#ASEchat Archive

The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday November 6, 2017
3:00 PM EST
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  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:02 PM EST
    Just waiting for our host to arrive - meanwhile which sci skills are hardest to teach? #ASEChat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:02 PM EST
    This is the article I was on about. #asechat
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:03 PM EST
    Depends upon when you start teaching them...we focus upon skills very early in year 7 to embed them into the SOWs #ASEChat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:03 PM EST
    #asechat so which one skill is the biggest surprise or worry that is too often lacking for science lessons?
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM EST
    My challenge when teaching was to enable students to write scientifically #ASEChat
    In reply to @TeacherChemist
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM EST
    I think a lot of teachers might say following a method. But in defence of kids, you need to kind of know where you're going with it #asechat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:04 PM EST
    Think this would be a great cross phase discussion #asechat What gets more challenging as they get older?
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM EST
    Certainly not 'how to light a Bunsen Burner' which traditionally was one of the first Y7 science lessons #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM EST
    I find evaluation of a procedure difficult to get across. Too often they want to talk about their results rather than their method #ASEChat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM EST
    #asechat and to write scientifically means ....?
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @TeacherChemist
  • gregtheseal Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM EST
    Talking #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:06 PM EST
    and can be even harder to assess the quality and quantity of data to support a conclusion? #ASEChat
    In reply to @TeacherChemist
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:06 PM EST
    This is a high order skills, so always going to be difficult, what tips do people have about teaching evaluation #asechat
    • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:05 PM EST
      I find evaluation of a procedure difficult to get across. Too often they want to talk about their results rather than their method #ASEChat
      In reply to @ViciaScience
  • theed_ucator Nov 6 @ 3:06 PM EST
    Evaluation of procedure is such a key part of A Level Bio now too...trying to embed it more and more, even in earlier years! #ASEChat
    In reply to @TeacherChemist, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:07 PM EST
    write a descriptive account that explains a phenomenon using a scientific concept #ASEChat #haveiwrittenthiscorrectly?
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @TeacherChemist
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:07 PM EST
    Very interested in this one, do you mean listening? or talking like a scientist, or just talking! #asechat #shy
    In reply to @gregtheseal, @ViciaScience
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:07 PM EST
    Take away the original apparatus and ask...do it again using different equipment #asechat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:08 PM EST
    So does anyone have a scheme to share that takes students through the steps of evaluating a procedure? #ASEChat
    In reply to @theed_ucator, @TeacherChemist
  • sandrine9210 Nov 6 @ 3:08 PM EST
    Our workload has increased. Another 2 hours unpaid work today, 10 mins lunch / E-mails. Today pressure to train as first aider #asechat
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:08 PM EST
    with expts, we sometimes expect kids to suddenly be independent in their approach when a lot of other times we spoon feed. - #asechat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:09 PM EST
    Its interesting that you’ve both said ‘evaluating a procedure’ haven’t heard anyone say 'a procedure’ before, is it exam speak? #asechat
    • theed_ucator Nov 6 @ 3:06 PM EST
      Evaluation of procedure is such a key part of A Level Bio now too...trying to embed it more and more, even in earlier years! #ASEChat
      In reply to @TeacherChemist, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:10 PM EST
    Hi Sandrine. Good to hear from you. What can science depts do to support you? #ASEChat
    In reply to @sandrine9210
  • gregtheseal Nov 6 @ 3:10 PM EST
    Just talking in general. As they get older they are less inclined to share thoughts and opinions. #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56, @ViciaScience
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:10 PM EST
    Promote explicit teaching of the skills you want. They don’t absorb by ‘osmosis’ from the hands on bit #asechat
    • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:08 PM EST
      with expts, we sometimes expect kids to suddenly be independent in their approach when a lot of other times we spoon feed. - #asechat
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:10 PM EST
    Alas no...something to work upon. We do use the RSC resource The Nature of Science #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @theed_ucator
  • theed_ucator Nov 6 @ 3:11 PM EST
    Sort of- lots of Qs now demand you to analyse procedures (methods) and results to discuss validity of the practical #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:11 PM EST
    Said it before, but when you get a new class, think what skills you want them to have in a year. Don't lament on what they can't do #asechat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:11 PM EST
    They get more scared of making mistakes. How can we reassure that our classroom climate is OK with this? #asechat
    In reply to @gregtheseal, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
    Can you describe how this resource can be used to help , for non chemists? #ASEChat
    In reply to @TeacherChemist, @theed_ucator
  • LessonToolbox Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
    Teaching diffusion? Not without a shark tea infuser your not! via @lNVENTlONS #asechat #ukedchat
  • sandrine9210 Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
    Better training for teachers. Very young staff at our school in London. School need to retain teachers vs NQTs are cheaper. #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
    #asechat need to model for them, give structure, CLEVR, Claim, Evidence, Reason
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:13 PM EST
    I think as children get older they need ma more structured environment to discuss things that 'get assessed' #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56, @gregtheseal
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:13 PM EST
    Evaluating a procedure is very high level! #asechat
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:13 PM EST
    Apologies for being late - my 3yo refused to let me escape his room tonight 'on time' He just doesn't understand #asechat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
    Lots of ‘skills gaps’ in the teachers coming through, own experience as a science learner more limited, transfers to teacher habits #asechat
    • sandrine9210 Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
      Better training for teachers. Very young staff at our school in London. School need to retain teachers vs NQTs are cheaper. #asechat
      In reply to @ViciaScience
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
    Has examples of activities to help develop theories and evaluate techniques...teaches you How Science Works effectively #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @theed_ucator
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
    How science teachers can support technicians - who are being targeted increasingly in budget cuts #important #ASEChat
    • sandrine9210 Nov 6 @ 3:12 PM EST
      Better training for teachers. Very young staff at our school in London. School need to retain teachers vs NQTs are cheaper. #asechat
      In reply to @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
    Does 'working scientifically' have to mean investigation or practical work? What about models in science, the role of observation? #asechat
  • EddisonKnight Nov 6 @ 3:15 PM EST
    #ASEchat We have a #Science Technician position to fill in #Croydon NOW. Fill in your details for more info! https://t.co/csJYzXI52a @theASE
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:16 PM EST
    Is science a mind set that a list of skills or content? How do you develop thinking scientifically? Is that the missing piece? #asechat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:16 PM EST
    when reading a story is more important than twitter! #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:17 PM EST
    And available to all science teachers. You do not need to be a chemist to benefit from RSC wisdom #ASEChat
    • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
      Has examples of activities to help develop theories and evaluate techniques...teaches you How Science Works effectively #asechat
      In reply to @ViciaScience, @theed_ucator
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:17 PM EST
    and communication! #ASEChat
    • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:14 PM EST
      Does 'working scientifically' have to mean investigation or practical work? What about models in science, the role of observation? #asechat
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:19 PM EST
    Sometimes teachers have a habit of, 'today is theory, tomorrow is an expt. Need to change that a little, e.g. short demo & discuss #asechat
  • cwrightpng96 Nov 6 @ 3:19 PM EST
    Do y'all have any recommendations for teaching science in an ethnically diverse classroom where English isn't the primary language? #ASEchat
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:19 PM EST
    Q: Is the diff. between investigation, experiment and observation clear enough from curriculum through to teaching? Does it matter? #ASEChat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:20 PM EST
    So what sorts of skills do we need to teach our students? - communication, mathematical, use of evidence, manipulative, planning #ASEChat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:20 PM EST
    Where is out host @natkin ? #asechat Anyone who’s on the list, please tell us if you cant make it to host #asechat
  • TeacherChemist Nov 6 @ 3:20 PM EST
    All of the above #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:20 PM EST
    or a quick simple experiment and record results - e.g. everyone toss a coin and see if we get 50/50 - leads on to genetics! #asechat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:21 PM EST
    absolutely. The division is artificial and only useful for behind the scenes organisation, not learning #ASEChat
    In reply to @_theteachr
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:21 PM EST
    One thing that may help: science has it's own 'language' so imp. to have clear meaning of all the science specific terminology. #ASEchat
    In reply to @cwrightpng96
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:21 PM EST
    You need to come to ASE Northern Conference on Saturday where the theme is just that issue #ASEChat
    In reply to @cwrightpng96
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM EST
    #asechat vocabulary, vocabulary, preparation, visuals, mimes
    In reply to @cwrightpng96
  • cwrightpng96 Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM EST
    Good to know! #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM EST
    Come to our @theASE conference on Saturday, we have some sessions on EAL learners https://t.co/0zKH5LzIQl #asechat
    • cwrightpng96 Nov 6 @ 3:19 PM EST
      Do y'all have any recommendations for teaching science in an ethnically diverse classroom where English isn't the primary language? #ASEchat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM EST
    #canofworms! Investigations INCLUDE experiment, observation, grouping, pattern seeking etc? #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:22 PM EST
    #asechat I have used a resource produced by Helen Rogerson when teaching evaluation - can't find the link but its evlauation pdf 2013, Helen
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:23 PM EST
    ha ha great minds! #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @cwrightpng96
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:23 PM EST
    There is a danger of reducing science to a tick list though - what is it that gels those things together to make 'Science'? #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:24 PM EST
    And this is where we started tonight - language and communication skills are essential to learning science #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @cwrightpng96
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM EST
    where? #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56, @cwrightpng96
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM EST
    Some EAL resources here https://t.co/nt8LenR53v for science #asechat
    • cwrightpng96 Nov 6 @ 3:19 PM EST
      Do y'all have any recommendations for teaching science in an ethnically diverse classroom where English isn't the primary language? #ASEchat
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM EST
    #asechat and once taught don't forget to practice and revisit - Y13 last yr struggled to 'design' prac - esp. volumes and conc. of reagents!
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM EST
    Does teaching skills well need understanding on why skills should be taught? For exams, conceptual understanding, 'it's important'? #asechat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:26 PM EST
    Another challenging area for science teachers is to get children 'thinking scientifically' What does it mean and how to do it? #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:26 PM EST
    #asechat so let's get CLEVR, any strategies, techniques, tips for this language development aspect in science?
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @MarcNeesam, @cwrightpng96
  • _theteachr Nov 6 @ 3:27 PM EST
    Thank goodness no more ISAs. They did good job of killing developmnt of real science practical skills (not teachers' fault I'd add) #asechat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:27 PM EST
    I am not clear what we mean by scientific skills, and find it hard to see the boundary between knowledge and skills #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:27 PM EST
    #asechat so when is it considered taught
    In reply to @SKLchem, @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:27 PM EST
    Investigations need experiments, observations etc but doing them doesn't = investigation. Are we too investigation-centric? #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:29 PM EST
    Might be something in this one for you @gregtheseal https://t.co/oao33Pi9Hr Group talk #asechat
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:29 PM EST
    #asechat Get them to think about why results may differ from what they expect https://t.co/qVGEhBywOV not if practical is recipe-following
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:29 PM EST
    My tip from limited experience, are to get children talking about what they see, their explanations, and their eval of explanations #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @MarcNeesam, @cwrightpng96
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:29 PM EST
    #asechat I would say to investigative phobic
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:29 PM EST
    Is there a boundary? Skills are required but only if they support the development of understand and acquisition of knowledge? #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:30 PM EST
    #asechat - Great question - when mastered, understood and can be repeated and applied?
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:30 PM EST
    I agree ISAs became 'a monster', but started with the best intentions. Who screwed the system? #ASEChat
    In reply to @_theteachr
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:31 PM EST
    Maybe teachers are but is the science education community? #ASEchat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:32 PM EST
    Never? Something taught in one context may need to be taught in other contexts so pupils see the connection? #ASEChat #neverendingstory
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @SKLchem
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:32 PM EST
    #asechat so scared, we might loose control
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience
  • gregtheseal Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
    Thanks this looks interesting. I was thinking more about less formal talking. #ASEChat
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
    The thing for me about evaluation is that you have to make a ‘Judgement” and justify it not sure I ever communicated this very well #asechat
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:33 PM EST
    #asechat - do we mean taught or learned ... suspect the latter!
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @stevethedoc1
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:35 PM EST
    well that’s definitely about the classroom climate #asechat not been scared to be wrong esp as puberty becomes established
    In reply to @gregtheseal
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:35 PM EST
    Tick box trauma means when taught not learned #asechat
    In reply to @SKLchem, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:35 PM EST
    Once upon a time a certain SoS decided curriculum must be knowledge based not skills based. False dichotomy in my view #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
    #asechat so how can we break this down into steps?
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
    Mmmm. Lets say 'the teacher needs to ensure that the learner can apply in different contexts' #ASEChat
    In reply to @SKLchem, @stevethedoc1
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:36 PM EST
    best to start from scratch, what ‘skills' are needed to be successful at science, then track back to decide teaching progression #asechat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:37 PM EST
    #asechat did he get his way? What is first section of PoS under his watch?
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • dave2004b Nov 6 @ 3:37 PM EST
    #asechat V hard for students to be truly investigative, esp pre A-level-don't have the mental constructs developed through yrs of experience
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
    Process has to be modelled, but its hard to break it down, must be why its high order thinking .. #ASEChat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
    Absolutely agree, and hope this primary approach washes over into secondary too #ASEChat
    In reply to @anhalf
  • dave2004b Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
    #asechat High stakes accountability....
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @_theteachr
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
    Effective teaching skills is an issue rooted in pedagogy of what science is. Does exam washback negatively affect this? #asechat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:38 PM EST
    #asechat what does high order mean? We do not teach it well?
    In reply to @NeedhamL56
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:39 PM EST
    Probably at secondary, by including so much (rubbish) content that there is no time to teach scientific thinking? #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:40 PM EST
    I agree. Primary esp spend so much time on them, why do we talk so much about investigations? Better to observe and experiment? #ASEchat
    In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:41 PM EST
    could be, are we sacred of losing them instead of challenging? #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:41 PM EST
    Brilliant. Thanks Kathryn. Should be a vital support for those teaching 2016 GCSE science in absence of past papers #ASEChat
    • kathrynbooth23 Nov 6 @ 6:33 AM EST
      GCSE 9-1. Delighted this has finally come to fruition; our data-rich Y10 exam report has arrived in all English centres this week. #asechat
  • dave2004b Nov 6 @ 3:41 PM EST
    #asechat Inevitably - with the exams wagging the T&L dog, what is examined is important has sadly become the current status quo.
    In reply to @MarcNeesam
  • margaretflem Nov 6 @ 3:41 PM EST
    I'd like to include critical/future thinking and ability to spot the cxxp #asechat
    • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:20 PM EST
      So what sorts of skills do we need to teach our students? - communication, mathematical, use of evidence, manipulative, planning #ASEChat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:43 PM EST
    So would you include as a science specific skill the ability to 'think globally' ? #ASEChat
    In reply to @margaretflem
  • dave2004b Nov 6 @ 3:43 PM EST
    #asechat - perhaps, but I can see an argument that investigative science at pri could be more 'play-based learning' (out on a limb here...)
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience
  • SKLchem Nov 6 @ 3:44 PM EST
    #asechat Have written & used several POS designed to develop practical skills - OCR had useful resource in the CA lesson plan doc (gateway)
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:44 PM EST
    Who considers science skills to be limited to those manipulative skills required to carry out a required practical procedure? #ASEChat
  • margaretflem Nov 6 @ 3:45 PM EST
    Yes you know me so well:) such important practical life skills #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
    I think it can be very structured still. Should we just stop saying investigation and say scientific enquiry? #ASEchat
    In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:46 PM EST
    And I agree with you. DfE rejected suggestions of including global issues in the science curriculum. Poor decision #ASEChat
    • margaretflem Nov 6 @ 3:45 PM EST
      Yes you know me so well:) such important practical life skills #asechat
      In reply to @ViciaScience
  • dave2004b Nov 6 @ 3:47 PM EST
    #asechat that's certainly how the SAILS project describes it.
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
    #asechat so often they appear to be, wonder why children switch off
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
    Lets just call it science, and stop the false separation into practical and theoretical science. Cant have one without the other #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @dave2004b
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
    Needs to be incorporated more into resources and even the national curriculum then perhaps? #ASEchat
    In reply to @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:48 PM EST
    Particularly when practical used to 'entertain' as light relief to the 'hard stuff' #ASEChat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:49 PM EST
    #asechat have you not summed up progress in all versions of NC missing where we have got o today WS?
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • whitebug16 Nov 6 @ 3:49 PM EST
    and when, for whatever reason, a child does not have those motor skills, then what? #asechat (planning for saturday!)
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • margaretflem Nov 6 @ 3:50 PM EST
    But almost back to last week - placing practical skills in this context makes learning more productive #asechat #sciencecapital
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:50 PM EST
    #asechat left it to us to include in the school curriculum, should have been fine
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:50 PM EST
    It is useful to have a name for the process of doing science though, and not just knowing it #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @dave2004b
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:50 PM EST
    I am looking forward to hearing your answer on Saturday! #ASEChat
    In reply to @whitebug16
  • whitebug16 Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
    is 'don't do it' too simple? #asechat
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
    Problem I have with names is when one simple name covers too wide an area for people to share meaning. Take 'skills' for example #ASEChat
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @dave2004b
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:52 PM EST
    #asechat is that difference between Sheldon, Leonard, Raj and Howard?
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @ViciaScience, @dave2004b
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
    For me, yes. I prefer 'do it this different way' #ASEChat
    In reply to @whitebug16
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:53 PM EST
    What is written on paper needs to be seen in class. Too much talk is still on doing investigations. (which is also a note to self) #ASEchat
    In reply to @stevethedoc1, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:54 PM EST
    Not sure I am capable of summarising this discussion. Anyone want to attempt a summary? #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:54 PM EST
    #asechat and note to many out there
    In reply to @MarcNeesam, @dave2004b, @ViciaScience
  • MarcNeesam Nov 6 @ 3:55 PM EST
    This is the reason the words we use, the language of the subject, is important. People make judgements on that first introduction. #ASEchat
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @dave2004b
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:55 PM EST
    So tonight's discussion on skills pupils lack centred on communication and investigative skills #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:55 PM EST
    #asechat what skill(s) you missing/lacking?
    In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:56 PM EST
    And as often happens two parallel discussions appeared to take us off in different directions. #ASEChat
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:57 PM EST
    There were some useful references shared, daily by @NeedhamL56 but also we heard hrogerson has an eval checklist #ASEChat
  • NeedhamL56 - Moderator Nov 6 @ 3:57 PM EST
    You too could come along and find out the answer from @whitebug16 at our @theASE Northern Conference on Saturday #ASEChat #inclusion
    • whitebug16 Nov 6 @ 3:49 PM EST
      and when, for whatever reason, a child does not have those motor skills, then what? #asechat (planning for saturday!)
      In reply to @ViciaScience
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:57 PM EST
    So for those following different threads I will try to capture the various tweets using storify and publish here just after 9.00pm #ASEChat
  • stevethedoc1 Nov 6 @ 3:58 PM EST
    #asechat a good CLaim, with one piece of evidence so far, where's HR?
    In reply to @ViciaScience, @NeedhamL56
  • ViciaScience Nov 6 @ 3:59 PM EST
    Meanwhile I would find it really useful if #ASEChat could list the skills pupils need to become 'good at science'