Nathan Olson, 8th Math @vmsroyals. I struggle to not take things personally when I teach. Whether it is a student with a tough home life or a disrespectful interaction, I have a hard time leaving it at school. #gfedchat
Amanda Harvie, HS English and French teacher, Thompson High School, Alabaster, Alabama. Knowing when to ask for help is a struggle for me. #gfedchat#UMEdTech
Melinda Blakeman, Reading Specialist, Twining Elementary. As a Ss I struggled with math, as a Tt I struggle to continuously keep myself organized #gfedchat#workinprogress
I have also always been awful at any choreographed dancing. Line dancing in gym was painful. The gymnastics unit in elelmentar PE was also torture. Couldnât do a forward roll! #gfedchat
Lindsey Johnson, Century Elementary, I struggled in Biology and Chemistry my freshman year of college. That may have been because I was more interested in socializing... #gfedchat
A1: Good learners have growth mindsets...never give up/find a resource Good teachers never stop trying new ways to reach their students...whatever it takes, never giving up #gfedchat
A1: Being a good teacher means being an outstanding learner; a continual quest to be better than yesterday, to learn from our mistakes and to be curious enough to try new things. #gfedchat
A1: Good learner - keep trying! Kids with sp/lang delays can lack confidence to try. Good teacher - same - keep trying. Look for what is a strength and go with it. #gfedchat
A1: Good learner: willing to try their best every day. Good teacher: taking cues from the Ss to know what skills/concept I need to teach next. Observing everything #gfedchat
a1: 1st thing that comes to mind- zone of proximal development. The learned needs to apply what has been learned and preserver through struggle to learn more. The teacher needs to know when the students don't know enough and when they know enough to be pushed. #gfedchat
A1: good learner...process information to make connections within the subject and with "real life" good teacher...finding new ways to ask your students to persist and continue to try to make those connections
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Q1: To be a good learner in art you would need to understand the medium, terminology, and method that we use to create a project. As a good teacher is to explain the information well enough so that they can execute the lesson. #gfedchat
A1: as a learner it means finding your niche/success. As a teacher it means becoming fully involved in that subject or idea. Knowing, learning and experiencing all it has to offer students #gfedchat
A good learner comes to school everyday ready to learn. Participates, asks questions, and wants to further his/her knowledge. A good teacher knows her students inside and out. Knows their interests, their strengths, and weaknesses, and then does something about it. #gfedchat
A1: A good teacher is reflective and strives to find the best practices to reach every student. A good student perseveres. Both aim to learn new things each day. #gfedchat
A1: Good learners work hard and ask questions. Good teachers find ways to figure out how all children learn even if it's not the traditional way. #gfedchat
Kristy Page, School Psychologist at Red River, Community, RMAC, Adult Transition, Kelly, and Lewis & Clark Elementary. I struggle with reading comprehension. #gfedchat
A1: A good learner perseveres and uses a growth mindset to accomplish tasks using analytical and problem solving skills. A good teacher listens, guides, provokes inquisitiveness, and empowers ss. #gfedchat
A1: Good learner: willing to try their best every day. Good teacher: taking cues from the Ss to know what skills/concept I need to teach next. Observing everything #gfedchat
A1: Being a good teacher means being a good learner. You need to share your enthusiasm and experiences with your students so that they can connect with their own elements of wonder. Itâs ok to feed your nerdery! I do every day. #gfedchat
A1: ...and, âIf you want to see learner-centered practices in the classroom, we need learner-centered professional learningâ via @katiemartinedu Productive struggle should be one of those practices all learners have the opportunity to experience. #gfedchat
A1: Good learners know when they know something and know who to ask or where to look for answers when they don't know. Good teachers & learners know the power of YET but keep learning. #gfedchat
A1: I am not a Tt, but from a School Psych's perspective a "good learner" is usually defined cognitively as having good verbal and nonverbal reasoning abilities along with proficient visual and auditory processing. #gfedchat
A1-I want Ss to try. If they've tried to use resources (books, notes, internet, other Ss, Ts, etc.) Ts have to do the same. We have to keep trying to help the Ss overcome the challenges (academic & other) in their lives. #gfedchat
A2: Games tend help students strive for more. Many ways to use games to go over learning rather than just paper/pencil tests such as kahoot, jeopardy, math card games, etc. #gfedchat
A2: #breakoutedu is perfect fit for students to experience productive struggle. Some students shine who may not shine in other academic areas. #gfedchat
A2: thanks to @bmhanson7 we did a @breakoutEDU today! I have also used them with Math students. Enjoyed learning more about my students and how they process the concepts within the game. #gfedchat
A2: I use games to practice letter/sound ID, reading CVC words, onset/rhyme, word patterns. The kids love it and they encourage one another. If they fail at ID/reading the word, they know that they will have another chance #gfedchat
A1: Pt 2 Being a good Tt is being aware and understanding of a Ss strengths and weaknesses and empathetic of issues they may be going through #gfedchat
A2 I agree! And for some Ss, @breakoutEDU is the first time they've ever struggled or even failed in school. Struggle & failure is part of learning, for all, eventually. #gfedchat
A2: #breakoutedu is perfect fit for students to experience productive struggle. Some students shine who may not shine in other academic areas. #gfedchat
A2: We donât use games in my classroom due to the cognitive level of my students being below 24 months, but we use motivators (I.e toys, sensory exploration, etc) to accomplish work tasks. #gfedchat
a2: I turn as much as I can into a game.competition (w/others or themselves), challenge, fun, and a chance at a 'win' does so much to encourage Ss through struggle.
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Yes, and we must provide students more opportunities to not only play but also write their own #breakoutedu games. What a great example of a productive struggle. #gfedchat
A2-I use math games with Ss. I also like to use board games & card games to work on social skills with students. It's not just the Ss receiving special education services that need the social skills. I'm surprised with how many 8th graders don't have the skills yet. #gfedchat
A2: #breakoutedu is perfect fit for students to experience productive struggle. Some students shine who may not shine in other academic areas. #gfedchat
A3: Struggles hep ss to learn how to overcome adversity, how to ask for help, and to problem solve. It also teaches them that they need to work at things in life because it wonât always be handed to you. #gfedchat
A3: So Ss that you fail and what you do to fight through.
It is important because life is full of failure. What matters is how you react and grow from them
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A3 As learners we all will experience challenges in learning & life. Mistakes aren't tattoo...they're only a bruise. We all have to know how to cope with mistakes. #gfedchat
A3: We have to know how to fail and get back up again, failing is hard for kiddos that never fail or when things have always come easy, see this more and more in my students, have to change their mindset, we learn from mistakes #gfedchat
A3: Ss learn from mistakes. It is important in learning. As artists we test mistakes and turn them into miracles. How can a mistake turn into perfection? #gfedchat
A3: normalizing mistakes in lab...i tell them that its not a mistake, its a result they didnt expect. in class...all they have to do is watch me. i make mistakes all the time! struggle teaches perseverance
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A3: We learn from our mistakes so that we can learn and model the correct way to create art. Letting the students know that everyone can make mistakes and that is how we learn. #gfedchat
A3: normalizing mistakes in lab...i tell them that its not a mistake, its a result they didnt expect. in class...all they have to do is watch me. i make mistakes all the time! struggle teaches perseverance
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A1) Students are present everyday, not because they have to be but because they are excited to be with peers and excited to learn. Teachers = ditto #gfedchat
A3: think we learn/Remember things during times of struggle or times we had to work extra hard (Ex:We the People memorization) tough but still remember #gfedchat
A3: Struggle and making mistakes is VERY important. We need to respond differently to mistakes from the message of failure to celebrating the mistake to learn a lesson #gfedchat
A3: We normalize mistakes by having an open culture of taking risks; that includes all students, staff, and administrators striving for anything better by taking risks. #gfedchat (HT @TheBradCurrie)
a3: don't just recognize/grade the end result, recognize/grade the effort. admit your own failures/mistakes in front of Ss. don't give everyone a trophy. growth mindset. reward courage and risk taking. #gfedchat
A3: Emphasize the goal is learning - not producing 'x' result. The goal may be a certain result, but it's important to focus on what did you learn from this. #gfedchat
A3-Struggling and overcoming builds character, confidence, and resiliency. I'm not sure how to normalize it except to show that we make mistakes too. Maybe our society should stop with participation ribbons/awards. #gfedchat
A3: Mistakes can also be normalized by being very intentional in district/school beliefs and norms, including permission to FAIL UP. HT @MVPSchool#gfedchat
A3: As staff and Tt, it is important to share our mistakes with our Ss in the moment and asking Ss for their advice on how a Tt could fix their mistake to promote reasoning #gfedchat
A4: That summative assessment is more likely to be a pass/fail-type evaluation. Formative lets you know where you are along the way to mastery. #gfedchat#UMEdTech
Q4: the struggle is in the learning and understanding which comes during the formative assessment window. Mistakes made here will show growth and understanding when we do the summative assessments #gfedchat
A4 If Ss are still struggling with learning during a summative (test/final project) it might be a reflection on the learning process not being very responsive to learners' needs #gfedchat
A4: struggle in formative learning might have clarification from Tt or fellow Ss (like during group work). struggle in summative may be more individual
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A3: I tell Ss not to worry about making a mistake, that that's how we learn. I'm quick to point out that I fail loads of times before I get it right #gfedchat
A4 - Students will be more comfortable making mistakes in a formative learning environment vs a summative. We need students to know that it's ok to make mistakes in both types of learning experiences. #gfedchat
A4: Summative is final while formative should be work in progress; a productive struggle and journey to become even more curious and yes, even maybe achieve mastery. #gfedchat
A4-Formative assessments help the Ss and the Ts know what has been learned and what still needs to be learned before the unit is completed. Summative tells you if you learned it or not at the end. #gfedchat
A4: I guess in formative you're expected to make tons of mistakes and figure things out as you go. Hopefully by the time you get to summative, you've learned from those mistakes; otherwise, struggle would be failing to apply everything Ss have learned #gfedchat
A4 I agree-Struggle during the formative learning leads to response from T or other Ss to deepen understanding. Struggle during summative learning is a bit like an autopsy-too late. #gfedchat
A4: struggle in formative learning might have clarification from Tt or fellow Ss (like during group work). struggle in summative may be more individual
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A4: Formative is designed to let you fail and work toward a goal. This learning should lead to better understanding for summative. Summative should be applying what you learned #gfedchat
A4: in a formative focus, you are adjusting and learning as you improve. Forming learning and experiences to grow. vs Summative - pass or fail.
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A4 If Ss are still struggling with learning during a summative (test/final project) it might be a reflection on the learning process not being very responsive to learners' needs #gfedchat
a4: summative struggle-a piece of the puzzle is missing. formative struggle-all the pieces are there, the Ss haven't yet figured out how they fit together. #gfedchat
A5: Allow for risk taking without significant consequences of a Final Grade. Provide feedback vs. a grade and allow for learning through editing/redoing. #gfedchat
A5: Present challenges or provide situations where Ss have to interact and discuss with one another. Break out boxes, games, presentation, & research are all options to provide productive struggle. Also, model this to Ss. #gfedchat
A5-Modeling how to struggle in a group, then partners, and eventually individually could help students transition into the idea of struggling. Share resources & ways of problem solving. They need to struggle to understand how to overcome the struggle. #gfedchat
A5: Some voice and Choice in how Ss show what they know, understand and can do. Studnet need to have the freedom to choose, try and fail. And then pick themselves up and do it all over again! #gfedchat
a5: don't be so quick to jump in with assistance or reteaching. let them struggle. let them ask peers for help. let them problem solve. after one or more of those things are done, then step in again. #gfedchat
A5: Turn a Ss question back onto them. Ex. If a Ss asks you what to do in a situation, respond with, "I don't know, what would/could you do?" Make them reason instead of you reasoning for them #gfedchat
a5: don't be so quick to jump in with assistance or reteaching. let them struggle. let them ask peers for help. let them problem solve. after one or more of those things are done, then step in again. #gfedchat
A5: Iâve always wanted to give it to the students and sayâhereâs what you need to learn...have at it! Between all the you tube videos/songs (especially teaching Spanish!), they would probably rock it! Iâve never been brave enough to do it. #gfedchat
A6. We often get 'impatient' and want to help students get to the answer before they can think critically to solve a problem. Watching Ss struggle can often make adults uncomfortable. #gfedchat
A6: doing the work for them. Being impatient or trying to "rush". Ts are often on a tight timeline and sometimes productive struggle can take longer than expected #gfedchat
Going through a "learning" struggle right now with family. Raising the stress level, but just can't feed an answer to the learner. We'll see how we all survive. #gfedchat
A5: Model the struggle for them. For example, show Ss how we think through barriers to comprehension in a text. Show Ss the strategies we use to make meaning in a complex text. #gfedchat
a5: don't be so quick to jump in with assistance or reteaching. let them struggle. let them ask peers for help. let them problem solve. after one or more of those things are done, then step in again. #gfedchat
A6 Along with calling on students who always have the right answer and praising Ss for being smart instead of persevering, reasoning, and risk-taking. #gfedchat
Going through a "learning" struggle right now with family. Raising the stress level, but just can't feed an answer to the learner. We'll see how we all survive. #gfedchat
A6 Following a strict schedule to cover material also prevents from Ss from struggling productively and really understanding ideas, skills, concepts. #gfedchat
A6: Teachers help Ss with mistakes and Ss don't have opportunity to figure out a solution independently. Sometimes it is cause we want all Ss to succeed! #gfedchat
A6: Give answers to problems quickly, not providing an opportunity to struggle through natural consequences, getting frustrated with a Ss and shutting them down #gfedchat
A5: Model the struggle for them. For example, show Ss how we think through barriers to comprehension in a text. Show Ss the strategies we use to make meaning in a complex text. #gfedchat
I notice this every time I do a breakout box. The teachers/other adults in the room have SUCH a hard time watching the Ss struggle through the problem-solving. #gfedchat
a6: lectures, busy work or worksheets, impatience, doing it yourself because its easier, guilt, discomfort, focusing on the destination not the journey (aka curriculum pacing). #gfedchat.
A7: That is a difficult choice between 1, 2, and 3. Ultimately, I choose 1 because most everyone can relate to that feeling of falling and falling before finally learning you're riding a bike on your own. The adult also has to step back! #gfedchat#UMEdTech
A6: My problem is I want the students to be so successful and to do well and that I don't let them struggle--I would rather have them do it right the first time--especially in art. #gfedchat
A7: Pic 1: We give the Ss what they need (helmet, confidence) and we are close by in case something bad happens, but we allow them to try and to feel the joy of the success #gfedchat
a7: picture #1. we've all gotten scraped knees learning how to ride a bike. however the freedom and joy from finally succeeding... it has kept kids generation after generation pushing through struggle. #gfedchat
A7. Pic 1 Most people can relate to this. Or if you have ever helped a child learn, it can be so tough to watch them get frustrated, fall, etc. #gfedchat
I feel this way many times too even though I often gain more from struggling & trying something more than once. As a T I'm more comfortable with the thrill of success & little afraid of defeat. #gfedchat
A7: I love the Brown Bear Brown Bear analogy, "You can't go over it, you can't go under it, you can't go around it, you have to go through it" Provide your Ss the patience & opportunity to Go Through It.There is way more self satisfaction in doing something on your own #gfedchat
A7: I love the Going on a Bear Hunt analogy "You can't go over it, you can't go under it, you can't go around it, you have to go through it" Provide your Ss the patience & opportunity to Go Through It.There is way more self satisfaction in doing something on your own #gfedchat
A7 That's so true...and as my husband recently reminded me at a hockey game "You can't play the game for him." Eventually Ss will have what it takes to do it. #gfedchat
A7. Pic 1 Most people can relate to this. Or if you have ever helped a child learn, it can be so tough to watch them get frustrated, fall, etc. #gfedchat
