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Dearbhla, Primary Teacher teaching 1st Class this year. In regards to team teaching, we run guided reading all year round. This is a great way to ease in to team teaching and just even to get used to another teacher in the room. Also guided reading is fantastic #edchatie
Good evening #edchatie Mary second level guidance counsellor, always interested in SEN, I thought at this stage team teaching would be the rule rather than the exception in schools
And there we have it. @INTOnews leadership, who aren’t allowed recommend this “deal” basically recommending it. Vote NO 🗳. No deals without FULL EQUALITY. #edchatie
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Dearbhla, Primary Teacher teaching 1st Class this year. In regards to team teaching, we run guided reading all year round. This is a great way to ease in to team teaching and just even to get used to another teacher in the room. Also guided reading is fantastic #edchatie
I don't currently team teach but it would be great in coding when project work is going on to have two teachers in the room as assisting students/groups with logic and debugging can be intense. #edchatie
#edchatie Anyone in management tell us how allocation for team teaching works. Presume you can use resource hours? What other 'accounting' methods can free resources for team teaching.
My opinion team teaching should be implemented as part of new SEN support model, like everything else just do it! withdrawing & small groups should only be in very exceptional cases or for short periods #edchatie we are talking team teaching 20 years now!
We use team teaching for 1st class maths , senior infant early intervention and also support peer tutoring for literacy . Hectic but worth it. Needs careful planning #edchatie
Ciara, with @rathudotie, originally pp teacher. Team teaching is a great concept for staff development along with peer observation. However I think timetabled team teaching every week is a waste of resource #edchatie
Aishling here, jumping in late. Would love to hear how TT is being implemented in PP clasdrooms. I'm currently in a support position for a number of classes as resource allocation. Don't quite think it's classes as TT tho... #edchatie
I remember one great course in my MSc. in eLearning, where the two lecturers complimented each other, one was very out there and the other was very good at puling him back and making it real. (This time, with the #edchatie hash tag!)
#edchatie go a Google search for multiage classroom albemarle for some examples. Really cool learning environment- although team teaching involved students as much as teachers
Teachers working together in a class can help those falling behind but also help bored exceptional students stay on task #edchatie exceptional students all need support, chance to reach all students across the spectrum of ability
Anne Marie, post primary teacher, just started team teaching a few weeks ago and it's been a revelation! 1 teacher leads lesson with input from 2nd & both available to support students on task. Students' needs meet much more effectively #edchatie
Claire Dublin late tonight #edchatie team teaching works really well in Maths class. Various models of team teaching to chose. Great flexibility depending on how many times team teacher is the class in per week.
Kate Urell Dublin. Team teaching is an extremely effective means of sharing T& L ideas. In my school we engage with it especially for SEN students.#edchatie
#edchatie If team teacher is only in a few times per week, they can check whole class homework & check in with majority of students freeing up main teacher to focus on the students who need the most help
Observation counts as TT. It's not just two teachers at the front of the class at the same time. Being there can have behavioural benefits to the class and you may learn from your colleague 💪 #edchatie
#edchatie In our coderDojo in Greystones, we might have a lead mentor, "teaching" with up to 8 assistant mentors explaining what she was saying to the students. Works where the bariers to understanding can be very diverse..
We're about halfway through tonight's #edchatie live hour of discussion on "Team teaching - thoughts? And how do we convince management and colleagues it's something we should try?"
Miriam PP tchr in Thurles.. #edchatie agree with @conpower team teaching would work well in coding. I find team teaching works well if good relationship between tchrs exists, and willingness to learn from each other, to facilitate creation of synergies,
I'm enjoying it! Main reason was for behaviour reasons.... but in class now all students get 1 on 1 meaningful teacher time. Definitely beneficial. Just wondered was there more to it then just me as a support? #edchatie
I have a couple of Team Teaching questions for those of us who don't operate this way very much:
1. Any hints/tips on how to do it?
2. Any feedback from the students on how it goes?
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@fboss SEN teacher in a Gaelscoil . Involved in a lot of in-class work for the last few years . Team teaching isn’t the magic wand for every difficulty but worth investigating in your own school context #edchatie
#edchatie Team teaching would be good #STEM teaching - you can have students working on different aspects of STEM projects at different times and the ability to call on the teacher with the relevant expertise would be the way to go. Large classes would be ok in this scenario.
#edchatie or if team teacher is available for all periods then team teacher can work with the students who need the most help. In science team teachers can rotate the teaching of topics focusing on their particular speciality (chemistry, physics or biology)
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#EqualPayforEqualWork#edchatie@VoiceforTeacher
Hi Jana, this is the technical term used by the people computing our models. It wasn't meant to insult, we wanted to be consistent with the models being provided which we included as an add-on.
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@heartrattle, @davidcgeary, @VoiceforTeacher
#edchatie Anyone have team teaching embedded in their school? Also thinking it would be great for continuity for students in relation to cover work when a teacher is absent.
I think in Maths that actually keeping the students in the class is more beneficial than taking them out. They are benefitting from the way the teacher has taught them all along & getting the support from 2nd tchr. No disruption to learning or incoherence to teaching. #edchatie
That's an interesting point @ruanemedu - I'm wondering if Team Teaching could be a solution to that? Wondering would students be fine identifying issues they need assistance with in the classroom?
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#edchatie would team teacher work as an expansion of the SNA role https://t.co/l8pNC0h5oB I know SNA training as now delivered involves much more that physical care and assisstance..
Both teacher and students could identify, their regular class teacher should be on the ball with formative assessment? Team teacher follow class teacher lead, students will ask for help #edchatie
Any of the SNAs i work with are a godsend in class. They help out with the work where they can (and where they understand it)! Students respond really well to them. As good as having any other teacher in the class. I don't think SNAs are given enough credit! #edchatie
1. Just start off observing, build it up from there. No one should expect a perfect duo first time.
2. Benefits for student learning is mixed, but we should TT as a method of professional development. #edchatie
I have a couple of Team Teaching questions for those of us who don't operate this way very much:
1. Any hints/tips on how to do it?
2. Any feedback from the students on how it goes?
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The special needs team should be able to identify the approach that best suits the student in these cases, and make the decision on that basis of course. It is personal their individual needs. #edchatie
We ask students to use the Red or Orange traffic light page in the diary to notify the teacher if a student needs guidance....THey leave diary on desk on green page at start of class and turn the page if need be... #edchatie
#edchatie I've had students complain that while they were kept in the class they were put at a table in the back and told not to disturb the rest of the group because the school didn't have the funding to offer them more help. For 4 years.
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@AshDonohoe, @ciara_mcguane, @rathudotie
I think PME or student teachers can be a valuable asset to schools in that they can take on a role as team teacher. School is benefitting as is the student teacher! I see them observing classes and they would benefit as would I if they got involved and helped out! #edchatie
#edchatie Late to the chat, Marie here, Senior Infant teacher. We do lots of team/station teaching in the Junior Classes and find it invaluable. At the moment we have me + 2 SET for 35 mins a day (for 8 weeks) and we are targeting Phonics, Phonological awareness and Writing.(1/2)
I like the idea of breaking down the classroom walls/isolation of the teacher and using #TeamTeaching to develop professionally and for professional dialogue
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I find team teaching a really effective way to facilitate differentiation and a more productive classroom environment as everyone getting attention. New approach for this group & Students' feedback also v v positive thus far #edchatie
I would consider an SNA in the classroom a team teacher. Many of them are work with a number of students in the one class. If that are not considered as a team with the teacher, they should be. #EveryoneAchievesMore#edchatie
Any of the SNAs i work with are a godsend in class. They help out with the work where they can (and where they understand it)! Students respond really well to them. As good as having any other teacher in the class. I don't think SNAs are given enough credit! #edchatie
No i don't think the student should be singled out in this case. The extra teacher might be there for them but they can subtly attend to their needs and others. #edchatie
Bill Rogers explained how he was sent into a Science class to teamteach, though he wasn't a science teacher. Principal told him whenever he found a science term hard to understand, assume class did likewise. Idea was to have a non specialist teacher with class teacher #edchatie
(2/2) After midterm, those 2 SETs will go to Jun Infants for 6-8 weeks and do a really intensive block of letter formation/ handwriting. Having your own class in small groups for even 8 mins a day lets you work on issues you'd possibly never even see in a class of 28. #edchatie
#edchatie Teachers response is typically "but I've got to cover the syllabus I don't have time to help the weak ones".. But thats a discusion for another day.
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@ciara_mcguane, @AshDonohoe, @rathudotie
100% Especially if you are building up to more complex problems by scaffolding with examples that are covering prerequisite concepts. I've never thought maths but certainly in programming students can really struggle to make up missed classes covering key concepts #edchatie
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@AshDonohoe, @ciara_mcguane, @rathudotie
#edchatie Maths is profoundly hierarchical... Most students who struggle with math can identify the point where they missed school and were thereafter no longer able to follow..
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@conpower, @AshDonohoe, @ciara_mcguane, @rathudotie
I team taught last year with an English teacher as part of our PME. Loved it. I recorded our reflection in a small little podcast
https://t.co/ISonl6X1nl#edchatie
Yes Finn great guy, did exceptional work on this, travelled from Dublin to Galway to Cork one evening to speak to us on this 10 years ago, I moved to guidance after, can’t understand why team teaching is not the norm #edchatie
I think to justify team teaching (teaching hours are scarce), student results would have to be measured and students interview to measure benefits for them and justify the cost...Also team teaching could be used for Higher attainers as well as SEN needs #edchatie
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My view of secondary is profoundly distorted by viewing it through the medium of youthreach students, whom it has, by definition, failed. #edchatie Many of their accounts are very depresing.
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@ruanemedu, @ciara_mcguane, @AshDonohoe, @rathudotie
School management teams need to be more visible in the sharing of their experiences of the implementation of team teaching as schools often work too independently of each other. #edchatie
I think we might be saying to use whatever works (but in a planned way) to support student learning.
#teamteaching + other methodologies = student support in learning
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@conpower, @CuffeL, @AshDonohoe, @ciara_mcguane, @rathudotie
I agree but i do have to point out that when a tchr has a huge course to finish and 30 students to attend to all having diff abilities... it is hard to give everyone the time they need and get a course done... i don't know the solution to this #edchatie
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@CuffeL, @ruanemedu, @ciara_mcguane, @rathudotie
