#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.

Wednesday April 4, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #ATchat. Our topic tonight is Making Appropriate AT and AAC Recommendations.
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Last week we talked about rethinking Microsoft as AT, UDL, and for accessibility. We have so many factors to consider when making appropriate AT recommendations. Let’s talk about how we make those decisions for communication and learning. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hey now #ATchat Looking forward to our topic tonight
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Apple hosted an education event updating the iPad for education. There are more devices than ever! How do we consider all factors when proposing AT/AAC solutions? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hey MIke - how's everything with you? Have you discovered any new and exciting tools? #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Welcome everyone great to see you all! #atchat
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi Karen! Looking forward to hearing how others juggle all the competing devices. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hey, Sarah - you've become a faithful #ATchat participant. Great to see you here.
    In reply to @SarahGeissWood
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Yes, it should be a productive discussion. Now with Microsoft moving into the education market and the new updates from Apple. Tough time to make decisions #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi all! I've been watching XceptionalED's Special App Update 2018. It has been great! #xceptionalED #ATchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Excited to hear how folks are making decisions regarding AT solutions! #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Welcome and please share the link! #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    I think apple still has the other platforms beat when it comes to AAC apps #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hey Karen! Just found out today that I was accepted into #Picademy Really Excited! #Atchat https://t.co/bitEQMCrPo
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Q1: What process do you use to determine the most appropriate hardware solution for an individual whether it’s for AAC or AT for learning and instruction? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Yes, looking forward to hearing how everyone makes their smart recommendations. #ATchat
    • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
      Hi everyone! Excited to hear how folks are making decisions regarding AT solutions! #atchat
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi everyone I am looking forward to #atchat tonight!
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    ME too!! Jersey City?? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Welcome - great to see you tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @The_app_guide
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    I think it is key to start with the main task objectives and evaluate the student's skills, thus identify the gap between them. Ex. A student with weak decoding but strong comprehension. Then see what technology could do to help with the gap, ex text-to-speech #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Thanks yep. I am in the routine now:) #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1: our team subscribes to the practice of starting with the SETT framework #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Congratulations! Looking forward to learning more. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    YES! June 18-19. You too?? That would be awesome #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1 - What she said - has to start with the SETT Framework - who is the student, what is in the environment already, what tasks does the student need to accomplish and then can make the Tool recommendations. #ATchat
    • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
      A1: our team subscribes to the practice of starting with the SETT framework #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    We have some exciting guest mods/topics coming up. Check out: https://t.co/3Cx35OUB21 to see upcoming topics and past #ATchat conversations
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1 What features do the student need to utilize? Do they do better with a keyboard or Touchscreen. What size can they handle. What platform does the software that matches their needs come on? #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    https://t.co/fMFjMDerBN we like this version with *guiding questions*! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Q1a: As part of the SETT Framework, what assessment tools do you use? #ATchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 While the SETT process is incredibly important, some of it comes down to what do we have in place already in the school setting. So if I have a school full of Chromebook users, first I am going to see what will work on the Chromebook to meet that student's needs #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    can you check permissions on this one? Thanks #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Just asked for permission. #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    I use the SETT Frameworks. I think listening to everyone involved is key. I also try to test out some of the technology to see how it works. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Isn't that the "E" in SETT? #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @mmatp
    • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
      A1 While the SETT process is incredibly important, some of it comes down to what do we have in place already in the school setting. So if I have a school full of Chromebook users, first I am going to see what will work on the Chromebook to meet that student's needs #atchat
      In reply to @mmatp
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: 1. determine task demands/learning objectives. 2. Evaluate student abilities, 3. Identify gaps. 4. Find tools to meet the gap. 5. Evaluate the learning environment, both infrastructure( like internet connectivity) and knowledge of personal. #atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
      Q1: What process do you use to determine the most appropriate hardware solution for an individual whether it’s for AAC or AT for learning and instruction? #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Yes I would put that in the "E" The CB becomes a feature of the environment #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Check out our #ATchat @flipgrid & tell us what excites you about our profession: Flipgrid link: https://t.co/S4e0EGpomB
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    I love this framework and my process is mostly based on it! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    Should be good now! #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A1- depending upon the student, I use tools like the AAC Genie app, uPar and Decoste Writing Protocol as part of the information gathering process which guides recommendations. #ATchat
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Thanks! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Thank you! #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @bcdtech
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Good point. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Q2: Making appropriate recommendations means you often have to trial or explore a variety of tools or devices as part of assessment or consultation. How do you ensure you have the “right” AT/AAC devices available? #ATchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    If we are going to consider hardware already in the environment, I would think some information about the hardware available at home might be important. Our students won't stay in the same school their entire educational career. Families are the longterm support system. #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1: in AAC, I see SETT & feature matching as complementary processes. What’s already in use in the environment absolutely plays a role in the decision as well as if family comes in with something they particularly want to explore. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A1: WATI Assessing Ss Needs for AT: https://t.co/O5k6SHoYqK #ATchat
  • StilesSouth Apr 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    I see a lot of minimally verbal children and families for whom AT has not taken hold or been embraced, not sure of the correct terminology. Any suggestions for tools to assess where the brekdown is or how to help progress? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    It needs to be a team process and a team discussion. #ATchat
    • StilesSouth Apr 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
      I see a lot of minimally verbal children and families for whom AT has not taken hold or been embraced, not sure of the correct terminology. Any suggestions for tools to assess where the brekdown is or how to help progress? #ATchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2 @AACCaroline has a saying "Dance with the partner you came with" You might not always have the "right" AT/AAC device available, so you start w/what you have and see what works or what is missing and go from there #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: Part of our AT Toolkithas to be tech tools that are representative of each hardware type, operating system #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    Q2: data collection methods; lots of perspectives; video examples; and importantly studentvoice/choice. And of course it's a constant revisit of...is this *still* the right modality? #atchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    I find providing education for the family helps the home environment. To assess gaps I find taking a communication sample using the Communicaiton Sampling Analysis software is helpful https://t.co/VgoITArBS4 #ATchat
    In reply to @StilesSouth
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: this is the hardest question for multiple reasons. Multiple factors have to be considered simultaneously and what works for one assignment perfectly may be horrible for another assignment despite it being the same student using the set up #atchat
    • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
      Q2: Making appropriate recommendations means you often have to trial or explore a variety of tools or devices as part of assessment or consultation. How do you ensure you have the “right” AT/AAC devices available? #ATchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    Doing a routines based interview with the family is also a way to ensure that you are meeting the family's needs when considering AT or AAC for use at home. What are their priorities? #atchat
    In reply to @MaegeK, @StilesSouth
  • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2: lots of AAC options are available on the iPad, & it’s possible to emulate many devices. Eye gaze- I contact vendors to borrow for a demo for interested parties. #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    #Atchat gentle teaching and break the myths of AT & AAC
    In reply to @StilesSouth
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 I find you have to talk to the student, teachers, and specialists. I also read the testing. I look at what specific need(s) that are most important in this case and I try to match this with technology. You have to try it to be sure. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    Is that part of the challenge? How do you identify the one best AAC app? #ATchat
    • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
      A2: lots of AAC options are available on the iPad, & it’s possible to emulate many devices. Eye gaze- I contact vendors to borrow for a demo for interested parties. #ATchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2: I try to make sure I have the basic features covered across different software/hardware I have. I also use vender supports to help more specialized clients! #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    A2: For those "specialized" tech tools (eye gaze, etc) - reach out to manufacturers & state level AT loan programs #Atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Q2A: Do you borrow from your AT Loan Centers or do you have all the options available to you through your district AT Library? #ATchat
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    @VickiBostonSLP I like this answer. Contacting vendors is a great practice. #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @VickiBostonSLP
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    SETT, feature matching, student preference, data collection. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2A: Find your state AT Act Project: https://t.co/bmn06icpPq Ask about loan programs #Atchat
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Technology specialist have to remember patience when teaching families and students. Myths don't break instantaneously it takes time. Taking the time upfront works the best for long-term technology adoption. #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @StilesSouth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Q3: What happens when your technology recommendations don’t align with the district’s technology devices(like 1-1 programs) or the district’s technology proficiency? For example, the SLPs don’t know the AAC device or app or the Ts don’t use the AT. #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    @VickiBostonSLP So much about it being the right fit for a student is said by the look on their face when they are using it. Obviously this would not be a measurable outcome, but considers the social-emotional component. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @VickiBostonSLP
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Hey all I’m finally here! Wednesday nights are hard because we have faith Formation classes until 820… I will catch up #atchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Student preferences are so important & they can be overlooked. #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK, @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    I agree. While not measurable, this is a good indicator sometimes! #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @KarenJan, @VickiBostonSLP
  • Speech_Place Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2: I compare device features and matching it best with the student needs to make the connection to help them access their education #atchat
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    good answer. #atchat Patience and taking your time is very important.
    In reply to @SarahGeissWood, @alysstets, @StilesSouth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Great to see you tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @Spedtechmia3
  • NWingate5 Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2a: Always trialing variety of AT and AAC through our state lending library @PATINSPROJECT and vendors #atchat
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    In Florida, and with the districts I serve… We’re lucky to have both :-) #ATChat
    • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
      Q2A: Do you borrow from your AT Loan Centers or do you have all the options available to you through your district AT Library? #ATchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2a: I have use our AT library, mostly for hardware. I really try to have software available. Because I work AT in one building (half SLP caseload) I need to have things available pretty quickly. I get a lot of time for evals but its spaced out. #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A2a: all of these: state loan library, internal district loan, intermediate unit loan library, vendors #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    In the past week, i had five students WANT to continue writing because they finally had tools that bypasses their challenges. Previously, they avoided it at all costs. #ATchat #givestudentswhattheyneed
    In reply to @alysstets, @VickiBostonSLP
    • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      @VickiBostonSLP So much about it being the right fit for a student is said by the look on their face when they are using it. Obviously this would not be a measurable outcome, but considers the social-emotional component. #ATchat
      In reply to @KarenJan, @VickiBostonSLP
  • NWingate5 Apr 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    Q3 We collaborate, take it upon ourselves to learn, and share with staff. #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3: When the choice of tool doesn't align w/ district tech choice/proficiency - AT Service becomes critical. Must set up S to be successful! #Atchat
  • Speech_Place Apr 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A2a: Both. We are fortunate to have several iPads and lower tech devices on hand but have a great state loaner program for less common tools. #atchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    Setting aside access issues & caregiver/teacher preference about AAC options, I think you can make almost anything work if necessary. But some options lead to better buy-in from stakeholders (especially the user) & easier implementation. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    #Atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @VickiBostonSLP
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    The students preferences are key for long term adoption, if they don't like some stuff they are more likely to abandon the tech. #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @MaegeK, @KarenJan
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Want to read the @Wakelet for past #ATchat conversations? Check out: https://t.co/3Cx35PccqB
  • KerriHslp Apr 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3: sometimes need to back up and lay some groundwork/training to set stage for successful implementation #ATchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    A3: If the student needs something specific, I've rarely had trouble getting districts to purchase it. If an SLP/teacher doesn't know I will support them. Student success is paramount. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Oh, yeah! Happy dance time! #ATchat
    In reply to @alysstets, @VickiBostonSLP
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    I have had that same experience. The writing process with the proper tools is so different!! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @alysstets, @VickiBostonSLP
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3 Getting educators and students to buy into the device is key. I try to recommend devices on a platform that the school uses. I also offer training and follow up and offer help. Buy-in and communications is a big part of what we do. #atchat
    • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      Q3: What happens when your technology recommendations don’t align with the district’s technology devices(like 1-1 programs) or the district’s technology proficiency? For example, the SLPs don’t know the AAC device or app or the Ts don’t use the AT. #ATchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3 Coaching becomes key, along with just in time, bite-sized portioned professional learning #atchat
  • atslp_jan Apr 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3: happens a bit. I borrow from vendor or lending lib. Access training resources, try it myself then teach others. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3 - Sometimes, what is available doesn't meet the needs of the student. Need the team to buy-in and purchase what the S needs. #ATchat
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Let’s be honest, this probably happens more often than not, where the teacher doesn’t have proficiency or the SLP in the classroom doesn’t know the recommendation… That’s why it’s so important for it to be a team consideration at every IEP meeting #ATchat
    • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
      Q3: What happens when your technology recommendations don’t align with the district’s technology devices(like 1-1 programs) or the district’s technology proficiency? For example, the SLPs don’t know the AAC device or app or the Ts don’t use the AT. #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Agreed! I’ve been fortunate. Shifting the perspective in a kind but firm way has been helpful. When t’s and SLP’s felt empowered and okay with not being “perfect”, cool stuff happens. #ATChat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A3: to be blunt--it's about the student...if it's best to meet student then learn it ! #atchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    and lots of modeling for staff, just like we need to model for students! #atchat
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Does the team have the funds or how does that purchase happen? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Agreed! We look at what we are currently using, what features match the problem, and work collectively to solve it. If that doesn’t work, we look at other tools/devices, #ATChat
    In reply to @The_app_guide
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Q4: We saw last week at Apples edu event-a new iPad was unveiled aimed at the edu market? What was your take? Do you think it will successfully top Chromebooks? #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A3: Also - when the appropriate tech is different than the district choice- we must educate teams on why we selected. Remind them that AT is student specific>not same as 1-1 tools #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    READ: The 5 biggest announcements from the Apple education event https://t.co/1tTylj3AUb? #ATchat
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    But then Google Chrome came out with a tablet... #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Should have capitalized TEAM... and there needs to be time for trials, coaching teacher, therapist and parents... or the student will lose out #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    By law, there needs to be a decision maker at the IEP team meeting who can approve the pruchase. #ATchat
    In reply to @SarahGeissWood
    • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      Does the team have the funds or how does that purchase happen? #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: I don't think its about who beats who, I think they both have different but equally important purposes in AT. #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    More than “just a box to check off” of the IEP. Same can be said for #AEM on our IEP too. #ATChat
    In reply to @Spedtechmia3
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    READ: What Apple’s Edu Announcement Means for #A11Y https://t.co/SghH6PUZmM #Atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Exactly! Price point is the same>>issues maybe the same. No physical keyboard. Needs a Case. #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Not every teacher has the same attitude or the same faith in themselves! #atchat
    In reply to @alysstets
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    For many of my students no physical keyboard and being able to get a strong case are pros on the iPad column. #ATchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @bcdtech
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Thanks that makes sense.#atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • atslp_jan Apr 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4: will be competitive but no. Google tools for ed like Google classroom are ingrained. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    True. But we have seen in the past>>>price can dictate district purchases. #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Tool to task. #ATChat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Droid has sooo many tablets. They just can't beat Apple with the app options available on the iPad for programming reasons. Not to mention case options, keyguards, etc. #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @mmatp
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    So can ease of IT support in the Chromebook vs. iPad debate #ATChat
    In reply to @mmatp, @MaegeK
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Prices have dropped in recent years. AT is often cheaper than other options. That is so hard to explain to people. #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @MaegeK
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    yes-great point. Support is important #ATchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @MaegeK
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    I agree that so far android is not close to iOS, but with a chrome tablet... just thinking it may be a step in the right direction #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK, @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    So with the new education iPad, Office 365, Chromebook, etc, so many factors to consider when making recommendations. #ATchat
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A:4 GREAT QUESTION... think that although Apple is superior in the accessibility area, on a global uses 1:1 they still lack in price point, durability & to add a keyboard you need to PAY even MORE $ .... think it’s great for some but still not versatile enough for all #ATChat
  • bcdtech Apr 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Agree- if you can manage them all on one admin dashboard, which is what I understand vs having jamf, etc... I would do it as an IT #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp, @hillarygfphdatp, @MaegeK
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A4: just brainstorming but for districts in rural America with low Internet connectivity I would imagine Apple may be better. What does everyone else think? #atchat
    • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      Q4: We saw last week at Apples edu event-a new iPad was unveiled aimed at the edu market? What was your take? Do you think it will successfully top Chromebooks? #ATchat
  • Speech_Place Apr 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A4: I love the added stylus! So many students at our 1:1 iPad schools struggle with fine motor and using lighter touch to write on worksheets. #atchat
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A4 Having written an app guide for the iPad I can say Apple had the education market and dropped the ball. If they listen to educators and fill needs they might get some of it back but Chromebooks are what people want today. #atchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I know the apple price for 1 iPad is 329, but I know my program purchases them in bulk because they are cheaper, and I am unsure what that bulk price is. I assume that is the same for Chromebooks? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q5: What advice do you have for those who are new to the field of AT and need to participate in the AT/AAC Recommendation process? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    The fact is the Chromebook is not the answer for many students. Need choices, need optoins. #ATchat
    • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
      A4 Having written an app guide for the iPad I can say Apple had the education market and dropped the ball. If they listen to educators and fill needs they might get some of it back but Chromebooks are what people want today. #atchat
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    I agree. Most of my apps need to work off wifi. I wouldn't want to be without my AAC app because there was no wifi. #ATchat
    In reply to @Speech_Place
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Q4 I still think the iPad is superior for the early childhood world over a Chromebook, so it depends on the environment and students --SETT is not just for AT, but for any ed tech consideration! #atchat
  • chrisduane819 Apr 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    #atchat Love #BookCreator: Need to figure out to to get it more integrated into my classroom... @SpEdcampNJ #edchat #edtech #AppleTeacher
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I think Apple should sell the new iPad with a keyboard case and try to compete with G Suite. There are still a lot of AT apps for the iPad that are great. I still like that iPad for AT #atchat
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5: Don't worry if you feel like you can't keep up and there's way too many options out there for you to know off the top your head. This is why we have a community and we ask each other about the latest developments. #atchat
    • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      Q5: What advice do you have for those who are new to the field of AT and need to participate in the AT/AAC Recommendation process? #ATchat
  • alysstets Apr 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5: fail forward! #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form: https://t.co/wUQEjDPamL #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    This is exactly what happened in our district, as we are 1:1 Chromebook in grades 1-12. (I have iPads in our specialized programs and for AAC-tool to task)! #ATChat
    In reply to @The_app_guide
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Get on QIAT and participate/stalk #atchat ! So many great people to consult with! And don't be afraid to start with what you already know or to start slow.
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    I agree with you, Karen. For AT I still like that iPad and often times a laptop is better. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • Rose_Teach Apr 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    I agree- I believe Apple has the best accessibility features that are user friendly which is key for AT #atchat
    In reply to @The_app_guide
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A5: Seek our the mentorship of someone in your district with experience or your #pln on twitter! In Florida T’s and therapists can get #PD about AT for free through Online PDA courses https://t.co/hGzHJEXCgr and F2F also #ATIA has great webinars #atchat #fledchat #fdlrs
  • hillarygfphdatp Apr 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: Having been that person, connect with your states AT program. Connect to QIAT. Connect here. Connect with others who aren’t afraid of tech and experimenting. #atchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A5: Ask lots of Qs>>seek advice from your #PLN Engage other edus in solutions. Build capacity #Atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Great advice for those new to AT with your A5s. #ATchat
  • Rose_Teach Apr 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Definitely! The screen of an iPad is best for little hands and young dexterity! Track pads and mouses are very hard for early elementary kids to use. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Mentors from #atchat and ATIA have helped me so much!! Thank you to all the AT community for welcoming me the graduate student in fold a few years ago!
    In reply to @Spedtechmia3
  • MaegeK Apr 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A5: Participate in as many learning opprotunities as possible, and then just dive right in. Be patient with buy-in from people who have known you awhile, but you will get there the more they see your recommendations. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    It is so awesome having you part of the AT Community. You are contributing to the needed basis research basis and it's exciting to see what how your work will influence us. #ATchat
    In reply to @SarahGeissWood, @Spedtechmia3
    • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
      Mentors from #atchat and ATIA have helped me so much!! Thank you to all the AT community for welcoming me the graduate student in fold a few years ago!
      In reply to @Spedtechmia3
  • Spedtechmia3 Apr 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I am always learning and am so thankful for my #atchat #pln
    In reply to @SarahGeissWood
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Hillary moving to the Chromebooks is a trend in education. I still love the iPad for AT. #atchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp
  • KerriHslp Apr 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Any suggestions for new ways to build capacity within district? #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp
  • VickiBostonSLP Apr 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A5: best thing I did was go to ATIA. Found a community & the vendor hall is a great place to learn what all those features are really about & what they mean for your students. #ATchat
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the @Wakelet from tonight’s #ATchat tomorrow morning
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Maybe this should be an upcoming #ATchat topic?
    • KerriHslp Apr 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
      Any suggestions for new ways to build capacity within district? #atchat
      In reply to @mmatp
  • KarenJan - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Any final thoughts as we wrap up the April 4th edition of #ATchat?
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    and there are so many more appropriate apps and tools on an iPad! #atchat
    In reply to @Rose_Teach
  • mmatp - Moderator Apr 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Make sure to follow everyone from today’s #atchat Let’s continue to learn and share!
  • The_app_guide Apr 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A5 I would tell someone new to the field to read a lot, listen to people and attend #atchat every Wednesday. #atchat
  • possbeth Apr 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Great chat! I have been so invigorated by our most recent chats! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • SarahGeissWood Apr 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Sounds great to me!! I know it is taking awhile to build research capacity in this area also. #atchat
    In reply to @mmatp