#ASEchat Archive

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Monday April 17, 2017
3:00 PM EDT

  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:00 PM EDT
    Hi everyone on #asechat, this week's chat is on Inspiration vs Knowledge!
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  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:01 PM EDT
    I'm keen to know your thoughts on how much time either should take up in the science classroom! #ASEChat
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  • theASE - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:04 PM EDT
    Join us for#ASEchat now with @NeilMonteiro how much time do we spend 'inspiring' in the classroom? #ASEchat
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:06 PM EDT
    First up, what do you think about trying to inspire interest in science in students? Is it as important as getting the facts across?#asechat
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:08 PM EDT
    I think if you can inspire a child it is then easier to get the facts across #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • AugustaPayeur Apr 17 @ 3:09 PM EDT
    Yes! The more I was inspired the more I learned!! #asechat
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:11 PM EDT
    I think the balance between inspiration and knowledge is dependent on lesson purpose and student age. Eg A-level should be more knw #asechat
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:11 PM EDT
    Controversial take: Inspiring students is not as important as teaching the subject content - discuss :) #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • LessonToolbox Apr 17 @ 3:12 PM EDT
    Daily revision tasks to help student #revision/#studyideas via @teacherchalky1 #asechat #ukedchat #aussieEd
  • theASE - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:12 PM EDT
    Both are important! Is maintaining that inspired feeling sustainable in our classrooms? #ASEchat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    Both are important but if you can inspire kids at an early age their interest in science has a better chance of lasting #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    knowledge always wins in the end ;) Interested but unknowlegable isn't what needs to happen. #asechat
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    A very good point - is that the students' own focus on exams/uni will give them the motivation that interest otherwise provides? #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    C'ren have an amazing capacity for teaching themselves about things they are interestred in - inspiration kick starts them #asechat
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    I can inspire students by doing loads of lessons about space or dinosaurs. Most are into those things 1/2 #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    By A-level I think students are there by choice - they have an interest or decided the subject has relevance to future. #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:17 PM EDT
    But different students will find different aspects of science inspiring. Our job is to ensure they learn all we teach... 2/3 #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
    Surely knowledge builds on interest and inspiration - once c'ren are engaged they want to add the knowledge to their interest #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
    Not just the bits that interest or inspire them. Learning is hard work and harder when there is less interest. Conundrum. #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
    Focusing on building interest papers over gaps in knowledge - both for student and teachers own knowledge gaps #asechat
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
    Spot on - hopefully by inspiring and engaging more c'ren at PS more will have the sustained interest to carry science on to A-level #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
    Or knowledge will lead to interest :) #ASEChat How can you be interested in something you don't know anything about.
    In reply to @Glazgow
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
    It's hard *not* to be able to make a lot of science interesting. If we're interested in what we're teaching that is half the battle #asechat
    In reply to @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
    #asechat (Don't forget the hashtag).
    • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
      Yes indeed but if we can inspire a love for even 1 aspect of science surely they will be more willing to learn from you the content
      In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
    Do you ever see one have a detrimental effect on the other? For example, have you seen giving knowledge kill off interest? #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
    Or do both happen simultaneously? Can they happen in isolation? Do people bother finding out about things they're not interested in #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:22 PM EDT
    Knowledge leads to interest, interest leads to choice, choice leads to happiness #asechat
  • rjpritchard Apr 17 @ 3:22 PM EDT
    the subject content IS inspiring/interesting (if not, we try to make it). Not mutually exclusive :-) #ASEchat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    #ASEChat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    But many aspects of science are only understood because of interest in unrelated topics i.e nuclear physics from studying stars #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    Agreed. I don't think it's a *vs* question. How do we make the content inspriring is better. #asechat
    In reply to @rjpritchard, @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    Building lessons to be interesting could mean the point of the lesson is missed and while nice at the time on reflection is hollow #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @Glazgow
  • AugustaPayeur Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    I have seen knowledge kill off interest because of the way it was being presented, they were taking the fun/interest out of it #asechat
  • rjpritchard Apr 17 @ 3:24 PM EDT
    sometimes we shoot ourselves in foot with whizz bang open evenings etc. Makes science look… 1/2 #ASEchat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:24 PM EDT
    Definitely at PS it can, need to interest c'ren, get them hooked before you give them the knowledge - wait till they ask why? #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    We could teach nuclear physics without any reference to stars (in fact new GCSE spec asks us to do exactly that for combined sci) #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    But surely to make it relevant and interesting context is important... #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @A_Weatherall
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Teach knowledge so it is 'interesting'. Just good (and now for a bad word) pedagogy? #ASEChat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @rjpritchard, @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Just like knowledge leads to success and success leads to confidence #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Very true - the knowledge/skills have to be there but at PS you have to hook the c'ren first - wait till they ask why? #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    But no science teacher in their right mind would do so - because of context. Not necessarily because of inspiration... #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    That's interesting! When it comes to fusion, would that not be separating it from it's history of discovery? #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    Me too! #ASEChat
    In reply to @AugustaPayeur
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    Agree. Could teach it in lots of ways - depends on class. There is no 'right way' to make things interesting #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • rjpritchard Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    …like it’s all explosions. Reality is hard work & thinking (& with experiments, repetitive) 2/2 #ASEchat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:27 PM EDT
    I completely agree here! Most people can also see through this and smell the desperation... #asechat
    In reply to @rjpritchard, @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:27 PM EDT
    This allows learners to make connections which for some is crucial to learning #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @A_Weatherall
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:28 PM EDT
    For those students not interested in science, they still need knowledge to help make informed decisions and understand the world #asechat
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    I didn't say it was a good idea :) #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    Especially the students #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @rjpritchard, @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    I personally think knowledge should take up more time in the science classroom. #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    #asechat - Don't forget the #tag :)
    • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
      I also worry that science knowledge without the context of why someone found it interesting enough to study leads to a misrepresentation...
      In reply to @MrsSingleton, @A_Weatherall
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    So another question! When you find students have a interest already, where does that tend to come from? #asechat
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    While we all find science interesting is it appropriate to expect all/most student to as well? Should we have a target? #asechat
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    Especially at PS where most c'ren are 'interested' in almost everything they do in science - makes adding the knowledge easier #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    I think inspiring our students is very important, I think providing interesting facts to our students will inspire them #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    I think it is very sustainable simply by keeping students interested. #EDCI3655 #ASEChat
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    I completely agree! If students are inspired to be better in science, they will become more interested in the facts #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    I think nearly all have it from primary- but as they get older I find lots lose their interest... #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    Do we teach interest? Is it something we dedicate lessons to? Or just part of teaching knowledge? #asechat
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Parents, primary school. There's a graph of this somewhere #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    It depends on the subject and child. Some students are inspired at home and are at school to be taught and some need both #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    Family member, TV, YouTube, internet, general interest in stuff #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    A great question! (and one I had planned!) Do you/should you dedicate time to creating interest? If so, how much? #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • AugustaPayeur Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    It can come from many different places parents, siblings, school, friends, Bill Nye tye Science Guy. #asechat
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    I agree! We should make subjects inspiring and interesting. #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @rjpritchard, @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    #asechat this is going on to study science at university I think. But the results are interesting.
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    Thanks! Where's this one from? Interesting that "I was good at science" is high up - is this not a circular thing? #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    I'm not sure a teacher can teach interest in students. There are some subjects I will never have interest in. #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Is that just a symptom of science becoming more knowledge based and therefore perceived as harder? #asechat
    In reply to @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    Many students choose to study things that they find they're good at earlier in their education #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • theASE - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    When was this? Doesn't inc. social media. With I think commonly sparks interest for Gen Z. Creates some concern over misconception. #ASEchat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    I think we should but time is precious as we need to get content in...can build it across the curriculum /enrichment opportunity? #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    Not explicitly - you should plan lessons to do their job but make an effort to make it of interest to the students. #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    I have definitely experienced this myself. #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @AugustaPayeur
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    I think maybe it is.... content driven is hard to contend with #ASEChat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    https://t.co/Dj4nhmS8am 2013 by looks of it #asechat
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Is that science or the science curriculum? Is science not mostly based in lack of knowledge? #asechat
    In reply to @MrsSingleton, @Glazgow
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Why make things interesting? What is the final 'goal'? More doing A-level? More doing sci at uni? Better exam results? #asechat
  • theASE - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Also will this approach lead to desired outcomes? A level uptake? #STEM careers? Or greater science literacy? #ASEchat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    Those provide them with extrinsic motivation, but is it just as important to inspire them to build intrinsic motivation #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    A lot of PS is focused on teaching scientific skills through a variety of contexts - far more knowledge comes at secondary #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MrsSingleton
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    Knowledge is tricky in science anyway. 'Knowledge supported by all available evidence but open to challenge' harder to say though #asechat
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    Yep this is key!!! Intrinsic motivation will go a lot further and have greater impact than extrinsic motivation! #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    I think the final goal is the same: for education... So this is really about how much difference would it make to have a room 1/2 #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    But working scientifically now embedded into the new GCSE science curriculum - if we do it right #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro, @MrsSingleton
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    of mostly interested and self-motivated students. And is this even possible? 2/2 #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    I think interest is just something that good teachers develop in their pupils - you can't explicitly teach it #asechat
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    I'm not sure it'll always lead to the desired outcome, but the idea may increase girls in STEM and more science literacy #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    I'd suggest that enthusiasm for your subject is the best way of generating interest and engaging c'ren #asechat
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Most students who pick single science GCSE and A Level have self selected their interest. But we teach GCSE science to all students #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    I agree, my personal desire to learn is what kept me going most days! #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Intrinsically motivated c'ren is the holy grail of teaching - when you can spark something and they go away and teach themselves #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    The role of the teacher to inspire students is especially relevant to those with no source of inspiration outside of school #asechat
  • hecharden Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    I think that is very true. I have seen my son inspired in different subjects..the common link was a passionate teacher #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    Mine too... still inspires me to learn to date #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    I think we should make it more interesting for the sake of having a more educated population #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    Will be excellent if done right - but there is a lot of knowledge content to pack in too #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro, @MrsSingleton
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    Most of them don't/can't//won't. That's why they've got teachers and access to free education up to 18 :) #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    The teacher doesn't always have to be the source. Teachers need to be able to teach knowledge to all, including the inspired #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Yes, if we are seen as passionate about what we are teaching, or students will be more likely to learn #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    They need to be a source - and a primary one. But great if not the only one. #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • hecharden Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    I learn better when I am interested..by which I mean when I am intellectually curious about something #asechat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Also show our passion for learning #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Could you not cross can't off that list in recent times? It must be very rare for students to not have internet/youtube access? #ASEChat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @Glazgow, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Passion for a subject, or teaching, can go a long way to covering other deficiencies :-) covers my poor spelling & disorganisation #asechat
    In reply to @hecharden, @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    I'm treating the whole specification as the content. Practical/Theoretical/Mathematical/SciMethod. It's the whole caboodle #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro, @MrsSingleton
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    That is true, there are a lot of other ways kids can learn, but teachers are important, too! #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    You have to passionate but you do need to 'know' your subject. Passion is no cover for lack of knowledge #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    Doesn't mean they can teach themselves - we always see this from an adults perspective having gone through this #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @Glazgow, @MarcNeesam
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    I have seen passion for teaching take a lesson way off track and actually hinder learning... so balance is vital #ASEChat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @hecharden, @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    I agree - but it's amazing when it happens #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    Very true, but never forget there are some students not as blessed as others in terms of technology access #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @A_Weatherall, @Glazgow, @MarcNeesam
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    It's amazing because it's fairly rare :) #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    That's why we should facilitate the learning of all our students and provide variety and opportunity #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @Glazgow, @NeilMonteiro
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    100% agree, but most people who are passionate about a subject tend to have a wide array of knowledge on that subject #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton, @NeilMonteiro
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    YES!!!! Here here!! 👏🏼👏🏼It has to be relevant to your spec #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @emilycedci3655, @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    This is almost what we've been discussing... if a student too is passionate, would they not become knowledgable eventually? #ASEChat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton
  • Glazgow Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    That's true - but I think on balance passion is usually a positive in the classroom #asechat
    In reply to @MrsSingleton, @hecharden, @theASE, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    I don't mean magically! But either through school or on their own? #asechat
    In reply to @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    I think our lessons should be designed to inspire, not given an allotted time frame #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @theASE, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Not necessarily. Think about all the people who are passionate about not vaccinating their children. :) #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @MrsSingleton
  • MrsSingleton Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    Yes I'm what they want to find out... but this may not necessarily help them for their exams- but it depends how you value this #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    They need guidance and direction Neil. And that's part of our job #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @MrsSingleton
  • theASE - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    If that passion leads them beyond the curriculum and to independent learning #ASEchat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    Very true, although they tend to know a lot more about vaccination than the average person, it's skewed the wrong way #asechat
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @MrsSingleton
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Very true, which is why we need to educate the population as much as possible #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @A_Weatherall, @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam, @MrsSingleton
  • MarcNeesam Apr 17 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Passion can blind people to their own faults, or issues in their teaching, and challenging something can be taken very personally. #asechat
    In reply to @Glazgow, @MrsSingleton, @hecharden, @theASE, @NeilMonteiro
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    That's my point. :) The need direction. Passion or inspiration is not enough #asechat
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @emilycedci3655, @MarcNeesam, @MrsSingleton
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    That would have put me right off science. #asechat
    In reply to @DavidWray
  • NeilMonteiro Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    We're almost at the end of the hour of #asechat so I just want to share one strategy that helps in my job to inspire interest 1/2 #ASEChat
  • emilycedci3655 Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    They might become knowledgeable eventually, but would they learn as quickly as needed? #ASEChat #EDCI3655
    In reply to @NeilMonteiro, @MarcNeesam, @A_Weatherall, @MrsSingleton
  • A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    #asechat I think that could easily come under science film or TV.
    • DavidWray Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
      The list doesn't include Big Bang Theory!