#G2Great Archive

This chat is dedicated to continuing the conversation about teacher reflection it's based on Dr. Mary Howard's book Good to Great Teaching.

Thursday August 23, 2018
8:30 PM EDT

  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #G2Great @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @brennanamy and I are so glad you decided to join us as awe welcome, @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan!
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome! WELCOME! We're so glad you are joining our #G2Great chat with Julie and Barry: "What are you grouping for?" @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @CorwinPress
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Hey, #g2great friends! I'm joining from Tokyo, Japan.
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to #G2great chat friends. We are so grateful that you’re joining us tonight and so honored that Julie Wright and Barry Hoonan are our guests. I love their new book so much that I wrote the forward. Please tell us who is here tonight @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    That’s amazing Tonya. I’m so impressed you’re here. What time is it in Tokyo? #G2Great
  • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Happy to start the year off with my #g2great colleagues - Molly, teacher educator & author
  • jorgovan45 Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    here #G2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @juliewright4444, @BarryHoonan
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi Mollie. So happy you’re here. #G2Great
    • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Happy to start the year off with my #g2great colleagues - Molly, teacher educator & author
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Valinda, literacy consultant from TX. Excited to be chatting about all things grouping tonight. #g2great
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Brent from Magrath, A week and a half until students return. Happy to learn with others tonight. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Thank you for joining in the conversation tonight. #G2Great
    • jorgovan45 Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      here #G2great
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @juliewright4444, @BarryHoonan
  • ToriBachman Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hey #G2Great friends! This is Tori in Maine, catching up after a little time away. Excited to hang out with @juliewright4444 & @BarryHoonan this evening!
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Hi friend ❤️ #G2Great
    • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Brent from Magrath, A week and a half until students return. Happy to learn with others tonight. #g2great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Thank you to @CorwinPress for supporting teachers with great prof texts. Thank you for the #G2Great swag! @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    One more quote to get the conversation started #G2Great with Julie and Barry: "What are you grouping for?" @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @CorwinPress
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Welcome, Tonya! #G2Great
    In reply to @Mrs_Gilchrist
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Hi Val so happy to see you here! #G2Great
    • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:31 PM EDT
      Valinda, literacy consultant from TX. Excited to be chatting about all things grouping tonight. #g2great
  • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Excited to join tonight and talk about small group instruction #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Thank you, Corwin. One lucky "chatter" will be going home with a new book! @CorwinPress #g2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Same to you Val! #G2Great
    • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      Happy to be here. Hope you've had a good week, Mary!
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Hey, Friends! I’m Julie from NY. We are so grateful for the opportunity to learn with and from each of you tonight! A HUGE thank you to everyone for jumping in and sharing ideas! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    It’s so great to see you Tori. So happy you’re going to hang with us all! #G2Great
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    9:30 AM...I'm so excited to make it this week because once school is in full swing, I likely won't be able to. Getting the questions beforehand helped, too. 💗 #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Ashley, Instructional Lit Coach for grades 3/4 from CT, but I am an elem classroom tchr (all subjects!) & lover of teaching at heart. Still peeling paint off my hands after working on my last summer painting project! Looking forward to a great chat about grouping! #g2great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Vanessa - Casper WY elementary SPED #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    John from STL MO 3rd grade T. Toddler bath time here so checking in as much as possible. 😁 #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    HI Gravity. I”m so happy you’re adding your voice to this very important conversation! #G2Great
    • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:32 PM EDT
      Excited to join tonight and talk about small group instruction #g2great
  • jorgovan45 Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    #G2great I have a whole rant on this grouping thing i want to share! #whatarewegroupingfor
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Hi Ashley. So glad you are with us. Can't wait to learn with you. #G2Great
    In reply to @AshleyLS_16
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    There’s nothing quite as passionate powerful as collegial conversations Julie. So happy that you’re helping us ponder small groups! #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:33 PM EDT
      Hey, Friends! I’m Julie from NY. We are so grateful for the opportunity to learn with and from each of you tonight! A HUGE thank you to everyone for jumping in and sharing ideas! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1. Assess learning = what know, what almost know, & where no clue! & What behaviors are also visible? Talking? Trying? Passively waiting? Leave room? Are partners working? So much info that helps planning! #G2Great
  • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A1: When I kidwatch, I learn that kids' errors are really their instructional sweet spot (hello ZPD & Vygotsky!) #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    I'm Barry from Seattle via Brasilia.#G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Hello Gravity! How's little Leo? :) #G2Great Honored to learn with you.
    In reply to @drgravityg
  • maryannesacco Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Looming forward to joining tonight @juliewright4444 and @BarryHoonan on the conversation about small groups #G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Hello #g2great friends. Can’t wait to hear what and how it goes with your small groups. Faige here sub teacher in Los Angeles
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    Let it rip. #G2Great
    In reply to @jorgovan45
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    @franmcveigh I wonder what you will say about small group instruction! LOL! Looking forward to #g2great for the next hour or so!
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 Kidwatching is the purest form of assessment. It requires us to collect data that go well beyond numbers, giving us insight into Ss curiosities, passions, habits, and needs. The more we know, the more likely our instructional decisions will have value for them. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 Everything! I see patterns unfold that gives me insight to their habits. Once I find an unproductive habit I can change the trigger. Never underestimate the power of looking and listening. #G2Great @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1 I love this idea of “slowing down.” I think that as Ts we feel that we must be in constant motion but this slowing allows us to become more present in the heat of learning moments. So powerful. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    We welcome thinking connected to the conversation but remember the we’re talking about temporary small groups that are joyful and meaningful. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    Hi Faige! #G2Great
    • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      Hello #g2great friends. Can’t wait to hear what and how it goes with your small groups. Faige here sub teacher in Los Angeles
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A1: The watching gives us a piece of their story. The silent things they do, the distractions. I feel like watching is the first step to learning their stories. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    So happy to see you Mary Anne! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 Kidwatching helps us know Ss likes and dislikes, what they do in their free time and what they aspire to do, see, and become. #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 everything from how engaged they are to their interests and personalities. Kid watching is powerful stuff! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Welcome Melanie!! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Well, guess who should lead it? Not always the teacher! That's for sure! #g2great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: A huge part of kidwatching is both being present and active https://t.co/3EPvuFwr1s are reminded that #kidsarepeopletoo. You learn about each child as a unique, incredible individual. You build relationships. And it's all about relationships. https://t.co/7Bv59Wtn8z #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    What a great group. Thrilled. #G2Great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1 So much! How students engage, communicate, learn, show what they know #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A1: Loved this post from @LannyBall about noticing! https://t.co/mXKmo8f12O #twtblog #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Beautifully said and it informs out practices far more than any spreadsheet possible could! #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
      A1 Kidwatching is the purest form of assessment. It requires us to collect data that go well beyond numbers, giving us insight into Ss curiosities, passions, habits, and needs. The more we know, the more likely our instructional decisions will have value for them. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Yes! Building the theory of what we think we know, based on what we hear and see (even when things are silent or quiet) is so important! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1 Academically – What do students know/are able to do in relation to the standards, learning targets, and success criteria. Kidwatching helps us take note of Ss understandings and misconceptions as we model, guide, and watch them try things. #G2Great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1. How partner read is going. Who may be pretend reading. Who is really lost in/enjoying a text. #G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @juliewright4444, @BarryHoonan
  • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    I get curious from my kid watching. I find questions I want to ask the readers. I often get more questions than answers and that is what makes it is exciting and fun. The journey with the kids. #g2great
    • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:35 PM EDT
      A1. Assess learning = what know, what almost know, & where no clue! & What behaviors are also visible? Talking? Trying? Passively waiting? Leave room? Are partners working? So much info that helps planning! #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1 Great question! Love @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan commitment to slowing down observations of Ss. Every time I learn not only by observing products (Ss showing how they know), but even more important their processes. That tells me if they own (transfer) strategies yet.#g2great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Yes and this 👇🏻 Kidwatch tells us so much. How kids approach, how they figure things out, when they seek help. It’s all there, just need to watch #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:36 PM EDT
      A1 Kidwatching is the purest form of assessment. It requires us to collect data that go well beyond numbers, giving us insight into Ss curiosities, passions, habits, and needs. The more we know, the more likely our instructional decisions will have value for them. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A1: So important to value kid-watching. Sometimes it feels like it's time not teaching, but it's time well spent! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    Love the "silent things they do, the distractions," Brent #G2Great
    In reply to @mrbgilson
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    And it can’t be something that we just schedule in the day. Rather it’s a mindset that is simply what we do… a habit that helps us to tune in to what we see hear notice and wonder! #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:37 PM EDT
      A1 Kidwatching helps us know Ss likes and dislikes, what they do in their free time and what they aspire to do, see, and become. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1 One of many things I learned from Marie Clay is that he lesson plan is sitting right in front of us. Kids are “talking” to us and if we are very wise we will listen for those signs along the way. #G2Great
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A 1 Learn so much! Level of engagement; Reading stamina; how Ss choose books; questions; interest in discussing; how the work in a team; likes, dislikes, relationships with others. Everything eyes and ears show us. #g2great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Hello Mary, always good to spend time with you #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A1: everything! you can watch for attitude, content, behavior, skills, use of materials, how they respond to challenges, etc. I find I can learn just as much (if not more) abt my Ss by taking 1 min to scan room or dedicating time to just watching for one of those things #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    We’re thrilled you’re here tonight Bonnie! #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:34 PM EDT
      Bonnie - Literacy Coach. Looking forward to joining the chat tonight and learning!
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @juliewright4444, @BarryHoonan
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Thanks, Val! So many things we can learn if we but LISTEN! #g2great
    In reply to @vrkimmel
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1 Socially – We kidwatch to understand how our students interact with others in the classroom, grade level, school, home, and greater community. We learn about their social stamina, when/how they lead & follow, whom do they lean on when they succeed or struggle. #G2Great
  • ToriBachman Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Happy book birthday, @juliewright4444 @barryhoonan - so excited for you! #G2Great https://t.co/Y0TgihZlBN
  • maryannesacco Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: taking time to step back and watch, Observe, record, notice gives us more information to support growth #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1: Engagement inventories from @JSerravallo are great. https://t.co/6yhdkvlX4q #g2great Can be customizd for different classes, different content.
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    I did too and loved the terms that he posed in the post #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1 Sometimes I capture kidwatching moments in my classroom with a photograph. This gives me the chance to talk to students from a visual cue and ask follow-up questions. #G2Great
  • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A1 I also learn what my focus is on and what I am paying attention to and what I might be missing from what I tend to notice when kid watching. #G2Great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Great way to put it. Slowing down does wonders for finding the why's behind the won'ts when it comes to independent reading (distractions) #g2great
    In reply to @franmcveigh, @mrbgilson
  • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Q2: As a word study lover, I always use spelling / orthography knowledge as vital grouping information #g2great @PamKou
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 Our day-to-day on-the-spot noticings help us to the patterns that begin to emerge. We can translate these into instructional moves that can be used to contemplate next step actions. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    We are so thankful for you and the Corwin staff for all of your support! Many thanks! @ToriBachman @CorwinPress #G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 Slowing down...watching for engagement, behavior, patterns. When patterns emerge, we can begin to see the learners before us. #g2great
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Seeing @drgravityg post reminds me I have a video to shoot and I am already nervous lol #g2great #teachlikeyourself
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A1 Kidwatching or ‘all eyes on deck” slows me down and helps me highlight what is going right in my classroom. Ending reading wrkshp with thank yous made from observations increases the chances that ss will see we are a community of celebration not critique. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Great phase Brent… and there is s much hidden within that silence! #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1 As you listen in while kids work/meet in small groups, you may notice a need. Your intervention can be discovering Ss interests as a way to address needs. Kidwatching creates opportunities for needs & interests to overlap. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1 Perhaps one of the most profound things kidwatching teaches me is to take a moment to look around and not say anything. Call it a ‘poetic pause’ and jot.#G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Ditto my friend! #G2Great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Hello #g2great! Elisa, grade 5 T in Calgary. Late, but here and going to try to manage two chats at the same time on my phone tonight!
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    Helps to build relationships and build communities, as well #g2great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A1 Kidwatching for me is a form of celebration. Each Ss is a treasure and I'm confounded (in a good way) by the unique way each one of them approaches the task. On occasion if it's as if we get a glimpse inside their thinking. #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A2. Use for Reading, Writing, Research, Talk, Singing, Art, & All content areas! Mix Ss up all the time. Have they worked with everyone in the class? Depends on whether short term or long term work! #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    A1 While kidwatching, I often turn to the front of my notebook where I’ve listed some guiding questions #G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Yes so often it may feel that way. The teaching and our learning is often in the observation so we get the bigger picture of the whole child in front of us. #g2great
    • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:38 PM EDT
      A1: So important to value kid-watching. Sometimes it feels like it's time not teaching, but it's time well spent! #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Amen! Slowing down so that we can see the patterns as they emerge…such an important reminder! #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A1 Slowing down...watching for engagement, behavior, patterns. When patterns emerge, we can begin to see the learners before us. #g2great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Yes! The key to effective kid watching is to look for the patterns. Then you know how to select strategies to move them along in their learning #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A1 Slowing down...watching for engagement, behavior, patterns. When patterns emerge, we can begin to see the learners before us. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    And the more we know the more we WANT to know. Once we become inspired kid watchers, it’s a habit impossible to break (in such a good way) And hello my friend ❤️ #G2Great
    • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      A 1 Learn so much! Level of engagement; Reading stamina; how Ss choose books; questions; interest in discussing; how the work in a team; likes, dislikes, relationships with others. Everything eyes and ears show us. #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    I love this that "the lesson plan is sitting before us." Why else would we plan? And what else would we plan for?#G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
      A1 One of many things I learned from Marie Clay is that he lesson plan is sitting right in front of us. Kids are “talking” to us and if we are very wise we will listen for those signs along the way. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 My “go to” depends on the instructional (or emotional) purpose of the group. But even if levels are considered (ie guided reading), the CHILD is the ultimate grouping “go to.” #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2 Formative assessment looks, sounds and feels like many forms and formats – what kids read, write, make, create, talk about, perform, and do – counts as data. Using multiple data sources for creating small groups is key! #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A2: This one's for you, @franmcveigh : ASK THE KIDS. Alot of the time they can self-assess and be spot on. Then, they're more engaged because they own the goals! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    That’s such a great visual paper trail Barry. I loved the way you started the book with photographs of kids engaged in reading. A picture really does say 1000 words! #G2Great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:40 PM EDT
      A1 Sometimes I capture kidwatching moments in my classroom with a photograph. This gives me the chance to talk to students from a visual cue and ask follow-up questions. #G2Great
  • DrGLK Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A1 Kidwatching gives me insight into how a child handles time, problem-solves, interacts, and how they react to whatever they are engaged in doing at the moment of my observation. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2 Find a “vehicle” that inspires and motivates Ss -- a topic, person, current event, story, or idea that sparks interest between and among a small group of learners. Then, launch small group work around reading all kinds of texts focused on the “vehicle”. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2 Needs decide. Is it a strategy group? Is it an identity group? That builds relationship. Is it developmental? Yet another. Language based? You guessed it. FLEXIBILITY is the thing. @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2 At the start of the year, I highly recommend creating hetrogeneous small group book clubs where the focus is entirely on talking books and choosing books. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    So important Bonnie and slowing down requires professional mindfulness. We can’t always be jumping to the next thing and be mindful so that slowing down in crucial (with big payoff) #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:41 PM EDT
      A1 Slowing down...watching for engagement, behavior, patterns. When patterns emerge, we can begin to see the learners before us. #g2great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Also, how they behave, what their engagement is, what they don't do...all potential topics for SG instruction. #g2great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A2 LOVE watching our Ss who are newcomers to our country. They are the bravest and brightest. Their ability to persevere when you know it's incredibly challenging is always inspiring. #kidheroes #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2 Flip the model. Instead of outlining the content that needs to be taught, start with Ss interests and curiosities. Use what you know about Ss to design small group learning opportunities, using Ss interests and curiosities as a conduit for meeting curricular goals. #G2Great
  • ToriBachman Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Love this point @juliewright4444 - it all counts toward knowing your kids - what they can do, what they enjoy, what they may need a nudge toward #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:44 PM EDT
      A2 Formative assessment looks, sounds and feels like many forms and formats – what kids read, write, make, create, talk about, perform, and do – counts as data. Using multiple data sources for creating small groups is key! #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: I've pushed myself to consider diff. lenses - behaviors, skills, content, etc. -& mix it up. Participants in groups could be mentors or need help themselves. Sometimes through their products, sometimes through observation, & sometimes kids creating groups themselves! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2. I worry that some Ts have limited knowledge of types of groups and then there is "flexible"... Does that mean you can't be a blackbird all year? #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    And what else would give us the rich information that the child in front of us could give us? 😊 #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:43 PM EDT
      I love this that "the lesson plan is sitting before us." Why else would we plan? And what else would we plan for?#G2Great
      • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:39 PM EDT
        A1 One of many things I learned from Marie Clay is that he lesson plan is sitting right in front of us. Kids are “talking” to us and if we are very wise we will listen for those signs along the way. #G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2 I think of "buckets." What are the buckets here? What can be filled?....Engagement? Behaviors? Readers who could be partners?#G2Great
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2: I gave up on grouping last year. Teaching JH the kids would actively try to figure out the "reason" for a group. So I let the kids group themselves by book interests leading to conversations. Intervention was individual. I am looking at reworking maybe. #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A2 It is August and I am busy applying sml grps here in Brazil at the Ameri Internatl School of Brasilia. Every day in my mid school Eng class we start with independent reading while I collect with 6 ss. Grps are simple - student #s 1-6. then 7-12. Building rountines. #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Knowing your learning targets and where your students are working in relation to those targets helps you decide who needs support to move towards or move beyond what you’re wanting them to achieve. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 When we consider interest as a “go-to” for small groups, we widen the door to be more inclusive beyond reading levels & maximize the level of engagement that is possible. #G2Great
  • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q3: When kids talk about their reading, they see reading as a social interaction and with authentic purpose #G2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 Kidwatching keeps us tuned in to Ss ever-evolving interests and literacy habits. This information helps us in shaping small group learning opportunities #G2Great
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2: Truly seeing each reader in the present. What can I give this reader in THIS moment. Then, look for patterns—what can I give this group to empower them as readers? Often, then, groups are created around skills that Ss can use to approach their learning for life. #g2great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Hi. Joining a little late - putting kiddos to bed. #g2great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 During my observing/conferring stage, I notice what kids are able 2 do & where they could go next. I might make a small group & have certain Ss be there. And then I’ll open it up to anyone else interested in learning more about that strategy/topic/skill etc. #g2great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I’m going to focus on the responses to this question. An Important question to understand why we do what we do. #G2Great ( says this sub teacher who will be sharing all that she learns with colleagues)
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A2 Choosing who is in a small group is strategic. This last week the class read “The Escape” by JBStamper. After a riveting class discussion, I invited a few ss who had not shared to meet me so i could hear their ideas. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 Ask kids. What do you want to read? Who is going to nudge you to think differently or support you as your move toward reaching your goals? Our Ss deserve thinking partners (as do teachers!) because it helps them learn with others in unique and important ways. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2: "I'm offering the following seminars. Please sign up for what you think would be the most helpful for you." #g2great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 The reason and purpose for grouping changes depending on the task- sometimes group all quiet Ss, that's interesting! #g2great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2. Last year it was sometimes based on shared goals around parts of reading progressions. Other times it was common skills/strategies based. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A2 One way of putting together a small group is by taking note of what kids are reading and then pulling ss together by genre. Talking about what makes their books work generates connections and curiosity. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Agree…and then motivation and engagement usually follow! Reading is social…you said it with such elegance! #g2great
    • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
      Q3: When kids talk about their reading, they see reading as a social interaction and with authentic purpose #G2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 There are many small group options, but choice should play a big a role in some of those options. When you include at least some semblance of choice in the small group mix, great things can happen #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Use Ss work as a key source for figuring out what they know/can do AND what they need next in their literacy journey. #G2Great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2: I like to determine groups by a combo of interest & level. Book talk some selections and be up front about what might make them challenging. Kids are pretty good at finding a good balance. #g2great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 Grouping for me is rarely, if ever, about a level. It is about what Ss might be ready/interested to learn next. #g2great
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A 2 Groups are for students so it’s important to kid watch to observe feelings and level of participation. I find it’s important to group to help students talk about books and share their feelings. Be open to listening to students’ suggestions for forming a group.#g2great
  • NancyTucc Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Thanks to Harvey &Ward's From Striving to Theiving, group for genre and inquiry #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    A2 I noticed a half dozen kids reading graphic novels so I jumped on the chance to listen to them discuss what they loved about their books. Several were surprised I had given noteriety and credibility to their beloved texts. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    This is such a great idea to build a foundation of relationships from a broader perspective Barry. The tendency is to form homogeneous groups before we even really know kids from all sides. Love this #G2Great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:45 PM EDT
      A2 At the start of the year, I highly recommend creating hetrogeneous small group book clubs where the focus is entirely on talking books and choosing books. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2 Entrance and exit tickets (and mid-workshop tickets) help us gauge Ss knowledge, skills, and understandings. A 3x5 index card works great and can be done on the spot: Side 1 – what’s a big take-away or aha? Side 2 – what do you need next as a reader/learner? #G2Great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    book choice lit groups gave quite a variety of Ss #g2great
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Yes! Agency is essential. 💖💖 #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrGLK Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2-Grouping depends on what students need. It also may be by interests, reading strategy groups, behavior conference to facilitate understanding, writing conference to support next steps in learning for a common skill. #g2great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    During independent reading my Ss started grouping themselves by interest. I probably could/should have leveraged that more #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • ReneeDHouser Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    After teaching a strategy lesson to Ss, I sometimes asked them to return to their partners or clubs and teach something they learned. S to S teaching and learning is fun & engaging and a real application opportunity! #G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    So interesting. I think grade level has a lot to do with how we look at grouping #g2great How did it work for them?
    In reply to @mrbgilson
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    A2 Ss choosing from a selection of short texts and forming small groups around these texts works magically. One of our favorite text sets was around common inventions. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    A3. Deeper understanding & more new and different ideas from Ss who talk about their reading. More rehearsal time = more confidence in responses as well! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Love that the students do this. So important for Ss to "do the work"! #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:47 PM EDT
      A2 Kidwatching keeps us tuned in to Ss ever-evolving interests and literacy habits. This information helps us in shaping small group learning opportunities #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Loved this student driven approach #G2Great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:49 PM EDT
      A2 I noticed a half dozen kids reading graphic novels so I jumped on the chance to listen to them discuss what they loved about their books. Several were surprised I had given noteriety and credibility to their beloved texts. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 Talk is the instructional glue that brings us all together as a community of learner It. should play a big role in the process in all types of grouping experiences. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 If students are holding their thinking in their Reader’s Notebooks, then giving them time to talk about their ideas and wonderings is a natural next step. You can listen in and mine student work/talk to find entry points for supporting them. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Small groups have become a bit of a cattle call (next. next) it’s impossible to have responsive and thoughtful small groups with that flawed mindset. #G2Great
    • DrGLK Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      A2-Grouping depends on what students need. It also may be by interests, reading strategy groups, behavior conference to facilitate understanding, writing conference to support next steps in learning for a common skill. #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 We often talk to surface our thnking. Talking materializes thinking. It puts ideas into the world that can be formed and reformed. And talking is efficient.#G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Divide and conquer Grouping helps with differentiation @DrMaryHoward want to lend your voice to this? —#g2Great
    In reply to @jorgovan45, @DrMaryHoward
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    Did this a few times also but not as intentional as I could have. Thanks for the reminder. #g2great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A2 I have pages in my notebook set up with potential goals on stickie notes. That way, I can take those stickie notes and put them right on a chart paper. Who needs to work on this? Sign up here. #g2great
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A2 Sometimes grouping for strategy use, other times grouping for text complexity (some need more scaffolding to come 2 deep meaning), sometimes grouping for a specific disposition (choosing books, staying with a book, learning to be a good listening partner in book club) #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A3 We want kids to talk to make sense of things. And we want kids to listen. So if we can teach into these tandem skills, I think we all stand to gain a lot. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 Formative data that shapes my teaching. @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 When Ss talk things out, they give one another a lift by making meaning together, modeling, wrestling with content, uncovering new words, taking hold of big ideas, etc. Talking about it moves ideas & understandings forward because we are smarter together. #G2Great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 Gain comprehension of vocabulary, insights into theme, characters, talk solidifies ideas and chance for teachers to clear up misconceptions #g2great
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3: More agency, ownership, confidence, and relationships among students. They learn from and with each other—and we learn with them, too! 💗 #g2great
  • TonySinanis Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Giving kids a chance to talk about their reading is really an opportunity for a kid to talk about their thinking! And book talks can be the key to igniting the “book love” flame! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    YES YES YES @ReneeDHouser @MelanieMeehan1 #G2Great
    • ReneeDHouser Aug 23 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      After teaching a strategy lesson to Ss, I sometimes asked them to return to their partners or clubs and teach something they learned. S to S teaching and learning is fun & engaging and a real application opportunity! #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 Those doing the talking are those doing the learning! That active engagement in conversation helps to ensure that learning is happening. Plus when they talk, the teacher listens - and only good things happen when the teacher sits back and listens 😄 #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A3 After talking and listening abt the story “The Escape” one of my students said, “Joao changed my thinking! I had never thought abt him surviving.” Talking and listening can elevate new perspectives.#G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3 If we want to pump up reading volume, giving kids time and space to book talk and share texts that interest them is important. Kids’ recommendations have immediate “street cred” with other kids…talking about books they love makes reading them contagious. #G2Great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    And based on what you notice they know, could be a group right there of Ss who would be more than willing to learn craft/techniques etc about a genre they already love. #g2great
    In reply to @BarryHoonan
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: Oh the excitement that comes from kids talking about shared texts or work. I just love it. The different perspectives around the same thing is really eye opening and generates further talk. #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3 Talk brings student learning and understanding to a higher level. When we talk about our reading, we clarify thinking. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    I suspect that your grouping experiences haven’t been positive but we are talking about groups that are constantly changing, based on interest and are joyful in nature. It’s not the ability grouping of the past but a way to helps kids explore who they are as readers. #G2Great
    In reply to @jorgovan45, @hayhurst3
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: Verbal rehearsal is so important as it's easier to revise what you've said than what you've written. I talk through what I'm going to write ALL the time. #g2great
  • ReneeDHouser Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    When Ss talk they become engaged and as a bi-product we the teacher, can listen for thinking patterns and use that thinking to figure out what to teach them next. #G2Great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3: what do we gain? Everything! Processing in low stakes settings, hearing new ideas, language development...and on and on and on #G2Great
  • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3 Not all talk is the same. Student led, authentic talk lets students develop and share their own thinking and lets teachers know what and how they really think. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A3 A student commented last Friday about our Eng class. He said he use to get in trouble for talking but not this year. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 Whoever is talking is probably doing the most thinking. Boost engagement, comprehension, and brand reading as an important part of the day by putting student talk at the center. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 Student talk is a powerful comprehension informant. Analyzing the quality of shared dialogue can teach us so much about the thinking and learning process over time. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Talking to think…so true! Their talk is often more important than our talk! #g2great
    • TonySinanis Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
      Giving kids a chance to talk about their reading is really an opportunity for a kid to talk about their thinking! And book talks can be the key to igniting the “book love” flame! #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A2 Love to meet with kids based on common inquiry topics. We talk about what they discovered, where and how they've researched, what they still want to know and their plans for discovery. Also chatting about naive (mis)conceptions and what influenced their thinking. #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A3 true insight into student thinking plus a better chance of ideas growing from others in the group #G2Great
    • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:51 PM EDT
      A3. Deeper understanding & more new and different ideas from Ss who talk about their reading. More rehearsal time = more confidence in responses as well! #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 Purposeful talk solves problems, illuminates new ideas and insights, and shows kids ways to create long-term reading habits. #G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 That talking time is under utilized at times. The kids talking. We listen and learn what’s going on with their learning. Their reflections #g2great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Grouping can shape identity #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @jorgovan45
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3: I like putting quiet kids with quiet kids and chattier ones with chattier ones. That way the quiet kids can't hibernate and the talkers have to learn to listen. #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 Simply put, a good conversation is both engaging, exciting and illuminating. Isn’t that what we want in our classrooms?#G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    This is so important Julie. That also means that we take the time to teach kids how to have meaningful conversations that build off of the idea of self and others #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:55 PM EDT
      A3 Whoever is talking is probably doing the most thinking. Boost engagement, comprehension, and brand reading as an important part of the day by putting student talk at the center. #G2Great
  • drgravityg Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Q3 talking allows students to hear their ideas and reflect on them and on other readers’ ideas #G2Great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A3 We gain engaged Ss. More conversation that enhances learning. Enjoyment. Natural conditions that exist outside of school. Readers talking about books in informal settings. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 Sometimes Ss write and talk to think. Sometimes they write and talk to process. And, sometimes they listen to others talk in order to better understand. Small groups give Ss a safe space to do all of that. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A3 When we close our mouths we offer time & space for kids to open theirs. We can learn much when their voices to lift into the learning air and if we are wise, so make this a high priority goal.#G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    Please give your students an audience for their thinking in their notebooks! That’s what it’s all about #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      A3 If students are holding their thinking in their Reader’s Notebooks, then giving them time to talk about their ideas and wonderings is a natural next step. You can listen in and mine student work/talk to find entry points for supporting them. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I’m not sure which one warms my heart most Tony. This comment or the fact that you’ve joined us on #G2Great ❤️
    • TonySinanis Aug 23 @ 8:53 PM EDT
      Giving kids a chance to talk about their reading is really an opportunity for a kid to talk about their thinking! And book talks can be the key to igniting the “book love” flame! #G2Great
  • drmollyness Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    An important read for everyone invested in public education #ilachat #nctechat #masterychat #g2great #kidsdeserveit #preservicelit https://t.co/rNPZ04upRp
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3 In our book, What Are You Grouping For? we offer up some troubleshooting moves to put student talk on the front burner. Here’s one suggestion. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    And reinforces the listening skill. I could name a few people who could work on that skill. Just saying. #g2great
    In reply to @drgravityg
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A running joke with colleagues was waiting for me to get to the “point” but the journey to it was also part of the “point.” #g2great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    There are many ways to group kids beyond guided reading level #G2great
    • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 8:52 PM EDT
      A2 Sometimes grouping for strategy use, other times grouping for text complexity (some need more scaffolding to come 2 deep meaning), sometimes grouping for a specific disposition (choosing books, staying with a book, learning to be a good listening partner in book club) #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    EnJOYment! Doesn’t get much better than that! #G2Great
    • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 8:56 PM EDT
      A3 We gain engaged Ss. More conversation that enhances learning. Enjoyment. Natural conditions that exist outside of school. Readers talking about books in informal settings. #g2great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    This is one of the hardest things to do! But if we truly want students to develop their OWN voices and their OWN ideas, shut up we must! #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:57 PM EDT
      A3 When we close our mouths we offer time & space for kids to open theirs. We can learn much when their voices to lift into the learning air and if we are wise, so make this a high priority goal.#G2Great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    It can build relationships and engagement. Kids want to talk to each other about the good books they’re reading. They’ll hold each other accountable and keep coming back for more! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A4. Use of Protocols and Routines makes it easier as well as more valid to compare data (Pre/post in Sept to Pre/post in May). Consistency across Ts and Content areas makes learning targets more similar for Ss as well. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    We are very mindful of keeping kids at the center of all we do on #G2Great
    In reply to @jorgovan45, @hayhurst3
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A4 I truly believe that on-going small groups can only happen in a self-managing classroom. My ‘go to’ is creating independent or “I” charts ala The Daily Five. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I love students as timekeepers. Feels like a bit of power/control for some! #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A 3 Our Ss become active listeners, develop empathy, learn to value ideas of others, hear about books peers love, become curious and ask questions. Reading is social and talking in small groups is safe. Expressing ideas to others requires deep thinking. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 Creating shared agreements is our way of getting clear about the ways in which we will work together – mutual understandings between/among Ss & teachers. When everyone is clear about our ways of being/working, we have a greater chance of reaching success together. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 Routines or procedures can begin with an inquiry - What does it look like to start a small group independently? What materials do we need to start a small group quickly?#G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4 As a Reading Recovery teacher, we spent 2 two weeks “roaming in the known.” This intensive observation and reflection phase has long been a big part of my small group structure. #G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A3 Talking gives the opportunity to clarify thinking and rework their thinking. #G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    A4: Helps to teach students their roles and responsibilities during specific times of the workshop. Helps to think about a T-chart. #g2great
  • ReneeDHouser Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    The beginning of the year is a great time to host discussions about agreements for productive classrooms so that all voices in the community pitch in. Every year will be different, what a relief and very exciting! #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A4 in chapter two we show a great example of a student created protocol chart around the question - What makes a small grp work well? Kids energy and buy-in changes when they compose the agreements.#G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    It is pure JOY watching Barry and his students creating these charts together. And…amazing watching the students put them to use through daily routines of reading workshop. #g2great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 8:59 PM EDT
      A4 I truly believe that on-going small groups can only happen in a self-managing classroom. My ‘go to’ is creating independent or “I” charts ala The Daily Five. #G2Great
  • vrkimmel Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    A3 "Language is how we think. It's how we process information and remember. It's our operating system." @DFISHERSDSU @NancyFrey Carol Rothenburg #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4 We don’t go into the work with the list of criteria or shared agreements already created. Instead, gather kids and let them noodle around about what will make the work move forward, what’s our end goal, and how will we know we’ve reached success. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4 Goal setting and building good habits. This is how we move kids. @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Love this, @BarryNoonan! Will share with teachers tomorrow! #g2great
    In reply to @BarryHoonan, @franmcveigh, @BarryNoonan
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4: set expectations, attempt, reflect, attempt, reflect, attempt, reflect, etc. . . . Conversations around "what's working? what's not? what is our goal? what will better help us to meet our goal?" #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4 We establish routines and agreements throughout the yr. If something is interrupting our learning wrkshp time, we attend to it. Often ss start the year with simple behavior goals based on the class agreements.#G2Great
  • MelanieMeehan1 Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A4. What are the jobs and responsibilities. #g2great
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    A3: As you begin a new year, discuss with Ss: What are our principles? What are our nonnegotiables? What are our hopes and dreams for this year? What do we expect from ourselves? What do we expect from each other? You don’t mandate these things; you build them together.💖#g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    A4 If we are going to widen our view of flexible grouping we also have to widen our view of flexible structures. This means that our criteria is closely connected to the needs of kids. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4 Try this: Meet with a small group during reading workshop to jump start their thinking about how they will approach their reading work together. Ask: How many times this week will you meet? How long will you meet? How often do you want the teacher to join your group? #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    A4 While I love charts, I also believe a photo can show ss what the ‘end goal’ looks like. Take a pic of a successful sm grp and then build the routine or protocol chart. Call it ‘a pic of success’.#G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Any buy in from students depends on their involvement. It’s not done to them, it done with them. Such a good point. #g2great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    There’s so much goodness revolving around this small group discussion. We can do better than one size fits all groups that simply relegate kids to level readers. Julie and Barry help us to envision a wide range of flexible options. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Laying this foundation for small groups that follow will maximize our impact and allow us to gradually relinquish more and more responsibility to them. This ownership is critical. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4 Here is a quick list of assessment guidelines that might support your efforts in creating shared agreements. More information can be found in chapter 6 of What Are You Grouping For? #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    And then conversations and reflection... "How did we do?" #G2Great
    In reply to @MelanieMeehan1
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    A4: As you begin a new year, discuss with Ss: What are our principles? What are our nonnegotiables? What are our hopes and dreams for this year? What do we expect from ourselves? What do we expect from each other? You don’t mandate these things; you build them together.💖#g2great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    I love having students annotate pictures like that! The visual reminder is great. #g2great
    In reply to @BarryHoonan
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Protocols:How do we transition from inde reading to a sm grp? How do we give everyone a chance to share in a small grp? How do we transition from small grp and reading to sharing time? #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    I love the student ownership in that Julie! #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      A4 Try this: Meet with a small group during reading workshop to jump start their thinking about how they will approach their reading work together. Ask: How many times this week will you meet? How long will you meet? How often do you want the teacher to join your group? #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A5. Begin with "Is this the topic that we are digging into?" Need ranges from Easy to grade level. Wide range to start with. Then 2nd lens: Interesting? Quality? Learn something? Interesting Framework? #G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    It is so important to create a community of learners, and to give students voice. #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
      A4 We don’t go into the work with the list of criteria or shared agreements already created. Instead, gather kids and let them noodle around about what will make the work move forward, what’s our end goal, and how will we know we’ve reached success. #G2Great
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Love ❤️ every thought! #g2great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    I'm glad I'm still not a Squirrel like I was in first grade. That was my group and I never left it. I remember it 30 years later. #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 If we want kids to read voluminously, we have to curate texts and text sets with their interests and curiosities at the forefront of our planning. In addition, kids need to curate collections for themselves and others. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 Building community is the thing that helps students know themselves and each other as literate people. With identity comes higher functioning. @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 Interest is one key to this curation process so we INVITE kids to follow the passion trail across varied small group settings. As interest increases so does our impact potential! #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    A5 There are 3 parts to curation: t, s, t/s. After teaching for 30 years, I am learning to hand over this responsibility. Too often I do all the hard work up front forgetting to involve my ss.#G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A5 Being able to curate for others means that you habitually listen to and learn from others; you know the kind of reading material that others might find interesting, so you are on the lookout for it. Modeling what that looks, sounds and feels like for our Ss is key! #G2Great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A5 This is tough, still have kiddos that don't like anything or any book #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Yes Ashley and I’m afraid that thirty years later the squirrels are still alive and well in far too many classrooms. We have to do better and stop relegating kids to groups from which they have no escape. #G2Great
    • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      I'm glad I'm still not a Squirrel like I was in first grade. That was my group and I never left it. I remember it 30 years later. #g2great
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A5 Get ss involved from the start. I launched a bio unit by inviting ss to find and bring in biographies they would like to read. Sure got them thinking. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    I was a seahorse…somehow a line up of ocean creatures was supposed to make it better and more exciting. #G2Great
    • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      I'm glad I'm still not a Squirrel like I was in first grade. That was my group and I never left it. I remember it 30 years later. #g2great
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A4. Often we'll talk about/agree on what reading looks like, sounds like, etc. But never really do so in SG... probably should #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5 Curating for ourselves and others is like the food delivery companies that provide you with all of the ingredients to make a meal or the clothing companies that send you a complete outfit + accessories in one box. Invite Ss to curate texts just the same. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5 One option is to ultimately allow kids to select texts for peer collaboration and actually advertise for others interested in that text (with the text on display). #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    and put the curation and thus thinking process in their hands. Ultimately that’s always our end goal! #G2Great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A5 Get ss involved from the start. I launched a bio unit by inviting ss to find and bring in biographies they would like to read. Sure got them thinking. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A5 Be nimble and watchful. in chapter 7, we write about ss starting a poetry small grp after spying a poem about fish farts. Curating evokes curiosity. #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    And help kids to see that a group does not equal something bad! Everyone deserves to grow, so everyone deserves the support. Kids still have misguided understandings about what the purpose of small groups are. #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • cvarsalona Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 Julie, I have encouraged teachers to kidwatch because it allows for an instantaneous assessment of what needs to be done. Kidwatching leads to Teachable Moments! #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A5 Think outside of the typical choices when curating texts & mentor texts with and for students. Discuss different types of texts to curate. Give extra time and space for Ss to explore, curate, share, discuss, celebrate…and READ texts that are of interest. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A5 Involve ss in ‘curating’ your class library. Last year ss created a section called ‘great books with ugly covers’ and another called ‘for the serious spy reader’.#G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    That's way more fun than a squirrel! I remember bluebirds too I think . . . #g2great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A5: Build a community of readers. Book talk, read aloud, model, speed date books—but also speed date suggesting books to one another. Confer with Ss to truly know them. Provide agency at every opportunity. #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 Early small group experiences is time to set the success stage w/modeling & teaching, but our ultimate goal is to put kids in the driver’s seat. We must know when to step back and let kids lead the way. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 Ask Ss to create a “You’ve got to read this!” shelf or bucket to place recommended titles. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    In fact if we DON’T use kid watching as a central part of all we do, then we miss those potential opportunities to embrace the teachable moments that are all around us. Great message Carol (and hello my friend) #G2Great
    • cvarsalona Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
      A1 Julie, I have encouraged teachers to kidwatch because it allows for an instantaneous assessment of what needs to be done. Kidwatching leads to Teachable Moments! #G2Great
      In reply to @juliewright4444
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Sometimes it’s that one book, with a title that grabs kiddos, that creates a bend in the literacy narrative! Barry and I have had fun studying kids and noodling around with how best to support them! #g2great
    • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
      A5 Be nimble and watchful. in chapter 7, we write about ss starting a poetry small grp after spying a poem about fish farts. Curating evokes curiosity. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 Curation can be as easy as asking ss to rec a bk for the library or giving space on a special shelf for readers to display covers of hot reads. #G2Great
  • cvarsalona Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 You said it all, Fran. https://t.co/QtrIxPnKFW ( I just got here to #G2Great )
    In reply to @franmcveigh
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A5 And first comes knowing them beyond the “learner” That’s where the kidwatch is a powerful mechanism and conduit to “curation” #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A5 Being able to curate for others means that you habitually listen to and learn from others; you know the kind of reading material that others might find interesting, so you are on the lookout for it. Modeling what that looks, sounds and feels like for our Ss is key! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    And this requires Ts to open minds as well as to be READERS! #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5 Create a “This is what I’ve been reading” share time during am/pm routine or the first 5 minutes of the class period in middle school. Or, time/space for Ss to advocate for themselves with a “I’m in need a something new to read so someone give me a recommendation” #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A5 we crowdsource book recs. We have students across district from three schools submit book recommendations into a google form and then students and teachers utilize the spreadsheet created to set up reading wish lists #g2great
  • cvarsalona Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Great Quick List, Julie. A4 #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • DrGLK Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A3 When we let students talk we see -how they process information, -if they understood what was read or discussed, and -we give them an opportunity to actually learn more by generating ideas to contribute. #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    This gets back to slowing down, observing, and learning from the students before us. #G2Great @DrMaryHoward
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A5 Being able to curate for others means that you habitually listen to and learn from others; you know the kind of reading material that others might find interesting, so you are on the lookout for it. Modeling what that looks, sounds and feels like for our Ss is key! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A6. Have that S that comes early or stays late help curate. Which S will really want to read this? Brilliant idea from @MisterMinor Beyond that, MUST know the Ss! #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    YES So much better than a "bell ringer" that has to be graded and is totally out of context! #G2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A6 In chap 7,we tlk abt Cameron stumbling on an article about Geckos frm Nati’l Geo Explor .He wouldn’t stop tlking about them … so we suggested he lead a sm grp on the topic. Win/win! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Congratulations Bonnie Campbell @boncampliteracy You won a copy of What Are You Grouping For. Please DM me your address and I’ll send it to Corwin. You will love this new book! #G2Great @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @CorwinPress
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 There is an art and science to curating. For adults, staying current by reading voluminously/widely, with Ss in mind, is a must! In that same spirit, giving Ss the time and space to read and then recommend texts with their peers in mind has the same positive impact. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A6 We need a wide range of text curation options but always with student interest in mind. Our text choices make or break small group experience so we put a great deal of thought into this. #G2Great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A5. Next to our class library I've added a "What are you Reading?" Graffiti wall... Hope that will spur more lists of books for all Ss. #g2great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Love this! #g2great I’ve sat and listened to our kinders talk with such entusiasm, laughter and energy about a book or series that they could read over and over again. A teacher moment of joy!
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A6 In Chapter 7, we suggest that curation begins with kidwatching because knowing our Ss curiosities, passions, habits and needs helps us know what will fuel their reading. Check out these helpful steps for curating. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    While working with inferring, we invited as to bring in thought-provoking quotes. We met in sm grps and tlk abt our inferences and interpretations. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    That’s great John. Yes advertising and using the wall as a conversation opportunity around books is so powerful #G2Great
    • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      A5. Next to our class library I've added a "What are you Reading?" Graffiti wall... Hope that will spur more lists of books for all Ss. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Thanks @CorwinPress and thanks @boncampliteracy for joining us! #g2great
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A6: I think a big piece is in talking to our students. I think any text can be used to address learning goals, by organizing our texts by student interests and other categories we help to get past the biggest hurdle of engagement. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Love that it’s a graffiti wall! #g2great
    • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      A5. Next to our class library I've added a "What are you Reading?" Graffiti wall... Hope that will spur more lists of books for all Ss. #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Thank you! I am so excited! I look forward to learning more! @CorwinPress #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward, @juliewright4444, @BarryHoonan, @franmcveigh, @hayhurst3, @brennanamy, @CorwinPress, @CorwinPress
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6 Try this: Think about a small group of Ss that you want to pull together. What would they enjoy reading? Pull texts in a basket for them to explore/read? How can these texts pump up Ss reading volume and nudge skills and strategies at the same time? #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A6 We’ve become so hyper-focused on guided reading that we’ve missed opportunities to broaden our text view. We can organize small group texts by genre, topic, authors, or even style. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Great message Brent. We do not have to have a book to fit every skill as publishers would have us believe. We can celebrate the opportunities that allow us to use those in-the-moment skills and strategies and there are MANY texts that can do that #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 Research skills can be lifted when we pull infographics.The visuals, the talking, and the small grp setting personalizes learning. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    True, either Guided Reading or Skill. Both are tooooooooo narrow! @DrMaryHoward #G2Great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      A6 We’ve become so hyper-focused on guided reading that we’ve missed opportunities to broaden our text view. We can organize small group texts by genre, topic, authors, or even style. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Such an inspiring conversation around flexible responsive and responsible small groups. We are so grateful for sharing your wisdom #G2great friends and to Barry and Julie for leading this conversation! #G2great
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    frantically writing down these curating ideas #g2great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 We gotta know our kids! This is where kidwatching comes into play. What do they talk about with their peers? What are they drawn to read and write about? What did they do over the weekend? What gets them really engaged? All can help us curate. (cont'd) #g2great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A6 but we also have to use each other. It is so hard for all teachers to know all books, but what a great use of collab time - "I have a student who loves ___, anyone know some books that might be great?" Twitter is an amazing resource there as well. #g2great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A6 Curating in ten minutes or less. Take a look at this example and imagine using this process for a small group of your students. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I’ll post a wakelet artifact shortly after the chat Vanessa. #G2Great
  • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A 6 by tapping into their curiosities, passions, you can organize reading groups! Enlist librarian to order books around Ss interests & pull books for classes so students see how valued their ideas are. #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A6 In chap 2, a small grp of researchers went wild sharing inforgraphics about Barbie and wrestled with role models for girls.#G2Great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    First time for this type of thing. Hope it works well. It will also be the backdrop of minilessons. #g2great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 Author studies support text curation + interest. Small group can revolve around specific authors using varied texts. This allows for differentiation & initiates rich conversations. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 Curate, curate, curate! You & Ss find texts you love. Use them for minilessons/shared reading. Find texts for small group & independent reading. What’s essential=finding the texts w/Ss interests & curiosities at forefront, then determine instructional implications. #G2Great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6In chap 2, a small grp of researchers went wild sharing info about Barbie and wrestled with role models for girls.#G2Great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 By culling through what we need for instructional goals, and considering the students before us, we further refine and curate for our students. #G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    And levels be damned (oh can I tweet that) #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      A6 We’ve become so hyper-focused on guided reading that we’ve missed opportunities to broaden our text view. We can organize small group texts by genre, topic, authors, or even style. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    And our readers don’t fit within those narrow confines. It makes think of Cinderall’s stepsisters ad trying to fit their feet in the shoes to no avail! #G2Great
    • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      True, either Guided Reading or Skill. Both are tooooooooo narrow! @DrMaryHoward #G2Great
      • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
        A6 We’ve become so hyper-focused on guided reading that we’ve missed opportunities to broaden our text view. We can organize small group texts by genre, topic, authors, or even style. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Good girl… I’m so proud! 😊 #G2Great
    • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      And levels be damned (oh can I tweet that) #g2great
      • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
        A6 We’ve become so hyper-focused on guided reading that we’ve missed opportunities to broaden our text view. We can organize small group texts by genre, topic, authors, or even style. #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A6 as a coach, I try to read and share as much as I can. do as many book talks as I can, ask kids A LOT what books they are loving - but I need a system to remember them all! #g2great
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A7. Extend partnerships so partners stay together but 2nd set of partners will shift so not everyone in the group is new every time the group changes! Trios with 1 EL or 1 high absentee S so have a partner! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    And thus keep them at the center of all we do… as we should! #G2Great
    • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      A6 By culling through what we need for instructional goals, and considering the students before us, we further refine and curate for our students. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A7 In chap 2, the launch, we suggest stability begins with predictability and familiarity. Begin with partner talks and short sm grps around ss interests. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 Study Ss so that you know what makes them tick & what they need to grow. This gives us the know-how to group them in unique ways. It’s no longer about the Monday small group. Instead, we pivot, or switch things up, intuitively and instinctively to meet Ss needs. #G2Great
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 Stability is built on habits. When Ss know what to expect there is more intellectual space for critical thinking. Has to be time built in for Ss sharing perspective that vests them in the process. @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan! @franmcveigh @DrMaryHoward @brennanamy #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 Create a thread across groups so you can weave across grouping experiences. This flexibility accommodates both repeated reading opportunities as well as variety. #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A7 the more students understand their roles during ind rdg and sm grps, the more stability there will be. Also, I know growth mindset is a buzzword to a lot of people, but students and teachers need to see groups as a way for ALL to grow, not SOME #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    This is so simple, and doable. #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      A6 Curating in ten minutes or less. Take a look at this example and imagine using this process for a small group of your students. #G2Great
  • jdsniadecki Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Sorry friends! Home late from Parent night. So tired! I love my new school! #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    There’s a big difference between viewing teaching as something we do TO kids vs experiences we create FOR kids. Great post Jenn #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A7Sm grps are not difficult if ss are reading independently and r familiar with transitions. We r switching up grps, not routines.#G2Great
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Great thread. We are not super human and important not to strive for it. Others out there, use them. Ask questions. It’s how we get here.#g2great
    • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      A6 but we also have to use each other. It is so hard for all teachers to know all books, but what a great use of collab time - "I have a student who loves ___, anyone know some books that might be great?" Twitter is an amazing resource there as well. #g2great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A7: keep procedures for group time stable even when group members change. This way they already know the basics for how to be a member of their new group #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7 If kids know that they are the Wed. small group, what day do they need to “perform”? Always meeting with Ss on the same day/in response to reading level= missed opportunities. Switching groups up regularly keeps everyone, including teachers, interested in the work! #G2Great
  • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A6. Being not as knowledgeable about titles, reaching out to reading teachers, coaches and librarian is helpful. #G2Great
  • LitROCK_taylor Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7 build predictable routines and processes. Also, have students think about their goals and how those are connected to their small group work #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Yes to ordering texts based on Ss interests and curiosities! #g2great
    • LRobbTeacher Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      A 6 by tapping into their curiosities, passions, you can organize reading groups! Enlist librarian to order books around Ss interests & pull books for classes so students see how valued their ideas are. #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A7 Planning matters. Assessment matters. In both of these chapts in the bk we show how we shape sm grps around outcomes. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Don’t we al Abigail? We have to see the reading process through THEIR eyes and really think about how we approach reading in our own lives as well! Interest certainly drives my reading so why wouldn’t it for kids! #G2Great
    • Mrsablund Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
      And interest - my students love buying into what they are doing #choice
      In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 We can’t be afraid to incorporate more spontaneity into our grouping or grouping on the spot. Powerful small groups are not preplanned but rise from on-the-spot noticings. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 In Ch 5 we discuss curriculum, social-emotional & individual reader reasons for switching up small groups. The Ts role can be recorder, reflector, modeler, advocate & mentor. Being present, but not always in charge, gives Ts intel needed to host/co-host small groups. #G2Great
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7: Earlier we talked about protocols. If we keep the structure of our group time consistent that "no surprise" approach should be flexible to any group, passion, interest or academic need. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Building a think tank around resources to fuel students! #g2great
    • hartel30 Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      A6. Being not as knowledgeable about titles, reaching out to reading teachers, coaches and librarian is helpful. #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I had a teacher last year who did this, then went to the town library and got multiple books for each student around their interest in informational text. #g2Great
    In reply to @juliewright4444
  • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7 Have a variety of non fiction articles, let Ss choose the group they or article of interest #g2great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A7In chap 3, we talk about the importance of responsive and predictable scheduling to make intentional sm grps. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A7 Be creative in how you group Ss. As Ss how they want to be grouped. Some ideas: Inquiry groups, reading buddies, multi-age partnerships. Some will be sprint groups (short) while others may be marathon groups (longer) depending on timing, purpose, or Ss needs. #G2Great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A7 Groups are flexible & only last 4 short period of time. They are intentionally designed that way. The stability is from the few meeting times needed 2 accomplish goal & the not getting bogged down is because they are designed for between 2 & 5 meetings. No more. #g2great
  • boncampliteracy Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Keeping partnerships together allows for the "pivoting" that @juliewright4444 talks about. #G2Great
    • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
      A7. Extend partnerships so partners stay together but 2nd set of partners will shift so not everyone in the group is new every time the group changes! Trios with 1 EL or 1 high absentee S so have a partner! #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I counted 31 different kinds of grouping options in your book. Is that right Julie? #G2Great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A7 Be creative in how you group Ss. As Ss how they want to be grouped. Some ideas: Inquiry groups, reading buddies, multi-age partnerships. Some will be sprint groups (short) while others may be marathon groups (longer) depending on timing, purpose, or Ss needs. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Love nonfiction, love short texts, and love this! #G2Great
    • VanessaW2007 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
      A7 Have a variety of non fiction articles, let Ss choose the group they or article of interest #g2great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A7 Including not only flexible small groups but flexibility in how those groups are formed. Once we lay the frameworks, students can generate choice-based small groups based on shared interests. #G2Great
  • BarryHoonan Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A7 Structured opportunities can give way to more and more flexible sm grps. Start slowly, purposefully, with ss talking a lot. #G2Great
  • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Thank you #g2great for this chat. I will be looking to add the book featured in this chat to my to read pile. Have a great evening everybody!
  • Mrs_Gilchrist Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A7: You build stability by building a community. Ss know they can trust you and each other. So, small groups can change—but the supportive cultures of the groups does not. #g2great
  • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    ...but we have to be flexible to the needs of our students. If they’re showing us that they need to change up a role, we need to be ready to let them #G2Great
    • MeganKortlandt Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
      A7: keep procedures for group time stable even when group members change. This way they already know the basics for how to be a member of their new group #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Thank you so much for joining us Elisa! #G2Great
    • ElisaW5 Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      Thank you #g2great for this chat. I will be looking to add the book featured in this chat to my to read pile. Have a great evening everybody!
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Yowza! 31 #G2Great
    In reply to @DrMaryHoward
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A7 Ss build more agency when they have opportunities to be in charge. Ask Ss what they can GIVE (assets) and what they want to GET (areas to grow). Create small groups based on Ss feedback. If Ss can name it, they are more likely to get what they need. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I just borrowed the words I knew you were thinking 😘 #G2Great
    In reply to @mrbgilson
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I think so! The best part is that there are far more than that…gather Ss and ask them and the number becomes endless! #g2great
    • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      I counted 31 different kinds of grouping options in your book. Is that right Julie? #G2Great
      • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
        A7 Be creative in how you group Ss. As Ss how they want to be grouped. Some ideas: Inquiry groups, reading buddies, multi-age partnerships. Some will be sprint groups (short) while others may be marathon groups (longer) depending on timing, purpose, or Ss needs. #G2Great
  • AshleyLS_16 Aug 23 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    "Being Present But Not Always in Charge" is SO hard. Do you expect them to stop & give their attention to you? Do you immediately throw a Q out there w/out listening? Teach them it is abt their learning w/each other, not abt talking to you. #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
      A7 In Ch 5 we discuss curriculum, social-emotional & individual reader reasons for switching up small groups. The Ts role can be recorder, reflector, modeler, advocate & mentor. Being present, but not always in charge, gives Ts intel needed to host/co-host small groups. #G2Great
  • DrMaryHoward - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    #G2great is thrilled to welcome Timothy Rasinski & Melissa Cheesman Smith next week to discuss their new book, The Megabook of Fluency. Please join us friends! @TimRasinski1 @MCheesmanSmith @ScholasticEd @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy ALERT: https://t.co/hQ4tKbLHvZ
  • mrbgilson Aug 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    LOved #g2great tonight. My cup is full now to go and figure out if I can make this video... Thanks @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @brennanamy @hayhurst3 You have created a beautiful learning space here.
  • dubioseducator Aug 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I think for many this is the crux of the matter and the most challenging. Regrouping. Even with stability in routine moving kids around is a challenge. Doable with a different mindset. If flexibility and movement is ipunderstood from the onset.. #g2great
    • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A7 Be creative in how you group Ss. As Ss how they want to be grouped. Some ideas: Inquiry groups, reading buddies, multi-age partnerships. Some will be sprint groups (short) while others may be marathon groups (longer) depending on timing, purpose, or Ss needs. #G2Great
  • juliewright4444 Aug 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Thank you to #g2great and @CorwinPress for helping us champion our new book and to everyone who joined in - can’t wait to go back through and read all of the important ideas that have been shared! @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @BarryHoonan
  • franmcveigh Aug 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    So excited that Julie and Barry were here to Co-Host #G2Great tonight. Thanks to all of you for your conversations! @juliewright4444 @BarryHoonan @DrMaryHoward @franmcveigh @hayhurst3 @brennanamy @CorwinPress
  • hayhurst3 - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Teaching has an ebb and flow with lrqtninng where we both take turns as learners and. Teachers #g2great