#ASEchat Archive
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Monday April 17, 2017
3:00 PM EDT
NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:00 PM EDT
Hi everyone on
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:01 PM EDT
I'm keen to know your thoughts on how much time either should take up in the science classroom!
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:02 PM EDT
I'm also a bit of a twitter noob and trying tweet deck for the first time, so we'll see how this goes!
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theASE
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Apr 17 @ 3:04 PM EDT
Join us for#ASEchat now with
@NeilMonteiro
how much time do we spend 'inspiring' in the classroom?
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:06 PM EDT
First up, what do you think about trying to inspire interest in science in students? Is it as important as getting the facts across?
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:08 PM EDT
I think if you can inspire a child it is then easier to get the facts across
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AugustaPayeur
Apr 17 @ 3:09 PM EDT
Yes! The more I was inspired the more I learned!!
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:11 PM EDT
I think the balance between inspiration and knowledge is dependent on lesson purpose and student age. Eg A-level should be more knw
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:11 PM EDT
Controversial take: Inspiring students is not as important as teaching the subject content - discuss :)
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LessonToolbox
Apr 17 @ 3:12 PM EDT
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theASE
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Apr 17 @ 3:12 PM EDT
Both are important! Is maintaining that inspired feeling sustainable in our classrooms?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
Both are important but if you can inspire kids at an early age their interest in science has a better chance of lasting
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
knowledge always wins in the end ;) Interested but unknowlegable isn't what needs to happen.
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:14 PM EDT
A very good point - is that the students' own focus on exams/uni will give them the motivation that interest otherwise provides?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
C'ren have an amazing capacity for teaching themselves about things they are interestred in - inspiration kick starts them
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
I can inspire students by doing loads of lessons about space or dinosaurs. Most are into those things 1/2
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:16 PM EDT
By A-level I think students are there by choice - they have an interest or decided the subject has relevance to future.
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:17 PM EDT
But different students will find different aspects of science inspiring. Our job is to ensure they learn all we teach... 2/3
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Surely knowledge builds on interest and inspiration - once c'ren are engaged they want to add the knowledge to their interest
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Not just the bits that interest or inspire them. Learning is hard work and harder when there is less interest. Conundrum.
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:18 PM EDT
Focusing on building interest papers over gaps in knowledge - both for student and teachers own knowledge gaps
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Spot on - hopefully by inspiring and engaging more c'ren at PS more will have the sustained interest to carry science on to A-level
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Or knowledge will lead to interest :)
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How can you be interested in something you don't know anything about.
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LessonToolbox
Apr 17 @ 3:20 PM EDT
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
It's hard *not* to be able to make a lot of science interesting. If we're interested in what we're teaching that is half the battle
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:19 PM EDT
Yes indeed but if we can inspire a love for even 1 aspect of science surely they will be more willing to learn from you the content
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
Do you ever see one have a detrimental effect on the other? For example, have you seen giving knowledge kill off interest?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:21 PM EDT
Or do both happen simultaneously? Can they happen in isolation? Do people bother finding out about things they're not interested in
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:22 PM EDT
Knowledge leads to interest, interest leads to choice, choice leads to happiness
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rjpritchard
Apr 17 @ 3:22 PM EDT
the subject content IS inspiring/interesting (if not, we try to make it). Not mutually exclusive :-)
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
But many aspects of science are only understood because of interest in unrelated topics i.e nuclear physics from studying stars
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Agreed. I don't think it's a *vs* question. How do we make the content inspriring is better.
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
Building lessons to be interesting could mean the point of the lesson is missed and while nice at the time on reflection is hollow
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AugustaPayeur
Apr 17 @ 3:23 PM EDT
I have seen knowledge kill off interest because of the way it was being presented, they were taking the fun/interest out of it
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rjpritchard
Apr 17 @ 3:24 PM EDT
sometimes we shoot ourselves in foot with whizz bang open evenings etc. Makes science look… 1/2
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:24 PM EDT
Definitely at PS it can, need to interest c'ren, get them hooked before you give them the knowledge - wait till they ask why?
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
We could teach nuclear physics without any reference to stars (in fact new GCSE spec asks us to do exactly that for combined sci)
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
But surely to make it relevant and interesting context is important...
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
Teach knowledge so it is 'interesting'. Just good (and now for a bad word) pedagogy?
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
Just like knowledge leads to success and success leads to confidence
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:25 PM EDT
Very true - the knowledge/skills have to be there but at PS you have to hook the c'ren first - wait till they ask why?
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
But no science teacher in their right mind would do so - because of context. Not necessarily because of inspiration...
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
That's interesting! When it comes to fusion, would that not be separating it from it's history of discovery?
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
Me too!
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
Agree. Could teach it in lots of ways - depends on class. There is no 'right way' to make things interesting
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rjpritchard
Apr 17 @ 3:26 PM EDT
…like it’s all explosions. Reality is hard work & thinking (& with experiments, repetitive) 2/2
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:27 PM EDT
I completely agree here! Most people can also see through this and smell the desperation...
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:27 PM EDT
This allows learners to make connections which for some is crucial to learning
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:28 PM EDT
For those students not interested in science, they still need knowledge to help make informed decisions and understand the world
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
I didn't say it was a good idea :)
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
Especially the students
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:30 PM EDT
I personally think knowledge should take up more time in the science classroom.
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:30 PM EDT
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:29 PM EDT
I also worry that science knowledge without the context of why someone found it interesting enough to study leads to a misrepresentation...
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
So another question! When you find students have a interest already, where does that tend to come from?
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
While we all find science interesting is it appropriate to expect all/most student to as well? Should we have a target?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
Especially at PS where most c'ren are 'interested' in almost everything they do in science - makes adding the knowledge easier
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:31 PM EDT
I think inspiring our students is very important, I think providing interesting facts to our students will inspire them
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:32 PM EDT
I think it is very sustainable simply by keeping students interested.
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:33 PM EDT
I completely agree! If students are inspired to be better in science, they will become more interested in the facts
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:34 PM EDT
I think nearly all have it from primary- but as they get older I find lots lose their interest...
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:34 PM EDT
Do we teach interest? Is it something we dedicate lessons to? Or just part of teaching knowledge?
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Parents, primary school. There's a graph of this somewhere
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
It depends on the subject and child. Some students are inspired at home and are at school to be taught and some need both
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
Family member, TV, YouTube, internet, general interest in stuff
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM EDT
A great question! (and one I had planned!) Do you/should you dedicate time to creating interest? If so, how much?
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AugustaPayeur
Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM EDT
It can come from many different places parents, siblings, school, friends, Bill Nye tye Science Guy.
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
I agree! We should make subjects inspiring and interesting.
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
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this is going on to study science at university I think. But the results are interesting.
A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM EDT
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:37 PM EDT
Thanks! Where's this one from? Interesting that "I was good at science" is high up - is this not a circular thing?
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM EDT
I'm not sure a teacher can teach interest in students. There are some subjects I will never have interest in.
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Is that just a symptom of science becoming more knowledge based and therefore perceived as harder?
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Many students choose to study things that they find they're good at earlier in their education
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theASE
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Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
When was this? Doesn't inc. social media. With I think commonly sparks interest for Gen Z. Creates some concern over misconception.
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
I think we should but time is precious as we need to get content in...can build it across the curriculum /enrichment opportunity?
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Not explicitly - you should plan lessons to do their job but make an effort to make it of interest to the students.
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM EDT
I have definitely experienced this myself.
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM EDT
I think maybe it is.... content driven is hard to contend with
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
https://t.co/Dj4nhmS8am
2013 by looks of it
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Is that science or the science curriculum? Is science not mostly based in lack of knowledge?
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Why make things interesting? What is the final 'goal'? More doing A-level? More doing sci at uni? Better exam results?
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theASE
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Apr 17 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Also will this approach lead to desired outcomes? A level uptake?
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careers? Or greater science literacy?
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:42 PM EDT
Those provide them with extrinsic motivation, but is it just as important to inspire them to build intrinsic motivation
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:43 PM EDT
A lot of PS is focused on teaching scientific skills through a variety of contexts - far more knowledge comes at secondary
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Knowledge is tricky in science anyway. 'Knowledge supported by all available evidence but open to challenge' harder to say though
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
Yep this is key!!! Intrinsic motivation will go a lot further and have greater impact than extrinsic motivation!
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
I think the final goal is the same: for education... So this is really about how much difference would it make to have a room 1/2
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
But working scientifically now embedded into the new GCSE science curriculum - if we do it right
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM EDT
of mostly interested and self-motivated students. And is this even possible? 2/2
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I think interest is just something that good teachers develop in their pupils - you can't explicitly teach it
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I'm not sure it'll always lead to the desired outcome, but the idea may increase girls in STEM and more science literacy
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I'd suggest that enthusiasm for your subject is the best way of generating interest and engaging c'ren
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Most students who pick single science GCSE and A Level have self selected their interest. But we teach GCSE science to all students
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
I agree, my personal desire to learn is what kept me going most days!
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:46 PM EDT
Intrinsically motivated c'ren is the holy grail of teaching - when you can spark something and they go away and teach themselves
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
The role of the teacher to inspire students is especially relevant to those with no source of inspiration outside of school
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hecharden
Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
I think that is very true. I have seen my son inspired in different subjects..the common link was a passionate teacher
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM EDT
Mine too... still inspires me to learn to date
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
I think we should make it more interesting for the sake of having a more educated population
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Will be excellent if done right - but there is a lot of knowledge content to pack in too
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
Most of them don't/can't//won't. That's why they've got teachers and access to free education up to 18 :)
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:48 PM EDT
The teacher doesn't always have to be the source. Teachers need to be able to teach knowledge to all, including the inspired
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Yes, if we are seen as passionate about what we are teaching, or students will be more likely to learn
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:49 PM EDT
They need to be a source - and a primary one. But great if not the only one.
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hecharden
Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
I learn better when I am interested..by which I mean when I am intellectually curious about something
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Also show our passion for learning
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Could you not cross can't off that list in recent times? It must be very rare for students to not have internet/youtube access?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
Passion for a subject, or teaching, can go a long way to covering other deficiencies :-) covers my poor spelling & disorganisation
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:50 PM EDT
I'm treating the whole specification as the content. Practical/Theoretical/Mathematical/SciMethod. It's the whole caboodle
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
That is true, there are a lot of other ways kids can learn, but teachers are important, too!
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
You have to passionate but you do need to 'know' your subject. Passion is no cover for lack of knowledge
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Doesn't mean they can teach themselves - we always see this from an adults perspective having gone through this
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
I have seen passion for teaching take a lesson way off track and actually hinder learning... so balance is vital
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
I agree - but it's amazing when it happens
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM EDT
Very true, but never forget there are some students not as blessed as others in terms of technology access
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
It's amazing because it's fairly rare :)
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
That's why we should facilitate the learning of all our students and provide variety and opportunity
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
100% agree, but most people who are passionate about a subject tend to have a wide array of knowledge on that subject
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM EDT
YES!!!! Here here!! 👏🏼👏🏼It has to be relevant to your spec
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
This is almost what we've been discussing... if a student too is passionate, would they not become knowledgable eventually?
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Glazgow
Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
That's true - but I think on balance passion is usually a positive in the classroom
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
I don't mean magically! But either through school or on their own?
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
I think our lessons should be designed to inspire, not given an allotted time frame
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Not necessarily. Think about all the people who are passionate about not vaccinating their children. :)
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MrsSingleton
Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
Yes I'm what they want to find out... but this may not necessarily help them for their exams- but it depends how you value this
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
They need guidance and direction Neil. And that's part of our job
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theASE
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Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
If that passion leads them beyond the curriculum and to independent learning
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
Very true, although they tend to know a lot more about vaccination than the average person, it's skewed the wrong way
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Very true, which is why we need to educate the population as much as possible
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MarcNeesam
Apr 17 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Passion can blind people to their own faults, or issues in their teaching, and challenging something can be taken very personally.
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM EDT
That's my point. :) The need direction. Passion or inspiration is not enough
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A_Weatherall
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Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM EDT
That would have put me right off science.
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NeilMonteiro
Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
We're almost at the end of the hour of
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so I just want to share one strategy that helps in my job to inspire interest 1/2
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emilycedci3655
Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
They might become knowledgeable eventually, but would they learn as quickly as needed?
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Apr 17 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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I think that could easily come under science film or TV.
DavidWray
Apr 17 @ 3:56 PM EDT
The list doesn't include Big Bang Theory!