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Tuesday January 10, 2017
9:00 PM EST
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
9pm - Time for
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- Talking DL play vs the Pass; sponsored by
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Let's get those intro's rolling! Welcome coaches!
In reply to @JustPlaySS
CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
Alex Duda - DL Coach - Dearborn HS (Dearborn, MI)
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
Cody French Defensive line coach Seymour, IN
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JustPlaySS
Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
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- Talking DL play vs the Pass; sponsored by...
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
As always we follow the Q1/A1 format; be sure to retweet/like it up; follow each other and use
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in all tweets!
CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
Chris Kizer. DC/DL. Arkadelphia AR
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JRGrayson
Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
John Grayson - LB's Coach - Montini Catholic High School. Lombard, IL
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
Brandon Behnfeldt Delphos Jefferson HS OH
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CoachCurran42
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Bobby Curran Co-Defensive Coordinator & LB Coach Loyola Blakefield Towson MD
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Andy Swedenhjelm Defensive Coordinator/LBs Newton High School, Newton, IA
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Cody Case, DLine Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA.
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WR_CoachHepp
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Steven Hepp DC Wisconsin Rapids HS
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coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Phil Dober - DC - Clements HS, Sugar Land TX
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ecust23
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Eric Custer - head coach - auburndale HS - auburndale wi
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Cody G Park City, UT Get back coach done good. DC/LB/RB/STC
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DCcoachV
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Nick Velazquez DC Orland HS
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CoachKelleyAHS
Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Zach Kelley. DC and LB coach. Also host of
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on Thursdays!
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
Aaron Nowell DC/LB Broken Arrow, OK
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
Josh Hadden. HC @ Aiken Middle School. Aiken, SC
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coachcraig46
Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
Craig Ryan - LBs Walker Valley HS (Cleveland, TN)
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
Ryan Kleppe HC/DC Mt. Horeb/Barneveld (WI)
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Coach Alex Rouggly - HC Jefferson MO
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Coach, I can swim move, see!
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CoachKelleyAHS
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
lots of things I would miss and this ain't one of them!
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Hello
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Love seeing new names - welcome fellas to
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- glad you are here!
CoachByrd_
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jamelle Byrd Def Coord./ LB's Harding HS Charlotte NC
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TYash42
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Onalaska Football Clinic will be help Feb 4th.
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Great line up of speakers!
#wisfb
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jrmyhanson
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jeremy Hanson Head Coach, Blair-Taylor, WI
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Jason Wilson DL & SC,
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Q1 is coming right up - keep saying HI
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CoachTWill22
Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Trevor Williams-DBs- South Forsyth HS, Ga
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3anout
Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
Richard Fong. DC Oaks Christian High School.
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
Zach Carlton- DC - Palmer Ridge HS, CO
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Start with the skill set - what are you looking for in a great pass rusher?
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Ryan McDonald OL Mooresville HS (IN). Host of
#Zonefballchat
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CoachAdams9
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Tony Adams olb coach Portland Tennessee
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PLesu07
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
monterey, calif. checkin in
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 great feet, hands and hips
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CoachCurran42
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: ATTITUDE
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CoachKelleyAHS
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: Relentless effort to the QB! We can yeah pass rush moves, effort is CRITICAL!
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1 Get off, hand quickness, RELENTLESS EFFORT!
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: Great eye discipline, hand reaction, motor, vision, and instincts.
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CoachWoulfe
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
Dan Woulfe-Corners - Metea Valley HS, Aurora, IL
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
A1: Great hands/feet w/ an absolute drive as a pass rusher
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In reply to @rmacblue
coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Ball-get-off, non-stop motor, great hands and balance
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: SPEED OFF THE BALL. We had a pass rush package just for our 4 fastest linemen.
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Ben Clubb, Linebacker coach at Balko HS (OK) ready for another great chat!
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brgredd
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1 quick hands. Beat the hands beat the offensive lineman
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Q1 Bonus Thought - Is LENGTH important at all?
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Cameron Greene Dline Palacios HS, Palacios, Tx
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
I like to see good get off, explosive speed, aggressive hands, and a relentless drive to get to the qb!!
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: 6'5 235lbs, runs a 4.4 and can bench 450 and squat 500lbs
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1) Get off is a great start, but we also focus a ton on hands. I feel using hands is underrated at the HS level.
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1, Instinct, Explosiveness, want a fast first step and ability to react to OL technique.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Great First Step! An ability to gain as ground as you can. Good Body Lean & Quick Active Hands.
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3anout
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1. Tenacity
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
A1: Great get off, able to use hands/feet/hips well. Has good primary move and reliable counter move.
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: A motor, length, feet, hips and hands.
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CoachByrd_
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 Explosin off the ball, good with hands and just a refusal to be block
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PLesu07
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: good burst, good use of hands and insane motor
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: Nasty hands. Great first step.
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: Strong initial punch and great footwork. Great pass rushers have to get separation
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Start with the skill set - what are you looking for in a great pass rusher?
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coachcraig46
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: Quick get off, hip flexibility, hands, & love a good motor to get to Q..
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 Bonus Length sure does help the ability to keep OL off of you makes things a tad easier
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1) Length is great, but a lot of times your at the mercy of the gene pool. Can make up for it with motor and get off
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ecust23
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1: a great jump on the snap, great hands, and a great finisher
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SSHS_CoachCoons
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
Jon Coons Saratoga Springs HS DC/LB/WR coach. Saratoga Springs NY
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
A1 Good stance, quick off ball, violent hands, staying low.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Start with the skill set - what are you looking for in a great pass rusher?
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
I think we would all like one or two of those!! Haha
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In reply to @Coach__French
CoachKelleyAHS
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Height isn't a huge factor, but some long arms DEFINITELY help!
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CoachWoulfe
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: 6inch Power step and accurate heavy hands
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: great balance of power and speed, smart, great hands and feet. Relentless and physical.
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 bonus: It's nice to have, and I'll take that. but like most coaches on here, the players motor means more.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Great First Step! An ability to change directions. Good Body Lean & Quick Active Hands. Athlete!
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
Allen Terrell - Blue Valley High School, Kansas City area
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DCcoachV
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1) quickness, hand speed, bend, tenacity. Do they take to coaching?
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1 (Bonus) I think so. Anytime you can work extension w/ hands & drive/power w/ feet/legs is a bonus.
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CoachTeacher13
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Knows how to use his eyes
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coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
Length is definitely a plus if you have it. But need violent hands and a motor to go along with it!
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In reply to @rmacblue
CoachTWill22
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: Motor! And yes, if we have the choice, length is better but not nonnegotiable.
#GottaGo
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3anout
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1. Length is HUGE. Our 6'7" could shut down a throwing lane all by himself. He even intercepted a couple of balls at the LOS.
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coachjsam
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: great bgo, effort, relentlessness, hands, hips and feet. Moves can be taught
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CoachTeacher13
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1: the smarts to know his role in the bigger picture of the defense
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
A1B: I don't think it's need but it is not a bad thing to have at the HS level. Lately , we have had length.
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 - get off, motor, violent, heavy hands and quick feet
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CoachByrd_
Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 Bonus Length can defintely help but two best pass rushers I ever coach were 5'11 190 and 5'11 205
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1 bonus, length helps, especially for outside rushers being able to maintain separation
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
Very nice start - good wish list! Q2 is up in 2 min.
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
A1 Length is a plus if it's used effectively..look at guys like Dumervil/Harrison who r short w/ great leverage & explosiveness
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
@CoachWoulfe
Why the 6 inch power step on a pass rush?
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In reply to @CoachWoulfe
CoachWoulfe
Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: 6inch Power step and accurate heavy hands
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
A1B: Not the end all be all, but creating extention is hard to beat.
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CoachWoulfe
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1: also love when they can separate and continue push to qb without collapsing elbows
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
If you ever get a chance, check out DL coach at Iowa State Eli Rasheed. Got GREAT pass rush techniques when he was at Toledo
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
A1) high effort ..... motor
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q2: Let's move on to STANCE; how do you teach a good pass rush stance? Any specific drills?
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
Get off drill is always a good one but for edge guys need to be closer feet more stagger lower to ground
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WheresTheCeph
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A1. Get off, flexibility, hands and creativity.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Start with the skill set - what are you looking for in a great pass rusher?
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: player being comfortable pre-snap is important, everyone's stance is a lil different, must be able to explode/cover ground
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CoachTeacher13
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: Been a while since working with DL, but always used to teach biomechanics and highlight inefficiencies vs efficiencies
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2) I want them take as much of the ball as they can, with their up leg under there chest, a little narrow,
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2, Narrower feet than base stance, slightly larger feet stagger, heavier on hand with butt higher than shoulders.
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Some guys excel standing up. Have to know your guys.
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Stance for us really doesn't change much. I love getting them under the chute with hoop going out and set a blocker
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: I do not teach any different stance for pass rush. I want a balanced stance that we can use against run or pass.
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Each player is different, give them the basics and allow them to be comfortable as long as it is effective.
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CoachTeacher13
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Showing diagnostic film to players of themselves was always huge.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Narrow "Track Stance". Heel / Toe Depth. 1st Step, gain as much ground as you can w/Staggered Foot. Stance & Start Drills!
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: Cont: blocker in front and they have to work move off him running the hoop. Set up bag with ball at top to create sack
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
A2: I don't teach different stances. Want my guys to get the same explosion off the ball and read their keys as to pass/rush.
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DCcoachV
Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
This is how we approach it.
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
A2: player being comfortable pre-snap is important, everyone's stance is a lil different, must be able to explode/cover ground
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: We do gets off drill under neath the shoot and work juke step and hip flip as one motion out of stance.
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Lower center of gravity, little bit bigger foot stagger, heavy hands...relentless
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: we have a read and react drill that we use and pass rush is part of the drill, will include more of it if playing pass team
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2 get off drill, chutes, big on big vs the pass.
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2) We talk a lot about more weight forward and weight on the front foot. Weight on the front foot = easier to drive off
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Ball hand down. Want to be going that way.
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
A2: Heavy on the hand, inside foot slightly up. Can really help on the initial ball get off
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2, drill stance and first step daily. We key movement. Never start a drill on verbal cue.
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
gotcha!! This is definitely my weak point of the defense!! Thank you.
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In reply to @CoachWoulfe
brgredd
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2 whatever is the most explosive first step for a players strength. I coached 1 player to get in 4 point close to ground
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: Will tilt ends in jet stance on occasion to really get them going
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coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: slightly narrower base. More weight on hand. Great to work under a shoot to combat tendency of some kids to pop up
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coachjsam
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: get as much as you can on the ball. Head behind hands. Track stance. We don't have a special stance for pass rush
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
@rmacblue
great stuff
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In reply to @Coach__French, @rmacblue
CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2 Elongate...hand(s) out in front of facemask...butt up...some kids go 3/4 point depending on comfort...gain ground
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
A2 cont: One of my EDD's is the Rabbit Drill. Explode under the chute then change direction. Got it from Michigan State.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
I really like to see the extra questions and coaching points - really good stuff tonight guys.
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2, also do 1 on 1 with OL every week too
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ecust23
Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: we do not teach a specific stance for pass rush because most of the teams in our conference are heavy rub teams
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: Going through the shoot is usually a daily drill. Always go on ball movement
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
we haven't but I'm sure
@rmacblue
had that in the cards somewhere.
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In reply to @CoachRmcD60, @rmacblue
JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2:
@R2X_Rushmen1
Coach Larry Johnson from OSU is very, very good explaining DL techniques. Check him out if you get a chance.
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In reply to @R2X_Rushmen1
coachcraig46
Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: saw drill while back with raised speed ladder/cone in front of rusher to work on first step. Chute is great for low get off
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
How much cut block do you see in quick pass game?
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
A2: partial to a 4 point for interior, shorter, stocky type players
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3: Interesting Q from a fellow coach: When (if ever) do you teach your DL to get hands up to bat down passes? Drills?
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
If we are throwing out college guys we love. Notre Dame's Keith Gilmore, his guys produce in the NFL.
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
as an O line coach we full cut 7-9 times a game
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In reply to @CoachJPWilson
tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
@rmacblue
we haven't seen a ton but we teach if our aiming point goes down, hands go down to play off cuts.
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In reply to @CoachJPWilson, @rmacblue
CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
agree Coach. We use chute for all getoffs (pass and run) daily. Tech chute is vital - ability to raise and lower.
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In reply to @BenClubb32
coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
@rmacblue
we sit quite a bit. Why we work hands everyday with our D-Lineman during Indy time.
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In reply to @CoachJPWilson, @rmacblue
CoachAltmanWM
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A1: motor. Ive had great pass rushers who werent as good with other things be disruptive due to motor
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3 if you aren't gaining ground on rush get your hands up try and bat something down
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: Gameplan, if a team does a lot of quick game or if you are trying to keep a quarterback in the pocket.
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: At least once a week, build it into our TnT (Tackle and Takeaway) circuit.
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2Get offs EDD-cone landmarks-beat OL 2 corner-then have OL either keep shldr vert/ or turn horiz 2 cue arnd crnr or cntr under
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coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A3: internal clock/feel. If you aren't gonna get there, get your arms up and make a diamond to take the ball right from QB hand
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DCcoachV
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3) I'm interested in what others do. We do not coach this enough.
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3-when off hand comes off the ball.
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3 we have a mirror the hand drill where we are running towards qb we put our hand up as soon as he takes his hand off the ball
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CoachBehnfeldt
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: if you can't get there and you see the QB loading up the throw, throw the hands up. I don't like them to do on a free run
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: I am no d line coach, but I would have the kids get hands up if their pass rush moves don't work and qb is going his way.
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3: We've taught when Q takes off hand off ball to get hands up. Learned great drill to use VB to work this, bounces back 2 U
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3)Honestly can ever remember doing a drill for it specifically. I guess during pass rush if he Q breaks hands we coach it then
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CoachGrayvold
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3 feel 3 step, if you take a double, or they cut immediately = get vertical in the air. Go make a play.
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: If our DL can't get to QB they are taught "hands up" towards the release process of the QB.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3: We practice it when we face a team that runs a lot 3-Step Drop. Read the QB's eyes and get Hands Up!
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A1 skill set I look for is leverage, hands, create separation, and IQ to know assignment and ID screen draw etc.
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JRGrayson
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
But used to teach us, if the QB's hands break and you can't get there, get your hands up!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3: Interesting Q from a fellow coach: When (if ever) do you teach your DL to get hands up to bat down passes? Drills?
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3) We teach if you are approaching the QB match his hand with yours. If we have a clear path jumping is a Cardinal Sin.
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3 anytime it is cloudy meaning many guys around qb.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3: Interesting Q from a fellow coach: When (if ever) do you teach your DL to get hands up to bat down passes? Drills?
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CoachDShack
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
See the QB passing and you're not there, mirror the throwing hand
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
Sorry I'm late! I was coaching some wrassling
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Love seeing new names - welcome fellas to
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
@rmacblue
by the way, late to party. Rob Altman DL West Memphis AR
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A1) violent hands, quick feet and an absolute love of hunting the QB
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brgredd
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3 if pass rushers move and counter move doesn't work stop and get your hands in passing lanes
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CoachJoshHadden
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3: Intersted in drills. Our conference is HEAVY run, so we don't spend a great deal on pass rush. Tell kids to feel the play
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jrmyhanson
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
We teach our interior lineman to get hands up all of the time. We usually see athletic QB's they can't catch. Drill each day
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3, as soon as separated from OL get eyes on ball, if QB arm is up & cant get there, get hands up
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A1 speed, good hips, ability to use leverage, great hands.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
Q1: Start with the skill set - what are you looking for in a great pass rusher?
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
A3) We'll only jump if we are held up at the line as a last resort. Matching hands has been much more effective for us.
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
Q2 we don't not change base stance for pass rushing. We want players to be able to read and react. We may adjust align per call
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SharonCoach
Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
A3 I teach the DL to get hands up to bat a pass when they get stalemated. Only leave feet if QB is in full throwing motion.
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
Six inch power step! I love it when OL and DL techniques cross over!
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
A2 I coach DEs. Stand ups. Inside foot back hands cocked t attack shoulder and V. Good pad level, eyes to helmet screws
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q2: Let's move on to STANCE; how do you teach a good pass rush stance? Any specific drills?
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jrmyhanson
Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3 We teach our interior lineman to get hands up all of the time. We usually see athletic QB's they can't catch. Drill each day
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
A3: We talk about, but don't emphasize it like I should. I spend my time preaching getting off blocks and penetration.
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
A1. Long arms. Make it like throwing in a Forrest. Violent hands keeping blockers off. Timing/get off speed.
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
A3 never jump. Hands up if you can't make hit/balls coming out.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3: Interesting Q from a fellow coach: When (if ever) do you teach your DL to get hands up to bat down passes? Drills?
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
@coachrugs
In what situation do you do this? When you are thinking screen or run?
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
@rmacblue
we sit quite a bit. Why we work hands everyday with our D-Lineman during Indy time.
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B_Dbl_P
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3 As a QB coach I would mey when his hand separate. The OL set will paint the picture first.
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
A1. When it's a game of inches we're talking about. YES!
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
Q1 Bonus Thought - Is LENGTH important at all?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
I'm trying to read these responses to Q3 as I like/retweet; almost seems like we think of batting balls instinctive vs learned!
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
The "next level" techniques are often the luxury of programs that can effectively two-platoon.
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3: When the ball leaves the hand usually like to try and get a hand on it
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B_Dbl_P
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
A3 As a QB coach, I would mey when his hand separate. The OL set will paint the picture first.
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
Nick Davis OLBs. Christian Heritage. OKC.
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3 never leave the ground if engaged. If they can't get there and are in lane get hands up. If you get a shot on QB take it!
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
@tsbulldawgs64
did you do this with the inside hand or outside hand of Dlineman? We had a bit of a debate this year!
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3) We teach if you are approaching the QB match his hand with yours. If we have a clear path jumping is a Cardinal Sin.
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
You can make them for ~$20. 1/2" pvc pipe, connectors and glue. Great to teach lean.
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DCcoachV
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
That is basically how our staff has done it. Kid either has that instinct or does not.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
I'm trying to read these responses to Q3 as I like/retweet; almost seems like we think of batting balls instinctive vs learned!
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CoachDShack
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
Q1 bonus: this deals with OTs but I bet there's crossover.
https://t.co/nXghnQKN56
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
Well thought out drills make the learning become instinctual.
#SmartCoaches
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CoachAltmanWM
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 Coach it during group/team periods...hard 2 simulate in Indy...keep rushing if possiblesee QB throwing motion--stay on feet
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
A3 we go full line. Attacking and hands up when I throw. We knocked down alot of balls as DEs. Being 6'2" helped.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
Q3: Interesting Q from a fellow coach: When (if ever) do you teach your DL to get hands up to bat down passes? Drills?
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
A2) high hips, 2 pass rush moves in my mind right now - gotta have a plan, eyes go from ball to key to QB IF they get pass key
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
@CoachMocahbee
Oh no! Debate! GDFR!
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
@tsbulldawgs64
did you do this with the inside hand or outside hand of Dlineman? We had a bit of a debate this year!
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
A3) We teach if you are approaching the QB match his hand with yours. If we have a clear path jumping is a Cardinal Sin.
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
A3) if you get stoned in your rush, sink hips & get separation, eyes on QB when off hand comes off hands in the window
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
I'm feeling guilty for not teach hands up, but then I'm like what do I cut? Only so much time, we don't work reach blocks
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
@CoachMHochard
What benefits do you see with the inside foot back rather than forward?
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
A2 I coach DEs. Stand ups. Inside foot back hands cocked t attack shoulder and V. Good pad level, eyes to helmet screws
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
Q2: Let's move on to STANCE; how do you teach a good pass rush stance? Any specific drills?
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Coaching Hand-to-Hand combat; Best Drills/Coaching Points?
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
@CoachJPWilson
@rmacblue
we see it a lot out of our conference's quick passing game.
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
A4 hand replacement hand in for position and work hand swipes and replacing hand in the fit
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4) Teach it, go slow. Teach the WHY of hand placement and importance of hands & feet working together
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
As mentioned earlier the world of two-platoon coach is LIGHT YEARS away from those who have kids going both ways.
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 QUICK hands, Violent hands, I also teach the Club. I want my guys to.be as violent as possible, playing sound technique.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Coaching Hand-to-Hand combat; Best Drills/Coaching Points?
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 exactly that HAND to HAND combat so one EDD is hand fighting we work if hands are up, down or to our side and 1 hand vs 2
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: Wrist, elbow, downward blow to shoulder, work those three points every day. HAVE TO FOCUS ON CONTACTING THE POINT
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4. Focus on attacking half man. Dominating shoulder gaining full ext. we do a lot of 1v1 pass rush as DEs.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Coaching Hand-to-Hand combat; Best Drills/Coaching Points?
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4: would love some drill cut-ups if anyone has anything to offer.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Coaching Hand-to-Hand combat; Best Drills/Coaching Points?
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4 HAND placement is crucial.I teach them the WHY.
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
Must be why I never heard it. Too busy drawing up plays... 😏
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A4 Keep hands/elbows in tight--chop/swipe depending on OL hand position-break down each phase-then all together..REPS/REPS/REPS
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
That would make sense. You know you won't get there anyway.
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: drill: one players job is to get hands on chest and the other players job is to keep them off. 20 seconds at a time.
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: attack half man and never let his hands get inside of you. Really love working reactionary blocks and work off them
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SharonCoach
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4 I start in the winter for hand to hand is I try to get my linemen to wrestle in the offseason. Also helps their tackling.
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: I always pair hip flip and close with hand combat to try and trigger muscle memory.
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A5) Attack joints: wrist, elbow, shoulder. Let contact press your hips away to clear inside foot/leg.
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coachcraig46
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: have worked partner hand combat; great way to start slow and teach diff moves. Lots of examples online
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
I'd hire this guy. Well, if I were in charge of anything I'd hire this guy.
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
A4 exactly that HAND to HAND combat so one EDD is hand fighting we work if hands are up, down or to our side and 1 hand vs 2
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A2. My OLBs are standing. Usually giving up a ton of mass to Oline. So usually having them blitz on the move never in stance.
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4) pre practice is a great time for working hand placements, also build into INDY and Blitz period
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: I always stress get your hands on the OL before they get them of you. In Run Game = Attack 1/2 a Man; Pass Pro 1/3 of Man
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
If engaged with a blocker our outside hand. Defeat a blocker match his with yours. RH QB would mean left hand.
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
A4: HOGKWONDO!!! Wipe, push up, & palm while opening hips. Back and forth, constant movement, go as fast as possible.
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
Soooooo many lessons gained from wrestling!
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SharonCoach
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4 I start in the winter for hand to hand is I try to get my linemen to wrestle in the offseason. Also helps their tackling.
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
He made it. Power out and phone almost dead, and he still joins the chat. Love it coach!! Haha
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4 We work fit position block release ED...extend/release gap side then have cutback & work hips/hands across w/ leverage &wrap
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
A3 always in team.We emphasize to our scout OL to give good protection looks and QB to use good technique for simulation.
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
A4 first two steps and struck have to be violent. Rep cage drill, steer drill, push pull, teach radial nerve club opens OL hand
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4 I also rep specific moves and when to use them. Club&chop, club&rip, chop &rip, bullrush to flat spin.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
Q4: Coaching Hand-to-Hand combat; Best Drills/Coaching Points?
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
I'm pretty sure that you plagiarized that from the Karate Kid script...
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
A4, off season and preseason work hand fighting. In season during 1 on 1 pass rush/pass pro drill ALWAYS coaching hands!
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
just barely they finally got the power back on!
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
do you think it's better against Power or kick out block?
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
A4-ninja drills, pummeling, work on timing of hands, on pass rush space is our enemy
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
@rmacblue
I like your "and when to use them" comment. So valuable to get kids to understand Awhen each wil work.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Teaching 1/2 man is huge coach!! Great point that kids struggle with.
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A4: attack half man and never let his hands get inside of you. Really love working reactionary blocks and work off them
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SharonCoach
Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
A4 a good drill is also fitting the DL in the worst position and working hand to hand to get free. Starting slow and then fast
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5: "Tackle in a box drill" if the tackle kicks out of the box, go up and under
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
A5) We have an aiming point behind the tackle, if the tackle breaks it first, we will be able to cross face and work inside.
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
QB depth push the T past the QB then come back under. We work an. Edge drill vs OT where they work their tech vs rush
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Coach_V_
Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
A1: I always tell my D-line 3 things to be a great D-linemen .. Get off, great hands and motor. I will teach you the rest.
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CBull9563
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 When they get past the level of the QB/when the OL's shoulders turn horizontal--club by & blow stuff up
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Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: if you don't have contain, it's time to come under when you get to qb heel depth.
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A4) I like a drill where blocker walks backwards on line and defensive player follows. D must use a move when O flashes hands
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 Even Under when you are even with the QB go under the OT but don't spin!
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coachdober
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: if they get to QB depth, club T by and go under. Also if T opens door inside early, our guys can go under then get back out
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A kid will find success with ONE move, and think that it will always work. Keep fillin' that tool box!
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B_Dbl_P
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
Might be the greatest question ever!!!
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Coach_ZC
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: Rush to QB depth.
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5, we are gap sound defense, so have to have a call in for "green light" to take inside path.
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5 we cut under when we the QB had gone out of our vision. Either plant &rip back, flat spin.I want the to corral QB
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: In pass plays, our ends are force players. We want them to get QB level to ensure contain, then attack the sack.
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JasonConley20
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
@CoachMocahbee
@tsbulldawgs64
Good point about being forced to use outside hand. We were afraid we would give away contain.
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tsbulldawgs64
Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
If engaged with a blocker our outside hand. Defeat a blocker match his with yours. RH QB would mean left hand.
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CoachCamGreene
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5 Keys.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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coachharang74
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A4: we teach hands high keep em high, low keep em low. Use weight room terms because those click better aka bench
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5) VS run only when U get rub call can they go inside from a 5, first step puts you on path and is never wrong, trust the path
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CoachJPWilson
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5, watch film to see if OT is backing out or opens hips. Never use it on 1st rush, set it up.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: If OT's Shoulders are turned and/or he's off balance. I like to stunt my DE's inside a lot in Run & Pass situations.
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CoachSReid
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A4 I break it up into power/speed vs drop back, club rip club swim vs quick set and horizontal/ vertical shoulders moves
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CoachKizer
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5: If he doesn't stay square to LOS take path of least resistance. Most time telll them under if they are past QB level
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CoachATerrell
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5-depends on defensive call. There are times it is an absolute no-go, there are other calls when it is safe. Scheme dictates.
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A5. I also have them set up that with a hard outside bullrush. Follow that with net play hard up field jab step in.
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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CODY_GARDNER
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
All d line are spill, so inside moves are cool, plus we 2 gap a lot and LBs are use to open window fill
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
A3. Use for OLBs at least 2xweek Tell them our Job on blitz is to disrupt the pass. Several effected throws show up on film.
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5 generally, we don't go under OT unless we KNOW we can make the play. They know on field of it was a bad decision. I'm vocal
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rmacblue
- Moderator
Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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Coach_A_Nowell
Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
A5) VS Pass can only come under the OT if they are beyond the QB, athlete determines method in which that is done.
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CoachMHochard
Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
Yes! I always say,"I'm giving you tools. Put them in your toolbox"
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A kid will find success with ONE move, and think that it will always work. Keep fillin' that tool box!
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
I don't even know what you are talking about...
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Coach_V_
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5: syst I have been in it's usually up the the DC. All about contain. Once you get to QB depth stop/club or spin back inside
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B_Dbl_P
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
Your type of people
@DavidBodienIII
@JasonMac37
..... Sick individuals who rush the qb
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coachrugs
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5: We teach our kids to maintain their gap integ. that we haven't taught that, but it's a great idea, maybe w/ a gap exchange?
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jrmyhanson
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5 We teach ends to go up field, DT's are responsible for inside rush. Our lineman usually can't catch QB's if they guess wrong
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A3. Don't show the hand until the QB shows you the ball. Work both sides using both hands. Run by full speed.
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coachharang74
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5: we only go underneath if we have beat em with speed first. Get him to over set to protect edge then we are crossing face
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
A5 if you get to QB level collapse pocket
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FBCoachGerman
Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
A5 if they are pinching now or have a blitzer on contain we are under. Other than that contain is nonnegotiable.
Coach__French
Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
A5: if you don't have contain, it's time to come under when you get to qb heel depth.
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BenClubb32
Jan 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
A5: a lot of that can come from the sled work. Work a lot of standing it up, ripping under. Transitions well in a game
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rmacblue
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Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
Q5: When/How do you teach Ends to go up/under an OT? Vision keys? Drills?
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CodyCaseNoSpace
Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
@Coach_A_Nowell
@CoachMHochard
I have a 5'5" kid who wants to live in the swim!
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SteelCrusaderTS
Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
Great drill. It will Show up on film.
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CoachMocahbee
Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
A3 we have a mirror the hand drill where we are running towards qb we put our hand up as soon as he takes his hand off the ball
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B_Dbl_P
Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
Your type of people
@FBLBCoach
@DavidBodienIII
@JasonMac37
..... Sick individuals who rush the qb
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Coach_V_
Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
A5: cont. when we do run any inside games like an EX, teach sell up field then dip back in. Get OT to kick for speed rush
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
I really need to start attending some defensive clinics. The A5 responses are making my head hurt. What are you all saying?!?
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rmacblue
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Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
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CoachRmcD60
Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
Thanks
@rmacblue
great chat as always
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wingtcoachdon
Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
You are truly a teacher, Ben. Thank you for rephrasing that and helping me understand.
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CoachDuda
Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
A5: "TORCH". DE takes 2 hard steps up field & Reads OT. Reach=Fight Outside; Anything else = 1st Gap Inside. 3Tech = Contain
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