Good morning #sunchat! These are great questions and I’m excited to hear what people have to say. Also really excited to hear and share the HOW! Marisa Thompson, HS ELA & EDU PD at USD, blogging at https://t.co/CoLG0lTVSk, Carlsbad Ca
Hello everyone! Kevin from “the other shoe finally fell from last weekend’s beautiful weather to this weekend’s big snow and I’m sick” Indiana! #sunchat
Snow, glorious snow! And coffee. Even more glorious coffee :)
Good morning, #sunchat!
Karl, 3rd-6th ELA basic skills specialist, from the Jersey shore checking in.
How's it goin' where you are?
Haven’t seen this much early buzz around a book in a very long time. Over 1,000 orders placed by school leaders before there was even a cover. What can I say? People just love @conniehamilton. Oh, and by popular demand, here’s the cover.
#HackLearning
Jim Smith, Assessment Associate, Solution Tree. Jumping in for as long as I can. Great topic - starting with the "end in mind" is always good. #sunchat
Telannia, I got a chance to lead a session on twitter and twitter as PD. Introduced a bunch of teachers to the world we've come to rely on and enjoy each day! Hoping they will jump in the pool and join a chat one day! #sunchat
Speaking as an educator and as a mother of an educator, I believe being "real" in both roles is vital. I also believe one of the BEST things we can model and assist with is good writing skills. #sunchat
Local news said it wasnt snowing up here, only south Jersey. I will remember that when I brush it off my cars window (it really isnt much though) #sunchat
I often wonder if folks who are designing the standards have stepped out of the walls of academia to see what is really going on outside in the businesses, trades and world out there. Lifelong academics may not really know, but assume they know, you know? #sunchat
I want Ss to be independent learners and thinkers when they graduate-not to do things “for points” because that’s not how the world works when they leave our walls. To do things intentionally/thoughtfully because it matters-for them and others. #sunchat
Here’s my thinking (13 years): I don’t have an issue with the standards. They are skills and many of them, if not most, are what I think students need. The method, the pedagogy, our own creation of a content list which takes over & demands compliance which concerns me. #sunchat
I teach govt, and I promise my kids that I will challenge them to think, I will challenge them to justify opinions, and I will challenge them to talk. We can’t let our Ss leave without that! #sunchat
Agree, @MsAnzaloneMPS . Every profession has a need to writing skills - and good writing shows professionalism, in my opinion. (Except for doctors, who seem to assume that pharmacists are ex-teachers who can decipher all types of writing...) #sunchat
Speaking as an educator and as a mother of an educator, I believe being "real" in both roles is vital. I also believe one of the BEST things we can model and assist with is good writing skills. #sunchat
In Colorado, updated state learning targets for grads involve both essential skills (https://t.co/mNouErGnXe) as well as academic standards (https://t.co/ABBOXSeCqL). Well intentioned, yet complex to sift, prioritize, differentiate, which is not a new challenge. #sunchat
Does anyone else struggle with (what can feel like) the mismatch between preparing students for lifelong learning - real world - higher ed - career readiness? #SunChat
I love that the Profile of a Graduate includes Workplace Skills and Career Exploration...and with it, renewed interest in our CTE programs, which can truly be life changers for our students #sunchat
My thinking exactly. No matter how much I tell Ts they don't need to, they get caught up in covering "content". Skills should be our focus - we teach them through content, but content is not the final goal.
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Thats why any set of standards needs to be prioritized, condensed, and focused to meet the learning needs of students in YOUR building, in your context, by the eduprofessions on the cutting edge - classroom teachers. #sunchat
Yesterday, a friend used a historical analogy to defend an opinion on the best course of action on a current event. I smiled. THAT is what I want my students to be able to do when they leave my history classroom #sunchat
Our Portrait of Graduate in FCPS focuses on being an effective communicator, collaborator, global citizen, creative and critical thinker, and goal-directed and resilient individual. Goals I can get behind with my teacher heart! #sunchat
I think that's one of the driving forces behind Profile of a Graduate - thinking on a global level - reaching out to stakeholders (business partners, community members, etc...) how do connect our students with the world outside of schools...mentorships...internships.. #sunchat
Does anyone else struggle with (what can feel like) the mismatch between preparing students for lifelong learning - real world - higher ed - career readiness? #SunChat
That's what I've heard. I need to call my parents this afternoon (who live down the shore) or my Mom will call up tonight to ask "Why didnt check in on us old folks?" #sunchat
We (educators) keep adding to a content list and rely on it, believing that it’s a “cross it off the list” situation. When a philosophical discussion starts, it too quickly ends with “how much more do They want us to do?” (We’re the They.) #sunchat
The independent part is big! We need thinkers who think for themselves and can justify their opinions! We just discussed this in class, and I was excited to see Ss talking about how life experience can change them; hoping they seek those out! #sunchat
Love all the comments to this so far. I think it has a lot of the things SS needs. If Ss are not this when they graduate, why? Is it just an idea rather than people really implementing? #sunchat
When we look at our graduates later on in life, it's not always our high academic achievers who do well. It's often those who have strong life skills (sometimes referred to as "street smarts"). This should help us hone in on what's important for our learners.
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Yes especially with so many different paths for students in one classroom! My district doesn’t have a large % of students entering a university, but still it seems that everything we do is to “prepare them for college” #sunchat
I like that phrase "life ready." Prefer it over future ready, which feels like too distant & abstract a game for most young people. Also reinforces for me how school can reflect aspects of life, but w/training wheels. When & how those wheels come off proves key decision. #sunchat
Exactly. Content while important is not the end goal. In all honesty, they might forget the content. But if we use the content to teach life-long skills, we are helping to set them up for life -- no matter what path they choose. #sunchat
This makes me think of another struggle I see in education - we are great at starting programs/initiatives, but not "sunsetting" them when it is time to move on.
The result? More, more, more, to the point where it is impossible & other life skills go by the wayside.
#SunChat
We (educators) keep adding to a content list and rely on it, believing that it’s a “cross it off the list” situation. When a philosophical discussion starts, it too quickly ends with “how much more do They want us to do?” (We’re the They.) #sunchat
Weirdly enough, business was involved w/common core. Can’t remember where I read that. As a former business person, I can see skill sets from it. #sunchat
Those things are so imperative! We give our students lots of opportunities to learn outside of our classroom during the school day. They need that time to network and pick up soft skills #sunchat
Yes, Carla, and often those types of classes that support the learning of those "life skills" go by the wayside for more reading and math. Well-rounded is what we should strive for, helping the students grow into self-sufficient members of community. #sunchat@carlameyrink
When we look at our graduates later on in life, it's not always our high academic achievers who do well. It's often those who have strong life skills (sometimes referred to as "street smarts"). This should help us hone in on what's important for our learners.
#sunchat
When we look at our graduates later on in life, it's not always our high academic achievers who do well. It's often those who have strong life skills (sometimes referred to as "street smarts"). This should help us hone in on what's important for our learners.
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Right - that be evaluating the information. Teaching students balance (in information, in managing courses & responsibilities, in free time) is a gift that will last a lifetime. #sunchat
It’s taken many chats with educators I trust with my complete vulnerability and lots of reaffirming experiments to know all students can master the skills we want for them (regardless of standards) if we plan for their daily practice; but compliance is counterproductive. #sunchat
All the desired outcomes we hope to see beyond graduation are secondary to helping students become invested and independent owners of their learning. Help students find there "why" - teach them the "how" of reflection and self assessment, and they will thrive. #sunchat
This makes me think of another struggle I see in education - we are great at starting programs/initiatives, but not "sunsetting" them when it is time to move on.
The result? More, more, more, to the point where it is impossible & other life skills go by the wayside.
#SunChat
We (educators) keep adding to a content list and rely on it, believing that it’s a “cross it off the list” situation. When a philosophical discussion starts, it too quickly ends with “how much more do They want us to do?” (We’re the They.) #sunchat
That first bit gives me tingles: schools that actually stay connected to & gain insights from graduates years down the road as part of assessing what's working vs. what needs to change. Typically, this piece doesn't exist yet, requires systemic updates to implement. #sunchat
When we look at our graduates later on in life, it's not always our high academic achievers who do well. It's often those who have strong life skills (sometimes referred to as "street smarts"). This should help us hone in on what's important for our learners.
#sunchat
Students need to be good citizens, communicators, be able to work in groups, understand finances, be wise consumers, know about good nutrition & fitness... We need to teach life skills. Our Soft Skills page https://t.co/OXH6qreGHU#sunchat
I like that phrase "life ready." Prefer it over future ready, which feels like too distant & abstract a game for most young people. Also reinforces for me how school can reflect aspects of life, but w/training wheels. When & how those wheels come off proves key decision. #sunchat
I believe Alvin Toffler said it best for this ?: “The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn” #sunchat
It is seen as schools work not requirements of a community - it needs to be explained, trained, communicated in many spaces w/in our students lives - churches, libraries, courthouses, community foundations, camps, afterschool programs, everywhere. #sunchat
Yes. No one can predict what life will hold for our young people. A change in circumstance could leave them with a lack of skills because we made sure they were ready for college, which might not be in their future. Life is more than that. #sunchat
I like that phrase "life ready." Prefer it over future ready, which feels like too distant & abstract a game for most young people. Also reinforces for me how school can reflect aspects of life, but w/training wheels. When & how those wheels come off proves key decision. #sunchat
I start my history classes with a shared understanding of history from Jill Lepore: “History is an endlessly interesting argument where evidence is everything, and storytelling is everything else” - We are always going back to evidence & reasoning when making claims. #sunchat
Retaining content is tested & will always be important, b/c it's foundational to the greater skills of reading comprehension, analysis, & communication. So Im not a "Dont need to remember content, Google it" teacher nor do I believe memorizing content the end goal. #sunchat
All the desired outcomes we hope to see beyond graduation are secondary to helping students become invested and independent owners of their learning. Help students find there "why" - teach them the "how" of reflection and self assessment, and they will thrive. #sunchat
Some folks are taking about that "achievement" as measured by tests score does not align with "attainment" beyond school. If thats the case we have really been fighting the wrong battle. #sunchat
It forces schools to consider how to engage the community for sure. I'm not sure we can pass on that responsibility or wait for them to connect with us. #sunchat
It is seen as schools work not requirements of a community - it needs to be explained, trained, communicated in many spaces w/in our students lives - churches, libraries, courthouses, community foundations, camps, afterschool programs, everywhere. #sunchat
Students need to be good citizens, communicators, be able to work in groups, understand finances, be wise consumers, know about good nutrition & fitness... We need to teach life skills. Our Soft Skills page https://t.co/OXH6qreGHU#sunchat
I often think about graduates as voters. I don’t want them to hold my beliefs necessarily, but I want them to know how to wisely and soundly decide for themselves, how to support their beliefs, and I want them to use their voices. #sunchat
I agree and yet I do believe some of the content is necessary before a diploma. Teachers & students can find a better middle ground; especially since many students are taking a lot of our demands for content and compliance anyway. They know these are teachers’ hoops. #sunchat
The strength of Americans has always been in their creativity and out of the box soulutions. I don’t why we keep trying to “ standardize” them and base their value of facts they’ve memorized. Top scores in other countries isn’t moving them forward.#sunchat
If you’ve not read her book “The White’s of Their Eyes” on historiography & the Tea Party’s historical revisionism of the American Revolution from which the quote comes, I can’t recommend it enough! #sunchat
Some believe I can’t “do it all” but by rethinking how I’m using my instructional time and exactly what I’m having students do, we are covering the content, having daily practice with life skills, and going beyond both. It’s possible. #sunchat
100 percent agree. It's of course one of my goals for students to learn history, but I want them to develop skills first and foremost. I see a lot of teachers covering content in a race for correct answers on standardized tests (and as a result they ignore skills). #sunchat
Students need to be good citizens, communicators, be able to work in groups, understand finances, be wise consumers, know about good nutrition & fitness... We need to teach life skills. Our Soft Skills page https://t.co/OXH6qreGHU#sunchat
Some believe I can’t “do it all” but by rethinking how I’m using my instructional time and exactly what I’m having students do, we are covering the content, having daily practice with life skills, and going beyond both. It’s possible. #sunchat
Content is how we can engaged and support learning. The shift still needs to take place, especially in secondary schools, where assessing still takes the easy way out - content over learning skills #sunchat
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So feeling @MichelleObama’s book right now. We should eliminate asking what Ss what they want to be when they grow up? You are always growing up. What they do in 2 years may not be what they do in 5. That’s okay!! New question: what are you becoming? #sunchat
"If you meet me 20 yrs from now I wont care if you remember Justinian's Code, but if you tell me my talk on taking that one extra step to create greater opportunities has helped you be where you are today, I'll be happy" the "life lesson" I shared w/my classes this week #sunchat
(1/2) There are specific skills, to be sure, in the standards. But in #ELA and #history, the focus is fundamentally on ideas. Ideas are worth exploring, reflecting on, and developing no matter the end career-goal. #sunchat
I think there are two layers to this conversation. One, as you said, is that by being creative and intentional, we can do more than we thought we could. The other is that education leaders need to be more flexible and willing to pivot/change rather than just adding more. #SunChat
Some believe I can’t “do it all” but by rethinking how I’m using my instructional time and exactly what I’m having students do, we are covering the content, having daily practice with life skills, and going beyond both. It’s possible. #sunchat
I recognized this focus mattered when a student connected the subtle racism of the depiction of indigenous people in Columbus’ & Champlain’s primary sources earlier this week, despite having read them weeks apart. Focus on evidence & authorship, big things happen! #sunchat
(2/2) That said, the depth and breadth of skills required for a particular career path changes fair dramatically at some point. So, do we need to rethink edu delivery settings, rather than the content. Do we need tiered ed that extends and deepens #votech? #sunchat
"If you meet me 20 yrs from now I wont care if you remember Justinian's Code, but if you tell me my talk on taking that one extra step to create greater opportunities has helped you be where you are today, I'll be happy" the "life lesson" I shared w/my classes this week #sunchat
Synthesis, research, digital literacy, collaboration, symbolism, tone, mood, revision process, theme, outlining (it’s basically a visual essay), and decisions for purpose & audience. Their only instructions: video, 1:50-2 min, one word to leave in 2018, one to lead 2019. #sunchat
I taught music, and sadly, many students do not continue in music through their school careers. Made me think about what value I was adding even if they weren't playing violin next year - how was my class worthwhile for them? That got into deeper ways of thinking, etc. #SunChat
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I agree - but the hard question is, which content? When I teach ELA, I don't think it really matters which novels I use to teach skills, but some Ts would disagree with that.
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Bingo! Have you sat down with someone who thinks differently than you and just had a conversation without ending in anger? Have you just listened? Have you studied a claim to verify before accepting it? If yes, then success. #sunchat
I haven’t read the book yet but I heard her talk about that on the radio. I love that! And your career doesn’t define who you are all the time. I want kids to be happy and successful when they grow up. Doesn’t matter what career they choose #sunchat
I would say that if you include the school librarian in these conversations you can have it all. Content and skills together making your students not only ready for lifelong learning but also independent and confident in knowing what they find is true or is biased. #sunchat
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@timlriley, @MarisaEThompson, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
I think top priority these days is the skill of sifting through information online to decide what is real and what is not. Credible sources and how to search for answers. We sometimes assume Ss know how to use tech effectively but they haven’t always been shown #sunchat
Your words, Will, remind me of thoughts I periodically reference from @ruha9: She said, "Our job as educators is to incubate a better world in the minds and hearts of our students." And she asked,
“How do we make our schools laboratories of democratic participation?” #sunchat
Would love to see a combined music/social studies course, Aubrey, where music is studied in context of time period, since it is so connected to culture and events! Get on that, okay? :) I'll be your first student. You and our resident SS folks on #sunchat
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Anyone notice a pattern? We want our Ss to graduate ready to function for the positive, ready to be an active citizen, to be a good person. In the end, can’t we be happy if these are our grads? #sunchat
I absolutely agree. When I teach research (media specialist here), I also teach "How to Google Like a Rock Star" at the same time. They remember the research db rules better and I prove to them that they can learn quick tricks to search better.
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I learned & did my best with teachers who made me write - essays, longer constructed responses, even short, 4-5 sentence responses that asked for my reflection. These developed me into a more organized thinker while forcing me to integrate a wide range of knowledge. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
You are so right! These skills are best leant whilst linking into curriculum content. Giving it a purpose. Your school librarian is great at this ;) #sunchat
I couldn’t cover all my content if I tried. I try to teach them how to think their way through questions/collaborate (but also reason independently). If something comes up they’ve never seen they won’t quit but roll up their sleeves. Thinking skills will do the rest. #sunchat
That’s so important!!! I’ve seen students in the past try to search with a whole paragraph of information. But if no one has taught them to be concise and best search practices, how do they know? #sunchat
Your comment, Carla, led me to remember something I wrote during my ed undergrad program that got the professor's attention. It was about how taking tests, for me, felt analogous to flushing a toilet 😳 #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
I agree our students need to learn soft skills, successful HS graduates need to be able to think critically, have a working knowledge of technology that goes deeper than social media and feel confident that they can "adult" (cook, clean, basic car care, budget etc) #sunchat
This is why you need to work with your school librarian. They can support this so include them in your planning and you will see the difference immediately! #sunchat
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@MissWinegar, @Media_Barber, @clairecummings
That's how I learned best too. But honestly, I only had a handfull of Ts like that. I was in an "open area" classroom in the 70's. Very innovative 5th - 7th grades together. Individualized & democratic. The only yrs of school where I actually remember learning.
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@MrU_ishere, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
So true! So true! I preach this to my college freshman & sophomores all the time, but it’s also true for teachers #SunChat knowing how to reach out to your resources
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@Elizabethutch, @MarisaEThompson, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
That’s so important!!! I’ve seen students in the past try to search with a whole paragraph of information. But if no one has taught them to be concise and best search practices, how do they know? #sunchat
Exactly!! I think we forget that sometimes. I came to teaching 11 years into my adulthood. As a result, I came wanting to help kids be who they wanted to be. Wasn’t wanting them to be math geeks or be great test takers. I want good future neighbors #sunchat
So many teachers just don't even know what is offer it is so frustrating. I am writing a blog post about teachers and librarians working together. If you know any that do plan or include the school librarian in their scheme of work let me know. #sunchat
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@timlriley, @MarisaEThompson, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
Yes!! And educated voters and people who want to help grow our community in a positive way. None of which that directly deals with content, but instead people that will continue to want to learn and grow! #sunchat
I always believed students should be grouped by ability, not age. Not need to push those ahead who are not ready, and no need to hold those behind who are. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @MrU_ishere, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
NJ just passed a law requiring financial lit for ms Ss. That falls short. To your point, hs Ss need a quarterly class rotation: financial lit, home ec (cook, clean, iron, et al), fund. of auto maintenance, and fund. of home repair. Give them their own tools when done #sunchat
Always struggled w/this STEM quote"Preparing Ss for jobs not yet created" How can that be if I dont know what Im preparing them for? By allowing critical thinking & problem solving in our clssrms, were not only prepping but could be helping to birth jobs not yet created #sunchat
I still forget the stuff I don’t use. I wonder if we need to repurpose tests. Make it a step along the way rather than the end. It is helpful way for a person to know what they know. Hmm, I feel a blog post coming on!! #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
Our school. We're focusing on "going gradeless" - there are grades, but we're focusing on feedback, having Ss grade themselves, decide how to show learning, etc. It's a process. 😉I have several blog posts about it.
#sunchathttps://t.co/dywxlhm5XK
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I loved seeing @altschool’s schedule: meet in short classes to check in with course, 2 hour on-campus work time for collaborating and meeting with teachers, then back to other classes. Really interesting. #sunchat
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@susankotch, @carlameyrink, @MrU_ishere, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @altschool
1000% agree! If we grade on standards, then why not a more 'fluid' ed setting that meets those needs? Would love to open a school that is 60 mins focused ela and math SKILLS base on skill level. The the remainder of the day in interdisciplinary PBL research pods. #sunchat
I always believed students should be grouped by ability, not age. Not need to push those ahead who are not ready, and no need to hold those behind who are. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @MrU_ishere, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
How did you navigate getting there(build support for it), Marisa, with students themselves, colleagues, parents, admin who may push back against what they are so used to? #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink, @thnorfar
Thanks, #sunchat, for this morning's spitballing about life-ready grads. Depending on your timezone, hope you're now feeling weekend-ready for whatever else Sunday might hold. Have a good one!
It is so wrong in this day and age that schools don't have school librarians... So important in learning and understanding research skills. Glad you still use your library but who keeps it up to date? #sunchat
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@clairecummings, @MissWinegar, @Media_Barber
Hmmm. Similar to what I just tweeted...a different kind of edu-delivery system, sim to this. But applicable to the #votech and the #collegebound accordingly. #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @susankotch, @carlameyrink, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @altschool
Teaching is my second career, but my first passion. Bringing life experience into the classroom has most definitely made a difference! I'm with you on the neighbor idea! #sunchat
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@thnorfar, @MissWinegar, @MichelleObama
aaarrrrgghhh! Below is a link that explain how much a school librarian IMPROVES test scores. (Along with many other fine attributes.) Share it widely. #sunchathttps://t.co/n9wnAleFzt
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@clairecummings, @Elizabethutch, @MissWinegar
I think that’s all about soft skills. Although we might not know what those jobs will be, I bet they will need to have critical thinking, collaboration, and innovative thinking skills. Those translate to any career #sunchat
Sign me up - I'm in! @MrU_ishere I always wondered why we force one teacher to teach to multiple levels in one room when we can regroup and let all levels soar comfortably and without shame of being "different". We all learn differently, it makes so much more sense. #sunchat
1000% agree! If we grade on standards, then why not a more 'fluid' ed setting that meets those needs? Would love to open a school that is 60 mins focused ela and math SKILLS base on skill level. The the remainder of the day in interdisciplinary PBL research pods. #sunchat
I always believed students should be grouped by ability, not age. Not need to push those ahead who are not ready, and no need to hold those behind who are. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @MrU_ishere, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
Love all the comments. Would love to hear what methods are you using instead to measure students progress and make sure retention happens? I think that is the purpose of tests, it’s just we suck at it fulfilling its purpose #sunchat
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@Ashida_Linda, @MarisaEThompson, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad
Question: do you feel there should be a quota for high schools to reach when it comes to students & college applications? Does college acceptance truly show they're ready to take on the world?🤔 #sunchat
I agree w/the financial lt. We are so focused in getting kids into higher level math courses that most may never use after school (History teachers dont use calculus) that we miss the discussions that they will use like what does APR on a credit card mean. #sunchat#mschat#njed
We did Assessments by Choice & included all three: tests, in-class essays, presentations. Students’ choice, 2 per unit, end with 2 of each during the semester. It was a nice stepping stone to no tests. I provided prompts for in-class essays, presentations for epiphanies! #sunchat
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@timlriley, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink, @thnorfar
What do you mean by "quota"? Is there a magic number/ %age of students in a high school that should go to college? Or a number of colleges a student is accepted to? Expand, please
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There are so many ways to measure student understanding. When we see a student struggling we try to give them the help they need so that we can avoid retention.
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@thnorfar, @Ashida_Linda, @MarisaEThompson, @coreythornblad
Not necessarily. You can be great at playing the game of “school” but not all of the outside world functions in that way. I’ve also had students not go to college and thrive in their career and life. #sunchat
Yes! I assess in many ways for each skill and let students know if I need more evidence. First observation, then during practice, submissions, revisions, and then grade conferences. Whatever it takes to prove mastery since it’s standards-based grading in my room. #sunchat
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@thnorfar, @Ashida_Linda, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad
What did you do with those who didn’t show the level of knowledge you needed? Also, do they show better retention of information? If so, what do you do to know this? Follow up presentation 3 months later? #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @timlriley, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
I agree, this is my "4th & final” career but those other careers gave me work/life experience that improves my ability to be a better employee but more importantly a better teacher. #sunchat
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@MsAnzaloneMPS, @thnorfar, @MissWinegar, @MichelleObama
Using their voices to contribute to their community is an excellent way to build authenticity into school. They don't have to wait... they can start right now!
Love this comment. #SunChat
:) :) agreed on so many ongoing ways to assess learning. Conferencing with students is always great. How do students document/curate evidence? Portfolios? #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @thnorfar, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad
In ELA the skills are ongoing. Write a draft, revise, publish, begin again. I can see if a student is struggling. In SS & Science Ts can get a lot of information about what Ss understand if they conference with Ss while they work. It's a change of mindset.
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@thnorfar, @MarisaEThompson, @timlriley, @coreythornblad
This is a few years ago. I’ve moved to different methods. But yes: students can revise, offer more evidence, sit & discuss content or skill with me, anything they need. We’re technically no due dates this year so students revise often. Since my quantity is down, I can. #sunchat
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@thnorfar, @timlriley, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
I conference during the process with TQE and with Writing Stations and Grade Conferences. There are many ways to assess but we’re used to and we were taught in our programs: quiz, test, write. #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @thnorfar, @timlriley, @coreythornblad
I think I am on my 8th. Stopped counting 🤪. No telling how many I will have until they box me up. I know it will be in education from here on out but don’t know if I will just be a teacher and consultant. Looking into real estate rentals now. #sunchat
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@EduSiaCate, @MsAnzaloneMPS, @MissWinegar, @MichelleObama
I always hate how fast this #sunchat goes!! Didn’t even get to answer more than one question. Gotta get ready for church. See you next week. Love you all. 😍😍😍
We do Growth Reflection websites, great for our teacherless SLCs. But no. Grade Conferences = final revisions, discuss specific scores, whatever the student wants. There’s a reflection element for every score to be discussed & many say that’s where they learned most. #sunchat
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@Ashida_Linda, @thnorfar, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad
This is how I give writing feedback & train Ss to grade themselves. Ss truly understand the feedback now & their writing improves drastically from one draft to the next (unlike before when I handed back drafts with written feedback)
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@MarisaEThompson, @thnorfar, @timlriley, @coreythornblad
Yes, is there a magic number that schools should enforce upon a staff/student body to reach when it comes to college applications. Does a specific number really reflect what they're ready for...Is there data showing a correlation? #sunchat
Thanks for confirming what I thought!! I think a better way to share this is our use of time. You are not spending less time than test-reteach-test again. You are just using the time more effectively to reach all kids!!! #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @timlriley, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
We talked with @mssackstein abt this idea which she used with AP students. She shared this video of a final-grade conf: https://t.co/ymATlAoQuK
Great discussion with student who knew her responsibilities and articulated her growth very well, w/evidence! #sunchat
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@MarisaEThompson, @Ashida_Linda, @thnorfar, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad, @mssackstein
Thanks for sharing, Karl. Alicia did great work. I have other examples on my youtube channel as well as written and video examples created by students. #sunchat
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@MrU_ishere, @MarisaEThompson, @Ashida_Linda, @thnorfar, @carlameyrink, @coreythornblad
This year I gave feedback aloud to the entire class as a whole, why certain skills were scored, how to identify issues & tips to improve them. Students went through their writing, improved, showed me proof, and will share more during Grade Conferences. We all loved it! #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @thnorfar, @timlriley, @coreythornblad
And music, in most cases, is metaphoric...so why not combine with ELA also? Song writing, lyrics...it's poetic! Ss have an epiphany when you enlighten them to that! #sunchat
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@carlameyrink, @PMcPeake1, @susankotch, @Ms_A_Yeh, @thnorfar, @coreythornblad, @MarisaEThompson
I'm finishing up my listen of @DanielPink 's book #Drive and many of his examples align with what I have been doing. I love the DIY Report Card, or what we like to call on-going reflection and conferences on learning #sunchat
YES! Yes. And that was my epiphany with homework, quizzes, everything I was doing, really. So I changed how we used our instructional time. Learning increased, joy in learning increased. No homework, quizzes, tests. #sunchat
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@thnorfar, @timlriley, @coreythornblad, @carlameyrink
Carla, I didn’t expect them to like it but they said more effective than teachers’ notes on papers. This way feedback became a 20-min mini lesson on the skills we practiced. Can you imagine? 20 min vs the hours of commenting? And it was more effective? #sunchat
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