#TeachWriting Archive

TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #TeachWriting, our bi-weekly (usually) chat about writing instruction - guest mod tonight is @Jeremybballer - take it away!

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:01 PM EDT

Evening everyone! Take a moment to introduce yourself, what you teach, where you are from and your favorite part of speech #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Ben from the Chicago area, teach 7th grade science/social studies, originally from Cleveland, OH. Definitely love adjectives. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Jeremy from MI, 8th grade science/English, author, co-director for CRWP. Love adjectives. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Rob from Dallas. 8th grade English T and I'm partial to the preposition as I'm bothered when it is used to end a sentence! #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

I'm tempted to say verbs - those are supposed to be more important, right? But adjectives are like candy. Don't need them, but #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Hello all. Troy Hicks from Central Mich Univ. Teacher educator and director of @chippewariverwp Will chime in as I can to #teachwriting

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT

Jack from CA. MS ELA/SS. Grammar has always been tough, I look forward to learning a few good things tonight. #Teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Welcome! #teachwriting

In reply to @mrnewell83

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Hey, Troy! Great to see you here! #teachwriting

In reply to @hickstro, @chippewariverwp

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Welcome, Rob, glad you could join us this evening! #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Please welcome my co-author @hickstro. Greatest writing mentor there is. #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT

And a pretty awesome keynote speaker, IMO. . . #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Welcome Jack. Hope we can help. #teachwriting

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skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT

How's it going, Ben? Wake up the Cubs! #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT

No worries. They'll figure it out. #TeachWriting

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT

Hi all, Scott from MD. I'm a 6-12 ELA Instructional Specialist. Favorite is definitely the interjection. Sike! First chat with #teachwriting

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Still remember argument w/ soph yr Tr about dangling participles. Scarred for life #Teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Bulls ahead tonight again. #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT

Welcome! #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT

I'd love to see that continue - but I'm a Cavs fan. . . #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT

1st question coming up in a few minutes. Welcome everyone. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT

NBA/NHL/MLB would be better if like European soccer w/ promotion & relegation! Too many games! #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Agree - love that the standings have teeth. My Browns would have been relegated a long time ago. . . #teachwriting

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:07 PM EDT

"That is the sort of pedantry up with which i will not put" or something like that, maybe by Churchill, it's vague... 😀 #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:07 PM EDT

Everyone ready for a grammar explosion? Here...we...go! #TeachWriting

TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Check out the new book that our moderator has co-written with @hickstro - about grammar! https://t.co/2Iu14YOvUM #TeachWriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Thanks Ben, glad to be here! #teachwriting

In reply to @bkuhl2you

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Soccer is still my fav. FIFA is corrupt but I love it so! #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Q1: What issues do Ts face today with teaching grammar? #teachwriting

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Kay, K-12 literacy coach from Georgia, joining tonight's chat on grammar #TeachWriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Welcome Kay. Glad you could make it. #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT

Welcome, Kay! #teachwriting

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bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1 - Two things, I think. First, kids think grammar doesn't matter b/c of "spellcheck." Or the fact that others echo mistake #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT

A1: it's boring to Ss, disregarded by society, and emojis are cooler to many #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT

That is one of the biggest responses I get from my middle school Ss. ITS BORING. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 - And two, teachers seem to have retreated on grammar. Or it's such a huge task with almost no support or incentive. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1b: not many Ts get jazzed a/b teaching grammar. Though, with creativity & imagination, it can be done #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT

I feel that Ts don't have the confidence to teach it. I may be wrong. #teachwriting

In reply to @bkuhl2you

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT

A1 - It's like, teachers and admins pound hard on PARCC testing content. If it ain't tested, we often don't teach it. #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1 General lack of interest, both with the content and the manner in which it is usually taught. We need to supply a "why" #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT

Yes, but it is a language with which we can do so much! #teachwriting

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KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A2 not teaching it in isolation but knowing enough about author's craft to teach it as part of reading & writing #TeachWriting

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT

A1: knowing that diagramming sentences does not make good writers; but struggle to engage Ss #Teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT

I know some teachers who shy away from it for that reason. But generally, it's about time, IMO. #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Hi Everyone! Running in late! Lisa, from RI! #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

A1b I often see, too, that teachers lack confidence in their knowledge of grammar. Know what you don't know, and then learn it #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Yes, it shouldn't be taught just in isolation. #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Grammar is a must in all foreign language classes, but it is a dinosaur in English class #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Students get blamed for having "bad grammar," when in fact they are code-switching across media/genre. #teachwriting

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Where's @writeguyjeff tonight? He's the grammar king 👑 #Teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT

This definitely turns Ss off. #TeachWriting

In reply to @mrnewell83

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Tru dat. Learned about the subjunctive in French class before I learned anything about it in English. #teachwriting

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skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT

And....I'm fired up, when one speaks well, it's as if the speaker is perceived as arrogant! #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT

A1 Not teaching in the context of the writing is a major issue. Grammar in isolation isn't transferable #teachWriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT

That is too bad. #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds, @bkuhl2you

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT

A1b: I also teach many ELs so that adds to the struggle. Also fight what they hear at home #Teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Love that guy - great ideas about incorporating grammar into writing workshop. #teachwriting

In reply to @mrnewell83, @writeguyjeff

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT

No and experts like Constance Weaver and @writeguyjeff would agree. #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @writeguyjeff

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT

That's the worst part. We need to encourage Ts to admit when they don't know something and then learn something new. It's okay #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds, @Jeremybballer, @bkuhl2you

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Heard a great talk by @MaryEhrenworth at TCRWP about code switching with grammar. Fascinating stuff! #teachWriting

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lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Also, we miss TONS of transferable writing connections & strategies only teaching to the test.Too formulaic..not real writing. #TeachWriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Hard to see the difference without careful reading and repeated examples - not common on grammar worksheets. #teachwriting

In reply to @hickstro

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Going to throw out Q2 here in one minute because I think it relates to our 1st question too. #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Indeed. Wwe've known this for many decades now, yet we still persist in believing that there is one "right" way to speak/write #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds, @MaryEhrenworth

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT

@hickstro and I discuss code switching in our book and @teachKHT has some great articles on it as well. #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds, @hickstro, @MaryEhrenworth, @hickstro, @teachKHT

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Awesome to have @hickstro in the #teachwriting house tonight!

In reply to @hickstro, @KayBReynolds, @MaryEhrenworth, @hickstro

GOgreenGOwrite Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Ooh, #teachWriting chat happening now. Check it out.

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Glad to have @Jeremybballer here! #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Agreed! Don't fake your way through it. #teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @KayBReynolds, @bkuhl2you

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Q2: What reasons do you think Ss struggle with grammar concepts? #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT

So true. We need to have a growth mindset not only for students, but staff as well #teachwriting

In reply to @KayBReynolds, @Jeremybballer, @bkuhl2you

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT

Too much of this w/ my 11th graders. Can't capitalize to save their lives. Why don't they use @Grammarly #teachwriting

In reply to @hickstro, @Grammarly

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

AND Dr. Scott Petri tonight?! @scottmpetri Love it! #teachwriting

In reply to @scottmpetri, @hickstro, @Grammarly, @scottmpetri

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

There are other tools out there besides Grammarly. #teachwriting

In reply to @scottmpetri, @hickstro, @Grammarly

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2 - They're hard. Too many words, too many exceptions, too many ways to say the same thing . . . differently. . . #teachwriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Joining late. Renee, community college English teacher, Mississippi Delta. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: many are receiving it in isolation to memorize & regurgitate on a test instead of using context & application in writing #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Welcome, Renee! #teachwriting

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hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: Most of the struggle is because they learn isolated facts about grammar, yet never explore the beauty of language. #teachwriting

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SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: Ss who struggle with grammatical concepts often see little meaning or application related to their study of them (1/2) #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Thanks for joining us Renee. #teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Yes, but it is an easy Chrome extension that does all the work for you. #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @hickstro, @Grammarly

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT

Glad you could join us Sean. Dr. Ruday in the HOUSE. #teachwriting

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skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT

We also tend to predominantly focus on grammar via the written word and ignore the oral component #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2 - And it's not necessarily useful. Or, Ss don't see it that way. They think they should write as they talk . . . #teachwriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2: Many of my students confused about basic grammar concepts, even those they have heard of before. lack terms & confidence #TeachWriting

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

A2: Ss need to see grammatical concepts as tools for effective writing that published authors use to enhance their works (2/2) #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Which in some instances is fine. #teachwriting

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Q2 Because English is the worst? So many exceptions and illogical constructions. ELLs struggle with syntax, possessives, etc #teachwriting

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2 Ts and Ss don't get the power of author's choice w/ grammar & mechanics & the impact small choices make #TeachWriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2 There is a disconnect between grammar & the writing.We spend our time nudging Ss to write then come the rules! Turns Ss off #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2 - I also have a large percentage of students who learned Spanish (or Polish) first, and still speak it at home or w/friends #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Absolutely! #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: many are receiving it in isolation to memorize & regurgitate on a test instead of using context & application in writing #teachwriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

This is true, and not acknowledged enough. #TeachWriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Q2 Because English is the worst? So many exceptions and illogical constructions. ELLs struggle with syntax, possessives, etc #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

Yes and #NCTE and their position discusses how we need to discuss grammar and talk about it, not just do it. #teachwriting

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skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

If real world ignores many rules of grammar, how much should we expect our Ss to retain? #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2b Also we often teach them using ineffective methods. Eventually they don't understand why they don't understand and give up #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Happy Anniversary! #teachwriting

In reply to @scottmpetri, @hickstro, @Grammarly

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Yes, and the English language doesn't follow its own rules. #teachwriting

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

"If I retweet it, you should read it" Love that! #teachwriting

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TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

That should be a good thing for their language development, isn't it? #TeachWriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Agreed. We need to help Ss realize the importance. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

DOL is a good example. Not the easiest way to learn. Need positive examples, models of the "good." #teachwriting

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skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:24 PM EDT

Blogs are published and wildly popular, yet many I read are not grammatically sound. And I'm okay with that. Now what? #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Need to have application too. #teachwriting.

In reply to @bkuhl2you, @Lyricalswordz

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Sure - not saying they shouldn't continue to speak their native language, but when rules are so different from English . . . #TeachWriting

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TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Lot of debate over most effective, and culturally appropriate methods for this. #TeachWriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT

A2b Also we often teach them using ineffective methods. Eventually they don't understand why they don't understand and give up #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT

DOL? With you on the rest! Using mentor sentences really helps to teach challenging and creative constructions #teachwriting

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lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT

If students don't learn to apply it then what are we actually teaching? #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT

That's how we learn to write, am I correct? #teachwriting

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TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT

Ah, yes. and English is notoriously unruly compared to other languages. #TeachWriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT

Sure - not saying they shouldn't continue to speak their native language, but when rules are so different from English . . . #TeachWriting
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lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT

@skeeTX How's TX? #teachwriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Question 3 coming right up! #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Great Q. If we teach something that is largely ignored, should we force it on Ss/to what degree? #teachwriting

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Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT

True, but no debate (IMHO) over drill and kill and grammar worksheets! Tried and true methods that fail students #teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:27 PM EDT

This is ultimately the struggle. #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196

katiablaskovich Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Q2. #teachwriting Ss see grammar as set of rules. In composition, grammar is more like rhythm in music. Relies on innovation w/in patterns

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scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A2 Watch my 12 yr old daughter struggle w/ grammar b/c she reads too much fanfiction and not enough lit. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

And this is the way we should teach it. #teachwriting

In reply to @katiablaskovich

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Warming up! Rained a ton yesterday but I can see the finish line approaching. And RI? #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @bkuhl2you

askaouris Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

A2: Too much emphasis on terms -isolated practice activities- ¬ enough on sentence patterns leaves grammar disconnected. #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Is there a better way? https://t.co/SJZqlWVnP7 #TeachWriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

That's the challenge. We impose rules on students we don't follow ourselves. Is this the best approach? #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Q3: To what extent should tech be blamed for grammar issues our Ss demonstrate? #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Yes. I feel like I learned grammar from reading AND writing, often on my own, and trying to sound like a "real writer." #TeachWriting

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Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Great Question! Something to definitely think about. #teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @skeeTX

pedagogilist Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Yessss! Language can be beautiful! Children can be taught to write beautifully! #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:20 PM EDT

A2: Most of the struggle is because they learn isolated facts about grammar, yet never explore the beauty of language. #teachwriting
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lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT

A3 We need to embrace the digital natives that are in our classrooms. Let's stop blaming tech and start working with it! #Teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:30 PM EDT

Yes! We need to give students low-stakes writing so they can learn to write through writing, rather than write for a grade #teachwriting

In reply to @bkuhl2you, @Jeremybballer

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3: tech provides a shortcut but that seems to be human nature. Quick fix, be done, move on. Abbreviations & emojis #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Thank you! This is the same message @hickstro and I try to relay in our forthcoming book. #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @hickstro

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3: I don't blame tech. It provides Ss with authentic audiences for their writing and provides an example of code switching #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Or write to a test! Or to a formula...like a factory...student in...student out...all the same #teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @bkuhl2you, @Jeremybballer

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

A3 - Lots of negative models out there. Kids are writing more than ever thanks to tech, and lots is unfiltered, unedited. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

But real writer use many different conventions so is proper grammar a necessity? #teachwriting

In reply to @bkuhl2you, @Jeremybballer, @Lyricalswordz

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Great point @bkuhl2you Many students do not read enough outside of class to appreciate inspirational prose #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Yes. I feel like I learned grammar from reading AND writing, often on my own, and trying to sound like a "real writer." #TeachWriting
In reply to @Jeremybballer, @Lyricalswordz

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Like this analogy! #teachwriting

katiablaskovich Apr 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Q2. #teachwriting Ss see grammar as set of rules. In composition, grammar is more like rhythm in music. Relies on innovation w/in patterns
In reply to @Jeremybballer

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3: I don't blame tech per se but propagation of bad writing is allowed by tech. Ss understand diff Btwn txt and essay I think #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Agreed! The authentic spaces are crucial places for our Ss to learn. #teachwriting

In reply to @SeanRuday

askaouris Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3: Not sure blame is right. Tech didn't cause this. Yrs of not exploring the conflict bw the codes students use is prob. #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

I would say that students do not write enough in school either. #Teachwriting

In reply to @scottmpetri, @bkuhl2you

spiraledu Apr 18 @ 9:32 PM EDT

A3. My S are aware of the squiggle when typing, so I think tech helps them know something is wrong but not how to correct it #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @bkuhl2you

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

This reminds me of our 5 paragraph essay chat. Aside from academia, where is the essay required? Grammar focus in schools only #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Great response. I appreciate your thoughts here. #teachwriting

In reply to @askaouris

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3 - It's a good and bad thing. Bad when kids can't tune in to SWE. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Isn't that what many Ts do in many subjects??? Sad but true I think #Teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @Lyricalswordz, @bkuhl2you, @Jeremybballer

pedagogilist Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

This gets at worship of the (academic) written word as the pinnacle of intellect. IF we allow for dif conventions who loses? #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT

But real writer use many different conventions so is proper grammar a necessity? #teachwriting
In reply to @bkuhl2you, @Jeremybballer, @Lyricalswordz

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

@mslizkrause This looks like an excellent text to explore from @Jeremybballer & @hickstro, along with the #TeachWriting thread.

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT

Join me in less then 30 min to discuss grammar instruction in a digital age on #teachwriting. Can't wait to share snip-its from our book.

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3: Students have a keen sense of how to use language AND tech to convey messages. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not! #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

I think it's a social or class marker these days. Grammar = education. Back to the "snob" thing you mentioned. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A3. Tech has been a convenient scapegoat for frustrated ELA teachers to blame. These problems and issues predate smartphones #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Students are global citizens now. They need authentic audience in digital platforms. #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A4 I don't blame tech at all. My generation didn't grow up with tech and we sucked at grammar too. Focus on how tech helps! #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Thank you sir! It is due out May 23rd. Can't wait to share it with the world. #teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @mslizkrause, @hickstro

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

A3: Look at hashtags trending on Twitter at any given moment. How many are unique combinations of language enabled by tech? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Students need to collaborate and write across genres, content areas, and tasks! Writing isn't just for English class! #TeachWriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3; Anybody familiar w/Andrea Lunsford's research on effects of tech on student fluency and writing quality? #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Yes, this is where our focus should be. We need to use tech to our advantage as teachers. #teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

I would LOVE to review this book! #Teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @mslizkrause, @Jeremybballer, @hickstro

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

A3 - Language has always been about change. Tech is increasing the rate of change and the multiplicity of it. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Yes, so what does that mean for grammar as described by our old grammar textbooks? #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Please share out. It would be great! #teachwriting.

In reply to @TeachMoore

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Nor do other Ts look at grammar necessarily. #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3 - I think we might need to clarify what "grammar" is - comma rules (which are unclear and inconsistent), or clarity? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Agreed! The students we are teaching DID grow up with tech. Our schools and our teaching need to reflect this! #Teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

Would you like us to see if I can get you an advanced copy? #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @mslizkrause, @hickstro

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Me too! Looking forward to reading it! #TeachWriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @mslizkrause, @Jeremybballer, @hickstro

askaouris Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Old grammar books are obsolete. New methods needed. Focused on patterns, models, real writing. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Still a place for "old school" grammar. Knowing the difference b/w a subject and object is still imp. How we teach it matters. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

. . . and perhaps we have to know more conventions these days. Or making meaning can be difficult. #teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

YES!!!!!!!!!! #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @mslizkrause, @hickstro

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT

A3 My responsibility if I don't cluster rdg , writing, & lang. skills in a way to highlight the impact grammar has on text. #TeachWriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT

I see that as part of my job; to expose them to texts they may not find on their own. #teachwriting

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great point @bkuhl2you Many students do not read enough outside of class to appreciate inspirational prose #teachwriting
- bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
  
  Yes. I feel like I learned grammar from reading AND writing, often on my own, and trying to sound like a "real writer." #TeachWriting
  In reply to @Jeremybballer, @Lyricalswordz

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Sure but not if it is just b/c we are testing what it is. #Teachwriting

In reply to @hickstro, @lisahughes196

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Question 4 coming at yeah! Get ready. Loving this conversations so far. #teachwriting

katiablaskovich Apr 18 @ 9:38 PM EDT

Online just provides more genres for Ss to adapt to.If they see grammar as contextual discipline, can see/imitate new patterns #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT

Fun grammar apps! https://t.co/znbifFw4P9 #TeachWriting

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT

I tell my Ss that some grammatical concepts are used for clarity, while others can add important details #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:36 PM EDT

A3 - I think we might need to clarify what "grammar" is - comma rules (which are unclear and inconsistent), or clarity? #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A3 - Perhaps grammar is being inflected by locality, the way speech is, like a kind of "accent"? Discourse communities? #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Q4a: What can we do specifically do to help Ss understand the difference between formal & informal writing? #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT

I wish more Ts accepted this fact and encouraged their Ss to write, write, write, (right?!) in their content areas. #TeachWriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Students need to collaborate and write across genres, content areas, and tasks! Writing isn't just for English class! #TeachWriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Yes they do! #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:33 PM EDT

A3: Students have a keen sense of how to use language AND tech to convey messages. Sometimes subtle, sometimes not! #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Right. Not just for testing. For thinking about agency/action in a sent. Who does what? To whom? Grammar = rhetorical choices. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Not just "these days." Standard English has been a social marker for some time. #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:34 PM EDT

I think it's a social or class marker these days. Grammar = education. Back to the "snob" thing you mentioned. #teachwriting
In reply to @skeeTX

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT

May 23. Can probably get it for written reviews only. Will check. #teachwriting

In reply to @TheJulieSouth, @lisahughes196, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @mslizkrause, @hickstro

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I would love for my Ss to know/use whom but society, in general, has no clue about the usage. Sad. #Teachwriting

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bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A4a: I always introduce formal/informal writing with lessons/review on audience, colloquialism, and vernacular. #TeachWriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:41 PM EDT

To me, this is the dif b/n teaching about sub/obj or active/passive construction and, instead, teaching critical literacy. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

In an online world, where other social markers are not as visible, it takes on even more weight, IMO. #teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

#teachwriting

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

Yep. 1 of my 11th gr Ss loved this by @Nina_Willner & got her older sis to read it https://t.co/q5d6yxfVdk #teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore, @Nina_Willner

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4a I think this comes down to audience. If we spend time examining our audience, we are led toward a certain type of language #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4: I think we need to consider that distinction first, then address the grammar. Ss need to write and want to write more #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:42 PM EDT

A4a - Personal examples. A speech at a funeral or a wedding, a joke with friends, talking to your kids, etc. . . #teachwriting

ball_jacquelyn Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Haven't tweeted in ages - I will mess this up #oldie #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

For instance: "According to So & So from the government, the village was attacked." Who is the actor in this sent? It's hidden #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4b: once they have the desire, not b/c T says so, we can polish and focus on the grammar #teachwriting

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A3 my responsibility if I only talk about grammar in punitive terms associated w/grading writing or on standardized tests #TeachWriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4 The use of strong mentor text is a viable way to teach the nuances between formal and informal writing #teachWriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Not necessarily totally obsolete in the hands of a highly accomplished teacher; just have to know how to use it sparingly. #teachwriting

askaouris Apr 18 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Old grammar books are obsolete. New methods needed. Focused on patterns, models, real writing. #teachwriting
In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:43 PM EDT

A4a I talk about audience, purpose, and language expectation. Also, look at linguistic varieties as tools for characterization #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4a - Having to give someone really bad news. Something serious. How would you want to say it? #teachwriting

askaouris Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4: Opportunities to write in many forms, open conversations about audience and voice. And repeat. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Here is a social media template that I use with my Ss to help Differentiate formal & informal writing https://t.co/MiV6gjO9Ow #teachwriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Hmmm, this is worth consideration. #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:39 PM EDT

A3 - Perhaps grammar is being inflected by locality, the way speech is, like a kind of "accent"? Discourse communities? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Teaching grammar through games! https://t.co/eSDM6869Kz #TeachWriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:44 PM EDT

A4a - Writing - or saying - an apology to someone you care about. How should you sound? What should you say? #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A4: the social media template is discussed in our book, but I can explain more later if you are interested. #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Or "According to So&So, 'We attacked the village.'" Or "The village was attacked by us." Words and the position of them matter #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

A4: I use my own published writing as models. Have examples of both kinds, & talk about audiences. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Q4a: What can we do specifically do to help Ss understand the difference between formal & informal writing? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

You should get in your cah and come visit Rhode Island for some chowda @bkuhl2you #Teachwriting

In reply to @TeachMoore, @bkuhl2you

complikatyed Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

“@hickstro: Students get blamed for having 'bad grammar,'when in fact they're code-switching across media/genre. #teachwriting” YES, THIS!

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bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

And/or how to incorporate the skills/rules into a text or content or to address a common issue amongst S writing. #TeachWriting

In reply to @TeachMoore

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

But Ss understand the general idea and do not want to dissect the grammar. #teachwriting

In reply to @hickstro, @lisahughes196

pedagogilist Apr 18 @ 9:45 PM EDT

I obsess abt giving fdbk. I dnt give my Ss any assn I can't give fdbk on & I can't assign too much writing or else whts the pt #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I wish more Ts accepted this fact and encouraged their Ss to write, write, write, (right?!) in their content areas. #TeachWriting
- lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:35 PM EDT
  
  Students need to collaborate and write across genres, content areas, and tasks! Writing isn't just for English class! #TeachWriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Hope that makes some amount of sense... in Twitter-sized bites. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Specific, positive feedback is one of the most important factors in growing the writer! #teachwriting

In reply to @pedagogilist

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT

It happens. Sometimes feedback can be just a conversation. #teachwriting

In reply to @pedagogilist

katiablaskovich Apr 18 @ 9:46 PM EDT

Q4. Mentor text analysis. Notice at text, sentence & word level how outstanding writing (formal/informal) conforms/ innovates #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT

I like the scene from the play WIT, where she's dissecting John Donne's comma usage. . . #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @hickstro, @lisahughes196

pedagogilist Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT

I want my kids (3rd graders) to write but I want to guide their writing. Writing just for writing's sake dsnt really happen #teachwriting

scottmpetri Apr 18 @ 9:47 PM EDT

A4a Immediate direct instruction w/ examples of how you can fix weak writing. https://t.co/F9bNvVj6Ku #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Question 5 is hot and ready. It's coming at ya fast. #teachwriting

KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT

A4 it's about teaching code switching like was posted earlier #TeachWriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT

I need to give more feedback rather than pts. Bracing for the culture change. Any advice. #TeachWriting

In reply to @pedagogilist

ball_jacquelyn Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Ordered your book after MACUL - cam"t air #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:48 PM EDT

Analysis & close reading of the mentor text! What is that writer doing? How do they do it? Does the writing impact audience #teachWriting

In reply to @katiablaskovich

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

How do you give structured and important feedback without overwhelming Ss and yourself? #TeachWriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Thank you for the support. We appreciate it! #teachwriting

In reply to @ball_jacquelyn

complikatyed Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Coming in late on this #TeachWriting convo, but loving what you've said thusfar!

pedagogilist Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Conversing is a little out there w/ my Ss&their parents who want to SEE what I've been saying to get Ss to be better writers #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Have you used the template at all or @padlet? #TeachWriting

In reply to @ball_jacquelyn, @padlet

mrnewell83 Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Define "formal" and "informal" writing, plz #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:49 PM EDT

Q5: What are some strategies that you use in your classroom where Ss better understand grammar skills? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT

I LOVE Padlet! Such a great tool for collaboration and teaching! #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @ball_jacquelyn, @padlet

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT

I compare grammar instruction to Mr. Keating convincing the boys about poetry in Dead Poets. Need Ss to buy in and then go #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Read "Teaching Adolescent Writers" by @KellyGToGo, then put his philosophy in your classroom! It will change your life! #teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @pedagogilist, @KellyGToGo

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Have you tried giving them Audio feedback? #teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @lisahughes196, @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Great question - I tend to use analogies. "Fancy writing, like getting dressed up for a special dinner," etc. #teachwriting

In reply to @mrnewell83

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:51 PM EDT

One of my favorite movies of all-time! #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5: Have Ss analyze how and why an author uses certain grammatical concepts. Get them thinking about impact of those choices #TeachWriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5: I often stop and ask why a sentence is written in such a way or why did I use a particular pronoun/gerund. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Formal is writing assignments, emails to teachers, letters, notes to a boss. Informal is texting a friend, Facebook, Twitter. #teachwriting

In reply to @mrnewell83

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

I use Audacity. Free download, easy to use. Converst to MP3. Kids can listen to your feedback as many times as needed! #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @lisahughes196, @pedagogilist

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

Of course! It's how boys should learn to woo women!!! #teachwriting

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KayBReynolds Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5 lots of imitating. Workshop where writing happens daily whether graded or not & revision is common. Not wed to 1st drafts #TeachWriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5 - Model and imitate. Find a great sentence - especially something funny - with a mid-level grammatical concept, and try it #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

There are some tools you might be able to try using like this Online Sentence Diagrammer: https://t.co/77wxCUHgZX #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

SeanRuday Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

A5 (cont.) For example, "Why does this author use this relative clause? What information is added?" #TeachWriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

A5 Conferring with individual writers and whole class mini-lessons are effective tools! #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

I have not attempted audio feedback, but am willing to try it! #TeachWriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @lisahughes196, @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Wait, there's an online sentence diagrammer....who knew? #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:52 PM EDT

There are some tools you might be able to try using like this Online Sentence Diagrammer: https://t.co/77wxCUHgZX #teachwriting
In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Narrow your focus. Research says less is more. Give specific, actionable feedback. Ss must interact with your feedback! #teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @lisahughes196, @pedagogilist

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Also, you could use easy concept-mapping tools like @poppletny to have students put words in and then do sent combining. #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196, @poppletny

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

But do Ts always follow same rules we ask our writers to follow. I don't. #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer, @mrnewell83

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Great tool. I use this as well. #teachwriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @lisahughes196, @pedagogilist

katiablaskovich Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Within a novel, have mix of formal, informal language for character/ narration. Ways sentences collapse articles/conjunction #teachwriting

In reply to @Jeremybballer

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT

My online composition students love this; and my face-to-face (blended) classes do too. #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:53 PM EDT

I have not attempted audio feedback, but am willing to try it! #TeachWriting
In reply to @Jeremybballer, @lisahughes196, @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT

I've also used @padlet for this type of exercise: https://t.co/e7LAqAQFyI #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196, @padlet

EduGladiators Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT

🔥#EduGladiators is BACK this SATURDAY! Is failure a choice? Don't miss this convo! #txlchat #TWOTCW #teachwriting #teachlikefinland #tmchat

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Thanks! I understand the feedback needs to be relevant and useful, too, otherwise what's the point? #TeachWriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @lisahughes196, @pedagogilist

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Though boring, I still have hard copy Warriners text book at the ready! #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

I have Ss create videos using Vocabulary words in real world settings. Helps bring authenticity. #teachwriting

bkuhl2you Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5 - And catch and praise. Pull a kid's sentence, share with the class, and have them find their own examples. #teachwriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

A5: Years ago there was a grammar curriculum developed by someone with ATEG/NCTE...it was called KISS. Am I dating myself?#teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Classkick or any collaborative whiteboard tool could work for grammar instruction, esp diagramming #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Here are the instructions for the @padlet activity with sentence combining #teachwriting

In reply to @skeeTX, @lisahughes196, @padlet

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT

Q6: What are some strategies that you use where you are using TECH to help Ss better understand grammar skills? #teachwriting

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT

I like to talk with each student about a positive then one thing to work on...typically I catch them in a conference #teachwriting

In reply to @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:56 PM EDT

I've made short videos w/ Adobe Spark for grammar lessons #teachwriting

hickstro Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Yes! Have kids record screencasts as they revise. Invite them to talk about their moves as writers. #teachwriting

skeeTX Apr 18 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Classkick or any collaborative whiteboard tool could work for grammar instruction, esp diagramming #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Very happy I stumbled into the #TeachWriting chat tonight! Resources, community, and insight have been refreshing and inspiring!

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

One reference to Andrea Lunsford's work: https://t.co/35z4AKe9d1 #teachwriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

I have some specific articles on my work computer. Will look for them tomorrow. But Kelly Gallagher is a great place to start #teachwriting

In reply to @pedagogilist, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @lisahughes196

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

Peer feedback is a powerful tool when cultivated and authentic in writing workshop...must build a community of trust #teachwriting

In reply to @pedagogilist

complikatyed Apr 18 @ 9:57 PM EDT

A5 - I used Google forms for practice, w. branching logic to give students feedback on their (multiple choice style) answers. #teachwriting

TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Are you interested in leading a #TeachWriting chat? We could use some guest mods for our May chats - message @lisahughes196 or @bkuhl2you!

TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Thanks so much for your time tonight - we appreciate your contributions and your attention! #TeachWriting

TeachMoore Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT

A5: Anybody used the GrammarFlip website? Some of my older, non-trad students really like it for review. #teachwriting

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Please join us for the ATEG conference at CMU in MI this August. Join the grammar nerds https://t.co/dvlQHr5Qf9 #teachwriting

bnjmn_k_wdcck Apr 18 @ 9:58 PM EDT

@KellyGToGo is the man! Have already adopted a lot of his beliefs into my classroom. Always open to more, so please share. #TeachWriting

In reply to @Lyricalswordz, @pedagogilist, @lisahughes196, @KellyGToGo

complikatyed Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

I'm feeling very much the same. #teachwriting is rocking my night!

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TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

You can read more about his books on Amazon or from the publisher here - https://t.co/TZoImh9zT4 #TeachWriting

TeachWriting2 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thank you so much, @Jeremybballer - great job leading this conversation tonight! Make sure you check out his new book! #TeachWriting

Lyricalswordz Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

This is so important. We MUST set aside time to engage in conversations about writing with our students #teachwriting

In reply to @lisahughes196, @bnjmn_k_wdcck, @pedagogilist

Jeremybballer Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

Thanks #teachwriting and all of the participants. It was an honor to moderate. I appreciate my co-author joining in. May 23 is the date.

lisahughes196 - Moderator Apr 18 @ 9:59 PM EDT

AWESOME job tonight @Jeremybballer AND can not wait for the book guys! @hickstro GREAT stuff! #TeachWriting