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Thursday May 26, 2016
Shelly from Toronto; Instructional Coach.
that's awesome Chris - enjoy
I attended in service training on our new language curriculum in English and Irish.Its about ticking boxes.Lacks quality tchn
Hi ! Michelle here, popping in for a few from a comfy chair on the patio!
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Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one it's time for Intro -- name, location role https://t.co/S0ie8DRsns
Hello! Tobie from Bentonville, Arkansas.
Greetingsl! Debby from NY super excited to join in hosting this evening. Ready to talk formative assessment.
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Karen from Arkansas. Looking forward to formative assessment.
Hi! Emma from Thunder Bay, ON Canada. Currently a Masters student and supply teacher at High school level.
Hi Craig I completed my 13 mile last Friday in 4hrs 36mins
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Tracy here from Saskatchewan, Canada joining
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Stuart Kelly, DP & Lead, Aorere Digital, Auckland New Zealand
Live from , home of sunshine, 80 degrees, and the soon-to-be NBA champion Cavaliers
Good evening
from LI, NY
MS Principal
Hey Shelly. Thanks for joining!
Dear PLN - can you help share this to get Mel a teacher in https://t.co/l9R00niCdg
Bonjour! Any educators in Tahiti? Interested in doing a ? Looking to connect with French speaking students.
Happy Thursday! I am Noa, fresh off of Storifying last nights awesome with , ready to talk formatives
Hi Ashleigh from Auckland, NZ, first year education student at Laidlaw
Oh, I'm also a veteran educator and creator of all things .
Hey there Todd. Great to see you here :) Thanks for joining !
Hello from Tx! I'm currently a full time grad student
Hi Chris from the Robin Hood County England teaching &
Elisa, grade 5 teacher in Quito, Ecuador! I've been out of commission for too long. Looking forward to tonight's chat.
thanks Mark! Glad I could join for a bit!
thanks Debby; I love this chat!
ha, ha... I'm a serotonin pump!
Jim Smith, Assessment and Data, Twin Cities, Minnesota.
Hey everyone. Mike from the Dominican Republic
Welcome Michele. So glad you're here.
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Hi I am in and out between meetings today - just wanted to say hello and thank & for leading!!
Jena Ball, CritterKin & Not Perfect Hat Club creator tweeting in from North Carolina.
Kaylyn Julian 4th grade teacher teaching in Indonesian.
Dear PLN -can you help with a connection in these countries? https://t.co/f2JTmYNK0N
looking for an Australian/Indonesian etc school to live with Mon or Thurs NZT. Anyone keen?
For this chat, I should add that I'm the founder of the Teachers Throwing Out Grades movement https://t.co/1mV6xQ1JoK
Hi everyone, Im Sam and I'm from New Zealand.
Elisa! Good to see you :-)
I grew up in Ecuador. What school do you teach at?
Chris Weber from California hi
Hi Kaylyn, welcome to -->
Howdy from Katy, Texas - Kelley, AP
You are too kind. Super excited to be hosting with you this evening!
I love Quito. How wonderful! https://t.co/9U1CerOuaW
Elisa, grade 5 teacher in Quito, Ecuador! I've been out of commission for too long. Looking forward to tonight's chat.
The one and only Sammy, welcome to -->
Thank you! Olympic picture from colleague, other & Pic Collage from me
good morning! rizza from philippines, k-3 T
A1 Formative assessment= DAILY instructional ponderings embedded in heat of learning moments to inform next steps
A1:FA-Foundation for successful teaching occuring during instruc.Allows for immed S feedback to improve instructional outcomes
PLN magic happening here ->
A1: Formative assessment is assessment for learning- using feedback to guide next steps for students
Formative Assessment: increase student learning w/ data used to
Adjust instruction
Inform students of strengths and weaknesses
More than anything, I like to facilitate student learning through problem solving and considering opposing views.
Thanks for joining us Paul!
. Something used to inform teaching and learning. Should never be graded.
A1 FA is assessment as learning and the purpose is to develop student autonomy and leadership.
A1 FA is assessment as learning and the purpose is to develop student autonomy and leadership.
A1 Formative assessment is a guide for instruction when done correctly.
A1: FA drives instruction; about giving descriptive feedback to determine next steps & setting goals.
A1 Check points along the way. This can be academic, social, emotional, Maslow. I begin assessing my Ss the moment they enter!
A1: FA: small daily check-ins either individual or peer or group that gives Ss and Ts a quick understanding where the class is
A1 Formative assessment measures a student's growth overtime.
Spoken like the Mark we all love! https://t.co/34JwU39arK
. Something used to inform teaching and learning. Should never be graded.
Love the guide reference. .
Jena!!! Great to have you join us!
Mark, Mary has a wonderful definition for formative assessment. https://t.co/Lb2sWETnOc
A1 Formative assessment= DAILY instructional ponderings embedded in heat of learning moments to inform next steps
A1 It's a tool to assess learning/teaching and should be used to measure Ss "with-itness" before/after/during a lesson.
Formative assessment questions provide focus for studying
No final grade, no mark, no letter
PRACTICE
To which guide are you referring?
Thanks for joining in Kaylyn!
Hello from Fl, sorry I'm late
A1: an assessment that shows where a S is in the process of what they're learning-used to guide what's next to reach goal
I like this definition Mary.
I really like assessment for learning; I really love assessment as learning https://t.co/qKM3UKRFxz
A1: Formative assessment is assessment for learning- using feedback to guide next steps for students
A1: you want to improve learning, FA will let you help Ss to focus on learning & not grades.
A1 Formative assessment connected to THE CHILD & our instruction informs & enhances what we do.
Formative is about making learning transparent. Observing work and engaging kids in ongoing conversations
Thanks Shelly... so how's that working for you?
A1 keeps a Ss on the straight & narrow & we are not all like Robin Hood who can split an arrow first time
Funny thing: This defN check has helped me see errors in my Lesson Plan Assignment lol xD Thank you :D
Jules here, speech language pathologist in NYC. I'll be in and out because I'm on the subway
Welcome Sam. Great to have you with us!
Yes, I was reflecting thinking that I missed that point in my answer
. the guiding of next steps, allows student growth and ownership. .
. the guiding of next steps, allows student growth and ownership. .
A1: Formative assessment is the process of checking S understanding along the way to mastery. Never should be graded!
Carol ELA Consultant from Long Island here for with two favorite Twitter friends: &
Carol ELA Consultant from Long Island here for with two favorite Twitter friends: &
A1- FA shows you where your Ss are and lets you adjust to help them go even further.
A1 something to guide your instruction in class as well as gauge where the learners at in the learning cycle
A1: Assessment that drives learning, feedback for improvement, qualitative not quantitative https://t.co/enAHphKFTU
Nailed it! https://t.co/cyG9vF4oF3
A1 Formative assessment= DAILY instructional ponderings embedded in heat of learning moments to inform next steps
Hello Mary!!!! Thrilled that you are with us tonight!
A1: Measures growth and guides instruction.
A1 it is a quick check to assess who got and who didn't after a lesson
Hi. Lori in a very stormy MO tonight.
A1: should happen everyday to check in w/ Ss & see how they are doing.
Marvelous Mary, simply marvelous....
A1 FA in every interaction with student. Ongoing and forward going for Ts and Sts
A1: FA is a quick check of student understanding of a skill or concept taught.
Hi Debby. Loved being here with you and Mark & friends. It’s been too long!
love the word ponderings A1
A1: Formative assessment holds students & teachers accountable & it proves when learning has happened https://t.co/vTxFCzOYeG
I like "no grade, no mark, no letter -practice https://t.co/NFQFkc4Zou
Formative assessment questions provide focus for studying
No final grade, no mark, no letter
PRACTICE
I was just discussing how when we provide those next steps, we also have to help S be accountable to follow up
Tanna from TX, great topic! Ready to learn
And certainly embedded in learning.
Thanks Michael... Good start, please say more.
A1 (part 2): it also means meaningful, relevant instruction since you're teaching what students need to know
Q1 Ss identify strengths & fix weaknesses. Could formative assess also support Ts in evaluations? https://t.co/6JqMyWOoIP
formative assessment drives our next instructional move A1
Interesting that you used the word accountable...strong word, but right on point
Assessment works best with a digital portfolio tool that makes artifact collection and feedback easy. https://t.co/WngfXJJhhY
A1: a way to gauge where students are at in the learning process and how to help them get to the next part of the process.
Ss learned to focus on FB which helped them focus on learning & not the grades. Took a while
I agree. Students can have freedom but with it comes responsibility as well. .
A1: FA=another way 2 say attuned & adjusting 2 Ss & environment 2 ensure all Ss' needs are addressed & learning is optimized.
A1: Opportunities for learners to show learning and for Ts & Ss to know the next steps...a window into students' understanding.
happy to join the wonderful PLN
I new you were going to "Bring it" tonight, Mary :D
exactly-it drives our instructional moves A1
- popping in late & lurking ... Huge fan of convos/feedback vs grades ...
Another fine example of PLN power in action happening here ->
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A1 FA is what gets T & Ss examining learning authentically to plan next learning steps that benefit Ss not external measures.
Yes and strengthens the student/teacher relationship.
Exactly! It's FORMative be sure it inFORMS your teaching (not your gradebook!) https://t.co/AxY2krU8Pt
. Something used to inform teaching and learning. Should never be graded.
A1 If assessment can’t enrich the learning lives of Sts & elevate our work for THEM… then what’s point?
I have decided to have students show evidence of learning from feedback as part of the experience, especially
Allison, welcome to --> so give an example of how you used FA today?
A1: to check along way to see if Ss are hitting the learning targets, also for Ts to know to scale back or ramp up
A1: A tool to inform student learning and instructional practices
Teach students to love learning, not the grade
Much like a tire pressure gauge measures TP, a FA measures student comprehension
Mindy from Fort Worth getting here late
Challenging times of hyperfidelity to make common sense INSISTENCE all the more critical.
it's a journey esp w/ parents
A1: What is FA? That's like asking, what is the meaning of life? Hard to answer!
Great! It can help teachers see who needs more work and attention on particular learning outcomes
wow! i love that analogy! will borrow it ok?
Can I ask, is FA more for teachers or Ss?
A1: it's organic and determine future based on present understanding no pre-fab!!
National Treasures to be cherished and honored ->
Correct, it's not assessment just 4assessment's sake. It's 2 impact our teaching &Ss' learning. A1
I think the power of FA is when it guides Ss as mush as it guides Ts
might be easier to answer what is it not?
I agree. This summer I hope to be back in more late night chats 😊
A1: Might be easier to say what it's NOT - it's not a test. Not a quiz. Not a one-shot anything.
Jumping on in now from Nelson NZ. Will catch up as we go
A1: Formative assessment provides feedback, shows progress and informs instruction
A1: the check up teachers use to answer the question. "Where to next"
exactly; we are accountable to make sure learning happens & there is growth.
Love fact that MANY angles here in chat - show us the vibrant angles of Form Assess. Awesome collective definition from all
true. https://t.co/x1vCWbxK0r
A1: Might be easier to say what it's NOT - it's not a test. Not a quiz. Not a one-shot anything.
Does it have to be more for one than the other?
and this is a mindset that will guide them throughout life!
Bravo!Yes inFORMS next everything;&spiral back& what interventions we might want to/or not repeat A1 https://t.co/nWhpDM0eT0
Exactly! It's FORMative be sure it inFORMS your teaching (not your gradebook!) https://t.co/AxY2krU8Pt
. Something used to inform teaching and learning. Should never be graded.
Thee you go Angela...nailed it!
Many Ts say that "assessment should drive learning"
But are we all thinking it means the same thing?
https://t.co/guTvaaI1Gv
Yes Shelly & anything less is an excuse NOT to the do the right thing. We do it IN SPITE OF the craziness!
A2: I utilize FA to provide feedback to Ss about their progress, & to guide decisions about next steps in learning.
So glad you're here with us!
A1: formative assessment should help Ts better understand what Ss know/don't in realtime & also inform future instruction.
A2: Unfortunately I do not - as I just supply. Mostly I have seen - brochures, tests, etc. Mainly traditional methods.
I say both; helps Ts to design appropriate lessons & Ss to set goals & develop skills
Lets not get too focused on assessment.Lets focus on quality teaching.Quality teaching is key to lifelong learning
A1 Thinking FA works well if it includes Sts reflections on their learning & understanding
Q1 Formative assessment is following up on Ss progress and how they can regenerate for finals
JoAn in taxi heading to work in heavy traffic Singapore Q1: a way for S to inform T the relevancy of their t-ing
A2 I use the data fo FA to guide my instruction if no one got it then I reteach it
A 1 Formative assessment gives students an opportunity right away to see strengths & weaknesses related to a lesson topic.
I envision an intricate thread that weaves both Teacher AND students together Sammy https://t.co/uzmXFpLCsI
Can I ask, is FA more for teachers or Ss?
Agree. Formative assessment in the classroom should be as essential & natural as breathing.
Both-for teachers to determine next steps in teaching-for students to determine next steps in learning https://t.co/Ev3Lpyitig
Can I ask, is FA more for teachers or Ss?
Learned from 20 yrs ago that the word assessment traces its meaning to the Latin assidere - "to sit beside." Wow
The current and future trends of educational technology - including where formative assessment sits https://t.co/EENrsNBDUy
A2: FA is used to encourage Ss to show their thinking & provides me w/ a way to see and gauge students' cognitive processes.
A2: I use FA constantly to check and reteach things like
A2 Formative assessment is to be used daily. It can be a reflective protocol: exit card, self-reflection, thumb-o-meter
bingo!! Ss have to 'buy-in' & realize its value & worth
A2: Use and to track progress in a fun way
No idea, but judging by current industrial model, the point is 2 mass produce Ss & quality test them at the end.
yes some replies sounds more like for Ts I'm keen to hear this answered too
A2: Conferencing- T and peer, pointing out, feedback in writing, feedback on assignments that spiral and revisit skills (BOBs)
FA lets me focus on specific areas for specific students.
So important to meet Ss where they are at!
A2 should not interrupt the flow of lesson, should be meaningful/direct. Exit slips, Red/Green Light, simple thumbs up/down
A2 I use a system of frequent, low-stakes progress checks tied to standards. They are quick ways of knowing who's doing what!
A1 FA also allows us to reflect on our practice & make steps in improving our teaching
Good point Mark... please say more...
1:1 convos w/ students w/ specific expectations addressed at the end & together.
“Good Job” is not feedback
What should the Ss do next time to get good results?
Gear feedback towards goals.
Q2 FA helps me assess learning for a day and play for the next as to reteach or move on.
Absolutely-impacting teaching and learning... A1
FORMative assessment is a use not a label. It is any assessment used to FORM a plan of future learning.
A2: it needs to occur daily and often to check for understanding, meet student needs, and differentiate appropriately
A1: Informing future instruction is critical.
A2: it's challenging. I use it best in a workshop model, as something that both the S and I can sit around & analyze together
but that's not assessment; that's evaluation
A2: Lots of Google Forms, but also some low-tech (e.g. individual whiteboards, colorful index cards) https://t.co/6FI4pKpGuX
A2 FIRST we must be instructionally present & cognizant that kids are telling us what they need ALL DAY!
A2: FA is the starting point for intervention, enrichment, or focused small-groups.
brilliant... working well?
Good, nice, what do they really mean?
YES! And reflection should be ongoing & regular. Best learning happens in the quiet spaces between checkpoints
That would certainly be an interesting conversation to engage in for a sustained period. Lots to consider
So glad you are here, Allison!
A2: use to get input from Ss during lessons. Includes questions that Ts are not covering and adding resources!
quality will move barriers!
Bravo A2 https://t.co/WNFEtFXRFs
A2 I use a system of frequent, low-stakes progress checks tied to standards. They are quick ways of knowing who's doing what!
A2: In ways that meet students' needs and create authentic and engaging learning experiences tech integration offers new opps
I love that term ‘realtime’ Jeremy https://t.co/y3vJolqrSU
A1: formative assessment should help Ts better understand what Ss know/don't in realtime & also inform future instruction.
In my small school learning/teaching is often pupil led and not an assessment sheet in sight
Conferring, exit slips, specific/descriptive feedback, self/peer assessment, redos, checklists ..... https://t.co/GHl7g9J0of
Yes! It must be meaningful and not just a process to follow...
Doesn't quality teaching include feedback/assessment?
A2 Formative assessment drives the instruction. It tells me where a student is performing in relation to the learning target.
A2: Exit cards sorted for small group collaboration. Reflections, graphic organizers, surveys, and conversations work well.
It's time. The finality of "summative" is discouraging.
I'm never surprised by FA.
.......ahhh, vanilla, yes!
Digital formative assessment learning tools:
Giving the most reserved student a voice
A2: individual next steps for Ss & what can I do to help them? What lessons can I create?
A2: this is my goal for next year. Use my FA to move students forward in their learning. I have FA, but want to use it better.
A1) Feedback, Shows progress of where child is at and where to next
So important. We need to individualize instruction for Ss and meet them where they are at.
Formative helps locate where you are and where students are in the journey of learning
A2: also lots of exit tickets to make sure Ss are where we want them to be so Ts can determine where to move next
flexibility! Be ready to adjust if things do not go as planned.
Ts need to gauge reader's intake of info & process they use-formative assessment is the gauge.
... how can it not be included?
Meaningful feedback has NOTHING to do w/stickers, pizza parties, happy faces, grades (or clip up)
so true! Ts can't be overwhelmed by the loud voices
those sound like great ideas. What is Red/Green light? I've heard of the other ones.
Building knowledge together requires effective formative assessment.
Listen/observe Ss
Find valuable learning opportunities
Agree. Otherwise I'm frustrating my Ss and myself.
but quality teaching means/includes ensuring you give Ss the FB they need to grow & develop their skills
Lesson w/in Lessons/results set goals; FA, &students analyze their progress throughout year etc.A2
A2: Exit tickets in diff forms inc technological are easy to use to inform practice. I use 'em with both kids and adults.
A2: I use video/audio recordings; lots of choice w/ tech + conferences galore
One of my fav things about . Involves all stakeholders without punishment (aka grades)
Hoping more & more will include social-emotional progress as well. SEL = as or more important than academics IMHO.
A2 With Ks not only based on language discussion but actions as well to gauge understanding. My watch look & listen paradigm
Yes... very good... how common are these practices at your school?
- always adore being part of the convo with you two :). Sorry for being in and out!
I think part of the def of "quality teaching" is min-by-min assessment
Do T know what to actually do with formative assessment? How are the students involved? Who interprets the results?
A2: Ss drive the next step not standards....slows down the machine and looks and individuals
Quality teaching means engaging meaningfully with pupils without useless workbooks,They learn so much
A2 How we view DATA is key: collect for the sake of collecting vs explore for the sake of understanding.
Reflection is key! FA plays a big part in moving forward & reflecting on instruction.
A2: As a rdg. spec. FA is consistent and guides me every step of the way with assisting my thriving readers.
Love this for Sts &Ts https://t.co/c0BLoIorRo
YES! And reflection should be ongoing & regular. Best learning happens in the quiet spaces between checkpoints
Thanks... and how's that working of you? Students?
So true - and Ss can help to create the tasks - as a way to get even more from FA https://t.co/Rhwm05HLXM
Yes! It must be meaningful and not just a process to follow...
That's the beauty of formative assessment, the possibilities are endless.
Thank YOU! Just don't understand the obsession with badges, candy & grades. Kids love 2 learn-let's empower them
I agree with you, but my school uses summative as a primary source of grading & formatives as 2nd. Hard2handle
Ys Tamra…and the more you do it the more it becomes instructional AIR https://t.co/ILa9np6mky
Agree. Formative assessment in the classroom should be as essential & natural as breathing.
Another reason we love you Jena! https://t.co/u7y6uf0Ifu
Thank YOU! Just don't understand the obsession with badges, candy & grades. Kids love 2 learn-let's empower them
A2: formative assessment is really about ensuring quality learning instead of quantity coverage
A2: Kelly says you can teach more in a 2-min S conference than in a yr's worth of minilessons - I agree. Feedback!
Great tools here for formative assessment!
I agree from what I've read FA helps T's to teach more effectively this benefits Ss development.
Great illustration. An awesome reminder that learning can be unpredictable & messy.
A2: I encourage my teachers to use door passes and quick checks that are tied to standards
I agree, but I don't understand the connection between workbooks and assessment
so agree, if Ss can use it to show their learning...then I will take it.
A2. See where we are wrt success criteria, use info to make sure we are on the path to meetg the learning goal/s & next steps
Amen!! There's no learning if you're not okay. SEL is SO important.
The thing about real reflection= it can't be timed or pressured or graded. Comes from head connecting w/heart.
A3:Ss are involved in FA process by engaging in reflection process. Ss assess themselves as learners & ID areas to grow.
A3: love what is being said about involving Ss in choice of FA!!
So... how often? And offer an example of how you used FA today in class?
Definitely Shelly & extrinsic is only the FACADE of motivation - not the real deal
A3 My Ss can make corrections to progress checks, but they must write in words what they discovered or what they corrected.
FA can be refined so that Ss become increasingly involved - tracking own progress is powerful
so what percent do use passes/check?
A3 Monitoring own progress and reflecting - true partners with teacher in learning!
A3: FA also allows Ss to actively build understanding of new concepts. FA builds Ss skills for learning to learn!
A3: after receiving FB, Ss write a reflection w/ next steps/timeline; kind of like a SWOT
A2 I think where this St is & what might be 1 direction 2 enhance learning. I'm moving towards making this convo more collab
they are the source.The FA is the crumb trail. Students are the Hansel and Gretel.FA tells where to go https://t.co/rtPdzov7AV
It requires time and commitment to go deeper instead of farther. Is there learning without feedback? https://t.co/2zXJcbA2qP
A2: formative assessment is really about ensuring quality learning instead of quantity coverage
Assume all set specific measurable (by FA and observation) objectives ? A2 and A3
. Maybe will share a video from her class. She's a, well, "starr" at this
- me neither! Create a culture of inquiry and fun; rewards become unnecessary.
FA is win-win. Ss have opportunity to self assess personal growth, Guides T decisions for next steps.
A3: Ss must know what the target is, where they are in their path to the target, & what the next step is. FA clarify this
We need to focus on approaches to learning/learning skills. Those are transferable making them more authentic
A3 Student generated Q-of-the-day, self-assessments, exit slips "what could you have done better today?"
very cool... how often dos this occur? What impact?
and a lesson ! A3 https://t.co/Y1qPeNhR3p
FA can be refined so that Ss become increasingly involved - tracking own progress is powerful
works great! We have 2 get the goofy out the 1st few mins, then they are all about the learning
When talking about formative assessment, are we really talking about "assessment"
or
"evaluation"?
https://t.co/e80OFnCGmc
A2: FA should guide instruc./learn. how else can Ss take risks and not be afraid to fail if we are always assigning a grade.
A3 I often use gamification. I put Ss in charge of writing the ?s for several games. As they're "playing," I'm assessing!
A3: also use exit tickets for FA; adjust my instruction.
A3 Without student/teacher involvement with feedback there is no formative use of assessment.
by checking Ss learning I am seeing that my teaching is working
A3: Ss need chances to make changes, relearn, reflect, and redo as they work toward mastery of standards
A3 Students are active participants in their learning.
We love having you with us. In & out, only for a bit. We're still lucky to have your amazing insight. https://t.co/oQcGmwqCyy
- always adore being part of the convo with you two :). Sorry for being in and out!
"formative" assessment should happen every single day.
True because how can we discount what's in the heart. Its not ours to do
A3: Ss have time to edit their work & hand in again for more DF & FA.
Q3: Powerful to have Ss graphing their own progress on concepts and asking Ss to be involved in designing tech projects.
A3: I find workshop model best way to involve student. Also some tech tools like KaizenaHQ that can help
There is no risk w/o consequences.
A3: we allow students to generate questions that reflect their learning for their classmates
A3: - mine tell ME how they learn & we together evaluate their growth... We dissect curriculum together.
A3 John Hattie’s meta-analysis of research shows SELF-EVALUATION as a major achievement player
Yes, they do! Although they are great to leave for supply teachers as busy work, they aren't tools 4 21st C Learning
what is it that you gameify?
A3: it is all about the Ss...where they are, what they know or don't, and what comes next.
A3: At the end of , Ss write down what they did, a question and their next step. Helps me see how to help.
Ooooo can hardly wait to watch. Thank you!
A3: have students develop their own quizzes for eachother
Two to three times a week each week UNLESS we need to slow down for some "acute care." https://t.co/PRFbJd5bBo
very cool... how often dos this occur? What impact?
A2: & I throw brainfor students to catch & give fast answers to questions along w/rationale: shows if they know
thanks Tamra... sounds great, how's that happen in your class?
it's about assessment not the grades; we all need to know the difference
A3 self reflection wrt criteria, shared understanding of +/- of journey, collaborative discussion-next steps, set indiv goals
A3 Assessment/feedback/response. FA requires active student participation. Makes learning visible to the student.
A3 The Sts sitting in front of us are our primary assessment source. Dialogue w/in conferring is HUGE.
A3. Ss need to know that assessment is something they are apart of, not something that is done to them https://t.co/SVzLo1LcBE
class can negotiate measurable objectives each subject area /buy in/&how to assess&monitor prog A3 https://t.co/KGHx0Usloq
A3: Ss should be actively engaged partners in the process, actionable to the next steps and reflective about their growth
Relationship building is key to S growth!
Good point, all students need to participate to be effective!
A3.Students need to lead learning and innovation if we are to go foreward
A3
Ss take ownership of assessment when they decide what makes sense...
IF things make sense...
How effective theirs is...
. Any challenging activity comes with risk of embarrassment, of putting yourself "out there" etc.
A3: I think student goals are also a way to involve students in the FA. The conversation can be about the progress they made.
brilliant discussions. Taxi has arrived. Sad to leave will Check in next time. Heading to student led conferences now.
Thanks Kristen... so how do you do that in your classroom?
There sure are a LOT of dedicated passionate educators who put kids first on. Feeling inspired!
I always learn something from you.
Anything! Ratios, fractions, expressions, multiplicative relationships. All of it! https://t.co/770apDWzed
what is it that you gameify?
assessment is crucial. Should happen daily, but it's not a test.
Yes. Also talks about importance of incremental challenges. Too much Ss give up. Too little bored. Get Ss" input
in comp class...I let them teach each other. Some Ss need instruction in a diff way that another Ss knows
thats a good way to track progress! Then it is coming from the Ss as they evaluate how they understand geniushour?
The root of FORMative means "to shape". If it's not shaping its not formative. Formative assessment must predict instruction
Great tools for formative assessment and they are FUN!!!
Thanks Jim... so how does that actually happen in a classroom?
Sorry I need 2 leave early. Thank you and for hosting this chat
With FA:
Students / Teacher get excited about learning
Students w/ more control & awareness of learning
Nice... how's that working for you?
So that shows that they own their next steps. I am working on some strategies for more of that
students need to know what their targets are and what they need to do to make their specific goal https://t.co/Yqwg7eGr9G
A3: Ss must know what the target is, where they are in their path to the target, & what the next step is. FA clarify this
Hi , Hurisa from Nj, just joining https://t.co/MXz7Idy9dT the topic you are discussing tonight - formative assessments
A3: Meeting with Ss, discussions, peer review, and time for reflection.
I also work it out where scoring requires adding & subtracting integers, and I make Ss keep score ;-) https://t.co/770apDWzed
what is it that you gameify?
Makes you appreciate the complex work we do doesn’t it Jena
This is why SEL=vital. Ss MUST learn self-confidence & be empowered by mistakes not shamed
Totally agree. Assessment has a huge emotional component. Strong trusting relationships required.
LOVE..... https://t.co/HID8Ci34Ar
Learned from 20 yrs ago that the word assessment traces its meaning to the Latin assidere - "to sit beside." Wow
it's about having those convos & observations that make Ss part of it plus keeping a journal
Couldn't agree more. Relationships are everything in learning!
I like that your Ss are goalsetters! A3
Curious ... what's a 'brainfor' ...
A3 This year I had given students the rubric and had them form. assess each other. I will expand & do this more next year!
Q4 In what ways can formative assessment inspire collaboration around students and instruction? https://t.co/zASimldpV1
Q4: In what ways can formative assessment inspire collaboration around Ss & instructional practices? https://t.co/G1MyUn6LjE
A3: Students write most important learning insight for them what they will do differently beyond class as a result.
Yeah. And it really helps me be able to focus on where they need help with .
I agree from my seat at table (retired teacher loves subbing & high on hope w/PLN who care so much) https://t.co/chcTyUQAQE
There sure are a LOT of dedicated passionate educators who put kids first on. Feeling inspired!
I learned SO much researching it. It's fascinating stuff. Humans are hard-wired to learn :-)
I like to ask Ss there thoughts on feedback as well. It allows for them to be in control of learning.
FA should serve as motivation, Ss should want to push forward, not lag behind.
A4 If assessment doesn’t INSPIRE us to reflect on our practices in the interest of kids then why do it?
. the first step to hitting a target is knowing what and where it is. We forget this as T sometimes.
Hi Helen ... cool, how often does that happen?
A4: FA encourages Ss to be problem solvers, collaborating to discover. FA requires Ss to take responsibility for own learning.
A3 Ss who are reflective learners engage positively in reporting what they learned & what their next steps are.
I taught reading to struggling middle school Ss. I had Ss monitor their growth by journaling, drawing, charging
Q4 In what ways can formative assessment inspire collaboration around students and instruction? ... https://t.co/ETuwCRWfqd
Dylan Wiliam refers to FA as: A planned practice to elicit evidence of learning minute to minute, day by day in the classroom
yes, yes, yes... then what?
School is a place where body and mind are changed by each other -- for the better.
Relationships are key. Targeting hinge point in instruction. Students own and track the results.
Awww thx Lori - right back at you! Think we share a passion for Ss and their growth:-) How cool!!! https://t.co/IUhUDICWAL
I always learn something from you.
If anything, being graded increases the risk.
Yes, but also makes me value Ts even more. Ts are the SINGLE most important factor in Ss' success. Cherish them!
So easy. When kids collaborate, they become part of the assessment process. It's a beautiful thing
Exactly like when I won't give an allowance for things my kids should be doing- family contributions
RT https://t.co/cdr3qxPwX6
Respectful push back on the ideas that grades “motivate” students. It’s feedback - not grades - that improves performance.
I taught reading to struggling middle school Ss. I had Ss monitor their growth by journaling, drawing, charting
there's no risk to a traditional grade. It's only a false label.
I love seeing kids teach each other. I have seen it done as young as K with math games
A4 Flexible small group explorations, opportunities to follow student interests, student-selected collaborations
Check out Embedded Formative Assessment by
A4 FA should highlight progress and inspire Ss to push further.
A4: It can help determine what other skills are needed, whether explicit instruc.of whole class, small group or one-on-one...
A4.Lets step away from assessment/testing and focus on quality teaching from the heart
Thanks for joining. Have a great evening.
A4: Ss find other Ss with same ideas, and learning styles, and find ways to work with others
I have a soft brain ball and it's part of how I teach brain based approach:-) Sorry for confusion:-) https://t.co/dOaFgK95FG
looking forward to answer
With relationships that show we care the drive 2succeed based on trust if mishaps occur along the way https://t.co/xMbWQVJ7o5
Couldn't agree more. Relationships are everything in learning!
I LOVE this Kevin. Oh yes please, let’s do! https://t.co/cTC7MYSW0R
A4.Lets step away from assessment/testing and focus on quality teaching from the heart
Thanks Emma... same time next week ->
A4: Ss know the learning goal/success criteria & provide peer feedback; teach communication skills.
A4: the real assessment problem is less about over testing & more about not using the asses. to make instructional decisions.
If u lower consequences u r no longer teaching Ss to take risk. Youre removing risk
Dylan Wiliam is my favorite writer on FA. I think he really covers all the bases.
If you use collaborative protocols to assess your students, S work can become a tool of assessment amongst colleagues. A4
or proposing a learning objective and get the students to think up ways in which they could achieve this
hey Jena - in and out so just got this :) hope you are Super well
A4: Teacher teams can use data to make the best-informed decisions for their Ss
depends on the learning goals and where the Ss take you!
Becoming a parent can change a teachers view
This topic is a passion of mine. Its a learning technique that is not being used to its fullest extent.
A4: but make sure groups change; Ss need to work w/ all their classmates; use tech & social media.
Exactly. Both Ts and Ss need to be reflective about their work in order to move to next steps. A4
A3 Mostly self-assessment though I want to go deeper. I want to help this come more from Ss. Who wants 2 collab next year?
Q4 having Ss to look at each others work and help each other to develop further ideas in ways Ts wud - Ss as Ts to each other
Stopping in, joining the collegial conversation! Rita in Eugene
Makes MY DAY!!!!!!!!! Bravo to you!!!!!!!!! How can we encourage & hear that from all Ss & Ts :-) https://t.co/lNLAgI4zFe
Had a S tell me "I'm really proud of myself" (7yr old reader after seeing her reading score).
they just know how to talk/explain things to each other...LOVE IT
Be sure to connect and follow all of the amazing educators here for today before everyone leaves
on no! He used the "D word" Data driven with the whole child in mind.
A4: Collaboration around Ss? FA should provoke collab between Ss & encourage explore resources & new ideas based on input.
A3: have SS label each answer with a C,U,or G to tell the T if they are confident, unsure, or guessing. More infor for the T
thanks for sharing, look forward to reading more the models and tech tools you recommended.
Sorry taking off again to another meeting - will catch up on the archive very soon! You are all amazing humans!!!!
A4: FA can inspire collaboration when Ss collectively look at their work & provide one another specific feedback.
Check out this chat about formative assessment!
A3 Having Ss to submit work no matter what stage they're at is I think a good place for Ss to start
Too much assessment Too Little Learning
Learning Goals/Success Criteria that students understand are critical to learning...FB needs 2 connect https://t.co/PilizGYBW5
. Formative assessment not so 'data driven' & watch what happens for Ss.
. Call me an "A" there's no risk. Call me an "F" there's no risk. They mean absolutely nothing.
Ss love to teach each other too!
A4 Collaborate with Ss to determine what meeting the standard looks like and set goals for achieving that objective
Formative assessment is more deeply aligned with learning than instruction. T's learn through formative assessment too.
A4 Ss can support one another w/ feedback; cheer each other on; collaborate on Ss made rubrics https://t.co/jwdW1mU2TQ
They mean a LOT, especially to parents.
has been the best parenting tool for me! My kids hate when teacher mommy comes home!
This is such an important point, Noa!
. Students catch rubber brain and tell what they plan to do with what they learned.
It's tough to push the level of risk, but it must be done if we want true progress.
Thinking about our students w/ and how A4 is so important
Agreed. Teachers should be the primary learners in the formative assessment process. https://t.co/Wic7ELtvr3
Formative assessment is more deeply aligned with learning than instruction. T's learn through formative assessment too.
FA is a reminder to constantly check in with our learners, not evaluate them. https://t.co/zdciRPnq6s
. Formative assessment not so 'data driven' & watch what happens for Ss.
Exactly! Ts need to assess how they are teaching and how they can teach better for Ss to understand
A4: Celebrate attempts at learning and all success no matter the size
. So glad to say hello tonight! How's school? Virtual Hugs TY!
Formative assessment is great for collaborative work!
Consequences sounds punitive- Not about punishing but learning from mistakes & WANTING 2 continue 2 try
If Sts see what they do is forever being looked at as a need to assess (FA or CA) wonder what happens to their motivation
that is a great technique. Ss take this so seriously!
A4: FA, when tied to scaffolded learning builds hope by making successful learning visible. Success builds on Success.
Good assessment makes us better teachers Ashleigh! https://t.co/JofStcZxXR
Exactly! Ts need to assess how they are teaching and how they can teach better for Ss to understand
When my kids' parents saw the wealth of feedback and learning for learning's sake, they stopped asking for grades
That is what we need to Ashleigh. Thanks for sending a response.
And...there are so many ways to collect data...qualitatively and quantitatively!
wonderful... please expound for us...
We were out May 19th. Moving schools. Packed everything & took home. Now organizing. (sigh) .
A5:FA impacts reflection, as it provides me w/ info needed to identify current status of S learning, as well as next steps.
for sure "data" has turned into such a dirty word yet when done right it is so valuable
A4.1: S feedback towards one another is focused on improvement.
That is the right term, Mark=>Learning for learning's sake (We need to remember that phrase)
As I've said before, this is purely anecdotal. Your class does not represent all classes. And confirmation bias.
Reflecting on instruction is how we become better and learn how to be better for our Ss
Can't wait to read this. Thanks for sharing.
Where did we get notion Ss will not try if not scared, punished or shamed? NOT the way to motivate or create luv of learning.
. Absolutely. Formative. Time-tested excellence.
So important--instructionally present sends a very clear message! https://t.co/KMqb10NukW
A2 FIRST we must be instructionally present & cognizant that kids are telling us what they need ALL DAY!
Absolutely John so the challenge is to be selective - what truly informs our practices. https://t.co/g0dBn31rW5
And...there are so many ways to collect data...qualitatively and quantitatively!
A5: forces me to reflect on my teaching style & strategies; change up as needed to reach all Ss.
So you're really not teaching Ss to take on risk. You're removing the consequences.
A5 In every possible way! The best lesson plan is sitting I front of us waiting to be written – the CHILD!
We have to educate Ps and the community to help them understand how gauging learning has evolved https://t.co/daTOadT8KI
When my kids' parents saw the wealth of feedback and learning for learning's sake, they stopped asking for grades
. Oh my. So true. Sad. Sad. Sad. Makes me Mad. Mad. Mad.
A5: Reflection is the key to growth-I often look at myself more than Ss. What can I do now to improve where Ss are FA helps
Agree if it is the wrong type of assessment. Good informal FA is happening all the time during instruction.
A5a Formative assessment impacts my reflection process best/most when it’s real-time. Deferred (because of evaluation) muddles
A5 Oh my gosh! Totally! Assessment drives instruction. Instruction requires reflection. Reflection impacts instruction and on!
The three musketeers of formative assessment ->
A5: makes me more aware of why I do things. Much less busy work
:) Evening Mark! Great topic...we have worked hard on this up here :0 Am doing well, how are you?
A5: If learning is the goal, FAs are the ultimate tool to let us know whether or not we as T met our goal for the lesson.
Meet Ss where they are is first and foremost. In addition, collaboration/tech can be an incentive for Ss.
I judge how and what I teach based on Ss' responses & how well they recall and can use what we've covered. Great learning 4 me
A5: If we are to personalize learning for all students to be successful, we need to personalize T PD/teaching for T success
Sorry PLN have to dash off early but will read thru the archive
A4 FA can help guide Ss 2 their next steps. Ts need 2 be courageous 2 do this & sometimes we allow ourselves 2 be pushed down.
A5.Formative assessment influences teaching targets in the year ahead
Can be painful Analyzing data/results/anecdotal observation notes following lesson/then FA can hurt but must A5
A5: did this lesson work, do I need to reteach/to chunk this/to teach pre-req skills/to adapt material https://t.co/bfURd8rR5M
A5 Even formative assessment is only of value if knowledgeable professionals analyze & interpret it (not machines).
A5: It's primary in assessing my teaching. I "count votes" to see who gets it, who I've missed- if a lot, I need a take 2
A5 Continuous learning, always changing to meet student needs, being able to get over my ego and say "that did not work"
A5 If a Ss doesn't do well on the FA then my reflection is on how I can better represent the information for them
. A5: Yes. All kids learn best, differently. Listen. Watch. Ss tell us how to teach them.
LOVE!!! https://t.co/NVJCPgHBsA
A5 In every possible way! The best lesson plan is sitting I front of us waiting to be written – the CHILD!
so is there a better way?
I agree! Reflection needs to be frequent- to cater for different students and modify teaching around their needs
Hi Liz! I've been better...
Without noticing what is happening in the classrm w your learners how can you plan relevant next steps? A5
A5: makes me take the Stu voice into account more...I have to know from Ss how my teaching is, to grow and/or change
A5b Process of evaluating others’ work tends to constrain reflection. In-the-moment formative assessment i can see their work.
And all we have to do is to PAY ATTENTION Rita!
The Ss are how we assess ourselves https://t.co/JciduZmh5i
A5: If learning is the goal, FAs are the ultimate tool to let us know whether or not we as T met our goal for the lesson.
A5. It has a huge impact on our reflection process. It allows us see what works and what doesn't. We learn from it.
Nice point. Learning=fluid & self-reflection & adjustments can be too. We're meddlers in the middle, learning too!
A5 Assessment and reflection are so closely connected for me that my first class often gets a different lesson than my last!
A5c In other words I can sometimes learn new ways of knowing/doing.
Yes! and looks like we have a expert in group A5 https://t.co/vcmPqc6zW0
Meet Ss where they are is first and foremost. In addition, collaboration/tech can be an incentive for Ss.
A5 Reflection: at the end of the day what do I remember about my Sts in whatever way that comes to mind Big challenge at times
A4. I'm Australian. I think Kiwis and US Aussies share a different understanding of formative assessment to others. Thoughts?
FA guides instruction. It informs us when Ss are ready to move on & next steps in learning process. https://t.co/eMw7zbnVO6
Agreed. Teachers should be the primary learners in the formative assessment process. https://t.co/Wic7ELtvr3
Formative assessment is more deeply aligned with learning than instruction. T's learn through formative assessment too.
Risktaking is key to Ss owning their learning as they step out of the box.
So many still believe that, it's mind blowing- if they don't shake in their boots, they aren't learning- crazy
Yes :) kids relate to the simplicity WALT=Learning Goals; WILF=Success Criteria
I tell my Ss the assessment helps me know what I need to teach them.
Yes!! That is it exactly https://t.co/Ses1eUw3Ty
A5: If we are to personalize learning for all students to be successful, we need to personalize T PD/teaching for T success
get over the ego and read what the reflections are saying...it does not work perfectly every time!
Yes! Makes me even madder when people say Ss don't try. Where did they learn? From being force fed & tested. NO fun
I totally tried to communicate the same thing- you articulated it best. Good one!
Unfortunately, I know many Ts who don't want to hear from Ss how they could grow/change/improve.
Ss really love the feedback from experts! We use to connect and the Ss love to ask Qs
Hi All, Scrambling here with a new Android device.
S goal setting is very powerful. Holds Ss accountable for their own learning and motivates.
A5: FA allows Ts to triangulate feedback from S/others/Ts reflection...what needs attention-how-why
A1: Data from FAs should be MEANINGFUL and USED to form differentiated groups that will help Ss achieve the learning goal.
We have to ALL get better at asking for and acting on feedback, even to us about our teaching.
We are artists stepping back and squinting at our canvasses Thanks! Great chat! A5
Got to engage your learners every day.
I’ve never seen anything that works perfectly every time Richard. We can’t look for absolutes
Yes! Infuriating. We stick kids in rooms, make em sit still & force feed facts. We kill their innate luv 4 learning
. You're perceptive & right, for sure.
YES! To ensure that happens - I use MIND-GUIDING (a mutual mentoring approach) on daily basis! Fun! https://t.co/3NMAiuLvps
Agreed. Teachers should be the primary learners in the formative assessment process. https://t.co/Wic7ELtvr3
Formative assessment is more deeply aligned with learning than instruction. T's learn through formative assessment too.
Q6: What are formative assessment tools you're currently using? Please share apps, sites, or tools. https://t.co/mdUCVZZDh0
Q6 What are some formative assessment tools you are currently using? Please share apps, sites, tools. https://t.co/VJz9XmPYJO
A5 Reflection: How can I ensure that a lesson meets the needs of Ss? Formative assessment keep lesson design & pace flexible.
Too much "killing" and "stifling". Need more nurturing and fostering
so sad ☹️. It has been the best change for me...I struggle, but I grow so much! I love to learn from my Ss
True and sometimes asking them what they need from me helps to develop a partnership around the learning
A5: Formative assessment impacts my reflection by thinking about "where to from here?" Want students to learn and do.
Thanks Mark... gotta love technology!
A6 Running records, anecdotal notes, kidwatching: student-inspired instructional queries!
A6: is great for formative assessment.
A2 agree FA should not be confined to academic progression
It also works with Ts in that they are accountable for getting Ss to that goal.
And we need to forgive ourselves as well
Spot on!!! https://t.co/tfQQsqWyuM
Without noticing what is happening in the classrm w your learners how can you plan relevant next steps? A5
I'm w you. I asked my students to do a wkly "response to class" - what was easy,what was hard,how I could help more
A5: FA can show me what works and give me clarity about learning and instruction. Deep understanding requires team colab.
I had Ss design ways they learned best and share with a peer. 1st graders are amazing! Lots of new games .
A6: love for the ability to comment and make work collaborative and ongoing-keys to FA, feedback and growth mindset
A6: Some of the best F assessments are the observations Ts make while circulating the room they give live relevant feedback
I'm using reading, writing & creative activities shared between Ss & Ts globally. Ss SO motivated when get feedback from peers
Love this - use it with teachers!
FA: very powerful tools for teacher reflection provided that teachers interact meaningfully with the data and info
All apps have dedicated Reflection Stage & reports. Tweet if you'd like a discount code or more info. https://t.co/Uk1C02GzHX
. What a topic tonight. Great insights & luv of craft & pedagogy, obvious.
A6: we use it all! If a Stu is willing to learn a tool to show me they have hit the learning goal...then I am ready for it
Hi folks. I got my time zones messed up and am just getting here.
A6: Google Forms, Plickers, kahoot to name a few. Ts in my bldg use a number of apps to get quick feedback!
Thank you! Teaching is about putting the learner first. To do that they must be involved
so true https://t.co/NJJfi1TO0n
A5. It has a huge impact on our reflection process. It allows us see what works and what doesn't. We learn from it.
A3. Formative assessment is an antagonist to drip-feed instruction. .
One time a S said that a party w cake would help them all learn. This was 9th grade. Ha.
A6 I think we’ve lost the art of KIDWATCHING. Sometimes the best assessment is QUIET NOTICINGS!
Thank you , & 4 engaging convo.
A6: huge fan of to provide feedback on SS writing.
Oh yes. We are byproducts of the old industrial model after all :-)
A6: Kahoot, nearpod, quizziz, socrative; Google Forms
A6: Kahoot for fun and engaging class FA-with ability to download results for specific Ss
Growth-Mindset, it's not just a buzz-word
. A6: Ts walking the room get best data imaginable, formative-wise. I love anecdotal. Observation.
Engaging Ss in conversation is so important...This is formative assessment at its finest!!! https://t.co/pqxl0vBHJn
Formative is about making learning transparent. Observing work and engaging kids in ongoing conversations
A6 use VLE (Moodle) to post Q’s to check Ss understanding - these are recorded.
A4: FA should include reflection for the S & immediate feedback from the T. This helps the student set goals and move forward.
As a teaching Principal I spend all day in our new STEAM Room
I've been doing a whole bunch of lunch & learns & Ts love it!
Your insight was greatly missed. I love learning from you.
The magic of eyeball to eyeball Trey! https://t.co/bG112bkmAK
agreed. few things give you as much information as sitting across from them while they work.
did they make it, or buy it? The HS stu do push boundaries a little more...
How so Trey? Can you elaborate a bit further? Any examples? https://t.co/RIx4HfmS1j
A6: is great for formative assessment.
Thank you and for leading such an inspirational chat - you guys are amazing & I owe you so much!
. but I always prefer the soup the next day, reheated. What would that be?
Thanks Angela. I will try to be on time next time.
It is also important that schools agree on a common definition of FA reinforcing it across all district and school.
A6: Building Outside the Blocks projects, espceially tri-BOBs are three-parters that are iterative & designed to build from FA
Incredible chat tonight . TY Mark & Debbie. You ROCKED it!
Conversation=perfect word. Not talking down, lecturing or imparting wisdom but engaging, listening, responding.
A6: Kaizena is another great tool for feedback and Ss can initiate convos on own learning-great way to make learning a process
Thanks for another great chat; one of my faves!
Self-eval allows Ss to build self-esteem.Ss SEE progress & recognize areas in need of improvement. https://t.co/uVZFTAaXIO
A3 John Hattie’s meta-analysis of research shows SELF-EVALUATION as a major achievement player
They wanted me to bring cake! I did NOT. Handed that response back w a "yeah right" to the S. He was a great kid.
Often it doesn't even do that. Why risk anything if you are being compared 2 & judged? Ick
A6 Thumbs up/thumbs down, ; ; conferring w/ Ss, exit tickets, class Twitter-Tweet out a new understanding
Awesome chat tonight and ! Thanks for your efforts and leadership!
embed Qs into the presentation to check for understanding.include links for further instruction for struggling Ss
Thanks this was AWESOME! And now I have tools to explore this summer!
What Mary said. Thank you for continuing to push the boundaries.
Thank you and PLN So much to review & digest. Memorable teachers make an impact we can't imagine
So true. It has to be used well. FA is central to a successful PLC.
