#DevDiscuss Archive


Tuesday November 7, 2017
9:00 PM EST

  • shannon_crabill Nov 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Same. I'm curious about inter team communication #devdiscuss
    In reply to @MrThomasRayner, @ThePracticalDev
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Absolutely. Although that would have been a good one for when Slack was down #devdiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„ Time for the #DevDiscuss Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is CREATIVE CODING πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Rules: - Stay on topic - ALWAYS ALWAYS use hashtag #DevDiscuss - Be NICE/POSITIVE ❀️ - Quoting tweets for clarity is encouraged
  • iNidAName Nov 7 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Creative Coding #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @shannon_crabill, @MrThomasRayner, @ThePracticalDev
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • shannon_crabill Nov 7 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Passion projects fall inside the scope #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • IgnoreIntuition Nov 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Creative coding and I are mutually exclusive #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I kinda felt like my adventure today was creative. Instead of multithreading, I tried to kick off 450+ Azure Automation runbooks at once. Found out there’s a 200 at a time limit. Oops. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Nov 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I have actually never heard of this term. It sounds like it is making art representations via code. Is this very popular? Think I missed the boat on this. #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Most code is creative but I hear the term used often to specifically talk about art created with code. I'm not a huge fan of the term in that context, as it diminishes the fast that code is always "creative" #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • lpasqualis Nov 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    #devdiscuss I started coding lured by the possibilities opened by creative coding. Specifically, writing code with the goal of creating something expressive, not functional.
  • ResiduumMuc Nov 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Algorave and live coding music. What about algorithmic composition as done by John Cage or serial music composers from the 1950s? #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I searched "what is creative coding" on Google, and I got... "Creative coding is a type of computer programming in which the goal is to create something expressive instead of something functional." #DevDiscuss
  • kylegalbraith Nov 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Creative coding means something else to me. I think all coding is a creative act and is often not viewed that way when it should be. #devdiscuss
  • bruno_dsm Nov 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    I’d say that creative coding would be finding new ways to tackle trivial/complex problems applying theories and tools available #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:13 PM EST
    After hearing the term "creative coding", I now want to make something under its scope!! #devdiscuss
  • lpasqualis Nov 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #devdiscuss One of the best languages for creative coding is Processing (https://t.co/kLM2wYEXTv). It is a language often used to create art with code.
  • ResiduumMuc Nov 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Definitely inside the scope: Using the API in an unintended way and hacking around limitations #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • kylegalbraith Nov 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I 100% agree with this. I think *all* coding is creative. #devdiscuss
    • bendhalpern Nov 7 @ 9:12 PM EST
      Most code is creative but I hear the term used often to specifically talk about art created with code. I'm not a huge fan of the term in that context, as it diminishes the fast that code is always "creative" #DevDiscuss
      • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
        Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I’ve heard tons of debate about whether coding is art or science. Craft or not. I see both sides. Both? Neither? #devdiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • iNidAName Nov 7 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I would perceive it has something to do with Design Patterns. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Creative coding is when something should work but doesn’t, so you kludge together a bunch of functions that do work #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • gdavis92 Nov 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Probably using code to solve or aid in solving non-tech issues, or tech issues but in an unconventional manner #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • codingwcookie Nov 7 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Coding that you do professionally and hate 😠 would not be β€œCreative Coding”. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • martinjdolan Nov 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss topic of creativity in coding. First to mind for me is @chriscoyier, @alexquez and @timsabat with @CodePen. Most everything about Code Pen encourages creativity. From the instant visual feedback, to the quick addition of code libraries it lets the ideas flow. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @chriscoyier, @alexquez, @timsabat, @CodePen
  • lilymercy Nov 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I would consider using coding to create art is creative coding #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Whoa, to think that we tackled this in college. :O I'm happy I got to try Processing then πŸ˜„ #devdiscuss
  • ResiduumMuc Nov 7 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Counterexample: Some boring enterprise CRUD application with SAP connector. Boring, but pays the bill. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @kylegalbraith
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    To be honest, after that class, I remember I wanted to try creating more "artistic output" using code. But time and life got in the way of that πŸ˜… #devdiscuss
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Not sure that’s true. The hodgepodge of stuff someone makes just to be done with a project could be β€œcreative” in its absurdity. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @codingwcookie, @ThePracticalDev
  • Wintermute21 Nov 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    all code is creative because all code is a creative activity. Similar to the story of the 3 stonemasons. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • bruno_dsm Nov 7 @ 9:17 PM EST
    It would be fantastic to use the 280 character limit for the #devdiscuss, but the app didn’t update here πŸ’€
  • KPath001 Nov 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I agree with you and @bendhalpern as well..I believe all coding is creative because its showing your creative solution to the given problem #devdiscuss
    In reply to @kylegalbraith, @bendhalpern
  • dfravel Nov 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    ITT coding creatively vs creative coding #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • ResiduumMuc Nov 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    That's not a bad thing: You have to deliver software in time, and creativity is not something you can plan. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @kylegalbraith
  • KrisSiegel Nov 7 @ 9:18 PM EST
    All coding is #creative. Like a painter we’re creating something every time we code. Sometimes it’s not exciting but it doesn’t have to be exciting to be creative. Coding is an art! #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • indelibleblupen Nov 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss I would honestly say ALL code is creative. "Computer Science" is a misnomer (as I discuss extensively in "The Cake Is A Lie": https://t.co/GVEw2WOJQY). All our rules are our own invention.
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    When I read "creative coding", the first thing that came into mind was this site I bookmarked: https://t.co/evRcQWWauY But now I'm not sure if that's considered? Since it's CSS...? πŸ˜… #devdiscuss
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:19 PM EST
    But the website did say that CSS is "the programming language for web designing and typesetting"... πŸ˜† I'd like to consider this as one then. πŸ˜„ #devdiscuss
  • aeroradish Nov 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Creative coding: Unusual coding techniques brought about by necessity / circumstance. Usually involves disclaimers of "this is temporary". #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • AYHarano Nov 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #devdiscuss At first, I would think it is redundant, given that coding should be intrinsically creative. Unfortunately, that's not always the case =\
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • yowify Nov 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I actually learned programming using POV-Ray tutorials. Having a big ass textured cube being rendered line by line for hours was amazing at the time. #DevDiscuss
  • lpasqualis Nov 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #devdiscuss I am also of the opinion that "creative coding" is a redundant term if you expand the meaning of "creative" to include functional creativity. All coding is creative. To me, "creative coding" is specifically about creating expressive and artistic creations.
  • AYHarano Nov 7 @ 9:20 PM EST
    #devdiscuss At first, I would think it is redundant, given that coding should be intrinsically creative. Unfortunately, that's not always the case =\
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • mrskellyvaughn Nov 7 @ 9:21 PM EST
    If it's not coded in comic sans, it's not creative coding. Right? ...Anyone? #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Creative coding is usually tagged with β€œTODO: go back and fix this later but it works for now” - comment is 6 years old #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    What's the most creative coding project you've seen lately? #devdiscuss
  • pandyzhao Nov 7 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I think the beauty of "creative coding" is being able to use whatever tools you both want or need to solve the problem. Both want/need because the two can fuel creative thinking. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • AbandonedFridge Nov 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I'd have to disagree with @bendhalpern and @kylegalbraith here. If all coding is creative then the term "creative coding" really only applies to code that's extra creative. When someone uses it, I immediately assume extra flair or ingenuity was used. #devdiscuss
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Agh, there's this website a friend shared with me that I want to share in #devdiscuss !!! I think it's another great example of creative coding! Just gotta go through my numerous bookmarks... πŸ˜“
  • kylegalbraith Nov 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Lately I have seen a lot of great stuff around "creative" production deployments to really minimize downtime. There is a lot to learn and leverage here. #devdiscuss
  • theAJSingleton Nov 7 @ 9:25 PM EST
    #DevDiscuss: working on a #Bitcoin-miner with #GekkoScience sticks and #Minera-client; I’ll do a screencast soon for demo with @Raspberry_Pi- checkout my @GitHub #gist here: https://t.co/LaETIQynVY
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @Raspberry_Pi, @github
  • kylegalbraith Nov 7 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I don't think there is a disagreement. I think if you want to use the term "creative coding" then yes it means something extra was done. But coding is naturally creative in my mind. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @AbandonedFridge, @bendhalpern
  • bruno_dsm Nov 7 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Perhaps projects that deal with machine learning or fantastic response times πŸ€” #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • AYHarano Nov 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    #devdiscuss I would gladly point out the wonderful FLOSS projects which give my team code a solid structure to keep it going, but honestly, time constraints don't let us really appreciate them as we should and just use them as byproducts =\
  • ResiduumMuc Nov 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    The microG project: Providing a workaround for Google API calls, so that apps can just use e.g. the geolocation API, but without users having to give their data to Google. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • michaelhazani Nov 7 @ 9:29 PM EST
    My all time fav Creative Coding resource is the @cc_pod by @seb_ly and @iainlobb. I listened to it obsessively when I was starting out. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @cc_pod, @seb_ly, @iainlobb
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Creative coding should have a minimum of 15 pieces of flair. #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Firstly can we talk about the term "creative coding". What would you consider to fall inside and outside of its scope? #devdiscuss
  • bendhalpern Nov 7 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I thought this was a fun application of blockchain posted to https://t.co/E4yHRJkeOg just yesterday https://t.co/GA5Rxp6hHA #devdiscuss
  • jrzano Nov 7 @ 9:31 PM EST
    expressive vs functional #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Finally found it! https://t.co/TMiFy2fWB9 Very cool. πŸ˜„ #devdiscuss
  • michaelhazani Nov 7 @ 9:32 PM EST
    It’s got years of priceless knowledge-sharing, interviews&wisdom pertaining to most applications of creative code. Inspiring, encouraging, mind-expanding stuff. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @cc_pod, @seb_ly, @iainlobb
  • gdavis92 Nov 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Maybe not "most", but the linked project is pretty cool #devdiscuss https://t.co/WwkIYbUskS
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    All my references of creative coding so far are just examples on how to display something in a programmatical way (?) But I'd like to know if this is possible to do without "displaying" anything? πŸ€” #devdiscuss
  • KristinHenry Nov 7 @ 9:33 PM EST
    My "selfDrawingCode" in python, is probably the most creative thing I've ever written, or conceptualized. #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Sorry work, I really like #devdiscuss. I'll get back to you in an hour. 🀣
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:35 PM EST
    It’s been a while, but an old Doom mod where the demons were Linux Daemons and when you shot one it killed the process. #devdiscuss
  • KristinHenry Nov 7 @ 9:36 PM EST
    I forgot to post link to the repo for selfDrawingCode https://t.co/BtFBNhSx9p #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • ChiSenires Nov 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Now I'm wondering if our undergrad thesis of generating a melody based on a mood of an image can be considered "creative coding"... πŸ€” Makes me sorta miss college πŸ˜† #devdiscuss
  • KyleStratis Nov 7 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Coding is inherently creative. One of the many reasons I left academia for development was that it scratched that creative itch that was being neglected while in the throes of my research. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:05 PM EST
      πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„ Time for the #DevDiscuss Twitter chat. Tonight's topic is CREATIVE CODING πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„πŸ¦„
  • sprkyco Nov 7 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Creative coding is demoscene https://t.co/n8G5yAQtCv #devdiscuss
  • cschmitz81 Nov 7 @ 9:41 PM EST
    My fav type of coding falls into the scope of creative coding: prototypes and proof of concepts :) Having a target to aim for & a blank canvas, focusing on only what's absolutely necessary, safely throwing things away when they don't work. Love it! #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I love it #devdiscuss
    In reply to @iedaddy
  • cschmitz81 Nov 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Hmm, to me the difference between creative & non-creative code is the same line that I see between a programmer & a developer. A programmer writing non-creative code rattles out code without thinking about it. A dev puts though to code & tries to build a good product #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • gdavis92 Nov 7 @ 9:44 PM EST
    What are some of your favorite/most creative side projects that you have created and/or worked on? #DevDiscuss
  • Programazing Nov 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Check out my website/blog at https://t.co/4DAQVTCyCS #DevDiscuss
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    This! My favorite project to work on is when we’re building the prototype and getting fast feedback from stakeholders. #DevDiscuss
    • cschmitz81 Nov 7 @ 9:41 PM EST
      My fav type of coding falls into the scope of creative coding: prototypes and proof of concepts :) Having a target to aim for & a blank canvas, focusing on only what's absolutely necessary, safely throwing things away when they don't work. Love it! #devdiscuss
      In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • bendhalpern Nov 7 @ 9:45 PM EST
    One of the truly brilliant examples of creative coding is the Sonic Pi 🎢 "The Live Coding Music Synth for Everyone" 🎢 Here's a podcast episode about it: https://t.co/7hjRHi8Kt1 #DevDiscuss
  • cschmitz81 Nov 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Not saying a dev always writes good or (non-existent) perfect code, just to say they always try to think about what they're coding and how it affects everything else. I think most people who write code are devs. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @bendhalpern
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:46 PM EST
    You can do anything with IoT... #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • IgnoreIntuition Nov 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Creativity is best left to the designers #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @alanchavezv, @ThePracticalDev
  • cschmitz81 Nov 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Def. My fav part is always getting an app idea or UX (not just UI) mockup and making it happen. The satisfaction of someone's "oh shit! It's working!" moment is exhilarating :D #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @iedaddy
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Computed radiography bouncing lasers of phosphorus plates exposed to X-ray to create digital only scans with no chemicals #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @gdavis92
  • MrThomasRayner Nov 7 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Opens the door a bit, eh?? πŸ˜„ #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ChiSenires
  • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
    In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • Wintermute21 Nov 7 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Started my new job on Monday and I'm already having a big professional impact. #devdiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • iedaddy Nov 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Jumping into the world of devOps, parameterized automation and PowerShell and having a blast making β€œelegant” reusable libraries #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • jepedesu Nov 7 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Just saw this! LOL. I built a simple matrix factorization library for Javascript https://t.co/c8ig85CNzz This can be used for collaborative filtering for recommendation systems :D #devdiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • BunkyFob Nov 7 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I recently started playing with APIstar, and the Dependency Injection and inversion of control really change how you think about things. #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jepedesu Nov 7 @ 9:56 PM EST
    I built a simple matrix factorization library for Javascript https://t.co/c8ig85CNzz This can be used for collaborative filtering for recommendation systems :D #DevDiscuss
    • ThePracticalDev Nov 7 @ 9:52 PM EST
      In the last few minutes of #DevDiscuss, anybody have any news to share, like a project or a personal win, or any other announcement?
  • codingwcookie Nov 7 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I now have my refrigerator connected to the cloud. ☁️ It’s sending temperature data via @Raspberry_Pi to @AzureFunctions which stores it on @cosmosdb πŸ˜€#DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev, @Raspberry_Pi, @AzureFunctions, @cosmosdb
  • edmilson_rocha_ Nov 7 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Finishing building a little messenger widget in my current work using websockets and node. Super fun and I'm feeling pretty smart ;P #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev
  • jarredt Nov 7 @ 9:59 PM EST
    I'm starting my first official dev role this week! #DevDiscuss
    In reply to @ThePracticalDev