#meded Archive
All ideas and resources tweeted alongside #meded are curated and collected here.
Thursday June 29, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to the Medical Education chat (US) I am your moderator for the next hour,
@RyanMadanickMD
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:00 PM EDT
The topic & questions will be announced in a moment…for now, please introduce yourselves
#meded
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:01 PM EDT
If you are tuning in to the
#meded
chat, remember to use the
#meded
hashtag and try to answer with the Topic numbers (T1, T2, T3)
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Lakshman here, pulm/cc fellow in boston. 3.5yo asleep. 2yo loudly sucking thumb. So I lurk in the dark.
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Welcome back to
#meded
chat!
In reply to @laxswamy, @MedEdChat
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We will assume that all of your tweets are your own during this hour unless otherwise stated
#meded
02amor
Jun 29 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi
#meded
! Renee, in Philly. How is everyone this evening?
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Doing well, how about you?
#meded
In reply to @02amor
chanmichellec
Jun 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#things2thinkabout
#productivity
#wellness
@susanjeanreid
#meded
RuthV_MD
Jun 29 @ 6:59 AM EDT
My thoughts on Parkinson's Law & Medicine
#effectiveMD
#womeninmedicine
https://t.co/t3uNqxCjDS
by
@RuthV_MD
on
@LinkedIn
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
T1 about to come up in a few moments
#meded
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Couldn't agree more
#MedEd
srrezaie
Jun 29 @ 3:11 AM EDT
Future of
#MedEd
Inter-professional Education Focus on Empathy & Creativity Teaching Critical Thinking Reflection in Practice
#dasSMACC
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hey
@RyanMadanickMD
- I'm around for a bit tonight
#meded
SapiensMedicus
Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Deshidratación severa en el paciente pediátrico: diagnóstico y tratamiento
https://t.co/PugmF8Q0YF
#Loquedebessaber
#FOAMed
#MedEd
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hello!!
#meded
In reply to @meducate
knowmedge
Jun 29 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Great job! A1: Aldosterone should be at least 15
#ABIM
#USMLE
#MedEd
#Endocrinology
knowmedge
Jun 29 @ 11:28 AM EDT
Q1: Besides having aldosterone:renin ratio >20:1, what does the aldosterone level need to be for 1 hyperaldosteronism?
#ABIM
#MedEd
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
As medical educators we often discuss teaching & assessing our learners, but sometimes our students just need help studying
#meded
CPHJobs
Jun 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
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#MedEd
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meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hey pal!
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
centegracareers
Jun 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
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MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:07 PM EDT
TOPIC 1: How should
#medstudents
change study techniques when they matriculate to
#medschool
? What works well? What works poorly?
#meded
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:08 PM EDT
T1 Instructors need to help learners engage in the content well enough to study. This = proper set-up, objectives, and imprinting
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
#meded
T1 I was just discussing this with a colleague today and the answer is yes & no
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
T1 now live @
#meded
chat: How should
#medstudents
learn to study differently in
#medschool
? What does/doesn’t work?
#hcsm
#medsm
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:09 PM EDT
T1 - we need to prepare them to be lifelong learners. I'm going to talk about this at
@AAMCtoday
meeting in Nov
#meded
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#meded
T1 Reading & re-reading & highlighting notes are the least productive methods....involves no recall
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:10 PM EDT
T1 showing the students how the content is relevant to practice, that it's not just memorizing
#meded
ChristinaJBaird
Jun 29 @ 9:11 PM EDT
RC Translation celebrates the launch of Competence By Design.
@Royal_College
#MedEd
#canada150
#cpd2017
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:11 PM EDT
But how do they accomplish the studying part after hours?
#meded
In reply to @meducate
dpepe88
Jun 29 @ 9:11 PM EDT
completely agree. Wonder if teachers should have a role in educating re: study methods
#Meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
T1
#medschool
experiential learning, self reflection, peer discussion aid in skill development
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
#MedEd
they need to correlate the studying with what the course objectives are, hopefully some being tied to practice
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
02amor
Jun 29 @ 9:12 PM EDT
T1
#meded
Abandon cramming (all ye who enter here). Very, very few people can cram for a test then pull out the knowledge at bedside
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:13 PM EDT
T1
#meded
I will be with our
#medstudents
this fall...the first session of the new year
In reply to @dpepe88
VHCCareers
Jun 29 @ 9:13 PM EDT
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ChristinaJBaird
Jun 29 @ 9:14 PM EDT
RC celebrates the launch of Competence By Design.
@Royal_College
#MedEd
#canada150
#CBDLaunch
ChristinaJBaird
Jun 29 @ 9:14 PM EDT
RC celebrates the launch of Competence By Design.
@Royal_College
#MedEd
#canada150
#CBDLaunch
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Test yourself over and over again. be able to regurgitate onto a blank paper. Rote memorization is critical as well as understanding.
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
T1 study technique and content also need variable methods based upon learning style - listening, drawing, speaking, writing
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
ChristinaJBaird
Jun 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
RC thanks staff at the launch of Competence By Design.
@Royal_College
#MedEd
#canada150
#CBDLaunch
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:15 PM EDT
#meded
T1 That approach tends to result in failure. Too much to digest in
#medschool
to cram
In reply to @02amor
dpepe88
Jun 29 @ 9:16 PM EDT
works well- multiple methods, short sessions, sequenced repetition based on a needs assessment to guide studying!
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:16 PM EDT
This is somewhat overstated - rote memorization also impt. But most students probably err on less comprehension, more memorization.
#meded
In reply to @meducate
ChristinaJBaird
Jun 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
RC staff with Osler and Flexner celebrating a new era in
#meded
.
@Royal_College
#canada150
#CBDLaunch
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
I'll play devil's advocate here -
#meded
testing is not set up for bedside application, it is set up for step 1 passing. Study accordingly.
In reply to @02amor
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#meded
T1 Learning styles are not founded in evidence. Check out
@AceThatTest
to read more
In reply to @abhaydandekar, @MedEdChat, @AceThatTest
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#MedEd
Overstated? I think not.
In reply to @laxswamy
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
unfortunately that is the sad state of truth
#meded
In reply to @laxswamy, @02amor
PedsAly
Jun 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
T1 Need to interact with material soon after lecture. Being engaged and actively listening in class is huge. No multitasking....
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @meducate
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
t1 work in groups well- study on your own, but be able to quiz each other and learn from each other. To teach is to learn.
#meded
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Now this is spot on!
#meded
In reply to @laxswamy, @02amor
Warya_MD
Jun 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
ER med misses huge opportunities to educate the patients at what may be their most receptive moments
#Meded
#smacc
let the discussion begin!
02amor
Jun 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
T1
#meded
I think people misapply reading for a foundation to develop clinical acumen for cramming for a college final
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Absolutely
#MedEd
PedsAly
Jun 29 @ 9:19 PM EDT
T1 Need to interact with material soon after lecture. Being engaged and actively listening in class is huge. No multitasking....
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @meducate
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
That is what i mean by overstated- comprehension is abs. critical to practice, but not to
#meded
success
In reply to @meducate, @02amor
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Talking tonight about Studying in
#meded
. Keep rolling on T1. T2 will be up in just a few minutes
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Ah, got it. It was as understated as overstated 😬
#MedEd
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:20 PM EDT
That is what i mean by overstated- comprehension is abs. critical to practice, but not to
#meded
success
In reply to @meducate, @02amor
dpepe88
Jun 29 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@GLBDallaghan
we need to focus more on the teacher learner duality and emphasize more to learners
#Meded
In reply to @laxswamy, @GLBDallaghan
02amor
Jun 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
T1
#meded
Yes, though updated curricula looks to link those two (practice &USMLE) by course integration
In reply to @laxswamy, @RyanMadanickMD
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
T1
#meded
Wouldn't you agree they can be complementary if done right?
In reply to @laxswamy, @meducate, @02amor
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:22 PM EDT
TOPIC 2: When individual
#medstudents
are struggling, what role do faculty play in assessing and ameliorating their studying skills?
#meded
meducate
Jun 29 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Well played!
#meded
In reply to @laxswamy
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:23 PM EDT
T2 now live at
#meded
chat: What is faculty’s role in helping
#medstudents
learn to study when they’re struggling?
#medschool
#medsm
#hcsm
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:23 PM EDT
T2 now live at
#meded
chat: What is faculty’s role in helping
#medstudents
learn to study when they’re struggling?
#medschool
#medsm
#hcsm
dpepe88
Jun 29 @ 9:24 PM EDT
how would you quantify or describe what you mean by struggling?
#meded
. In relation to knowledge tests? Clinical work?
In reply to @MedEdChat
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Struggling in tests, grades, etc. Medical Knowledge
#meded
In reply to @dpepe88, @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#meded
T2 That's part of my job. Not just enough to coach
#medstudents
initially but follow up for accountability and modifying
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
T2 faculty role w struggling students is tricky because they aren't trying to learn the material now. Peer tutoring maybe better
#meded
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:25 PM EDT
T2 - 1st role to help aid students identifying that they are struggling
#meded
#selfawareness
kristinadzara
Jun 29 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Kristina here from Boston! Swamped but wanted to check in for the last
#meded
chat of the summer.
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Hey there Kristina!
#meded
In reply to @kristinadzara
ChrisWorsham
Jun 29 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Need to figure out whether "studying" will even help, or are they struggling because of communication & team dynamic problems
#MedEd
In reply to @MedEdChat
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
How do you do it?
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
CPHJobs
Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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02amor
Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
T2
#meded
Faculty may ID a student, & maybe coaching/mentoring by a peer can help study strategies
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
T2
#meded
...and get over their pride to seek help
In reply to @abhaydandekar
centegracareers
Jun 29 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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#Huntley
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#MedEd
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RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I should say… What techniques do you use?
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @abhaydandekar
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:29 PM EDT
T2 i think anxiety alone is a major problem for many. We breed more of it instead of fighting it. But that is how we've designed
#meded
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
T2
#meded
Initial mtg we go over exactly how they were studying & discuss approaches to help. Before leaving we set up a follow up meeting
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:30 PM EDT
#meded
identify, listen to student outline struggles, observe current technique, and THEN think about redirection
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
ajumathew_
Jun 29 @ 9:31 PM EDT
My advice for first year hem/onc fellows on how to stay afloat:
https://t.co/Pw6wt5XtHG
#MedEd
#FOAMed
#oncology
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:32 PM EDT
T2
#meded
I work with them to integrate active recall into their study time, discuss preparing for courses that day, time mgmt
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @abhaydandekar
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:33 PM EDT
T2
#meded
time management instruction is integral to learning climate. Crucial !
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @RyanMadanickMD
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:36 PM EDT
What kind of studying deficits do you see as most common?
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @abhaydandekar
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:38 PM EDT
T2
#meded
Mostly passive approaches to learning like spending hours rewriting notes or color coding. Making flashcards they don't use.
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @abhaydandekar
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Well, again the hour is flying by…T3 to come in just a moment
#meded
PedsAly
Jun 29 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Even few min of prep for courses that day often game-changer for struggling students. Casually prereading lecture notes primes brain.
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @RyanMadanickMD, @abhaydandekar
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#meded
processing for the right answer rather than the right pathway of thinking; inability to articulate learning (this takes practice)
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:39 PM EDT
TOPIC 3: In this age of easy rapid info retrieval, what foundational knowledge base of “factoids” is necessary?
#meded
ChrisWorsham
Jun 29 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Students can learn bread & butter topics on wards and in clinic, but they have to hit the books for less common topics & shelf prep
#MedEd
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan, @abhaydandekar
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:40 PM EDT
T3 now live at
#meded
chat: What foundational “factoid” knowledge is necessary to learn nowadays?
#medsm
#hcsm
#medstudents
#medschool
SuzanneNorby
Jun 29 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Hello, Suzanne Norby joining 1st time. Digital distractions intrude during study time, impair concentration, impede learning transfer
#meded
In reply to @RyanMadanickMD, @GLBDallaghan, @abhaydandekar
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Welcome!
#meded
In reply to @SuzanneNorby, @GLBDallaghan, @abhaydandekar
ChrisWorsham
Jun 29 @ 9:42 PM EDT
These "factoids" should focus on how to think about & approach problems, especially for students. Limited role these days for trivia
#MedEd
In reply to @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:43 PM EDT
#meded
T3 Not sure how to respond in 140 characters 😕
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:44 PM EDT
T3
#meded
factoids woven together to understand pathophys basis of clinical care = essential. Factoids alone or for recall - not so much
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:44 PM EDT
You must tweet every factoid needed in the foundational knowledge base ;)
#meded
In reply to @GLBDallaghan
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:45 PM EDT
T3 So much foundational knowledge still needed. We take a lot of it for granted. The flame of clinical reasoning needs its fuel.
#MedEd
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Yet, we still base a lot of our assessments on them…
#meded
In reply to @ChrisWorsham, @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:45 PM EDT
T3
#meded
True, but are there fundamental topics to establish a foundation from which reasoning begins? If so, who identifies them?
In reply to @ChrisWorsham, @MedEdChat
belinda_lategan
Jun 29 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Like engaging interactive content fun facts and
#meded
? It's not too late to@join in
#dermpathjc
AnnieMorrisonMD
Jun 29 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Join the
#dermpathJC
discussion, or catchup on what we talked about by
#TwitterStalking
the hashtag 👆🏼 🤗
#dermpath
#education
@ASDPTweets
no0ovatilly
Jun 29 @ 9:46 PM EDT
What about conducting needs assessment to better understand the students' point of view?
#Meded
In reply to @MedEdChat, @kristinadzara
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:47 PM EDT
T3
#meded
@laxswamy
That's so elegantly stated. Bravo!
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:45 PM EDT
T3 So much foundational knowledge still needed. We take a lot of it for granted. The flame of clinical reasoning needs its fuel.
#MedEd
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:47 PM EDT
T3
#meded
take illness scripts or health outcomes and work backwards to ID fact foundations that are critical
In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @ChrisWorsham, @MedEdChat
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Jun 29 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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Jun 29 @ 9:47 PM EDT
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Jun 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
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#meded
#FOAMed
#hcsm
PedsAly
Jun 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
T3 When any learner says this, have to pull out 'The eyes cannot see what the mind does not know'. Pretty sure it's required by
#meded
law.
In reply to @MedEdChat
laxswamy
Jun 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@DrYadavalli
would love this idea. If he designed undergrad
#meded
, I daresay this is how he'd play it.
In reply to @abhaydandekar, @GLBDallaghan, @ChrisWorsham, @MedEdChat, @DrYadavalli
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#meded
Point of view related to what specifically?
In reply to @no0ovatilly, @MedEdChat, @kristinadzara
RyanMadanickMD
Jun 29 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Such a great axiom
#meded
In reply to @PedsAly, @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:51 PM EDT
#meded
That's my first step when advising
#medstudents
In reply to @no0ovatilly, @MedEdChat, @kristinadzara
MedEdChat
- Moderator
Jun 29 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Well, we have about 5 more minutes left in our discussion. Please feel free to give some final thoughts
#meded
drjfrank
Jun 29 @ 9:56 PM EDT
You can download the report from the WHO website! McGaghie et al 1978...
https://t.co/hxC2wNM7aF
#meded
#cbme
mgalandejuana
Jun 29 @ 5:50 PM EDT
1978! Wow :O
In reply to @phdhpe, @drjfrank, @WHO
ChrisWorsham
Jun 29 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Go back to basics & assess students' understanding of pre-clinical topics--need a solid framework to add new facts to
#MedED
In reply to @abhaydandekar, @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
GLBDallaghan
Jun 29 @ 9:58 PM EDT
#meded
Taking time to coach
#medstudents
is worth every minute. Most times it just takes a little guidance & they begin to soar
In reply to @MedEdChat
abhaydandekar
Jun 29 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Great topics
#meded
- learners benefit from studying teachers "think out loud" about how they process and synthesize info into action
PedsAly
Jun 29 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Final thoughts - no student WANTS to be doing poorly. Candor delivered with kindness is essential when helping others change habits.
#meded
In reply to @MedEdChat
