#musedchat Archive

Each Monday evening at 8PM EST, music teachers get together and share ideas about important topics within music education. It’s a great chance to interact directly with educators from all over the world and to get new tips and tricks to help you succeed in the classroom. The entire #musedchat discussion is organized and moderated by Joe Guarr.

Monday September 17, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight’s #musedchat! Our topic this evening: Exploring musical identities. Be sure to introduce yourself!
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Good evening, I’m John from MI! Currently a music education major! #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hello! Brittany - vocal music teacher at Palisades MS in Bucks County, PA! #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hello all! Jon ochoa k5 general in dearborn mich #musedchat
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Elementary instrumental from Baltimore, MD. #MusEdchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Good evening #musedchat! Sam Fritz from Greenwood, IN 6-8 Band! Happy to be joining in again
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Good evening! I'm Susie from near Sacramento. I teach 4th and 5th grade band and new this year: K through 7th General Music! #musedchat
  • kellyapetro Sep 17 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi! I'm Kelly from Rochester, NY 4-6 Vocal General Music #MusEdchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi - I"m Jim from PA - High school general music #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Good to see everyone tonight! Excited to hear your thoughts on tonight's topic #MusEdchat
  • GrubersOrch Sep 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    Hi #musedchat Lauren, orchestra teacher from Richmond, In. 🎻
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    I'll be in and out tonight. Cooking dinner and have rehearsal in 2 hours. #musedchat
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    TUBA CHICs UNITE!! awesome! #musedchat
    In reply to @JulieHarpReber
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Q1: What are some of the pieces/musical experiences that have had the biggest impact on you? What musicians have shaped your identity? Share a links if you’ve got ‘em. #musedchat
  • smanhart4 Sep 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Hello! Shawna, MS Band T hovering in and around tonight's chat. #MusEdchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Just wrote a blog post on this and how we sometimes misinterpret Ss musical identities https://t.co/mGDBMdJYlx #MusEdchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: Only Light by Aaron Perrine (https://t.co/jBOb9ZLxTg). This piece has been symbolic for me as a way to cope and overcome adversity, and find hope in difficult phases of life. #musedchat
  • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    George Andrikokus/6th & 8th Grade Band/ Jazz Band/Suburb of Chicago #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1: Elsa's Procession..., played while in college at @ArtsAtWCU, touched my heart. My director, Dr. Martin, really took the time to explain the beauty of the piece, and we worked so hard -- as an ensemble -- to bring it to life. https://t.co/un8guQp2j6 #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Sep 17 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    R1: When I was in high school I got to play a side-by-side concert with the @pghsymphony and that was so cool. I’m glad the orchestra where I live now (@RSO_Richmond_IN) still offers this opportunity to Ss #musedchat
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1: Playing a duet with tuba player @AndrewHitz : Really got me thinking and teaching more musically, not just technically. Arnold Jacobs of course. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1 last year drove home the message to 2nd n 3rd grd musicians that their performance could chage someones life. They chose the music. Many crying parents n siblings after. Performers killed it! #MusEdchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1: Brahms Requiem. I performed this at @BerkshireChoral while attending as a scholar, and the timing was perfect -- I had just lost one of my beloved role models. This mass for the living -- the ones left behind -- helped me mourn. #musedchat https://t.co/exZtwvLc4m
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Played American Elegy in early 2000s by Frank Ticheli. I was just starting my career and I@have been chasing that musical connection ever since #musedchat https://t.co/TUbDsvIbIc
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1.1: As for musicians the top three for me would have to be Claude Delangle, and two of my teachers Greg Cunningham and Jeff Heisler. Super great people, wonderful musicians, and superb musicians! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1: Verdi's Requiem, and Dream Theater's Metropolis Pt 2 album. The Verdi was my first time seeing a professional orchestra #musedchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A1: I knew I wanted to be a music teacher from middle school. Due to the dedication and expectations of our director. Loved playing those marches, especially by Sousa #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    It seems more appropriate for this piece to be resurfacing since the 20th anniversary for the event it was written for is coming up fairly soon. #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A1: My beginning band! I love those light bulb moments. I keep researching new ways to teach them and have fun making music. They keep me learning! #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    I love his conducting so much. Being in his conducting class has helped me in so many ways! #musedchat
    In reply to @ochoajon8
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A1: Hard to narrow this one down! An early one though was probably playing Holst in high school. That's an experience where I connected to "real" repertoire and not just literature written for student ensembles. Made my musicianship feel more authentic. #MusEdchat
  • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A1: Getting to work with @samuelhazo while I was at Elmhurst College in undergrad and watching him conduct and connect with the band was powerful #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Q2: How much of the experiences from Q1 do you bring into your classroom? What form do they take? #musedchat
  • jarvelamused Sep 17 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A1: I was lucky enough to get into All-State Orchestra, and the first time we played Pines of Rome was what really made it all click for me. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 my experience w a Ts negating music that meant the world to me drives my teaching. I bring a piece of myslf as a musician but leave more room for Ss to bring who they r 2 #MusEdchat
  • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2: simple things like for a crescendo don’t conduct bigger, push forward into their space so the band “pushes” back. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2: I want my students to know the story behind the piece. We commission works as often as we can and we try to contact composers to get the story. #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2: Being a MS teacher, my students won't be singing/playing either of those pieces anytime soon. However, I strive to give my Ss that same connection with the music with what they ARE performing. #YouWillBeFound from DEH def. helped to form some of those connections. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Stealing that idea for tomorrow!! #musedchat
    • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:22 PM EDT
      A2: simple things like for a crescendo don’t conduct bigger, push forward into their space so the band “pushes” back. #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2: We talk about our pieces and what they mean -- what we need to project in our performances in order to take our audiences on the journey with us. The more my Ss strive for and feel connections, the stronger advocators of music they'll be in years to come. #musedchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2: I always try to show/share a part of my musicianship with my Ss. I often find myself sharing anecdotes or metaphors to create extra-musical representation. Music is more than notes on a page. #musedchat
  • jarvelamused Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2: how much it all means to get so absorbed into a performance and to be able to convey how you are feeling to the audience. Such an amazing feeling I want to pass on #musedchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2: Seeing that I teach high school general music. It is all about connections. To appreciate the arts, and to see what came prior to the music that we listen to today and how it influenced that music. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    So important to building their identity #musedchat
    • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:24 PM EDT
      A2: I always try to show/share a part of my musicianship with my Ss. I often find myself sharing anecdotes or metaphors to create extra-musical representation. Music is more than notes on a page. #musedchat
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2: creating that expectation of excellence with Ss, taking on the next challenge. #MusEdchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    I love this! When Ss know the steps they need to take to get better, accomplishing goals seem much more achievable in the short term. #musedchat
    In reply to @miss_baumeister
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Q3: What do you know about the musical lives of your students outside of your room? #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A2:1 I really feel that when in doubt grabbing my instrument and modeling a phrase or passage should still bring about looks of amazement from students #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3teaching in communities (detroit n dearborn) i didnt grow up in, finding connections to who Ss r as musicians has been SO important! I am always llokng for ways Ss can share their culture #MusEdchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3: Very little about individual Ss, need to fix that. I try not to assume Ss' musical identities, what may resonate with one may not resonate in the same way with the other. #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3: I ask a "question of the day" to start every class, and I stick music questions in there every so often to help me gauge their interests. I keep in close contact with my band/orchestra colleagues for my students in many ensembles, attending performances when I can. #musedchat
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3: students from musical families are often excited to talk about that... Their favorite music they are usually singing or playing during down times. #MusEdchat
  • LindsayBrazell Sep 17 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Just got home from rehearsal! Joining in a tad late. Hello all! #musedchat
  • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: I anecdotally feel like I know a fair amount. Other instruments they play etc... #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: our playing final each year is “learn something in your own” and I have added “fantastic Friday” where students show off their skills or share videos that inspire them during class #musedchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: In the high school general music class, I find out what instruments the students play and for some of them, I invite them to perform for the other students, No matter if they play on a band instrument or on guitar, banjo, etc. #musedchat
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: Last year, by mid-year I knew quite a bit. Had a banjo player who played in his family band. A trumpet player who's Dad is Jazz teacher. We had quite a bit of classroom sharing. I have a small school so it's easy to know Ss. #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A3: I also do a project in which the Ss go on @jwpepper (using cert. requirements), search for, and justify a piece of music for the spring concert. I typically select a few pieces from the Ss lists -- plus, it helps me better understand their interests. :) #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A3 song suggestion list, musical show n tell, telling your story as a musician (writing n “performing ur story) are all ways I let Ss share about themselves. Told today i need to listen to “Kiki” by drake #MusEdchat
  • LindsayBrazell Sep 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A3: I’m starting to learn that their musical lives are either only in school or in school and church. Trying to create more opportunities that are accessible! #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    What are some of the more memorable things students have done for that final? #musedchat
    In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q4: How much do your students know about each other’s musical lives? What avenues do they have for sharing? #musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Sep 17 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    #musedchat SUCCESS! @wyntonmarsalis what are your thoughts? #
  • MrBMusicTeacher Sep 17 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Sorry I'm late needed to blow off some stress. Antoine Buttigieg Woodbridge Ontario Canada HS instrumental music teacher MB and drumline director of the @FrBressaniBands #musedchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4: The Ss who are heavily involved outside of school tend to tell their peers (small school). A LOT of my Ss, however, rely on Instagram for sharing their musical interests. Kids these days! #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4 try n let Ss share likes n dislikes w each other, have to justify it w musical idea tho. Constant group composing n performing, alaysis n discussion. Easier w young Ss in same class together all day #MusEdchat
  • GrubersOrch Sep 17 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    R3: I give credit for playing in the community (church, comm. orch, youth orch, musicals, etc) so I think I know some. For some Ss though their only musical exposure is in our classes and that’s why it’s even more important to teach quality content #musedchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A4: With a small school - students are over extended in many performing groups. Some eat, sleep, and breath it and share with each other by their close bond. Those that aren't as involved, don't really know much about each other's musical lives. #musedchat
  • MrAband Sep 17 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A4: I find this to be a challenge. The challenge is helping to facilitate those conversations so that Ss don’t feel like they are “not doing enough” compared to their peers. It’s tricky. #musedchat
  • GrubersOrch Sep 17 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Love this idea! #MusEdchat
    • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      A3: I also do a project in which the Ss go on @jwpepper (using cert. requirements), search for, and justify a piece of music for the spring concert. I typically select a few pieces from the Ss lists -- plus, it helps me better understand their interests. :) #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Trombone player who made a video using @AcapellaApp herself in multi-track and this https://t.co/LkgxHQnU84 #musedchat
    • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      What are some of the more memorable things students have done for that final? #musedchat
      In reply to @SamuelFritz
  • TubaChic Sep 17 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A4: I think they knew a bit. We would often talk in class about things that happened at home with music. I would share with them concerts that I would be playing in and invite them. I tried to talk about the HS and MS Concerts (Siblings) as well. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q5: What might it look like to incorporate your students’ musical experiences into your curriculum design? #musedchat
  • Martino_s_music Sep 17 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Hi All! Denise from CT, teaching K-5 music & 4/5 band. Getting here late - trying to finish ProTraxx modules (ugh). A1: Holst's 1st mov't (Chaconne) from his 1st Suite. Played it in 9th grade & it still deeply affects me. #musedchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5 when we do concert Ss write a reflection after n I post them in the hallway outside class. Ss love reading about each others experiences, and cant wait to write their own #MusEdchat
  • ochoajon8 Sep 17 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A5 i ask older Ss to give advice to next yrs Ss and then share that advice yr to yr #MusEdchat
  • Martino_s_music Sep 17 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: I love the book and song "Thankful". It comes w/ a CD with Art Gafunkel singing it. The K/1 students respond so well to it & the song has such a profound affect on them. #musedchat
  • craleyj Sep 17 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A5:Having non musicians in class, it is interesting to hear their thoughts and how they describe the music they have heard. Students write up their reviews and then share them with others in the classroom. #musedchat
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5: @BlackViolin always helps me! And incorporating other professional examples in a variety of genres. #MusEdchat
  • jhallma_mused Sep 17 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5: This could take many forms from letting letting Ss program a piece for a concert, stepping away and letting Ss teach a piece to the class, or even programing popular music. There are many answers to this and not one way go about this. #musedchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: We started just barely scratching the surface of hip hop in my music tech class last year. Some of the students wrote some powerful lyrics, really learned a lot about them #musedchat
  • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: also had students compose a piece for our spring concert last year. Not sure I'd handle that every year, but it was fun. #MusEdchat
  • jguarr - Moderator Sep 17 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    That's awesome! What did your process look like? #musedchat
    In reply to @JulieHarpReber
  • Martino_s_music Sep 17 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: I've been trying to get to know my students more, in general. I started the year with an icebreaker game that focused on their interests musically and out of school. #musedchat
  • SamuelFritz Sep 17 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    I have always wanted to try that! Would you share how you accomplished this? #musedchat
    • JulieHarpReber Sep 17 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      A5: also had students compose a piece for our spring concert last year. Not sure I'd handle that every year, but it was fun. #MusEdchat
  • miss_baumeister Sep 17 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A5: After watching the movie, my 8th grade Ss had to take songs from #HighSchoolMusical and rewrite them to be relevant to their lives. It was VERY interesting and eye-opening (and slightly angsty, of course). ;) #musedchat
  • Martino_s_music Sep 17 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A4: I give my students the opportunity to sing a solo or play their instrument at music class. #musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Sep 17 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A1 performing 'What a Wonderful World' in memory of my HS music teacher, he inspired me to become a music teacher, he would sing it a la Louis Armstrong. He passed away earlier this year We performed it at our last concert and I sang it in the same voice. .#musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Sep 17 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A2 not necessarily from the piece but the mannerisms and teaching style Mr. Livio Leonardelli instilled me are what I bring into the classroom. #musedchat
  • MrBMusicTeacher Sep 17 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A4 again something that I've never thought of bringing up in class. It makes sense to as we are trying to build relationships and a community. #musedchat