#swarmfbchat Archive

The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.
Tuesday January 17, 2017
9:00 PM EST
  • participatechat Jan 17 @ 9:00 PM EST
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  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:00 PM EST
    WELCOME coaches to the Tuesday night #swarmfbchat powered by @JustPlaySS We are chatting FS/SS - get those intros rolling fellas!
    In reply to @JustPlaySS
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:00 PM EST
    All questions are from your fellow coaches - as always, let's help them out with our knowledge and experience! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 17 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Bobby Curran Co-Defensive Coordinator & LB Coach Loyola Blakefield #swarmfbchat
  • CoachEddieYoung Jan 17 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Eddie Young HC Lajeunesse HS Windsor ON #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Trevor Williams, DBs, South Forsyth HS. Salute to the best to ever play the position! #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Skillutt28 Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jeff Lutt Co-DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend High, KS #swarmfbchat
  • CoachPierskalla Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Andy Pierskalla DC Osseo HS- Osseo,MN #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Chris Kizer. DC/DL. Arkadelphia, Ar #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachMocahbee Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Ben Mocahbee DL coach West Clermont HS Cincinnati, OH #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Jacob Gill Secondary Springdale, AR Full Time Pedal-er, part time shuffle-re #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachJoshHadden Jan 17 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Josh Hadden. HC @ Aiken Middle School in Aiken, SC #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Joseph Sam DC/LBs at Mansfield Legacy #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Richard Fong. DC at Oaks Christian high school. Southern California. #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Russ Rothar-DC and safeties coach-Heritage HS, Palm Bay, FL #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Phil Dober - DC - Clements HS -Sugar Land, TX #swarmfbchat
  • The_LB_Coach Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Eric Gibson Southwestern Oklahoma State #swarmfbchat
  • mk6_79 Jan 17 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Michael Horton DC Westside, Arkansas #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Cory Miller Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers Dakota State University #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Nick Velazquez DC Orland HS, CA #swarmfbchat
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Jamelle Byrd DC/LB's- Charlotte NC #swarmfbchat
  • CodyCaseNoSpace Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Cody Case, DEFENSIVE LINE Coach at East Hall High School in Gainesville, GA. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM EST
    We are talking FS/SS tonight; CB play will be next Tues. Can't wait to hear the chatter - I'm moving to DBs myself this year! #swarmfbchat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Greg Wallis Tuttle, Okla #swarmfbchat
  • CoachRmcD60 Jan 17 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Ryan Mcdonald OL Mooresville HS (IN) #swarmfbchat
  • thomps_03 Jan 17 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Ryan Thompson HC/DC Ashland-Greenwood, NE #SWARMFBCHAT
  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Travis Raley, DBs, Flowery Branch HS #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Jason Conley unemployed DB coach!! Will work for pizza. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAmara Jan 17 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Speedy Amara DC & Defensive Backs Coach East High School, Madison, WI #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Destry Cope DC Clear Creek HS League City Tx #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: Most asked Q; What are your vision keys and how do you break one from looking in the backfield? 1 high/2 high if poss. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Cody G Park City, UT DC/LB/RB #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBarcenez Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Kris Barcenez Somerset Texas TE coach. Ready to talk some ball! #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
    May be an exciting Curse of Oak Island tonight. Might not be on my game!! Lol #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: Two High look we are reading the #2 WR to side. Run pattern match concept so can't get eyes in backfield with coverage #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: have to have eyes on man in pattern read #SWARMFBCHAT
  • thejwfoster3 Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM EST
    John Foster. Secondary Coach Smith County High School Carthage, TN #swarmfbchat
  • DCCoachP Jan 17 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: We look at 1st uncovered OL. Any question on what you are seeing treat it as pass. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachMHochard Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 2 high. Eyes on 2. If he breaks short eyes to 1. If he is going deep we carry. CB drop and drag eyes on 2 looking for break #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: Most asked Q; What are your vision keys and how do you break one from looking in the backfield? 1 high/2 high if poss. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I mean - it's a habit - you have to be on your kids and watch them as they watch their key if you want to break a bad habit #swarmfbchat
  • jrmyhanson Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Jeremy Hanson HC/OC Blair-Taylor, WI #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: it all depends on the coverage that you are trying to run #swarmfbchat
  • coachdober Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: 2-high vision key is EMOL (run/pass) to #2 receiver. Even on run read, we teach to never run by a #2 who is running a route #swarmfbchat
  • mk6_79 Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Run a lot of 2 Read, so they have no choice. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Aaron Craig, HD freshman coach, Junction City, KS. 20 years, high school and college. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1) Depending on the FS or WS & coverage. But they may be reading the backfield. WS in "sky" will cross read backs. 2read - #2 #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Have tried different things. RPOs have made EMLOS key hard to teach now. Not peaking comes from success/failure for each kid #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: in 2 high we read last linemen in the box then progress to #2 on pass read #1 high read field guard #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: very tough- 1 high has to read through the line to backfield. Drill high vs low hat. #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A2) 2 High, read #2 or EMOL. Stress from day 1 we don't care what goes on in backfield. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    1 high = ball key. Depth = Vision. Late run supporter. On Pass eyes work #2 to #2 or 3-2-1 vs, 3x1. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachJoshHadden Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Hash or outside safety reads end man on LOS #swarmfbchat
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Q1: we were 1 high (C3 base) team so vision key is #2 CB is secondary contain vs run so play pass first rally late to run #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:12 PM EST
    We read everything from #2 emol uncovered lineman and lane of football. It depends on what gives us the fastest key #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Only the corners are pass first and OL are liars, so we will steal looks. #swarmfbchat
  • SSHS_CoachCoons Jan 17 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: With 2 high safeties vision keys change based on if there is a #2 receiver to their side or only #1 WR formation based. #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I will say the simpler the read the faster they play. Certain people can't lie #swarmfbchat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 2 high eyes on first uncovered in 10 per if any 11 per te read #swarmfbchat
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: end man, more like "fat man on LOS," to your side. Action to you, slide to #1bf action away, slide to #2bf away. 2 high #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachAmara Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    @rmacblue it's my first time in this chat! Still trying to get the hang of it! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: I prefer quarters but if we are playing cover 2 read is #2 #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    2 high w/ no rotation, eyes go mesh to WR. May be an outlier, but don't like keying OL & can't eye WR unless man. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 cont: one year taped a stripe on the helmet to see where their eyes 'pointed' on film. Made them turn heads not just eyes. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1 The SS keys the quarterback for run/pass key ball up= pass...ball down=run main thing is don't go until you know #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1. Two High key #2 WR to #1 WR to your side. Hard to break eyes into the backfield. 1/2 line route combo to rep eyes. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHays13 Jan 17 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: used to read end man on LOS, now Ball high ball low unless in man or match. #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1. Run/pass key EMLOS to backfield. If pass then read inside out use "Next man outside" rule #swarmfbchat
  • CarsonRileyDad Jan 17 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: Am I only coach who has players who hate trying to read EMOL, reads are slow and some OL can be pretty sloppy #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:15 PM EST
    So true in this day and age of football #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CODY_GARDNER
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Think you can peak in BF, especially vs RPO heavy teams, but eyes must scan for info. Working progression is key. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:15 PM EST
    2 High, we read #2 to EMOL...work a high hat/low hat drill with 2 WR's & 2 linemen #SWARMFBCHAT
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I also think you have to have BASE rules - scheme should not always take you away from pass/run reads IMO #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Jan 17 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 We were 2 Hi Cov 0, Safeties never played run unless there man blocked... "You cover this guy always" #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:16 PM EST
    how well did this work?? #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachTWill22
  • SSHS_CoachCoons Jan 17 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 cont: breaking a player from looking in the backfield is reps upon reps. Having him learn from his mistakes. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach__French Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Cody French Defensive line coach Seymour, IN #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1. Defensive coaches tend to stand behind the defense. I move around and watch their eyes from behind the offense.#swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Also think understanding scheme, coverage rules, & soft spots help kids have better picture. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CoachTWill22
  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: 2 High, we read #2 all the way. I've found it better than EMOL in high school. Must preach eye discipline every day! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Already after only one question in I'm like... lol #liveinthetrenches #swarmfbchat
  • CoachGrayvold Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1 Read your keys! Depending on coverage will depend your key. Have to be disciplined, no magic answer. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Q2: Another good one - HOW do you teach your FS/SS to play man vs WR off the ball? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSReid Jan 17 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat late, but here, Scott Reid DL tomball, tx
  • thejwfoster3 Jan 17 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1 we don't read lineman. They lie. High school WRs tend to give a clear picture faster. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I'm partial to Belichick's when in doubt G.Y.A.B. Gain depth helps gain vision. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachRmcD60 Jan 17 @ 9:18 PM EST
    What's your alignment to 3x1 or 3x2 in 3-4 2 high safety #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBarcenez Jan 17 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Has to depend on formation. Then preparation throughout the week dictates reads #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMHochard Jan 17 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 we don't. Only our corners ever play man. We are always 2/3 or 2 solo. Never man. #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:20 PM EST
    This definitely has to be a route and run recognition practice idea. Beat the O's main plays into them #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @SSHS_CoachCoons
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 17 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Active feet. Sit. Punch V of the next hand on hip, ride. Prepare to FIGHT! LOVE MAN! #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2) We play off man, WR being off isn't & issue. Biggest thing is I want DBs on same side playing man to be at different depths #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKelleyAHS Jan 17 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Zach Kelley. DC and LB coach at Dallas Adamson in TX. Host of #425chat at 8pm Central. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:20 PM EST
    worked really well. Could see when they 'peaked' think telling them why made an impact too. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @JasonConley20
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: I love catch man technique. Mirror inside hip of WR, collision and force outside #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q2: motor and mirror. Punch at the hip and open to the man. Don't give up inside leverage. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAmara Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1) 1 high, SS spins down keying #2 to EMLOS. If no detached #2, EMLOS through backfield. #swarmfbchat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1: Always like to key tackle. Can come quick and fill vs run. #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    if you guys would just tackle the ball early, we wouldn't be having this chat!! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachMocahbee
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: know your opponents speed, play the ball side hip and play top side shoulder on cuts. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachHays13 Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: Depends on width from #1. If traditional slot we are inside shoulder off coverage allowing us to switch the crossing route #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2) We use a bounce man technique. Step down on snap to 6-7 and bounce until route declares. Watch hands and maintain leverage #swarmfbchat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A1: Rep out in practice to break bad habit of looking in the backfield. One of my pet peeves! #swarmfbchat
  • WR_CoachHepp Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Steven Hepp DC Wisconsin Rapids HS #swarmfbchat
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    We work a "catch" man technique off the ball. Work press with the corners & catch with FS/SS. Got the term catch from a clinic #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 they must know if they have help or no help. If I have post safety help outside unless WR over split no help inside lev1/2 #swarmfbchat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 flat foot read inside leverage inside hand press to the sideline we are bringing the house #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: we play a catch technique buzz down to 7 with hot feet then work leverage if you have MOF defender #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    . @CoachRmcD60 Play it like Under vs 3x1 & set the edges w/ a Buck Front to Empty. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @CoachRmcD60
  • coachdober Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: come down to 5 yds from LOS. Inside mirror. Force outside release and be ready for quick throw. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: mostly off-man inside leverage and forcing the outside throw. Looking in to more press looks this year. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Th3K1nG15 Jan 17 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A1) Run a 2 read so they don't have a choice #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMocahbee Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    @rmacblue that's why we had the dline chat first lol #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @JasonConley20, @rmacblue
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: must take a charge if they want to go vertical #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBarcenez Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: teach different techniques based on coverage. Taxi down and press or press bail even trail. Reps and skelly #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Would love to see some drill tape on Catch man technique. #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    That is partly why we play off man, we play 2read so "closing" space is part & pre-snap it all looks the same. tech needs xover #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAmara Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A1) 2 high, both $afties key #2 to #1 in soft 2/qtrs. #swarmfbchat
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Freezy Smalls II, Jack Britt HS, Safeties Coach #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2- start by taking the inside away. So slight shade. Then work man drills. Mirror drill, track the hip, fade drill #swarmfbchat
  • CodyCaseNoSpace Jan 17 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Ummm.... #swarmfbchat
  • CoachJoshHadden Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: D&D and field position to maintain inside leverage. Read inside hip. Follow. #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2. Our SS would be in man vs. 3x1. We'd be in man free w/1 high FS. Inside leverage, track the hip. Absorb impact and run feet #swarmfbchat
  • SSHS_CoachCoons Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: If in 2 High Safeties we play soft man if SS down we play inside leverage and jam and run with receiver. #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Jan 17 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A1: In a match quarters scheme the secondary has to key #2 while relating to the departure of their main threat. LBs read OL. #SWARMFBCHAT
    • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: Most asked Q; What are your vision keys and how do you break one from looking in the backfield? 1 high/2 high if poss. #swarmfbchat
  • Th3K1nG15 Jan 17 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2) Inside leverage and force the throw outside. Mainly look for quick passes. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Jan 17 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2: off man in the slot..press on the outside. Inside hip engage/reroute no matter #swarmfbchat
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A1 playing zone we read 2 to 1 but sometimes we read end man on LOS to help in run game we love safeties getting downhill fast #SWARMFBCHAT
    • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: Most asked Q; What are your vision keys and how do you break one from looking in the backfield? 1 high/2 high if poss. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachGrayvold Jan 17 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2 Also depends on coverage. Leverage, depth, technique all depend on what coverage we're in + isnit man vs. zone #SWARMFBCHAT
  • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: Punch and open with receiver , mirror technique #swarmfbchat
  • cahsfbchat Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2 we give him free choice on depth, but we want to force OS release #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2 2/2 post safety help play trail tech play out cut squeeze WR to help No help slow out gets within yds transition stay on top #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A2) Biggest thing with off man is to soak up the route and blanket WR. Seen to many guys get beat being over aggressive #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Q3: Flat foot read vs Backpedal? Why/When/Reasoning? #swarmfbchat What about starting distance from LOS?
  • The_Coach_A Jan 17 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Step-off read the hips, collision & carry, if the WR breaks out or runs a post TOP the route & compress. Don't press w/ Safs. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 we use catch tech. we keep inside leverage and key the inside hip; we dont want a motor out because comebacks get us #SWARMFBCHAT
  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2: Have calls to mix off-man or press for safeties. We mostly play a softer press so we are going to be 1 yard off regardless #swarmfbchat
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2: SS plays outside leverage catch man collision and carry feed to FS....CB plays press inside leverage off hand jam shuffle #swarmfbchat
  • thomps_03 Jan 17 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 Dony play lot straight man. Off coverage would flat/buzz feet, read route, attack hip keeping inside leverage best we can #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMHochard Jan 17 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 I prefer flat at 17. We backpedal from 11-14. I think it's wasted steps. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • DCCoachP Jan 17 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: We actually use a stick step. We always step down to the box first. CV4 shell want Safeties down hill right now. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachBarcenez Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: has to be a mixture of both depending on what coverage is called. DD and field position plays a part #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I teach a "step-off" or step-replace. It keeps the feet on the ground = fast breaks. #SWARMFBCHAT Pedagogy Link :: https://t.co/5X5DTpprZ3
  • coachdober Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: in quarters, 8 yds from LOS flatfoot/buzz feet read. In 2-read, 9-10 from LOS backpedal step first #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: Been backpedal guy just b/c we play pass 1st. Will flat foot read in certain D/D. Give freedom of 10-12 yards deep #SWARMFBCHAT
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    did off man make it tougher against RPO's or bubbles? #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @Coach_Miller21
  • cahsfbchat Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q3 Backpedal - its easier to start going backward and then come forward. Depth we give free choice if detached press-8yds #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: as a quarters guy we have a mix of coverage who has 2 in flats if it's safety buzz down from 12 to 9 then play flat footed #swarmfbchat
  • brgredd Jan 17 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3 we're always buzzing our feet feel like it gives a quicker break towards route runner #swarmfbchat
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: it all depends on coverage and who's run support in the secondary #swarmfbchat
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3) False step, pick the foot up 2" & back down. Give the brain a chance "see" what is happening. Better late than wrong #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: if CB has 2 in flats slow controlled backpetal #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3) Flat foot read. Play press 1/4s as base and we want our safeties as run first players. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Flat foot in any 2Read, Pattern, Match 1/4s scheme. Pedal out in any zone scheme where FS/WS is playing high to low. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: we clear our cleats based on LOS read & action to or away. CB only ones who backpedal. We clear, turn/close, run. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: to clarify we never play without buzzing our feet #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Jan 17 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: we put butt to sideline and drivefor corners We don't back pedal on outside. Become less athletic. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: 8 yds in quarters flat footed. 12-15 in 2 read with walk pedal based on speed of WR. #swarmfbchat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:32 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:32 PM EST
      A3: Always say that first step should be backpedal. You can recover forward, you can't always gain depth. Also depends on coverage
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: if 3x1 we like to be 5x1 on 2&3 to bracket them in and slow read in man tech. 2x2 its a solo call and we are catch tech #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Believe footwork ties into run for responsibility. If MOF in C3 I don't want that guy flat footing. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 2 hi start clear cleet read step 1 hi start slow back tempo on by 3rd pedal #swarmfbchat
  • thomps_03 Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 Flat from 8-10 yards off LOS, gives chance to read then react to run/pass, we feel comfortable at that depth for what we see #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    that's what I thought. Do you simply roll into man or disguise as another coverage? #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @Coach_Miller21
  • thejwfoster3 Jan 17 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3 we are primarily press quarters, so flat foot or step and gather down hill from 9yds. Want to play aggressively #swarmfbchat
  • CoachGrayvold Jan 17 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3 We actually do either. We kick slide for depth every single snap. Don't like pedaling, don't like flat footing. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3 if we r playing 4 or 2 read we take a rocker step which is read step if we r playing a dp 1/2,1/3 we open up & get over top #swarmfbchat
  • mk6_79 Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: Use a slow back peddle. feel like it give safeties time to make correct decision. #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3. We bounce the feet. Let the OLB bring #2 to the FS. Helps with safety run support. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    We teach buzz their feet, depth for CB is 6-8 in C3 or 4. Depth for FS/SS are 10-12. But we also show press and bail too #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: determined by DandD. Definitely want a backpedal in long distance plays. Also by coverage. I like quick buzz in C4. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHays13 Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: We call it a slow pedal read. I don't like to say flat feet it implies slow play. 8 off IS shoulder Slow pedal, attack. #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Alignment in 4-Read = 10yds/2-Read = 12yds (fast bail/backpedal) but in each hold the inside shoulder of the WR (match cov). #SWARMFBCHAT
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: depth wise, you want to keep as close to the same as possible regardless of coverage to throw offense off, unless in man #SWARMFBCHAT
  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Backpedal on the snap in 2-Read. Ensures safety can get on top of #1 when #2 is not vertical. #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:36 PM EST
    4-3 coach #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @Coach_Firestone
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3) Based in Coverage. If Safeties are in run fit-Flat Foot Reads. If not controlled pedal out. Depth is based on formation #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A3: I'm an 10-12 guy regardless of coverage always look the same pre snap #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Q4: How do you teach your Safeties their Run fits? Drills? #swarmfbchat
  • SSHS_CoachCoons Jan 17 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A3: play safeties at 8-10yds. Have players pretty much pick feet up and put them down while they read #swarmfbchat
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A3: We see alot of quick game so flat food read is better for us plus not everyone can backpedal....5-7 yds off LOS #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:39 PM EST
    As usual, you guys are really making this chat valuable - you are doing a great job giving advice to those who DM'ed me the Qs #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: safeties fit lane 2, which to us is between #2 & #1 WR. Work what I call butt &I press drill with corner 2 work fits here #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4) Run the alley or Force. We do ask them to do both. Like to work with end, Olb & safety as a group. #swarmfbchat
  • WR_CoachHepp Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A3: generally safties are flat and corners BP. Will adjust based on D/D, coverage, and athletic ability #swarmfbchat
  • CoachHays13 Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: Outside- in Hawk Roll! Lots of ring drills or open field pin the outside hip, free is the force player... bite the ball! #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    We work a Leverage Drill I got from a Glasgow clinic tape for all our 1/4s reads. Changes if a deep zone player. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: we teach a run and gather for hitting the alley #SWARMFBCHAT https://t.co/ehnVT4kB2I
  • coachdober Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: half-line & inside drill. OLBs communicate nonverbally with S before each snap so S knows whether to box ball or run alley. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSReid Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A4 depended on the responsibility of OLB'S in that if they were contain the $'s would be downhill and vice versa
  • CoachMHochard Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4 we teach them to run alleys on fast flow play side. Watch for cutback backside. Inside runs we fly up to make plays #swarmfbchat
  • CoachPierskalla Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: our safeties(3-5-3) rotate from Skelly to inside run during the week to practice run fits with front guys #swarmfbchat
  • CoachByrd_ Jan 17 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: I bring the down safeties to inside drill sometimes so they can work on forcing the run and cutback fold #swarmfbchat
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: in the 33 stack, we play SS as OLB, so read EMOL. Teach kids how to read blocks in Indy period. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: we run the alley, build the wall off the spill, & work with OLBs to make their fit right. We play off their fit on the run. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachPierskalla Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4 cont: we expect our safeties to wrap or thud just like front guys in their run fit #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: once the get a run read down to 5 then turn into a shuffle play prefer outside in p #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Palladino Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: low hat from tackle fill ally outside in #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCurran42 Jan 17 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: Bring S's to INSIDE RUN. Let them see the picture come together #swarmfbchat
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: our safeties and corners work tandem in tackles, safeties inside/out corner outside/in. We are spill team #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachSReid Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A4 drills is like half line but skeleton, olb Coach and safety Coach work coverage and run fits v. scout team blocking
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Alley is usually easy, getting them to fit force is tougher or they'd be LBs. #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4) Use fit drill. With OL strip & scout as #2 WR. Coach does cadence. S to play is force - fits off WR block. S away - cutback #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4: safeties do inside drill no 2 plays every fit the same they always have to make the LB right #swarmfbchat
  • jrmyhanson Jan 17 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Not an answer to a question, but does anyone have a good description of inside & outside run fit drills & be willing to share #swarmfbchat
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4: locate near hip/#, track, attack, breakdown, wrap up through. Never go inside closest teammate or across to other #/hip. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CODY_GARDNER Jan 17 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Lastly and maybe most important, is there fold cutback angles and depth. Flow away, elevate & check you A #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A4) Inside Run is the best for working run fits. We will work the fork drill in Indy to teach our safety to fit off overhang #swarmfbchat
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4 work flow to an away in 2 hi like safeties to run the pipe #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:44 PM EST
    They're great. We have 2. Don't know cost but way better look than scared sophomore. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @freezysmalls, @rmacblue, @CoachHays13
  • thomps_03 Jan 17 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4 Funnel Drill with LBs vs 2 OG/backfield, steps read attack-SS/WS set edge/CRAB bside, LB inside out/bside A, FS Finishes #swarmfbchat
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:44 PM EST
    I use that one every day! Made a big difference with my guys. #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @freezysmalls
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4: just as important is fitting RPOs like option and fitting the quick screen game. Post/inside/alley. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachGrayvold Jan 17 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4 Get those boys to inside run. BIG THING is make sure they don't cheat in inside run. Make them take read steps then play run #SWARMFBCHAT
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4 for safeties r better athletes have to be the "eraser" #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Q5: I need this as I head back to coaching DBs....What are your KEY EDDs with coaching points for Safeties? #swarmfbchat
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4. Depends on the coverage and who's tracking the pec of the ball carrier. Safety always "Caps" the run play. #swarmfbchat
  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A4: Safeties make the OLB right as they run the alley. Safeties become force to 1WR side vs big split. Do 3 v 3 perimeter drill #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A4) Down your stem, stack, and fit is our coaching points #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:47 PM EST
    In other words - what are the most important skills to possess as a Safety and how do you work them? #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:47 PM EST
    frntsd fit gap if ball gets spilled 2 me stack inside ft on outside ft of spiller Bkside work to lb depth fit 1st open gap u c #SWARMFBCHAT
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:47 PM EST
    @CoachMocahbee No one cheats in inside run!!! Lol #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachGrayvold, @CoachMocahbee
  • PigSkinCoach Jan 17 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A4 plays away use the term "cobra" cutback, boot, reverse #swarmfbchat
  • CoachMHochard Jan 17 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5 backpedal, point, break drive. High point/attack ball. Skelly, 2v2 C/s pract. eyes on rec. for reads #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Q5: I'm a ladder guy everyday work feet, great feet make great players #swarmfbchat
  • CoachPierskalla Jan 17 @ 9:48 PM EST
    we make sure to put in PA pass and screens to keep them honest #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachGrayvold
  • Coach_JGill Jan 17 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Change the drills but always: footwork, eyes, tackle, ball skill, coverage. Some overlap, but always want those. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKizer Jan 17 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: Hawk tackle, butt and press run fits, work footwork, work routes and how you fit based coverage working technique #SWARMFBCHAT
  • 3anout Jan 17 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A4. We use a drill series called "He chop, I chop". Half line run and pass for fits and pursuit angles. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachTWill22 Jan 17 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5: Tackle, footwork/ball drills, run/pass rec., formation alignments. Then route combos and trips work. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachRmcD60 Jan 17 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5. 5touch. Buddy arm. Combo read #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAmara Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A4) safeties are usually alley players. Our tues pracs serve as inside run days & wed as skelly days so safties can be at both #swarmfbchat.
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    S/o to @rmacblue for using term, EDD's! #SWARMFBCHAT
    In reply to @rmacblue, @rmacblue
  • coachjsam Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: smart (in our scheme), good feet, hips, eye discipline, good tacklers. Best overall athletes on D should play safety #swarmfbchat
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Our safety has to know all of our coverages & checks. Must know the scouting report inside & out. Allot of film time together #swarmfbchat
  • CarsonRileyDad Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5) Our S are usually QBs on O, so we want 1) intelligence, 2) communicator, and also want them to be aggressive #swarmfbchat
  • coachrothar Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: box tackling drill, ball drills I actually just use the passing tree #swarmfbchat
  • SSHS_CoachCoons Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: Safeties have to be your toughest DB's who can cover and like to come down hill and tackle. Play Run and Pass! #swarmfbchat
  • BenClubb32 Jan 17 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Strong side safety run the alley, FS or backside watch for cutback. Safeties are vital at getting to the ball and filling #swarmfbchat
  • Tpeck2 Jan 17 @ 9:51 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat A5) Do not give up your zone until you see long arm motion, if in man, be aggressive coming down hill. Be the best tackler ever
  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: another tough question. It mainly depends on coverage working that day. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachACraig Jan 17 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: I feel any "game like," action you can put your players through is better. Never did ladders on the field when playing. #SWARMFBCHAT
  • CoachPierskalla Jan 17 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A5: deeper than the deepest, go up and get ball, tackle!, be patient (no guessing), and REPS! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachM_Hancock Jan 17 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Gotta be good tackler & not afraid to be the enforcer! Being a ball hawk helps too! #swarmfbchat
  • freezysmalls Jan 17 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5: when I first started out this is what I found for EDDs https://t.co/GGZhMaJlzR this video is my favorite I have found #SWARMFBCHAT
  • Coach_Miller21 Jan 17 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A5) Footwork and Hips and Angles. Cones, Running 180's, Breaks are drills we do every day. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSReid Jan 17 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat teach the high point of a ball or make them play wr on offense to learn that
  • Tpeck2 Jan 17 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A4) I teach during scrimmage. The space involved is hard to simulate during drill. I rep tackling a ton. Learn alleys to a T #swarmfbchat
  • DCcoachV Jan 17 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5) run fit, 1/4s & 2 read beaters.. also work deep outs, digs, posts/corners/go routes. Ball drills we mix in. #swarmfbchat
  • coachDCope Jan 17 @ 9:54 PM EST
    a5 footwork everyday angle open field leverage & sideline tackle diff one each day route recognition from formations ck cov #swarmfbchat
  • Tpeck2 Jan 17 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A3) Backpedal for cloud coverages, flat footed if man. Need to keep ball in front in zone, react downhill in man. 8-12 by speed #swarmfbchat
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  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5: had a practice sheet with drills and tried to hit main drills of the week. ABC format. Agility, block dest, contact (tackle)#swarmfbchat
  • thomps_03 Jan 17 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A5 feet, breaks, etc early then work more game-like as possible once season starts. Believe group work develops skills needed #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Jan 17 @ 9:55 PM EST
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  • CoachGrayvold Jan 17 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A5 Open field tackle, playing man from depth, learning how to run the alley, and above all being a PASS first guy! #swarmfbchat
  • Tpeck2 Jan 17 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A2) If they are back, flat footed read to drive... if close, my S always press. Use their size to advantage, push inside to LBs #swarmfbchat
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  • JasonConley20 Jan 17 @ 9:58 PM EST
    @rmacblue Good time!! wanna try this again next week?? Lol #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
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  • travisraley Jan 17 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A5: Tackling= sprint/shimmy, tracking, box drill. Cov.= off-man tech, ball drills (high point) Traits= smart, instincts,& nasty #swarmfbchat