do students really have the knowledge or ability to turn off the bias to adequately/accurately assess?
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:44 PM EST
@jshamsy
@descataluna
this is where the instructor offers value for assessment expertise and or some ground rules?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:45 PM EST
We're heading into Q3) ...
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:45 PM EST
@jshamsy
if we start this process early, objective thinking would be a common practice for them.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:45 PM EST
@jshamsy
@descataluna
@OHMWelker
We'd still have to set some frame, parameters and expectations for their work, guide the process
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:46 PM EST
@OHMWelker
I did say facilitated by teacher.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:46 PM EST
@OHMWelker
Ground rules! Exactly :)
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:46 PM EST
@jshamsy
@descataluna
so take a "triangulating" approach - Student self-assess; peer assess & instructor assess?
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:47 PM EST
Teachers will always appear to be the s's guiding force - our integrity is at stake- always.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:47 PM EST
And maybe not for all assessments, but for one, or for one type of assignment?
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:47 PM EST
@OHMWelker
we model the objective thinking. Yes triangular approach....good thinking
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:48 PM EST
Yes. The teacher guides and facilitates in this open pedagogy
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:48 PM EST
Q3) What are the potential risks of adopting an open pedagogy approach?
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jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:48 PM EST
@OHMWelker
@descataluna
like triangulated approach-task dependent-don't know Ss/peers always have know. to make accurate assess.
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:48 PM EST
@descataluna
agreed!! This approach very much realigns that "influence" to a true guide on the side, making sure nobody falls off!
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:50 PM EST
Q3. Addressing learning gaps in a free choice assignment
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:50 PM EST
A3) - What
@jshamsy
said! ;D Need for careful, well thought out supports and design by intent healthy norms/ models
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camischwartz18
Mar 9 @ 12:50 PM EST
It is a new idea, there are many unknowns, and it may be difficult to get started/support among peers &students
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#gvtech
jshamsy
Mar 9 @ 12:51 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Think you have to make slow change and integrate old with new...not really new..just new lens
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=)
OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:51 PM EST
A3) Ensuring solid baseline of understanding to make open/ free items meaningful/ situated in a context?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:52 PM EST
@descataluna
Interesting! All learners may not reach the objective as a result of their choice of topic or format?
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:53 PM EST
Q3. Risks....how supportive are parents? How supportive is Admin esp if there are costs of materials? Block periods established?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:53 PM EST
@OHMWelker
Agreed. Would take some work on the preparation side. For both students and instructors. Course design issues at play.
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:54 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Be prepared for "She didn't 'teach' [lecture] us the material"/ student resistance to taken more active role
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:54 PM EST
@camischwartz18
Momentum is definitely an issue!
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:55 PM EST
Q3. How supportive are your colleagues where integration of subjects reflect the chosen assignment?
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:55 PM EST
@OHMWelker
@camischwartz18
Do you think it would be a smoother integration in higher ed? Or maybe just different challenges.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:56 PM EST
@descataluna
Ah yes! same question ... do you think level of education matters when planning open strategies? K12, HigherEd, etc.
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Emily_J_Fox
Mar 9 @ 12:56 PM EST
A3. Depending on how open pedagogy is approached, the structure could be TOO open and negatively impact learners
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:56 PM EST
@IOLblog
@camischwartz18
So much merging/ blurring with Post-secondary/HS and community colleges likely much of same??
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OHMWelker
Mar 9 @ 12:58 PM EST
@Emily_J_Fox
"You guys build the course! I'm going out for margaritas!" ;D
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descataluna
Mar 9 @ 12:58 PM EST
I believe so. Yet, high school Adv classes may just do the same as (or better) than higher Ed.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:58 PM EST
@OHMWelker
You've got a point there.
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:58 PM EST
RT
@Emily_J_Fox
A3. Depending on how open pedagogy is approached, the structure could be TOO open and negatively impact learners
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IOLblog
Mar 9 @ 12:59 PM EST
@Emily_J_Fox
So true - we could go too far to one extreme or the other. Balance needed. :)
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