#3rdchat Archive
Wednesday October 19, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
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! Tell us your name, location, and job. What was the high temperature in your area today?
https://t.co/TpyWWAAw0x
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Good evening
#3rdchat
friends. Thanks for joining us. We welcome
@MathCoachCorner
as our guest moderator.
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Donna from Katy, TX. I'm a K-5 math interventionist.Excited to be guest moderator for
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! Record highs today with temps in the 90s.
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi I am Terry, 3rd gr T in Fl. Our high was more than likely around 85. I hate to look anymore. Ready for some cool.
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SIOWehmeyer
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Tara m, Brenham,TX, Title 1 officer, 93 degrees!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@bmyerkkat
Brandy don't forget to use the hashtag
#3rdchat
so we see your comments!
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
@SIOWehmeyer
Welcome Tara, thanks for joining us!
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
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Hi Margie from PA K-12 Math Coach 85 degrees and humid in Philly
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@SIOWehmeyer
i feel your pain! Where is fall?
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Hey, Margie!! So glad you're here!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
Hi Margie, glad you joined us tonight.
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MrsBingenheimer
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ashley - Instructional Coach in WI, mid 50's today.... nice!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Katie from Chicago suburbs. I teach 3rd grade. High temp today was around 70! 👍
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@SIOWehmeyer
Ha ha
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi everyone at
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multitasking tonight, looking forward to the chat
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@MrsBingenheimer
Hi Ashley, thanks for joining us at
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Janie from NJ. K-3 math specialist. About 85 today.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@MrsBingenheimer
Oh. My. Gosh! I want your weather!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Hi Katie, glad you're here, thanks for joining us tonight.
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StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Academic Support Math teacher here to join the fun!
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
@MathCoachCorner
Hi I'm Sue up in Alaska. Excited to talk math! Need some help :)
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ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Evening, This is Juanita, 4th grade math teacher in College Park, GA.
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MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Jerrica, 4th grade, Citrus county,
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co-mod. High was around 88?
https://t.co/DObuyIEnGC
bmyerkkat
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
Brandy from CT. 3rd Grade
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
Glad you are here at
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
we all are! Watching baseball and debate + twitter chat!
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi. Jayne from Wisconsin.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@spiraledu
@FirstAtBat
I spent some time in Alaska a long while back. Beautiful!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@JaneTunnard
Glad you are here for
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tonight
wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Wendy, 5th grade math, West Texas, 85 degrees 🙁👎🏻
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi! Co-mod of
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excited for
@MathCoachCorner
to mod tonight-trying to watch the
#DEBATE
too! Was inside ALL day, but sure it was ☀️
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
I've been waiting all week! Excited about the topic!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@StacylSlater
Hi Stacy, thanks for joining
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@mleonard03
Yep, I'm streaming it. :)
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A1: Diane from Nebraska. I teach 3rd grade. It was 63 degrees today.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
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Hi! I'm Dawn. I teach science to K-5th grade in Indy.
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@spiraledu
Happy to see you here tonight
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
First question in a minute!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@ScurryNHurry
Thanks for joining in on
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tonight
BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Howdy
#3rdchat
from Barbara, school counselor for grades 3-5 in Friendswood, TX. Today we had upper 80s.
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1 Why is mathematical discourse--math talk--an important part of math instruction?
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https://t.co/vsoR2rhUXO
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@MrsAlligood13
Hi Jerrica, I think so.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@bmyerkkat
Hi Brandy, glad you are here at
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tonight
FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
That's a lot, sadly our Blue Jays lost,
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
Hi Jayne, thanks for joining us at
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
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Me too! My students are struggling since they only did half curriculum last year :(
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1 Math talk makes student thinking visible. Sometimes Ss can get correct answers, but not actually understand the concept.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@wkreeves
Hi Wendy, thanks for joining
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tonight
bmyerkkat
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
A1: it gives students an opportunity to share their thinking and hear others
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
A1: talking in math allows Ss to share their thinking process/strategies; they have deeper understanding&learn other ways to solve
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
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A1: Mathematical discourse levels the playing field Ss need to hear good math thinking & be able to express good math thinking
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Standards require that students justify their solutions and critique the reasoning of others
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@28dianeb
That sounds like awesome weather, I have family in Nebraska, my son, wife and 4 children.
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MrsBingenheimer
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Develop vocab, engagement, improve justification and ability to critique others respectfully!
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and FUN!
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
we must stay in it! Go cubbies!
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 A time for Ss to share their thinking, wondering, questions, understanding
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Discourse gives insight into Ss thinking, understandings and misconceptions.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@bickd
Hi Dawn, glad you're here
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@bmyerkkat
Very important. Gives students a voice.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@spiraledu
half the curriculum??
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
Hi there, so happy to see you pop in
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ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1- Math talks help Ss think mathematically.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Talking through any subject matter allows students to hear their thoughts, analyze if it make sense and find the misconceptions
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SIOWehmeyer
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: it's important bc if they can explain it, they get it! Also helps find the students misconceptions
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Learning is a social process. Ss need to be able to discuss their thinking with others.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@MrsBingenheimer
Yes, definitely adds a social element to learning math!
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Here is Q1
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https://t.co/Lv7ubzNbsi
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1 Why is mathematical discourse--math talk--an important part of math instruction?
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https://t.co/vsoR2rhUXO
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
yes! Talking through requires deeper understanding of concepts and strategies
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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A1: We want to promote the Standards of Mathematical Practice SMP 3 Construct viable arguments & critique the reasoning of others.
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: I believe it where we thinking takes place and understanding is addressed.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@bickd
They often catch their own mistakes when they explain their thinking.
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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Math talk turns math into an active process, it stresses problem solving rather than looking for one right answer done one way
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: helps Ss conceptualize concepts and build a deeper understanding of concepts and terms. Increases ability to explain & execute
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wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: students can verbalize a deeper understanding during math discussions than they can convey on a worksheet or test.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 Why is mathematical discourse--math talk--an important part of math instruction?
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https://t.co/AbyPbglDDz
TaffanieErwin
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
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. I think math discourse helps reluctant learners feel safe 2 express their thoughts. Allows kids to make their own connections.
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
critiquing is a higher order skill and really gets Ss thinking about math
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Yes that hearing others is SO important.
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https://t.co/9HLIEEf6nW
bmyerkkat
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
A1: it gives students an opportunity to share their thinking and hear others
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@wkreeves
#amen
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lmlucero1
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hi, Lisa, ESE support facilitation at an elementary school in central Florida.
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Yes, I was realizing that they didn't know how to regroup because teacher didn't make it that far
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
It definitely is!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
agreed! But discussion skills are a learned skill and need to be taught
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Many times students learn best hearing from another student.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Ah yes, building a safe place for all this discourse is huge.
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https://t.co/8drd3YXqqG
FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 A time for Ss to share their thinking, wondering, questions, understanding
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Oh yes! I couldn't agree more. Have you peeked at my questions? :)
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@spiraledu
this is my fav part; sharing multiple approaches
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Yes, many misconceptions discovered in the talk.
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https://t.co/pZbRZTb9PE
JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Discourse gives insight into Ss thinking, understandings and misconceptions.
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Unearth misconceptions. Understanding of concept vs. Process. Application of use of academic vocab.
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rebeccagwhite
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
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my students have such a difficult time articulating.
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@spiraledu
😨that's hard!
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MissStanley3rd
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Talking is learning!
@KaganOnline
structures promote on task conversation and engagement of all my students during math talk
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@lmlucero1
Hi Lisa, glad you're here
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MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1. Being able to explain their reasoning makes them better mathematicians in the long run
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@rebeccagwhite
Talking about math is not easy! It has to be modeled and practiced extensively.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
agreed- sometimes they "hear" their friend explain it more than they hear you!
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Also, I've learned a lot from hearing my students explain thingy differently
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@rebeccagwhite
it's definitely a process, and needs modeling all day long! :)
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
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A1: We need to provide plenty of time for kiddos to share their thinking. It is valuable whenever we are promoting metacognition
BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
@fromteach2teach
LOVE this:
https://t.co/2BSRfCtjWP
#listening
#communication
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Was a part of a Facebook post with this this week. The talk was in text, but it was good.
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https://t.co/E85qfY4fxm
BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: I showed this at a staff inservice Monday; it was so interesting to hear the Ts talk math as they all gave diff…
https://t.co/7rcagoKO0k
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Q2 "My Ss write in math journals. Why do they need to talk?" What would your response be?
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https://t.co/yxGKnFigPs
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
...no! But I've been focusing on building more math talk this year & have already grown a lot as we share
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Yes, I'm good at trouble shooting but need some tips on how to differentiate now that I've found them
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Communicating about math is hard for Ss. Oral communication bridges to written, not vice versa. Ss need both!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
I think students catch on pretty quickly when it is an expectation and there is scafolding
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@rebeccagwhite
it's a learned skill to be taught just as explicitly as the math concept itself. I find sentence stems &vocab helps
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@spiraledu
@fromteach2teach
We all need help in the differentiation area.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@SIOWehmeyer
#bingo
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mkwunderl
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: Math talk develops language and content. Students practice the process standards and utilize academic vocabulary terms.
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 Need to provide Ss with ways 2 speak 2each other ways 2 extend, disagree, also need 2 aid those who struggle to be part of convo
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bmyerkkat
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@rebeccagwhite
agreed students are reluctant to talk...a supportive environment is key
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Writing in journals lacks the social interaction of talking. There is a place for both oral and written communication.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
RT Q2
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https://t.co/lrVqqJt6E1
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Communicating about math is hard for Ss. Oral communication bridges to written, not vice versa. Ss need both!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
@MathCoachCorner
@YouTube
I'm going to watch later! Thanks for sharing!!
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
It starts in kindergarten and takes lots of modeling and practice.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
verbally expressing math problems in real words and visa versa helps students understand what is being asked.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
So glad you mentioned that it starts in Kinder!
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TaffanieErwin
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Writing takes more analysis & involves reflection. It allows kids to make sense of the connections they are making in math.
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
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https://t.co/Ruzuj5iG50
spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A blog I wrote on why Mistakes are OK in math
https://t.co/qOyRn0lcma
JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Journals don't support the social interactions of Math Talks. Journals are reflective, math talks are interactive.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 "My Ss write in math journals. Why do they need to talk?" What would your response be?
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https://t.co/9JtHgdMGLl
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
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A1: My fav Ss comment to another Ss "I didn't know you were doing all that in your brain. I just thought you were smarter than me."
FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 Need to take into account abilities of Ss, sometimes Ss have so much in their head, they can't get it all down,
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Don't forget to follow other participants and grow your PLN
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Q2 Here is the Q
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https://t.co/qiFo1ISi4l
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 "My Ss write in math journals. Why do they need to talk?" What would your response be?
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https://t.co/9JtHgdMGLl
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: to hear the voices, and ideas of others! To increase collaboration, build skills and develop math practices
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
Talking helps them organize their thinking so they are more ready to write
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q2: that's a meaningful activity, but adding discussion will allow Ss to see multiple approaches, other strategies, & collaborate
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mkwunderl
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Writing in math journals is great & can prepare Ss for oral discussion. Ss need to talk to make sure thinking/writing is clear.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
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verbal and written communication are connected but not the same. Ss need to do both to truly understand any subject area.
wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: especially in lower grades, I think Ss can convey ideas and thoughts more clearly orally than in written form.
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MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Part of it is LISTENING and SPEAKING. Other Ss don't hear the thinking can't dissect the thinking if it's just in their journal
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Students should be able to articulate in language orally their thinking. Written language is a different level.
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StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2 students need to feel safe expressing their ideas without judgment.
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
Yes! Great for all learners
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
Talking makes it social. When we use math in REal world, we usually collaborate
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@bickd
Yes, both forms of communication are so powerful
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@bickd
@spiraledu
of course! There's always ways to grow!
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MrsBingenheimer
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Feedback help our mindset grow Justifying to others is different than justifying to ourselves
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@bickd
@spiraledu
that's why we're all here!
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BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: We've been working on our listening skills in leadership class!
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https://t.co/HVn45B8HWY
MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Sometimes just hearing it out loud, Ss are able to find an error, fix their thinking that they wouldn't have done otherwise
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
Great point! Journals can inhibit Ss with weaker writing skills. Talks give Ss a voice to share ideas.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: Speaking it first can build their written thought as well. Active participation.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
agreed! The written component is valuable, but esp. for ELLs, talk is huge in gaining skills
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
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I think of a journal more as a record of how Ss thoughts change and evolve over time.
HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
It's nice to hear a student restate what another student explained.
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StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Being able to explain their thinking written and orally are both important in developing understanding
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Talking out loud allows the learning to be as a community learning, not just an individual learning. They learn from each other.
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2: How many (written) emails have you received with typos? Conversation enhances the writing (as does reading) and vice versa.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@bickd
That's interesting. Journals are great for showing growth.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 How do you create a classroom culture that allows Ss to feel comfortable talking about math?
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https://t.co/EZ6GOO35D9
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
We need to remember that Journals can be drawings or symbols, doesn't have to be words for ELL or younger students.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: Often our struggling readers/writers struggle to cognitively share their thinking.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 is on deck
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Building culture
https://t.co/nPRGTj0SN5
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q3 How do you create a classroom culture that allows Ss to feel comfortable talking about math?
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https://t.co/EZ6GOO35D9
mkwunderl
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
@MathCoachCorner
I so agree! W/ ELLs, we have to make sure language isn't getting in the way of content.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
yes, and usually writing is the last domain ELLs master, also monolinguals. Speaking can build that literacy skill
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3 You must create an atmosphere of respect for thinking and mistakes. Ss must feel safe to talk about their learning.
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BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: We've got a 3rd grade T who SINGS about math with her Ss. They are super comfortable when unified in song!
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
#3rdchat
A2. Mathematicians construct viable arguments & critique reasoning of others. To promote mathematical thinking, talking is a must
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
Ha! That's great.
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: I think it begins with relationships-then modeling, practicing, and allowing time for discussions each day!
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SIOWehmeyer
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3: starts day 1... everyone makes mistakes, we support and recognize it takes courage to share our thoughts
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A3:
#growthmindset
is the simple answer. Safe environment where mistakes are embraced.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
I work through math problems verbally in front of my Ss. They need to see that I make mistakes, have to read more than once
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Ts must model what math talk sounds like. It does not come naturally to Ss.
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BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
I love this. It's not what we grew up with; celebrating mistakes was unheard of back in the day.
#growthmindset
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MrsBingenheimer
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Model how mistakes are a part of learning and honor all strategies
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Start by sharing with a partner first.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Give time, support, feedback. Show and model the value of talk.
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ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 It has to be modeled. Ss can't be ridiculed for the wrong answer.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@DaultonAS
absolutely, and how many times is an email unclear and needs to be talked through?!
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mkwunderl
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: I help Ss realize that "explain" can be done different ways: aloud, w/ visuals, and/or in written form. All are acceptable.
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BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
They sang a perimeter song to me the other day and suddenly perimeter made sense!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
Still the norm in many classrooms, I'm afraid. So glad to see that it is changing though!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Create an environment rich in math vocabulary. Set high expectations for using precise vocabulary.
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MissStanley3rd
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: Teaching and modeling respectful responses for students to use with their peers. Cheers and compliments too!
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TaffanieErwin
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
I find if time given to "math talks" U almost don't "teach". U simply help kids solidify connections they already have.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@MissStanley3rd
These are life skills that just happen to benefit us in math instruction, right? Win win
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MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Lots of modeling, I proudly display when I make a mistake and then have the Ss talk me through it. Takes the pressure off them
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
RT Q3 How do you create a classroom culture that allows Ss to feel comfortable talking about math?
#3rdchat
https://t.co/kWLo3Ciinr
BarbaraGruener
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
I brought home a C on my report card in 6th-gr Science & was convinced I stink at Science. That lingers still ...
#3rdchat
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: building a strong, supportive, growth/goal oriented classroom, provide visual/language supports, celebrate all attempts
#3rdchat
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@MrsBingenheimer
Yes!! All strategies are valuable!! Even if it doesn't match the "formula" or algorithm.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
Absolutely!
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StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Use math vocabulary and encourage students to use it as well. Students need to feel safe to express their thoughts also.
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: Model your it in your Metacognition. "When I get to this step, I often want to make (this mistake)."
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
I LOVE to bring in songs since that's MY best way to learn/remember! :)
#3rdchat
JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: Develop respect for each other. Modeling, hand signals and Focus on the "how" (process) not on the "correct answer".
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
@DaultonAS
And re-read and broken down. Also, how many times do we miss info in the subject line
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critical reading
HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I think you have to value of mistakes. Let them know we all learn from mistakes and our brain grows each time we do.
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MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I started using the term "brave soul" for someone who shares a mistake with others. Not sure where I came up with it but it stuck!
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Need 2 build a class culture where all ideas r respected,Need 2 provide Ss material 2 b successful, vocab, sentence frames, etc.
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wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: model, model, and model some more how math discussions can look and work. And embed growth mindset into discussions.
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: Build up confidence at start of year so they are more willing to share. Then model, provide guidance, support, and feedback.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
Understanding and sharing brain research with students is extremely empowering
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
@MathCoachCorner
we live for those "lightbulb moments"!
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@bickd
@fromteach2teach
@DaultonAS
yes! We call it "unlocking the problem"
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Don't forget the praise!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@MissStanley3rd
we always clap after sharing our math thinking & find something to celebrate, even if it's small
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
@MathCoachCorner
Please allow me to apologize on behalf of all science teachers.so sorry about the pigeonhole
#3rdchat
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Absolutely!
#3rdchat
https://t.co/sqkcQX5bBr
28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Don't forget the praise!
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@mleonard03
@bickd
@fromteach2teach
@DaultonAS
Ooh, I like this!
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
@MissStanley3rd
I'd like to be in your class, please. :)
#3rdchat
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
#3rdchat
A3: Provide a climate where risk taking is the norm, where relationship is at center of learning. Ss feel safe,accepted & confident
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Q4 How do you encourage the use of precise mathematical vocabulary?
#3rdchat
https://t.co/Lk3P6BPEER
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
@MathCoachCorner
I hate when Ss say 'I'm bad @ math'- I tell them 'you just haven't found your way of solving yet'
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ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
A3 Set clear expectations and positive classroom community. All Ss feel that they have a contribution to make.
#3rdchat
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@FloradTeach
Sentence frames especially help ELL and younger reluctant writers get an idea of how to start
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@MissStanley3rd
Yes, we create anchor charts as we are learning. I try to keep them posted. Also self reflection stems
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3 Math vocabulary should be highly visible, but Ss also need to interact regularly with the word wall.
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https://t.co/GjYIv85tlX
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@bickd
@DaultonAS
literally all the time! 😂
#3rdchat
ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@DaultonAS
Reminds me of a reading think aloud.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A4: Model it, use it and celebrate when it is used. Scaffold and build it in our students.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@MissStanley3rd
#3rdchat
https://t.co/Ov8frGoxRA
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
and make sure Ss know it's ok &that we will all learn from it together; starts back with classroom community &safe space
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 Ts must set high expectations for themselves to use precise math vocabulary.
https://t.co/fIFQaYYV0l
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https://t.co/JZTmwSmIxb
HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Model it and expect it. That isn't a two in 25 it's 2 tens. You expected they will give it to you.
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
I use
@GetKahoot
to review terms: commutative, distributive, associative, factor, product and keep adding to it
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@spiraledu
@GetKahoot
Love Kahoot!
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Imperative to use the language, model, repeat when Ss use the language and don't lapse in using when doing shared math
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Great tool, if they aren't made with Ss and available to Ss then they aren't truly an anchor chart.
#3rdchat
https://t.co/iNDzQoXpEP
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@MissStanley3rd
Yes, we create anchor charts as we are learning. I try to keep them posted. Also self reflection stems
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wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: I use academic vocab as much as I can when talking with them and I praise Ss when they use it themselves! 🎉
#3rdchat
JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#3rdchat
Hi folks.
@sorry
2B late. Jena ball, CritterKin & NPHC creator who's amazed by people who teach math. I'll just listen.
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
@MissStanley3rd
we'd love to have you! I'm so proud of my Ss &their bravery to share this way. It's new to most
#3rdchat
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: through anchor charts, notebook entries, modeling, practicing, and encouraging "mathematician talk"
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Anchor charts, vocab walls & rigor & precision in oral and written responses.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@JenaiaMorane
@Sorry
Welcome!
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
RT Q4 How do you encourage the use of precise mathematical vocabulary?
#3rdchat
https://t.co/S4UJvInekR
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
I think a lot of math talk success is rooted in class community
#3rdchat
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Ask Ss How do mathematicians say...What do scientists call.. Teach vocab after concept so that they aren't just big words
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@bickd
Yes, I always call my students mathematicians!
#3rdchat
spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
@GetKahoot
#3rdchat
I do it in teams when they are first learning terms so there is discussion then compete individually
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@bickd
yes!!
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Sometimes you need a little bribery. ;) (piece of candy, etc.) Suddenly more kids start to use the correct vocab word!
#3rdchat
JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
@Sorry
#3rdchat
thanks Donna:-)
ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@spiraledu
@MathCoachCorner
@GetKahoot
Yes Kahoot is great. It encourages collaboration about concepts
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ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A1 Math talks encourage the why of the math not just the what.
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Use the proper terminology from little on. It's the commutative property not the turnaround facts or flip-flop facts.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Ss have discussion stems as a bookmark for current mathematical practice focus
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 Don't underestimate our Ss ability to use vocab, whether they're young, limited English, they can use correct terminology
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MrsBingenheimer
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: I <3 Desmos Polygraph
@Desmos
:)
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
agreed!!
#3rdchat
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#3rdchat
A3 Yes, let Ss know what happens in our brains when we make connections and this is continuos
https://t.co/H04x5S33mg
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
We also need to make vocab not about the spelling, etc, but about adding meaning to what Ss already know
#3rdchat
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
great idea!
#3rdchat
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@ScurryNHurry
@DaultonAS
yes, a think aloud is exactly the skill to model. Great idea to utilize other content area skills
#3rdchat
JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
#3rdchat
A4; Isn't this like correct words in writing? If Ss have an audience & community will want to communicate clearly.
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
@ScurryNHurry
@DaultonAS
A great many connections between literacy instruction and numeracy instruction
#3rdchat
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
great videos for Ss in
@ClassDojo
on
#growthmindset
and synapses during learning!
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rebeccagwhite
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: It's constant modeling, repeating and praising when Ss try and/or succeed
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Ts have to use it and expect use. No shortcut words.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q5-a Explain how you would solve 38 27 without a pencil and paper
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https://t.co/9z0fLGly0B
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
As in most things, expectations make a difference.
#3rdchat
https://t.co/yqOXfGIOfN
DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Ts have to use it and expect use. No shortcut words.
#3rdchat
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#3rdchat
A4: Love interactive word walls where Ss sort categorize, summarize and determine relevance using them
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q5-a Explain how you would solve 38 + 27 without a pencil and paper
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@HaeJayne
so true! They love learning big words too! I tell them to try to impress someone later that day sometimes :)
#3rdchat
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
RT Q5
@MathCoachCorner
is putting us to work
#3rdchat
https://t.co/iKAIWPBCUH
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Q5-a Explain how you would solve 38 27 without a pencil and paper
#3rdchat
https://t.co/9z0fLGly0B
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
@ScurryNHurry
@DaultonAS
learning doesn't need to happen in separate 'silos'
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
Hee hee :)
#3rdchat
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: with manipulatives or technology!!
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A5: I would start by talking about adding 3 tens and 2 tens, then 8 ones and 7 ones.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
RT Q5-a Explain how you would solve 38 27 without a pencil and paper
#3rdchat
https://t.co/NT1GrHUHBy
MrsGriffith3
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
#mathchat
#elemmathchat
#3rdchat
https://t.co/SkzIlV1EEP
MrsGriffith3
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
I'm looking for a great book on differentiated elementary math strategies. Any ideas?
#txeduchat
#esc11
#txed
#elementarymath
#soarpdchat
HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Compensate. Take two from the 27 to make the 38 a 40.. Now your problem is 40+25.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I would add 30 +20 = 50 and add 8+7 = 15 then add 50 + 15 = 65
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ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 I encourage it by asking "what number you talking about? the factor? the product? Be specific"
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: 30 +50 is 80; 7 and 8 =15; 80 and 15 equal 95.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q5-b You just participated in a number talk. What are the benefits of using number talks?
#3rdchat
https://t.co/pmWLB6E9ji
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q5a: I would add the tens place first, then add the ones places, then add the two sums together for total. 30+20, 8+7, 50+15
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MissStanley3rd
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4: I've heard of students creating math glossaries in their notebooks. Would love to try it with my students!
#3rdchat
ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4 Constant exposure. Students need to hear, say, see, and feel the terminology.
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A4 30+20, 8+2 +5 or 30+20+15
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mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@ScurryNHurry
yes and place value, value of digits, etc.
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Great precise language!
#3rdchat
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5: Add 30+20=50, 8+7=15, 50+15=65. Or, give two to 38 to rename 40+25=65
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
Estimation! 38+27 is almost 40 plus almost 30 minus 5
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5b Heard lots of different ways of looking at a problem. Things I didn't think of became clear.
#3rdchat
StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q4: anchor charts, develop deep understanding of vocabulary, modeling, practice!
#3rdchat
#usestallions
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q5a: if explaining to students, utilize math tools, vocab, and reference prior learning
#3rdchat
MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5. 30 and 20 is 50. 8 and 7 is 15. 50 and 15 is 65. :)
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5-b Number talks changed the way I teach computation. So powerful for Ss to explore multiple strategies and share process.
#3rdchat
HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Hearing multiple ways of solving the same problem.
#3rdchat
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#3rdchat
A5: I would decompose 27 as 25 + 2. Add the 2 to the 38 to make a friendly 40 and add 40 and 25 = 65
FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
I could also break 27 into 25 and 2, add the + 25 = 65
#3rdchat
JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@pearse_margie
#3rdchat
So interesting, like effects of emotions on learning. When Ss understand the physiology, feel empowered.
28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Round each number to the nearest 10 and then add. Your answer will be an estimate.
#3rdchat
mleonard03
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: gathering ideas from others 💡 applying skills into conversation and PROBLEM SOLVING 😀
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5-b Through number talks, Ss get the clear message that there is not just one right way to find an answer.
#3rdchat
JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
@MathCoachCorner
@ScurryNHurry
@DaultonAS
#3rdchat
AMEN!
kimforuria
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5.I would decomp. 38 in to 3 t's and 8 o's then 27 into 2 tens 7 ones. Then I would add 10s =50 ones make a group of 10s total 65!
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TaffanieErwin
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 We reinforce math vocab through whole brain movements. 2nd grader stops me all the time & says,"Unknown" & does our motion.
#3rdchat
spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
#3rdchat
Love the multiple strategies that everyone is solving this! Do what works for you :)
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5-a I'm a place value gal, so I'm going 20 + 30 and 7 + 8
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5-b Not everyone learns the same way! Seeing multiple ways to solve the same problem.
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I lost some of my answer...need to do this orally. The two needs to go with the 38 to make 40.
#3rdchat
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FirstAtBat
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
I could also break 27 into 25 and 2, add the + 25 = 65
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
30 and 20 is 50: 7 and 8 is 15; 50 and 15 equals 65. Sorry had the wrong
#s
1st post.
#3rdchat
fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q5b: number talks allow Ss to see multiple methods, develop number sense
#3rdchat
ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5- I would add my tens first 30 +20. Then I'd 7+8, the ones. My sum is 15. 50+ 10 = 60 60+ 5 = 65
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@spiraledu
And that's the power of number talks!
#preachit
#3rdchat
ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q5 30+20=50 8+7=15 50+15=65 Students need to think flexibly, quickly about numbers.
#3rdchat
bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
We're also seeing our mistakes and misconceptions as we "talk" through the problem and with each other
#3rdchat
MrsAlligood13
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A6. I saw that my way was not the only way, there were many ways to solve the problem
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 Sometimes Ts fear that students won't have strategies like we had, but they do
#3rdchat
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
RT Q5-b You just participated in a number talk. What are the benefits of using number talks?
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wkreeves
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5a: we are using compatible numbers with division right now, so I would do 40+25= 65.
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JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
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A5: Ummmmm fingers and toes? Collaborate with classmates to borrow theirs too?
AnnEliseRecord
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Also, 38+20=58. 58+2+5=65
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StacylSlater
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: I would do the same thing Donna. Decompose into place value parts
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
or better ones than what we teach
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
This can be powerful especially for those who don't always get their voice heard ...
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5-b Through number talks, Ss get the clear message that there is not just one right way to find an answer.
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A6: I never see the compatible numbers! Love when I see other use it.
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
RT Q5b
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
RT Q5-b You just participated in a number talk. What are the benefits of using number talks?
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
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Just love seeing all the different ways! challenges students to keep finding new ways to do it!
pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
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A5: Amen! Number Talks has transformed math teaching and learning
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5-b Number talks changed the way I teach computation. So powerful for Ss to explore multiple strategies and share process.
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MissStanley3rd
Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@TaffanieErwin
This sounds like a great strategy, especially for ELLs!
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Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@JaneTunnard
Right, and compensation hurts my brain, but for some that's their favorite strategy!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
do you consider computation only number talks or any math concept involving numbers?
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
It caused me to want to look at it and find another way.
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Q6 How does effective questioning support math talk?
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JenaiaMorane
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@bickd
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Soooo important. The mistakes are not failures but stepping stones to the correct answer.
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
To me, number talks and math talk all kind of blend together
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A6Questioning is key. How do you solve, what other ways work, avoid yes/no answerable questions!!
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6: How's and Why's get us to some deep thought that will increase understanding. We will create Ss models as well as our own.
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MrsAlligood13
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Oct 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A6. Effective questions gets Ss thinking and talking about how they found their answers
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 My favorite question is still Why? Ss must explain their process, whether their answer is right or wrong.
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MissStanley3rd
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@spiraledu
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I like to challenge my kids to see how many different ways they can solve one problem. They love it!
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ScurryNHurry
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
AQ5b Benefits Ss will think through the math at hand. I found myself thinking of how to be mathematically precise
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Good questions w/o yes no answers also avoids the "right answer" phobia
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mleonard03
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Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: leads and guides them to an understanding of standards-love for inquiry and learning
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: questioning can lead to deeper understanding, forces Ss to find other method, make connections, and build on learned skills
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5-b: Helps see other ways. I rarely see compatible numbers. Love when others use them & want to use the strategy naturally.
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Asking do you agree or disagree and why is also powerful in mathematical thinking
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A5b: Ss become fluent in their numbers. Fluent, man!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
RT Q6 How does effective questioning support math talk?
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kimforuria
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q5b. It builds speaking and listening skills! I love the confidence my Ss sharing out math processes
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rachrank22
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6- Effective questioning scaffolds accountable talk by giving Ss a leg up on conversation flow.
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ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Q6 Increases Ss critical thinking skills. Gets the gears really turning and the light bulbs glowing bright.
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
just wondering! I do math talks at start of each lesson, but talks are new&I was unsure if # talks are different
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spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@MathCoachCorner
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The curriculum we use has confusing questions so I supplement writing word problems using the kids, they love it!
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Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
RT Q6 How does effective questioning support math talk?
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MrsAlligood13
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Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
I feel like I always have to break the kids of thinking that just because I ask them "why? How?" Doesn't mean they are wrong!
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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TaffanieErwin
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@bickd
Yes! Help them make connections! Help them internalize the vocabulary/meaning.
MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
@MrsAlligood13
Exactly! That's their first reaction.
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28dianeb
Oct 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Effects them greatly. Sometimes it's about the process and not always the final product.
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Please join us in thanking
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for moderating
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 Questions should extend thinking, assist in developing a deeper understanding, provide opportunities 2 go further in thoughts
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thank you
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and
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for a great chat!!
ShellieBrownedu
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Q5b Gets Ss thinking flexibly about numbers, teaches them that there is more than one way to solve a problem.
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Q6: Questioning improves thinking and precision and helps Ss clarify ideas.
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks to all who came, if this was a first visit, please come back next week.
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We love building our PLN
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Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@MrsAlligood13
yes!! Happened today, need to build confidence that they CAN do it!
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MathCoachCorner
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
It was absolutely my pleasure! Thanks for inviting me.
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HaeJayne
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A great night. Thank you
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Wait it's over?! That went by fast!!
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DaultonAS
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: Questioning leads students to true understanding of the concept rather the process. Don't give answers. Ask more questions.
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FirstAtBat
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Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
The
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Wait it's over?! That went by fast!!
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@fromteach2teach
Time flies when you're having fun and learning lots!
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JaneTunnard
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing great ideas!
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pearse_margie
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
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A6: Good questioning encourages Ss to revise their thinking, move it forward, & then get to experience success in math
spiraledu
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
@FirstAtBat
Thank you
@MathCoachCorner
Please come back & talk about differentiating in math!
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fromteach2teach
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you to all who participated! I love getting new ideas! Thanks to
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for moderating tonight
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FloradTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you
@MathCoachCorner
, a big fan of yours, also thank you
@FirstAtBat
, have added to my PLN tonight, thank you to all at
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bickd
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@spiraledu
@FirstAtBat
@MathCoachCorner
Differentiating with any subject..PLease!!!
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mleonard03
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Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you
@MathCoachCornerfor
moderating
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tonight! Great Q's!!
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