#wyoedchat Archive
#wyoedchat is a great way for Wyoming educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday October 16, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Welcome to
#wyoedchat
! Go ahead and introduce yourself to the group by telling us your name, location, and subject!
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:31 PM EDT
From WDE: Laurie Hernandez-Standards & Assessment Dir, Jessica Steinbrenner-Assessment Supervisor, & Kari Eakins-Comms Dir!
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wyowriting
Oct 16 @ 8:31 PM EDT
#wyowrites
check out
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WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Good evening! The WDE Assessment team is excited to moderate tonight’s
#wyoedchat
. Join us in 5 minutes!
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Hello
#wyoedchat
. I'm Brant, MS Principal from Riverton. How cool is it to have our State Dept of Ed leading our chat?!!!
Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hello,
@WYOEducation
and
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Dawn from Gillette, jr. high Business Ed (computers)
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hello
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, Wayne, Casper, principal pk-15
Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi,
@wyowayne68
! So good to see you!
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
James checking in from Cheyenne, intervention specialist
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WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Tonight’s Qs will focus on student assessment.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:34 PM EDT
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Monday night a bit more of a challenge. Glad to be here though.
Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Hi,
@wyowayne68
! So good to see you!
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:35 PM EDT
You can now combine
#wyoedchat
and MNF :)
In reply to @wyowayne68
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Q1: What is the most effective type of assessment you use?
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A1: Projects over concepts taught in class are the most effective assesssments I use.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:37 PM EDT
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a1) As P, nothing better then talking to students about what they are learning & observing T teaching.
jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A1. Ones that give immediate data or feedback
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Fast bridges is good
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:39 PM EDT
a1. I still prefer formatives. Even as an admin, I find myself formatively assessing every chance I get...
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Real time data is the holy grail
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In reply to @jpk38
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I'm getting better at that qualitative stuff, myself.
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In reply to @wyowayne68
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q2: What makes student assessment worthwhile? Or not?
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A2: S assessments that drive instruction are worthwhile. Are they getting it? Do I need to reteach?
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KatelynBlattner
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
I'm not sure what assessments I want to use in my future classroom, but I'm hoping to learn a few!
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
a2)
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Can I use it to help inform my next steps?
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Hi all! Late late late! Rachel, Sped T from Granite Canyon
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Welcome,
@KatelynBlattner
!
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A2. Does it good the learning plan for students... Does it lead to changes to make learning meaningful...
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Hi,
@MsCrawford101
! Glad you could join us.
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
a2. Needs to assess soft skills as well as content proficiency. So difficult to predict future success based off a single score.
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1: assessments that are quick and give me and the student good information about student progress
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Hello and welcome
@MsCrawford101
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A2:does it help me and my student determine the next steps we need to take to reach mastery
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:46 PM EDT
a2b. Anything that helps you make those "in the moment" adjustments you need to make the learning more effective.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:46 PM EDT
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Welcome
@MsCrawford101
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Hi all! Late late late! Rachel, Sped T from Granite Canyon
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Getting deep answers now...
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Nope I just live outside of Cheyenne a ways 😉
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In reply to @wyowayne68
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I promised myself I would not beat that dead horse tonight...yet here I go again.
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In reply to @jpk38
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Q3: Which data from assessments is the most useful to you?
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KatelynBlattner
Oct 16 @ 8:49 PM EDT
I'd say assessments help show the students understanding of the material and what areas they need to improve on.
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:49 PM EDT
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Now you're going all
@coachdarin22
on me, lol
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In reply to @jpk38, @coachdarin22
jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A3 data that can be connected to potential growth and other test indicators
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A good assessment will also tell much about your own instruction.
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In reply to @KatelynBlattner
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:51 PM EDT
A3: assessments that show me if they are closing achievement gaps and applying skills they have learned
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:52 PM EDT
A3: The most useful data is data that shows understanding of concepts and growth.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:52 PM EDT
a3)
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The ones that help me see what kids have learned, what kids need to learn and what mistakes they may be making.
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Amen! This is SO true for my kiddos.
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I can talk in music
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@MsSholle
where you at?
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:55 PM EDT
If we could only get you to use your powers for good instead of evil!
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In reply to @jpk38
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Q4: What is the least useful assessment data to you?
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Our new day and time are throwing folks for a loop.
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In reply to @MsCrawford101, @MsSholle
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:57 PM EDT
a4. Data you get 3 month after you give the assessment. (cough) PAWS (cough)
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:57 PM EDT
I think the question we need to ask about assessment is: is it student centered or just a compliance task?
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A4: The least useful are standardized tests, especially ones where you don't get results for months.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 8:57 PM EDT
a4)
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Data that is months old and not very informative. :(
KatelynBlattner
Oct 16 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Late data is the worst data!
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A4 to cumbersome data,. Or that didn't provide immediate help
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A4:Data that tells me my kids are below grade level. Duh, that's why they see me. I want to know WHY! Where are the gaps?
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EduGladiators
Oct 16 @ 8:58 PM EDT
✏️
#EduGladiators
October series On Ss Engagement continues SATURDAY w/
@HeckAwesome
on
#sketchnoting
#LearnLap
#NYEDChat
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WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Q5: What are the pros/cons of giving the WY-TOPP interim assessments?
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
sometimes we can over do the data...get caught looking and not doing anything.
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In reply to @jpk38
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:02 PM EDT
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We will see. If it lives up to the hype it will be fantastic.
#hopeful
# trusting.
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
a5. Pros: Test out the system, get immediate results, prep for Spring test. Cons: Losing instructional time.
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Penny wants me to add that any assessment that cuts down on her running around time is not beneficial
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A5: Pros Ss get idea what test looks like, Cons too much testing, take away learning time
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A5:I like the immediate feedback of Wy-ALT so I hope it's the same! I also think it will give kids more buy-in and ownership
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:05 PM EDT
A5 getting kids comfortable with how they will be assessed.
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KatelynBlattner
Oct 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Pros: quick results Cons: they take so much time
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
A5:if WY-Topp can give us data to help fill gaps or reteach before the spring assessment, that would be incredibly helpful
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:06 PM EDT
I am excited about the opportunity to see it work.
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In reply to @WYOEducation
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q6: Do you have a different view on interim testing earlier grades (K-2) vs. older grades?
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Jim_Hirz
Oct 16 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Oh my god yes! We ask teachers to provide kids timely feedback but our DOE apparently missed the memo.
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A6: I wonder if we need to test K-2 with a state test.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
a6)
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A pig does not grow by weighing it. Sometimes less is more.
catpalmer25
Oct 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
It's not too late to join the conversation!
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WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Q6: Do you have a different view on interim testing earlier grades (K-2) vs. older grades?
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
We're both going to get fired now...thanks Jim :)
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In reply to @Jim_Hirz
MsSholle
Oct 16 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A6: I just want clear, reliable data that can be put to use immediately.
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
There's
@MsSholle
! Welcome!
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:11 PM EDT
There she is :) Welcome Sarah
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In reply to @MsSholle
jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A6 interim testing with older students can't just be to help them learn to be better tester
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
a2. I'm not a early elementary guy, but I just don't know how much valid data you can get testing them at that age? Am I wrong?
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MsSholle
Oct 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
I was reading w one of my little guys. 😊
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:13 PM EDT
As
@wyowayne68
said, we are all hopeful.
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In reply to @WYOEducation, @Jim_Hirz, @wyowayne68
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
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I do not believe you are wrong.
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:12 PM EDT
a2. I'm not a early elementary guy, but I just don't know how much valid data you can get testing them at that age? Am I wrong?
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jpk38
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Lots of testing doesn't require reading and writing and can quickly help. They can be more fun
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In reply to @PrincipalNyberg
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
One thing I like about our DOE is they listen and make changes based on educator feedback.
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In reply to @Jim_Hirz, @WYOEducation
MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Must run
#wyoedchat
peeps! Off to Oregon for a conference on dispute resolution tomorrow!
#ilikespedlaw
#ridiculouslyexcited
KatelynBlattner
Oct 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
6) can't say I have too strong of an opinion on that one
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WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Q7: How can WY-TOPP modular assessments best be incorporated into district assessment systems?
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
That's worth a follow, at least :)
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In reply to @Jim_Hirz, @WYOEducation
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I want to hear about it when I return.
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MsCrawford101
Oct 16 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Must run
#wyoedchat
peeps! Off to Oregon for a conference on dispute resolution tomorrow!
#ilikespedlaw
#ridiculouslyexcited
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
a7. interested in seeing everyone's thoughts on this. To me, I feel like our District Unit Summatives should give us this info.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:22 PM EDT
a7)
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Don't know enough to speak on this yet.
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Do I understand them to potentially be an end of unit formative assessment?
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In reply to @WYOEducation
PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Not sure. Right now I think they are a work in progress and we are using ones from Utah.
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In reply to @wyowayne68, @WYOEducation
wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like an incredibly promising tool.
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Yes! That is exactly what they are. They will available on demand with real time results in grades 3-11 Math and ELA.
In reply to @wyowayne68
WYOEducation
Oct 16 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Q8: What support do educators need around WY-TOPP?
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Dawn63Dale
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Thank you,
@WYOEducation
for moderating and for listening to our opinions.
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PrincipalNyberg
- Moderator
Oct 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
a8. I'll tell you after we give the first interim :) In the meantime, the assessment newsletter and website are great resources.
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wyowayne68
Oct 16 @ 9:29 PM EDT
a8)
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patience and understanding as they make the change. Encouragement the the state understands change can be hard.