#NT2T Archive

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Saturday January 26, 2019
9:00 AM EST

  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:00 AM EST
    Welcome to #Nt2t! Today’s topic is self-directed, or self-regulated, learning. Questions for today’s chat are here & on the photo cards. Today @hturk139 will be moderating. It may help to open @hturk139’s profile in a new window or a new column in TweetDeck. #NT2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:00 AM EST
    Welcome to #NT2t Joshua! Happy to ave you here this morning! #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:00 AM EST
    Welcome. I'm another member of the moderating team! Looking forward to today's chat. #nt2t
    • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:00 AM EST
      Welcome to #Nt2t! Today’s topic is self-directed, or self-regulated, learning. Questions for today’s chat are here & on the photo cards. Today @hturk139 will be moderating. It may help to open @hturk139’s profile in a new window or a new column in TweetDeck. #NT2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:01 AM EST
    We’re using Q1, A1, Q2, A2 (question 1/answer 1) format. Please include the A and number (A1, A2, etc.), and include #NT2t in your response so it becomes part of the conversation. If you have any problems, tweet @JeremyDBond @seni_bl @stephwurking @hturk139 or @shyj for help.
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:01 AM EST
    Thanks for dedicating your time to us! #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:02 AM EST
    Most importantly - don’t be afraid to have side conversations or just say hello! #NT2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:02 AM EST
    Hello Everyone! I am Julie, co-founder of #NT2t. I work in higher ed and live in Missouri, USA. I don't make resolutions so they are going well!
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:02 AM EST
    Hey All. Stopping in for a bit to learn about a pretty enormous topic in #nt2t
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:02 AM EST
    Good morning! My name is Madison Morrow and I’m an elementary education major at the University of Oklahoma. I’m excited to be here with you all to discuss self-directed learning. #nt2t
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:02 AM EST
    Hi! I'm keagan abels, and I'm an elementary education major. I'm #nt2t and am hoping to learn a lot about education and twitter!
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    So glad you're here, Keagan! #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    My name is Joshua Mize and I'm studying Digital Communication in Education with @ghartman and this is my first time participating in a Twitter Chat. Looking forward to the discussion! #nt2t #LUlearns
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    Welcome, Marvelous Madison! ;) #nt2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    Please make sure you introduce yourself and say hello! Lurking is learning, but we love to say hello! #NT2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    You'll figure it out in a couple of minutes. ;) Thanks for stopping in! #nt2t
    In reply to @hartel30
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
    Good Morning everyone in the #nt2t chat. I'm a Technology Coach near Chicago, and taking a class on Social Media for grad school. Looking forward to this great topic and my 2nd Twitter chat. #Twitterchat #SelfDirectedLearning
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
    Introduction: Time to introduce yourself! Tell us your name, where you are from, your role, and what how your new year resolutions are going. #Nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
    Hey John! Can't wait to learn with you thins morning! #NT2t
    In reply to @hartel30
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
    Good morning! I'm Sydney Warrick and I'm studying elementary education at the University of Oklahoma! I'm #nt2t and I'm excited to be on here learning more about self-directed learning!!
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
    Good morning Madison and thanks for being here. Are you learning about self-directed learning in your classes? #NT2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
    Welcome to the wonderful world of Twitter chats and to #nt2t both are great!
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @ghartman
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    The second time's a charm! Thanks for being here today, Eric. #nt2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    Good morning Keagan and welcome to #NT2t I'm looking forward to learning with you this morning. Is self-directed learning part of your curriculum?
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    Welcome, Sydney! #nt2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    I actually was doing a bit of reading beforehand to make sure what I was thinking was the right track #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • stormeducation Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    Hi #nt2t, Peter from an educational software publishers in England. Looking forward to this interesting chat
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:05 AM EST
    Welcome Joshua and hello Gina! It's been along time! #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @ghartman
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:06 AM EST
    Good morning to you as well Eric and welcome to #NT2t my neighbor to the north! I am heading north on Sunday. Could you warm it up a bit please?
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:06 AM EST
    Would love to know more about what you're learning in digital communication! Hope you learn something here today as well. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @ghartman
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:07 AM EST
    Head up to WI on Sunday. Right now it's -11 with -20 windchill. Staying warm isn't possible! #NT2t
    In reply to @hartel30
  • stormeducation Jan 26 @ 9:07 AM EST
    #nt2T, my New Years Resolutions are to pay attention in dance class and learn lots of new moves, and loose 5kg ...
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:08 AM EST
    God morning to you Sydney! Welcome to #NT2t. Hopefully you are warmer in OK than we are in MO.
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:08 AM EST
    Were you on the right track? This would be a great topic for #edcampSTL #NT2t
    In reply to @hartel30, @JeremyDBond
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:08 AM EST
    LOL...thanks! #NT2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
    Q1: Let’s make sure we’re all on the same page. How do you define self-directed/self-regulated learning? What are the key elements of this style of teaching? What examples of self-directed/self-regulated learning have you experienced? #Nt2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
    WOW. Where are you now again? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hartel30
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
    Welcome! I was an elem major in school as well, when I started Twitter chats. Great to have you join us! #nt2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    A1: More info on self-directed learning "A Pedagogic Framework for Developing Self-Directed Learning" https://t.co/9m8dCCdHw8 #NT2t
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    Somewhat yes.... seemed the definition was slightly different for post secondary than k-12 but that stands to reason #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @JeremyDBond
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    Welcome! Glad to have more elementary folks! #nt2t #elemchat
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    We are in Missouri but I'm heading up to Milwaukee. It's supposed to get even colder there next week! #NT2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @hartel30
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    A1: #SelfDirectedLearning is students having choice and control over the topic, product, and possibly even the process (though I'm still a bit of a control freak with the process.) #nt2t #Twitterchat
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    That's terrific Keagan! I'm looking forward to learning from you! #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:10 AM EST
    Didn't realize it even gets that cold in Missouri! #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hartel30
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:11 AM EST
    A1: Here is some good reading about self-regulation: "What is Self-Regulation? Definition, Theory + 95 Skills and Strategies" https://t.co/1g3g4syck8 #NT2t
  • stormeducation Jan 26 @ 9:11 AM EST
    A1. Can it not be anything a student does by themselves, without needing a formal structure or teacher #nt2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:11 AM EST
    So awesome to see all the #elementary education students here! I always feel outnumbered as one of the few elementary voices. :D #nt2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:12 AM EST
    Certainly the concept can be that broad. This will help explore specifically how it's applied. #nt2t
    In reply to @stormeducation
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:12 AM EST
    Thanks for the resource, @shyj! #nt2t
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:12 AM EST
    And MO has been cold enough (about to get colder) guess it's all relative. Saw FL was going to have temps in 50s and advising ppl to dress in layers 😁 #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @JeremyDBond
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:12 AM EST
    Hello, Jeremy Bond! #nt2t
    • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
      Welcome, Marvelous Madison! ;) #nt2t
      In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:12 AM EST
    That makes sense. Just think though, if it was started in elementary how amazing it could be by high school. #NT2t
    In reply to @hartel30, @JeremyDBond
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:13 AM EST
    A1: I think of self-directed learning as learning by doing. In the classroom, I've experienced it when teachers assigned individual essay projects, and I had to research on my own to gather facts, learn how to present those facts, and then present them well. Hi again, #nt2t.
    In reply to @hturk139
  • MeadowbrookEle Jan 26 @ 9:13 AM EST
    agree! #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hartel30, @JeremyDBond
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:13 AM EST
    Hello, Jeremy! #nt2t
    • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:03 AM EST
      Welcome, Marvelous Madison! ;) #nt2t
      In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:13 AM EST
    A1: As a grad student I've experienced #SelfDirectedLearning mostly in choice menus and selection of tech tools to present. As a teacher I've used #geniushour, choose your own adventure, choice menus, gamification. #nt2t
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:13 AM EST
    A1. From what I can tell there are 2 big keys. Ss decide what/when/how to learn and Ss self assess if/how much they're learning and adjust #NT2t
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:14 AM EST
    Hi Julie! Yes, we are talking about self-directed learning in my classes. I am hoping to get some better grasps on it this morning, and also share what I have learned so far! #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
    A1. I think that self-directed/self-regulated learning is giving your students the opportunity to have a say in what they're learning whether that's through the pace, procedure, and topics at hand #nt2t
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
    I like that thought. When a student has to figure things on their own, they form opinions and convictions on their own. It helps boost self confidence, and gives them the ability to defend their stance. #nt2t
    In reply to @stormeducation
  • MyriahaS Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
    #nt2t Hello, sorry to add this a few minutes late..trying to figure this whole thing out. Twitter virgin here. Im a high school Biology teacher and was wondering if Self Directed was applicable to flipped classrooms?
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
    I think of MO as the "south" even though you're all right next to Illinois. And not too far from my sister in Iowa and I know how cold that gets! #nt2t
    In reply to @hartel30, @shyj
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
    A1: #selfdirectedlearning is where individual students take ownership and responsibility of their learning. So I'm guessing students have intrinsic motivation regarding education? #nt2t
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:16 AM EST
    A1b: Choice boards, PBL and or genius hour would fit these goals #nt2t
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:16 AM EST
    Happy to be here! We are learning about self-directed learning in my courses but I can’t wait to explore the topic more today! I personally like the idea of having a teaching partnership with students and letting them have independence in choosing curriculum. #nt2t
    • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:04 AM EST
      Good morning Madison and thanks for being here. Are you learning about self-directed learning in your classes? #NT2t
      In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:16 AM EST
    Well said. It can start small and anywhere, though, correct? I mean, it can be as basic as giving students a list of topics from which they can choose which to work on. #nt2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:16 AM EST
    Look at any baby and I see intrinsic motivation for learning! #nt2t
    • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:15 AM EST
      A1: #selfdirectedlearning is where individual students take ownership and responsibility of their learning. So I'm guessing students have intrinsic motivation regarding education? #nt2t
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:17 AM EST
    That’s awesome. Excited to be here! #nt2t
    • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
      Welcome! I was an elem major in school as well, when I started Twitter chats. Great to have you join us! #nt2t
      In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:17 AM EST
    A1: I am piloting PBL in my World History classes and I see it when the students see value in what they are learning. #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:17 AM EST
    Good morning Myriaha and welcome to #NT2t Please reach out if you have any questions or need help with Twitter! I think self-directed learning and flipped could be complimentary to each other if carefully managed.
    In reply to @MyriahaS
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:18 AM EST
    The weather in the north of MO near IA and NE is certainly more brutal than in STL... got stuck in a blizzard on first trip through NW MO... don't get those here much #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @shyj
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:18 AM EST
    That is an excellent visual! My son is 2 years old and so willing to figure things out, from controlling the tv to getting the snacks off the counter. #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:18 AM EST
    Yes! I think you're right. Especially for me in elementary, I think starting with the basics is important. It can help prepare students for more interactive learning later on in the secondary grades! #nt2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:18 AM EST
    Good to see you again Narmadhaa! I agree, I think of that as a form of self-directed learning (even back in the 'olden' days they had aspects of it). It is so interesting to see how it continues to grow and give students more independence and ownership of their learning! #nt2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:19 AM EST
    Nice. PBL can be a parallel discussion, for sure. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:19 AM EST
    Love this Sydney. The thing that sticks in my mind is that kids are going to need to develop some specific skills beforehand so they know how to make decisions about their learning. #NT2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:19 AM EST
    I also guess it goes without saying, but what we're all doing now falls under self-directed learning... #NT2t
  • cybraryman1 Jan 26 @ 9:20 AM EST
    Our helpful pages for this #nt2t chat: Self Directed Learning https://t.co/qhyfJ4BOwK Personalized Learning & Student Agency https://t.co/ahtg10fsLd #GeniusHour - Self-Determined https://t.co/xwOV7fEVMm Learning pages https://t.co/V5f9KI642W #edchat #nt2t
  • assignmenthelp Jan 26 @ 9:20 AM EST
    3 Ways to Effectively Deal with Stress https://t.co/4usKYGrLlP #catholicedchat #Nt2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:20 AM EST
    Oof! Well, I enjoyed checking out the landscape for the first time this past September (when it was unusually hot, in the 90s!) #nt2t
    In reply to @hartel30, @shyj
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:20 AM EST
    That's great Madison! Is self-directed learning being used by your instructors as you take your own courses? Would be great if it was so you can see how it feels as a student. #NT2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:21 AM EST
    Q2: What are the benefits of self-directed learning? What are the drawbacks? #NT2t
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:21 AM EST
    A1. In chapter 2 of the book, The Passionate Teacher, by Robert Fried, there is a great example of self-regulated learning that involves students choosing the curriculum for their home economics class. They were super motivated to learn what they had chosen to! #nt2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:21 AM EST
    Just laugh it all off as learning! #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:21 AM EST
    I completely agree! It's important to me to make them comfortable not only in my classroom, but with the concept as a whole as well and develop those skills necessary to choose their learning. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:21 AM EST
    Do you think that motivation would hold for other subjects like math or english, Keagan? #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:22 AM EST
    A2: Here is some good information "Getting Started With Self-Directed Learning (SDL) – Featuring A Case Study" https://t.co/E8Cyqu69Li #NT2t
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:22 AM EST
    I'd be interested to see how that could be worked in while still trying to meet standards and state testing prep. That's something I definitely need to ponder. #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:22 AM EST
    Keagan! I just read this! I loved the script between the author and the students and it was so easy to see that they were not only enjoying what they were learning but retaining it as well. #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:23 AM EST
    That makes sense. I don't think we can just show up one day and say, "Hey, today we are going to start to be a self-directed learning classroom." That would lead to chaos. #NT2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:23 AM EST
    A2. Increased motivation, better personal learning outcomes for pros. Cons are could take longer, required content may not get covered, some Ss not prepared for or interested in the learning style #NT2t
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:23 AM EST
    Good to be back, Hannah. Glad you mention the olden days. Going further back, we had this from the Gurukula period. Students lived with the teacher and learnt through everyday tasks. The teacher wouldn't spoon-feed, but give vague directions the students had to interpret. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM EST
    I'll try to explain that to my wife and see how it goes. Haha!!! #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM EST
    I really like that idea, and the philosophy behind it. Not sure how well that would go over in modern day USA though! #nt2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM EST
    Definitely! Especially in an english class, where students can be given the opportunity choose the books they read, and possible discussion questions. This would keep them engaged in the lessons at hand, while being given the freedom to learn the lit they want to experience #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM EST
    A2) Students should be learning how to learn, and directing their learning facilitates that. A drawback is having to make double-sure that they're still meeting learning goals... which we'll explore more... #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:24 AM EST
    Hey Narmadhaa, so glad to see you! That is fascinating to me! How many students would live with the teacher? #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM EST
    I agree! It was so special to see a positive interaction between students and their curriculum! #nt2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM EST
    As parent to an almost 2 year old...intrinsic motivation for learning is a blessing and curse. O.o #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM EST
    A2. Similar to what @AbelsKeagan said about The Passionate Teacher book, self-directed learning helps to motivate students to learn. Since they have a choice and a say, they are not only enjoying learning but retaining the information as well. #nt2t
  • stormeducation Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM EST
    A2. I would see the advantage is its flexibility, the student can start and stop when they want. But the disadvantage is in knowing how to do it, and what happens if the student gets stuck #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:25 AM EST
    What I really wonder is how to teachers keep up? If you have a class of 25, that's a lot to manage! Any insights to this? #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:26 AM EST
    A1: Self-directed learning is the freedom for students to be able to determine different components of their learning, such as curriculum, assessments, etc. Students get to choose what and how they’ll learn with guidance from a teacher. I’ve done this before by having #nt2t
    • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
      Q1: Let’s make sure we’re all on the same page. How do you define self-directed/self-regulated learning? What are the key elements of this style of teaching? What examples of self-directed/self-regulated learning have you experienced? #Nt2t
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:26 AM EST
    A2: I would say the benefit is greater engagement by students because they are motivated. My drawback is knowing how to manage the "self-direction" for 24-30 students at one time in a classroom. I'm new to this idea and eager to learn because its such a big part of PBL. #nt2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    So true! If the teacher could focus more on the 'teaching how to learn', I feel like there would be more growth overall. But largely we are focusing on 'teaching to the standard', so time is short for other explorations. #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    Ha, yes! Although the concept is wonderful, it's rather impractical in our modern society. Boarding schools may have tried to retain some of its essence, but some have also gone way out of line. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    That's why my favorite ages are 2-4 years old. Kids are absolute sponges! Our job as parents is to let them explore while keeping them safe. Why not carry that on to school? #NT2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    In India it is quite common to have a class of 40-50 students with just one Teacher without an assistant teacher. #NT2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    A2. A drawback to this, however, could be a very scattered classroom if it is not executed well or practiced quite enough. It would also be a bit difficult when trying to tackle enough standards in the process. #nt2t
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
    A1: the freedom to choose different literature to read with various topics I’m studying. #nt2t
    • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:26 AM EST
      A1: Self-directed learning is the freedom for students to be able to determine different components of their learning, such as curriculum, assessments, etc. Students get to choose what and how they’ll learn with guidance from a teacher. I’ve done this before by having #nt2t
      • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:09 AM EST
        Q1: Let’s make sure we’re all on the same page. How do you define self-directed/self-regulated learning? What are the key elements of this style of teaching? What examples of self-directed/self-regulated learning have you experienced? #Nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM EST
    OH MY GOODNESS!!! So I am assuming the classes are very teacher-directed? #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM EST
    In reading it would require T conferring a lot with Ss and Ss knowing how to discuss and digest literature with peers. Would likely mean a lot of up front scaffolding #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM EST
    Chris from Bloomington, IN checking into #nt2t late. I teach world history for a private online HS affiliated w/ Indiana University.
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM EST
    Now if we could only convince teachers to give up some control and their prescribed curriculum! #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:28 AM EST
    Great point! I think giving a choice of books would help this situation, while still giving students the freedom to learn from the book they choose. There could be maybe 3 choices, and 3 different book discussions where students can make questions #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:29 AM EST
    Oh yes, as a stay at home mom/teacher, I love this stage! If I had the time in the classroom to let student's explore with a purpose, I absolutely would. I also feel that I now know better about the 'micro skills' kids develop through play/exploration (observing my one). #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:29 AM EST
    Knocking on wood, but so far the curses are minimal. Ha! Seeing him figure things out is so much fun and amazing at the same time. This gives me a better understanding of a reachable goal for my classroom students. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:29 AM EST
    wow! that would be complicated! #nt2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @shyj
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    Hi, Julie. It was an ancient Indian system, and from what I've heard in stories, a teacher would have 20-30 students. But we're not talking about comfortable living conditions—they'd sleep in open dorms, cook for themselves, and serve the teacher in exchange for wisdom. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    Then you're in the right place! Worth discussing the added challenge of self-direction with the more kids you have (40! whoa.) At the same time... does anyone think it can help MORE the more kids you have? Once it's well established? #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    Hmmm....I wonder what the "sweet spot" for choices would be. So many kids hate to read the way it is. Could options like magazines or "how to" manuals be allowed? #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    This would be so amazing. I'm going to have to let that sink in and really question the "why not" for this. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    A2: Drawback: Not all students are self-starters. Some need a constant nudge in the right direction to keep them motivated. Benefit: Students will develop their own opinions without anyone else's interference. That's an immense confidence-booster. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:30 AM EST
    Yes! I definitely feel that being able to observe my one child discovering and learning through exploration/play has made me realize what students can learn through similar methods. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • MyriahaS Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    #nt2t A1: Students given task or goal to complete within timeline; teacher is there to help guide them along the different pathways they can take to get there? Maybe
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    It's amazing how having your own "little" changes things! #NT2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    Absolutely but gauging student learning levels and breaking down teaching according to their speeds also become a very big challenge for Ts. #NT2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    A2: Benefits of #SelfDirectedLearning: student ownership, engagement, teacher as facilitator. Drawbacks: More planning up front. Teacher having to be comfortable letting go of control. #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    So not a lot of physics or AP Calculus then? ;) #nt2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @shyj
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:31 AM EST
    At what age did it start Narmadhaa? This is so interesting to me. #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:32 AM EST
    Valuable point to ponder. Reading in my World History class sometimes can be a struggle. Especially when trying to implement primary source reading. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:32 AM EST
    Two-year-olds fall and get up... what, 100 times a day? How many of us can say that? #nt2t
    • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:27 AM EST
      That's why my favorite ages are 2-4 years old. Kids are absolute sponges! Our job as parents is to let them explore while keeping them safe. Why not carry that on to school? #NT2t
      In reply to @hturk139, @Mister_Mize, @JeremyDBond
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM EST
    Q3: Implementing self-directed learning at any grade level requires being intentional. How do we introduce this concept in a way that avoids mass chaos? Does grade level matter when using this approach? #NT2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM EST
    It makes me think all the time. It just kills me when I see kids as young as 5-6 lose their love for learning/wonderment/curiosity as soon as they hit school and things are forced on them It's just wrong. #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM EST
    Not to mention digital reading that's more interactive... #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM EST
    Maybe have a team of teachers for groups that large? I don't know how I would manage that many kids at once. #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • MsJillianBlount Jan 26 @ 9:33 AM EST
    A2: self-directed learning can allow students to move at a pace that they feel comfortable with, and can give them freedom to choose what they learn about. However, some students do not thrive well outside of structured-ness, and could get off task or behind easily. #nt2t
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
    Yes it does possible a challenge but in the bigger cities the Ts manage. In the rural areas not so sure. #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @shyj
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
    I want to give more control to the students, but definitely feel hesitant with all the demands put on me and worried we won't meet certain goals I have to reach. #nt2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
    A1: Benefits of self-directed learning include students being interested in their curriculum because they chose it. The teacher can also learn their learning desires and interests. Students will be more confident in classroom settings that include their own interests. #nt2t
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
    Definitely not! Not in theory, at least. :) They prioritised life skills, meditation, and philosophy. That's another reason it wouldn't work in modern society—they led simple lives. We now have a lot of competition. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @shyj
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
    A2. I think the benefit to self directed learning is the is the self interest it generates in the students. The drawbacks can be the lack of teacher/student relationship, as I had a teacher who told me to "google" any question I had. My peers and I had no support from him:( #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM EST
    A3: Here is what NOT to do... "Brooklyn school students boycott self-directed learning program" https://t.co/m1Pw2L1NkB #NT2t
  • classcatalyst Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM EST
    Interested in an SEL tool that WORKS? Follow @classcatalyst - its been designed to give S's and T's a way to raise awareness of their emotional needs and the tools to get themselves ready-to-learn. Here about the movement at #CEC2019 January 30 in Indy #Nt2t #leadupchat
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM EST
    A3. I believe that it's important to ease the concept into your classroom. You could start with something as easy as giving students a variety of books for literacy and allow them to choose which ones they would like to read and go from there! #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM EST
    Yeah, as a high school student I hated history. I was forced to read, memorize, then forget. I got through but learned absolutely nothing. #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:35 AM EST
    Q2: Another roadblock teachers face is curriculum demands. Teacher feel that they may not be teaching (or perceived as teaching) the standards if they don't have a teacher-centered one-size-fits all approach. #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    A3: Interesting read "How to Encourage Self-Directed Learning Practices in Students" https://t.co/yz2GiZCfuX #NT2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    Some days I feel like I bang my head against a wall 100 times a day! :-) #NT2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    Q2: Another roadblock teachers face is curriculum demands. Teacher feel that they may not be teaching (or perceived as teaching) the standards if they don't have a teacher-centered one-size-fits all approach. #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    My son's school had 1100 k10 students with just 2 divisions for each grade. And this is one of the better schools of the city albeit run by Jesuits. #NT2t
    In reply to @MyriahaS, @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    A2: Another roadblock teachers face is curriculum demands. Teacher feel that they may not be teaching (or perceived as teaching) the standards if they don't have a teacher-centered one-size-fits all approach. #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    WOW Pranav! I just can't imagine that! #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @MyriahaS, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    Cautionary tale. Does anyone think we won't always need teachers guiding the way? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:36 AM EST
    Early, as far as I know. But since it wasn't an examination-based learning system, they had kids of all ages—some as early as 5. And they'd stay for as long as necessary. Some even stay on to become teachers themselves. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:37 AM EST
    How do we combat that with all the standards we have to meet and percentage goals for students passing? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:37 AM EST
    That sounds more like someone collecting a paycheck than fostering SDL. I wonder if relationships wouldn't be stronger as T needs to be speaking 1:1 w Ss more to be a partner in the learning. #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:37 AM EST
    Q2: Benefits of self-directed learning include students being interested in their curriculum because they chose it. The teacher can also learn their learning desires and interests this way. Students will be more confident in classroom settings that value their choices. #nt2t
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:37 AM EST
    A3. I do think grade level matters when this approach is used. A high school student is going to grasp this way of learning a little quicker than an elementary student which emphasizes my previous point of easing in depending on how your class responds! #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:37 AM EST
    So are classrooms mainly teacher-directed Pranav? Gosh I would love to visit and observe! #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:38 AM EST
    Fascinating! And comparatively as adults, I wonder who fairs better? #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:38 AM EST
    Are there any implications for a teacher who strays away from the prescribed curriculum? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:38 AM EST
    Some of the newer private schools with larger funding, much steeper fees do have twin T approach with smaller classes. But the number of these type of schools is limited and mainly in large urban metropolis cities like Mumbai etc. #NT2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:38 AM EST
    So important to put it in the proper perspective. It should enhance learning, not replace teaching. #SelfDirectedLearning #LearnLAP #nt2t
    • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:34 AM EST
      A2. I think the benefit to self directed learning is the is the self interest it generates in the students. The drawbacks can be the lack of teacher/student relationship, as I had a teacher who told me to "google" any question I had. My peers and I had no support from him:( #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:39 AM EST
    I don't think it has to be "teachers" but an adult who acts as a mentor/coach. Right now, as a society, I don't see that happening for a long time. #NT2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:39 AM EST
    In my world history courses, Ss select a historical theme or essential question as their lens through which to study the past. Keeps them engaged & makes content more relevant for them. SSs still read primary & sec sources & still find them challenging but no memorization. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    I definitely think that options in types of literature should be allowed. To add on to that, even graphic novels could be added to your idea of magazines, maybe for my elementary kiddos something such as Times for kids. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @Mister_Mize
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    I keep telling you that you must plan a visit. #NT2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    This is just fascinating! I really wonder how that model would work today. #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    We could do a whole chat on that. And on my own love of learning being quashed... but that's more of a blog post than a chat! #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @shyj, @hturk139
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    In my district yes! We are so data driven that it forces us into a box. We have creative reign inside that box, but can't stray outside of it. #nt2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:40 AM EST
    Get rid of the standards :-) #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:41 AM EST
    Yes, there are major implications, including holding on to their jobs, in many, many districts. #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @AbelsKeagan
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    Q4: Implementing self-directed learning at any grade level requires being intentional. How do we introduce this concept in a way that avoids mass chaos? Does grade level matter when using this approach? #NT2t
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    Q2: Drawbacks can include issues with self-discipline and time management. Teachers are able to provide motivation and reinforcement for students that struggle to learn at their own pace with different theories but self-directed learning has a more hands-off approach. #nt2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    I bet you don't still hate history. What do we do as adults that make our learning enjoyable? And why can't we let kids do that? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    Is there any interest in changing this model overall Pranav? #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    Yes, I've loved the rise of the graphic novel in recent years. A great way to get kids interested...but only if it is a choice! #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @shyj, @Mister_Mize
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
    Alas, we may never know! They learnt to tell time by looking at the sun. They implemented math in everyday life by counting the firewood used for cooking, and physics by observing the effect of magnetic poles on their bodies. We have the internet to tell us that. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM EST
    A4: This is a great example of how self-directed learning can work. Pay attention to the prereq skill students needed: "Why Self-Directed Learning Is Important for Struggling Students" https://t.co/GFEFWiZSwv #NT2t
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM EST
    Hmm... the different experiences of new teachers in different parts of the world, and at different times in history... would make for another interesting chat! #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM EST
    Disastrously, I'd assume. Parents would be horrified, to say the least. :) #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM EST
    You hit on something here Madison. The drawbacks you mentioned I think are self-inflicted. Self-discipline and time management must be mastered before you head into self-directed learning. #NT2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM EST
    Just saw this! Howdy, Chris! #nt2t
    In reply to @CHitch94
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM EST
    A3: I think grade level matters. Part of me thinks it would work better in elementary if introduced for the first time because of how middle and high school students have been classically trained. #nt2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:44 AM EST
    I wonder if this isn't why SDL sometimes gets a bad rep. There is a big difference between being self-directed (under the guidance of a teacher) and being self-taught! #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM EST
    You brought up something that is vital with self-directed learning Chris, starting with an essential question. I don't think many teachers understand them, much less how to create one. I was an Intel trainer and they did an amazing job with this. #NT2t
    In reply to @CHitch94, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM EST
    I dunno... vague statements we have to interpret sounds like modern-day marriage... #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @s_narmadhaa
  • brianrozinsky Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM EST
    Jumping in from a neighboring Tweetdeck column: One glimpse of teachers across time that I learned from can be found in _Teacher Wars_ by Dana Goldstein. #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @shyj, @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM EST
    Though I think that teacheres using graphic novels intentionally as sources & modeling using them can help combat the (mistaken) impression some have of graphic novels as "less than" traditional novels/texts. #nt2t
    • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:42 AM EST
      Yes, I've loved the rise of the graphic novel in recent years. A great way to get kids interested...but only if it is a choice! #nt2t
      In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @shyj, @Mister_Mize
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:45 AM EST
    Totally agree! And hopefully your school has money to provide these resources. #NT2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @Mister_Mize
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    Hmm, it's sad that we have to stifle personal growth that way. Do you think that the regulations are outdated, and not revising them for the modern child's learning capacity is hurting future generations? #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    I know...I know....it's on my bucket list! :-) #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    Thanks! Because the next question in my mind was, "Ok, but who actually has some broad knowledge about this?" #nt2t
    In reply to @brianrozinsky, @shyj, @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    Let's add it to our list Jeremy! #NT2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @Mister_Mize, @hturk139
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    I would love to hear more about this and how you structure it. Could I pick your brain later? #nt2t
    In reply to @CHitch94, @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    Interesting that you would say elementary is a good age. I struggled with doing self-directed things with my 1st graders because, well, they are 6 and have little interest in traditional subjects quite yet. Disclosure: I was a 1st year T trying to figure it all out. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:46 AM EST
    I tend to agree with you. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:47 AM EST
    Thanks for sharing that, Brian! Should be an intriguing read. #nt2t
    In reply to @brianrozinsky, @JeremyDBond, @shyj, @hturk139
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:47 AM EST
    But I absolutely agree with you that if this is going to become the norm, it needs to start with the youngest kids. The older ones are too used to 'tell me what to do and I'll do it'. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:47 AM EST
    I love it now because I get to visit places or watch PBS programs that brings all of that history to life. I see how it fits and can make connections to what is happening today. #NT2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:48 AM EST
    Sigh......yes, we do. #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:48 AM EST
    I'm reminded of the projects kids do for @NationalHistory Day. My daughter's and her friend's joint project for @CTHistoryDay was certainly self-directed. We need that kind of opportunity in a range of subjects. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @CHitch94, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan, @NationalHistory, @CTHistoryDay
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:48 AM EST
    LOL!!!!! #NT2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @hturk139, @JeremyDBond
  • PranSang Jan 26 @ 9:49 AM EST
    Yes they do. The schooling is more focused on grades and percentiles rather than learning and that leads to rote learning but that's a completely different issue. #NT2t
    In reply to @MyriahaS, @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • hartel30 Jan 26 @ 9:49 AM EST
    Well #nt2t folks. It's been fun but my self directed learners are both up now (they finally slept in) so I'll have to be going. Will have to check back on all the awesome responses later. Enjoy the weekend.
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:49 AM EST
    I agree! Mostly because of any unperceived chaos of an elementary classroom may get in the way. I do still believe it can be done everywhere though, especially if an elementary student thinks they are being "grown up". #nt2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM EST
    Q5: It can be difficult to assess learning outcomes in a self-directed learning classroom. How can we assess learning authentically and give students an opportunity to demonstrate their understanding? What role should students play in the assessment process? #NT2t
  • brianrozinsky Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM EST
    What about working towards mastering those essential skills *through* at least semi- or pseudo-self-directed learning? E.G., Try w/support, struggle in some ways, reflect, take in feedback, try better next time w/less support. Design thinking+degrees of self-direction! #nt2t
    • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:43 AM EST
      You hit on something here Madison. The drawbacks you mentioned I think are self-inflicted. Self-discipline and time management must be mastered before you head into self-directed learning. #NT2t
      In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM EST
    Seems to me self-directed learning is not intended to replace teaching, period. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @AbelsKeagan
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM EST
    I even see it in myself, having gone through the traditional schooling system. When given the freedom to choose, I am overwhelmed and don't know what I'm 'supposed' to pick. Frustrating in college, frustrating in life. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:50 AM EST
    I wonder, especially is small towns. And what if parents were an active part of it as well? Hmmmm.... #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @hturk139
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:51 AM EST
    A5: Let students co-create the rubric with you. Help them learn to self-assess along the way. #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:51 AM EST
    Yeah, kind of like in China, kids know they have to excel in everything so they can compete and get into top schools globally. So much pressure on them #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @MyriahaS, @AbelsKeagan
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    And I don't think it should ever happen, if the foundation of society is adults being there to guide kids (and as you say, it can be any adult). #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    It is definitely something an elementary T needs to do with intention, creating student buy-in from day 1. A plan, a routine, systems in place...within a structure, creating freedom for students to explore. A challenge for a teacher of any experience level! #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @MissSydneyOK
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    I love this approach! Especially in my college classes, it's so important that my teachers are transparent with me and I know what is expected from me. It leads to a more fair learning approach and makes me feel more connected to my learning. #nt2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    A5: Could we let students create the assessment (teacher guidance) and rubric once they understand the purpose and feel value in what they are learning? #nt2t
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    And you get to choose what you learn more about, what interests you. :) At so many open houses, Ps would tell me they hated history as a student but love it as an adult. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @JeremyDBond, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    Definitely outdated for today's job force. Sad thing is that this is known and acknowledged, but the powers that be won't change what is happening. #NT2t
    In reply to @s_narmadhaa, @AbelsKeagan
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:52 AM EST
    A5. I think a great way to assess students could be to have a conversation with them about their learning experience. Especially if they are all learning slightly different things, it is a great way to use a formative assessment while truly grasping their learning. #nt2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:53 AM EST
    This is the part that I struggle with. In wanting my Ss to know what is expected of them, but wanting them to be able to help decide what is expected of them, will I get Ss that take advantage of the system? How do I counteract that? #nt2t
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK, @SantosTechCoach
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM EST
    Yeah, and it is sad that the changes are only for those who can afford it. I know it's the way most things go, but it's the kids who lose in this case. #NT2t
    In reply to @PranSang, @AbelsKeagan
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM EST
    Chris, story of my life right now... Hahaha! But I've at least helped students enjoy my class, despite it being history. #nt2t
    In reply to @CHitch94, @shyj, @JeremyDBond, @AbelsKeagan
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM EST
    It will totally require a plan, even a backup plan if necessary, but totally worth it in the long-run! #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @AbelsKeagan
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM EST
    It's great to have control over your own evaluation! Do you think your professors feel empowered to give students this power? #nt2t #SelfDirectedLearning
    In reply to @MissSydneyOK
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:54 AM EST
    A5: We should include them in the rubric-making process and be completely transparent about what we are assessing them on from the very beginning. An idea I learned in one of my courses that I can’t wait to implement in my future classroom is including students #nt2t
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:55 AM EST
    This week’s challenge: Choose a lesson, unit, or some other learning experience in which you've used a more traditional teaching approach. Describe how you'd modify it to allow for student-directed learning. Share anytime over the next week with the hashtag #Nt2t!
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:55 AM EST
    History was required in college and I took it the very first semester, and my attitude about it changed right away. Simply being in charge of my learning by being in college, where I had a choice to be there (sorta), seemed to matter to me. Make students want to be there. #nt2t
    In reply to @CHitch94, @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:55 AM EST
    Yes, exactly! I think students can choose their type of literature so that they can engage themselves! Hopefully their school media center will have many of these options. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @Mister_Mize
  • SantosTechCoach Jan 26 @ 9:55 AM EST
    Can you set some baseline expectations (yours) and have them develop additional assessment criteria? With your final approval of course. Even the rubric development can be a feedback/revision loop. #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @MissSydneyOK
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    That is something, in hindsight, I absolutely should have done in 1st grade. Making the expectations clear from the beginning of every unit is helpful to them and me, so we have an end goal in mind together. #nt2t
    In reply to @MissMadisonM1
  • JeremyDBond Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    Also, btw, the thing I ask about today is gym class. THAT'S what I feared most of all. #nt2t
    In reply to @CHitch94, @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • s_narmadhaa Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    Lot of "ifs," but if we do have that system, children would be a lot independent. Imagine boys being self-sufficient and ok with vulnerability. We may not have such a patriarchic society. But in all reality, that system is impossible with modern childhood safety laws. #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj, @hturk139
  • brianrozinsky Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    A5 I've seen a low ceiling on learning in most cases when assessment process is done *to* students. I'm still exploring where or if there's a ceiling when assessment process is done *with* students. Prepositions matter.™ #nt2t
  • MissSydneyOK Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    One thing my professors do when using this approach is tell us what they are needing us to learn during the semester and then, together, create a rubric for individual assignments. We know what is expected and then collaborate on how to accomplish it! #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @SantosTechCoach
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:56 AM EST
    In upper grades, this would absolutely work and is definitely doable. With 6 year olds...I'm not sure. I would love to talk to/observe teachers who have implemented SDL in K-1 classrooms! #nt2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach, @MissSydneyOK
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    A5: in parent-teacher conferences. They get to lead the conversation and talk about what they’ve done well throughout the year and what they could have improved on. This idea encourages their growth and let’s them take charge of their own learning. Parents will get more #nt2t
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    Hey @MissMadisonM1 ...out hashtag is #NT2t
  • Mister_Mize Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    My PBL team ELA teacher told me she became a history minor because she developed a love of history in college, despite hating it in grade school. #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @CHitch94, @shyj, @AbelsKeagan
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    involved too! #nt2t
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    Eric, I think this is a great approach! In my college classes, we are learning about choices within limits, so that students feel free without doing anything we as the teacher would dislike #nt2t
    In reply to @SantosTechCoach, @hturk139, @MissSydneyOK
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    My kids have enjoyed gym thus far but I think it is b/c it is more focused on fitness including weight training and lifetime sports rather than dodgeball and just running. #nt2t
    In reply to @JeremyDBond, @shyj, @Mister_Mize, @AbelsKeagan
  • CHitch94 Jan 26 @ 9:57 AM EST
    Yes, it can be enjoyable if focused on helping Ss see how the past informs the present & how we can learn from past events to better understand current situations. Help them see how they can use skills in other situations. #nt2t
    In reply to @Mister_Mize, @shyj, @JeremyDBond, @AbelsKeagan
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:58 AM EST
    Similar to parenting. You build the fence that they absolutely must not cross, but they get to roam around within that wherever they want to go. #nt2t
    In reply to @AbelsKeagan, @SantosTechCoach, @MissSydneyOK
  • hturk139 - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:59 AM EST
    Thank you all, new and old, for joining us this morning! It was a great conversation. See you all back here again next week, same time, for another engaging education conversation! #nt2t Transcript of this chat will be posted shortly.
  • MissMadisonM1 Jan 26 @ 9:59 AM EST
    I would say we use a mixture of approaches and theories in my courses but you’ve brought an interesting point to my attention. I haven’t received a lot of the self-directed learning approach in college courses. It’s more of “here’s what you need to know.” #nt2t
    In reply to @shyj
  • AbelsKeagan Jan 26 @ 9:59 AM EST
    I think even giving 6 year olds two choices would help in this case. It still lets them believe they have a say, without compromising too much from the teacher. However, I have only seen this as a discipline type practice, so I would be interested to see it in curriculum #nt2t
    In reply to @hturk139, @SantosTechCoach, @MissSydneyOK
  • shyj - Moderator Jan 26 @ 9:59 AM EST
    Definitely Brian since I think these skills will always need to be revisited. Would hope they would be started in elementary school as well and continued through high school. #NT2t
    In reply to @brianrozinsky
  • Jkekseo Jan 26 @ 9:59 AM EST
    #nt2t I am new to educational Twitter chat and trying to learn about PLN's. May I join in this chat?