#badgechat Archive

#BadgeChat was founded in December, 2014 by a group of educators who are passionate about credentialing learning and achieving. While there are thousands of us around the globe issuing badges to learners, there was not yet a regular twitter chat for those of us in the K-12 space to gather for learning and sharing about badging. After reaching out to leaders in the field (like the good folks at Mozilla and The Badge Alliance) for their thoughts, #BadgeChat was born.

Monday February 12, 2018
6:30 PM EST

  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:30 PM EST
    Welcome to #BadgeChat! I'm Noah in Denver and I'll be moderating our discussion about this brief report https://t.co/4IjwCfsvOR
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:30 PM EST
    Before we get chatting, please say "Hi" and introduce yourself and your interest in Badges! #badgechat
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:32 PM EST
    Don, Badge Nerd of the North, host of @CanCredCA Canada's Open Badges solution. Happy to participate with @participate on this #BadgeChat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:33 PM EST
    I'm Kyle. UX designer and Open Badge enthusiast! Currently creating a competency-based training experience using Open Badges. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:33 PM EST
    Love that nickname. Think it could be sticky. Great to have you here, Don! #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant, @CanCredCA, @participate
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:33 PM EST
    Hola Kyle! Excited to learn with you, esp to get your UX perspective on these questions! #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • Anamaria_Knight Feb 12 @ 6:34 PM EST
    Anamaria from @participate #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:34 PM EST
    Mark from Chapel Hill and Participate #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:34 PM EST
    We're discussing this paper right now on #BadgeChat! Join us!
  • Dale_Chu Feb 12 @ 6:35 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @SenorG leading a discussion on micro-credentials. Follow along at #BadgeChat!
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:35 PM EST
    Awesome to have you and Mark joining tonight! #badgechat
    In reply to @Anamaria_Knight, @participate
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:35 PM EST
    First question coming up... #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:35 PM EST
    Q1: Why does recognition of “Social Learning Experiences” (p3) matter in today’s world of professional learning? #badgechat
  • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:36 PM EST
    Hi all! I'm Angela, a learning technologies enthusiast and teacher educator based in Chicago, #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:36 PM EST
    A1: Our world is changing fast. Social learning (workshops, online chats, local community events, etc.) is essential to maintaining relevant skills in nearly every field. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:37 PM EST
    Great to see you again Angela!! Hope you'll be at #BadgeSummit in your ChiTown city June 23! https://t.co/TPSB4ep8yX #badgechat
    In reply to @elkorda
  • participate Feb 12 @ 6:37 PM EST
    Q1! #badgechat
    • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:35 PM EST
      Q1: Why does recognition of “Social Learning Experiences” (p3) matter in today’s world of professional learning? #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:38 PM EST
    You said it! Esp dig your point about this being meaningful in nearly every field. The "itch" here isn't just in teacher PD... #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 6:38 PM EST
    Randy Macdonald, program manager for #SuperQuest, the @OregonCSTA PD program for K-12 CS Ed in OR. I also currently manage the digital badges platform for @OregonCSTA. Excited to discuss today's topic: Diverse Learning Experiences Powered by Micro Credentials #badgechat
  • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:38 PM EST
    A1. SLE's are agile constructs and usually based in practice, increasing engagement, efficiency and learner agency. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:39 PM EST
    A1: My learning isn't confined to four walls and two bells...so much of my growth happens through social learning experiences and it only makes sense to start recognizing and valuing them! #badgechat
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:40 PM EST
    A1 Because learning that's connected to reality is social - connected to other people #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:40 PM EST
    Great point about increased engagement. When learners are most engaged, that's probably learning and growth that should be recognized! #badgechat
    In reply to @elkorda
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:41 PM EST
    YES! Let's not forget that our learning is necessarily HUMAN and that connecting with other people is something powerful that Watson can't do better than us. We should recognize this in PD! #badgechat
    • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:40 PM EST
      A1 Because learning that's connected to reality is social - connected to other people #BadgeChat
  • Anamaria_Knight Feb 12 @ 6:41 PM EST
    A1: Because our competence these days largely comes from our ability to form connections in the service of learning: to learn with and from others (as opposed to relying solely on the knowledge in our head) #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:41 PM EST
    Second question coming up.. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:42 PM EST
    Q2: Digital Badges and Micro-Credentials often hang out together but aren’t the same thing. How would you explain the difference to others? (p4) Why does the distinction matter? #badgechat
  • participate Feb 12 @ 6:42 PM EST
    Q2! #badgechat
    • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:42 PM EST
      Q2: Digital Badges and Micro-Credentials often hang out together but aren’t the same thing. How would you explain the difference to others? (p4) Why does the distinction matter? #badgechat
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:42 PM EST
    A1 cont: this #BadgeChat is a great example - I've learned from others and I've learned myself as I've communicated with others
  • juliekeane Feb 12 @ 6:42 PM EST
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 6:43 PM EST
    A1:Recognition of these informal learning experiences can also lead educators to pursue more formal learning experiences that build on what has been learned socially #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:43 PM EST
    #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant
  • juliekeane Feb 12 @ 6:44 PM EST
    and #openbadges can absolutely power the learner and increase engagement #badgechat
    • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:38 PM EST
      A1. SLE's are agile constructs and usually based in practice, increasing engagement, efficiency and learner agency. #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:44 PM EST
    Lol! Welcome to how we roll at @participate #badgechat
    In reply to @juliekeane, @participate
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:45 PM EST
    Awesome point Randy! When we honor learners' own inquiry it will lead to opting into bigger and greater pathways! #badgechat
    In reply to @IA_TAOF
  • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:46 PM EST
    Q2 digital badges can be part of a micro-credentialling system which recognizes learning in discrete competencies, perhaps? #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:47 PM EST
    A2: All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares...sometimes Digital Badges represent micro-credentials but not always. Likewise, some micro-credentials aren't digital (like the CPR/FIrst Aid card in my wallet) #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:47 PM EST
    Digging this way of articulating it... #badgechat
    • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:46 PM EST
      Q2 digital badges can be part of a micro-credentialling system which recognizes learning in discrete competencies, perhaps? #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:48 PM EST
    A2: In my understanding, digital badges are a type of micro-credential, but not all micro-credentials are digital badges. (certificates, Open Badges, micro-degrees, etc) #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:48 PM EST
    Pay attention here! Kyle makes it super accessible: #badgechat
    • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:48 PM EST
      A2: In my understanding, digital badges are a type of micro-credential, but not all micro-credentials are digital badges. (certificates, Open Badges, micro-degrees, etc) #badgechat
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:48 PM EST
    A2 Micro-credentials can be a subset of digital badges or open badges. (But there are other kinds of micro-credentials) But badges can be a lot more: recognition of membership, achievement, trust, even aspiration that can be validated over time (@szerge's dream badges) #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:49 PM EST
    This is a perfect transition to third question....coming up in 20 seconds #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant, @szerge
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:49 PM EST
    Q3: The report touches on the issue of TRUST (p9). Why is Trust an important consideration when designing Badges? #badgechat
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 6:50 PM EST
    A2: The simplest distinction to me is that micro credentials recognize a specific skill or competency within a larger field and digital badges are the technology for encapsulating that recognition. #badgechat
  • participate Feb 12 @ 6:51 PM EST
    Q3! #badgechat
    • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:49 PM EST
      Q3: The report touches on the issue of TRUST (p9). Why is Trust an important consideration when designing Badges? #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:51 PM EST
    A3: one of the answers to this is that as we realize increased "value propositions" with Digital Badge Credentials, it becomes impt to know earner is who they say they are and that achievement is what they claim it is #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:52 PM EST
    There are very few things in lifeI haven’t learned from @szerge #badgechat
    In reply to @donpresant, @szerge, @szerge
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:52 PM EST
    A3: Slightly unrelated, but it is worth noting that building trust is one reason why we have credentials in the first place. They allow us to trust claims someone makes about themselves. #badgechat
  • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:52 PM EST
    Q3 Trust is an important component of the value of the badges to others #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
    A3: I think another related issue with Trust is how much a "consumer" trusts the issuer/validator/endorser of a Digital Badge Credential #badgechat
  • alecbarron Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
    A3: For us this week, trust is key for opening industry access to youth. We need clear signals of competency that are easy to interpret. Evidence with rubrics? Yes. Additionally, we need rich endorsements of these validation processes. #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
    Q3. 10 years ago getting into a stranger’s car or house was the best recipe for disaster - today we have Uber and Airbnb - trust matters #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
    Love this POV. Illustrates that this isn't just new an sexy stuff...general notion has been around forever #badgechat
    In reply to @Kyle_Clements1
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:55 PM EST
    TRUTH #badgechat
    • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
      Q3. 10 years ago getting into a stranger’s car or house was the best recipe for disaster - today we have Uber and Airbnb - trust matters #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:55 PM EST
    YESYESYES. Trust what this man says! #badgechat
    • alecbarron Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
      A3: For us this week, trust is key for opening industry access to youth. We need clear signals of competency that are easy to interpret. Evidence with rubrics? Yes. Additionally, we need rich endorsements of these validation processes. #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:56 PM EST
    A3: Great point. There are multiple groups (Issuers, Earners, Consumers) that all need to trust that the credential accurately represents what it claims to. #badgechat
    • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
      A3: I think another related issue with Trust is how much a "consumer" trusts the issuer/validator/endorser of a Digital Badge Credential #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:56 PM EST
    quick outro question to consider at the end... #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:56 PM EST
    Q4: What is a takeaway or new piece of learning from the report? #badgechat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:56 PM EST
    Love this! #badgechat
    • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
      Q3. 10 years ago getting into a stranger’s car or house was the best recipe for disaster - today we have Uber and Airbnb - trust matters #badgechat
  • participate Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
    Q4! #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
    A4: Analogies are hugely helpful in making these conceptually abstract ideas accessible #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
    Yes - #BadgeChat
    In reply to @alecbarron
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
    A3 How you design badge criteria determines how it will be valued. If it is just a sticker, who cares? If it is meant to provide portable recognition, why will the badge viewer value it? Not just about "quality", also community relevance and *fitness for purpose*. #BadgeChat
  • Kyle_Clements1 Feb 12 @ 6:58 PM EST
    A4: The future for alternative & micro-credentials is bright! #BadgeChat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:58 PM EST
    A4: [from the chat] TRUST is a lot more complicated than we think it is and a lot of really smart people are thinking deeply about it #badgechat
  • juliekeane Feb 12 @ 6:59 PM EST
    Yes! This speaks to the need for ecosystems. Trust can’t be built without relationships #badgechat
    • alecbarron Feb 12 @ 6:54 PM EST
      A3: For us this week, trust is key for opening industry access to youth. We need clear signals of competency that are easy to interpret. Evidence with rubrics? Yes. Additionally, we need rich endorsements of these validation processes. #badgechat
  • Anamaria_Knight Feb 12 @ 6:59 PM EST
    A4: the distinction between micro-credentials/badges/open badges is one of the most clearly articulated I ever read. #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 6:59 PM EST
    #BookmarkThis tweet and have it close when you are designing around Digital Badge Credentials. Brilliant stuff here! #badgechat
    • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
      A3 How you design badge criteria determines how it will be valued. If it is just a sticker, who cares? If it is meant to provide portable recognition, why will the badge viewer value it? Not just about "quality", also community relevance and *fitness for purpose*. #BadgeChat
  • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:59 PM EST
    Q.4 Badges as shipping containers :) #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:01 PM EST
    Awesome chat this week everybody! Thanks to the @participate crew for gifting this helpful report to the world and thanks to all of the smarty pants who joined to share your wisdom! #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:02 PM EST
    And to all you lurkers reading along, favoriting and RTing, we appreciate and value you and your own form of active engagement! You're always welcome at #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Exactly- every twitter chat is not a community of practice, but some are! There should be some way to differentiate #BadgeChat
    • donpresant Feb 12 @ 6:57 PM EST
      A3 How you design badge criteria determines how it will be valued. If it is just a sticker, who cares? If it is meant to provide portable recognition, why will the badge viewer value it? Not just about "quality", also community relevance and *fitness for purpose*. #BadgeChat
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Well, not really trust because their credit card information is held in escrow by the intermediary... I think badges and endorsements are purer expressions of this. #BadgeChat
    In reply to @markjotter
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 7:03 PM EST
    A4: For digital badges and micro credentials, like so much else we find on the internet, trust is the real value proposition #badgechat
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Off-topic: Ticketing is live for #BadgeSummit and speakers and sessions will start getting announced in the coming days and weeks. It's going to be an awesome day in Chicago on June 23rd! https://t.co/PU6KmFePb6 #badgechat
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 7:04 PM EST
    So much love <3! #BadgeChat
    In reply to @elkorda
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:04 PM EST
    I nominate this for deepest tweet of the chat: #badgechat
    • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 7:03 PM EST
      A4: For digital badges and micro credentials, like so much else we find on the internet, trust is the real value proposition #badgechat
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 7:06 PM EST
    ☺️#badgechat
    In reply to @SenorG
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:06 PM EST
    #badgechat
    • elkorda Feb 12 @ 6:43 PM EST
      Learning is fundamentally transmission of knowledge through social processes -- who better to organize than novices and experts in the field? they know what they need to grow -
      In reply to @SenorG
  • markjotter Feb 12 @ 7:08 PM EST
    Don’t disagree, @donpresant - such a good point. Not collecting this info created a blind spot for me but I also don’t think it should distract from the importance of trust based on mutual “rating” - or portable reputation #BadgeChat
    In reply to @donpresant, @donpresant
  • donpresant Feb 12 @ 7:11 PM EST
    Yes! Can be gamed in the short term, but not sustainably. Peer is good - as long as peers realize that peer community is watching. You guys have a good thing going, hope to see you in Chicago in June at #BadgeSummit #BadgeChat
    • juliekeane Feb 12 @ 7:02 PM EST
      I think that’s why badges have to be central to any community of practice. The “value” comes with the recognition that contribution is about community relevance
  • IA_TAOF Feb 12 @ 7:12 PM EST
    Indeed! @elkorda. Your point reminds me of a podcast I listened to just the other day, where an evolutionary biologist claimed that development of human language was probably driven by the need to teach other members of our community what we know. #badgechat
    In reply to @elkorda, @SenorG, @elkorda
  • SenorG - Moderator Feb 12 @ 7:13 PM EST
    And to show the #BadgeChat Love, use promo code "badgechatlove" this week to save an extra $10 off of early-bird tickets:)