#NGSSchat Archive

A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.

Thursday February 21, 2019
9:00 PM EST

  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Hi Everyone! Glad to join tonight to learn more about assessment from all of you! Mary, from Michigan. Worked all day with our science and ELA consultants - - in the same room - - trying to figure out integration! #ngsschat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Happy Friday’s eve everyone! I’m Jenny from Vista, CA. @cascience Primary Director, @VistaNGSS @EarlyImplement Core leadership teacher, and #STEM specialist from @CasitaMagnet. Excited to join the #NGSSchat to talk assessments. 😀
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
    I’m Jill from CA, President of @CAScience and a Regional Director with @K12Alliance still coming off the high of having our @EarlyImplement @CSULBsharklab 8th grade unit awarded the #NGSS Design Badge! #NGSSChat #CANGSS #jawsome https://t.co/8vnnNK0ws8
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Welcome to #NGSSchat We are so excited you are joining tonight’s chat on tools for selecting better science assessments with @abadri09 from @Achieve @OfficialNGSS
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Hi Mary! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @starrscience
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Please start by introducing yourselves with your name, what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hi Jenny! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @ChienforSTEM, @cascience, @VistaNGSS, @EarlyImplement, @CasitaMagnet
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome Mary! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @starrscience
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Aneesha from @Achieve, super excited to be learning and sharing with all of you tonight! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome Jenny! #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Good evening, all! Tyler from Kansas City. I'm a K-12 Coordinator, and happy to learn with you all. #NGSSChat
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Kathy from NorCal, retired elementary science specialist. Looking forward to hearing from Aneesha tonight. #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Remember to add the hashtag #NGSSChat when you respond, so folks can follow along and catch up when they join late!
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi Jill! #NGSSchat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
  • MsVickScience Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Excited for #NGSSchat tonight! Nicole from IL joining in from DC.
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi! Lori from SNOWY Las Vegas here! We have our first SNOW DAY in 10 years tomorrow! (I'm from the desert, so I'm allowed to be excited for a snowday!) I help with secondary science in Clark County & also am on the #SciencePRP and @nevadascience Membership Coordinator #ngsschat
  • OfficialNGSS Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Tune in, follow along, and join the conversation with @abadri09 using #NGSSchat now!
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi everyone, Kristin from Illinois here. Can't wait to get my 3D assessment chat on tonight. #NGSSchat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi all! Holly Hereau from MI #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome Tyler-- thanks for joining #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tylercbritt
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Great to see you Kathy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • ElkinsSciKy Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Sean Elkins, retired, Kentucky. I’m only here because Aneesha is hosting 😀 #NGSSchat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    David here from Kentucky. Glad to be in the #NGSSchat mix again.
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hi Holly! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @hhereau
  • ksscienceguy Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Matt Krehbiel, Science Director at Achieve. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi Nicole! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MsVickScience
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Looking forward to the conversation! #ngsschat
  • GinaTeso Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Former special education STEM teacher @NYCSchools now at the @UWCollegeOfEd getting a Ph.D in learning sciences. #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi All, TJ from Boston University - so pumped to talk #NGSS assessments with @abadri09!!! Follow her FOR SURE!! #NGSSchat @BUWheelock @AchieveInc
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi! This is TJ from @mieducation assessment office. Can't wait to hear more about my favorite topic...science assessments #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Wow Lori-- that is so cool! Welcome to #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MsLorisStory, @nevadascience
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi there all you folks out in #ngsschat land. Ted Willard here. NSTA's Standards Geek Educational Cartographer 3D Songster Coming to you from the Willard Homestead in beautiful downtown Derwood Maryland
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Kristin! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Ryan, HS science teacher from Southern Delaware (the Beach)#ngsschat
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hello, it's Andrea Brook from MI. I'm an elementary STEM Instructional Coach, former Bio teacher and Bio modeling instructor. #ngsschat
  • teachearthspace Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Angie, HS Earth Space science teacher from Nebraska! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Sean :) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hey #NGSSchat It's Kerri at CU Boulder. Can we make #onlyherecuzAneeshaishosting a thing?
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome David-- great to see you! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tkSciGuy
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    I always forget that! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hello #ngsschat from 🌞 Feb break in Florida! I'm a NYC HS bio & @sunyesf enviro sci teacher, making time on vacay for the best NGSS PD!
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Matt! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ksscienceguy
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Kevin from Wisconsin DPI - Looking forward to hearing more about this work from @abadri09 #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Nebraska in the house!! Hi Betsy! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @bbarent, @abadri09
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Sara! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @NDE_Science
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome Gina! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @GinaTeso, @NYCSchools, @UWCollegeOfEd
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome TJ! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience, @abadri09, @BUWheelock, @AchieveInc
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I think it should be #AneeshaFan #ngsschat
    In reply to @KerriWingert
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hey Kerri!!! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @abadri09
  • jbramsey5 Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    James Ramsey @jbramsey5 Biology Teacher at Scott County High School #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi TJ! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjheckyeah, @mieducation
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Ted! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • DanUmstead Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Dan Umstead from HVRSD schools in centralNJ #NGSSchat
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi, I am Rachael from CT. A STEM Coach in Winchester Public Schools #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Andrea! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Andrea_Brook_LO
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Marisa from NJ - excited to hear what others are thinking about when it comes to NGSS assessment! #NGSS #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Angela! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @teachearthspace
  • VogelWendi Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Wendi Vogel, West Michigan, Science Consultant. Hi all! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi Kerri! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KerriWingert
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome everyone! so happy you all could join! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Welcome Diana! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl, @sunyesf
  • dylankendall12 Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Dylan Kendall, teacher, Nebraska! #NGSSChat
  • BMSscienceteach Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Evening all - Patrick from KY making a quick plea for anyone who might be willing to take on @NGSS_tweeps next week. Had a cancellation due to life and are looking for someone to step up. Any takers? There are some awesome folks out there doing NGSS. Who wants it? #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Since #ngsschat is about assessment tonight, and we are going to be asked a bunch of questions, can someone tell me what the cut off score is for an A
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Thanks for joining #NGSSchat Kevin!
    In reply to @WisDPIscience, @abadri09
  • FriendArlene Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Arlene Friend MS science teacher from Las Vegas. #NGSSchat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hiii!! Gosh it's like I just saw you yesterday... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @NDE_Science
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi all! John here, a research associate and former middle school science teacher with @MathforAmerica. Been looking at formative assessments in math and science, really excited to learn more tonight! #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi James! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jbramsey5
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 coming up in just a minute! #NGSSchat
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Katie Ramsey here from Grand Island, Nebraska! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Welcome Dan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DanUmstead
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi Rachael! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @RachaelManzer
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:07 PM EST
    I am Rich from Michigan. I'm just trying to keep up with @starrscience and @tjheckyeah #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Q1: In your experience, what makes #NGSS assessments different from other assessments you’ve seen? #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Marisa! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @marismiller6
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Welcome Wendi! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @VogelWendi
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Yes! Katie!!! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @RamseyKatie
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hi everyone, I'm Jill from the Stanford NGSS Assessment Project. I'm joining from LAX #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    So appreciative that @abadri09 is hosting #NGSSchat tonight!
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: NGSS assessments try to assess 3D learning not regurgitated teacher speak. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Welcome Dylan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @dylankendall12
  • ElkinsSciKy Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: the requirement for multidimensionality, no doubt. It’s a whole new world. #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: They assess NGSS while other assessments assess other things. But seriously, the key for NGSS assessments is assessing the three dimensions SIMULTANEOUSLY. #ngsschat #aneeshafan
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: In your experience, what makes #NGSS assessments different from other assessments you’ve seen? #NGSSChat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    In #michigan our state assessment pilots got responses from the students that the test was sort of fun because they got to figure stuff out! Figuring out is one way — moving beyond memorization/regurgitation. @tjheckyeah #ngsschat
  • teachearthspace Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: Two things. Phenomena based and it is a transfer task. Something the S haven't seen before, but can figure out. It is what I always wanted assessment to be, but never could figure out how! #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: In your experience, what makes #NGSS assessments different from other assessments you’ve seen? #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Arlene! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @FriendArlene
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 - I think it's all about the sensemaking of interesting, relevant science phenom ena! #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 NGSS assessments, when done right can offer an insight to what Ss know and are able to do in a way that traditional assessments can't #NGSSchat
  • SharlaDowding Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #NGSSchat deeper thinking, questions addressing pieces to figuring out phenomena
    In reply to @abadri09
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: 3D, equitable #NGSS assessments are actually interesting to take. Who knew swallows in western Nebraska actually got smaller bc of I-80?! #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: A major shift is what we are asking kids to do to prove their proficiency. It's not enough to just "know the facts"; we need kids to prove they can DO something with their content knowledge. We need interaction, visible thinking, connection--all at once! #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome John #NGSSchat
    In reply to @JohnRussell82, @MathforAmerica
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Poop! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: NGSS assessments are so different because they have to be so complex! Students have to be doing the SEPs and using the CCC and the DCI to explain a phenomenon or problem. It's not easy! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Welcome Katie! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @RamseyKatie
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    this is so encouraging to hear! #NGSSchat
    • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
      In #michigan our state assessment pilots got responses from the students that the test was sort of fun because they got to figure stuff out! Figuring out is one way — moving beyond memorization/regurgitation. @tjheckyeah #ngsschat
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: NGSS assessment requires students to use all three dimensions, which is totally new. This leads to a much more rigorous depth of knowledge than most assessments which assess recall. #ngsschat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
    That’s a really hard lift for every assessment. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Q1 Follow up: What is your favorite task to use to make student thinking visible? Why do you love it? #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hi Rich! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @starrscience, @tjheckyeah
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 the intense focus on ensuring all students have accesss to the ideas task is based on. The attention to equity is so important #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Assessing 3D learning is assessing thinking / doing and the ability to use ideas and CCCs to make sense of phenomena #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Q1 happening now on #NGSSchat -- Join us!
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: In your experience, what makes #NGSS assessments different from other assessments you’ve seen? #NGSSChat
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Much stronger focus on use of data, evidence, reasoning...although the scope of what I've seen is very limited. I think many of us are still looking for solid exemplars. #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    That makes me feel better. I don't think I know that much about about 3D assessments, but I am fairly confident I know more than most people :) #ngsschat
    In reply to @ElkinsSciKy
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: 3D assessments take multiple minds to craft. The importance of having a lot of input to ensure relevance, alignment, and engagement can't be overstated. #ngsschat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Quality #NGSS Assessments tell a story about how students think, what students currently know & can do, and point us as educators in productive directions to move our collective thinking forward... #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Welcome Jill! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @snapgse
  • HollyMcGoran Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Hello! Holly, instructional coach, from Michigan #NGSSchat
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: In my classroom, NGSS assessments were not something where kids memorized and studied at home. The assessments became part of the flow of the class. Some kids even thought they were fun! #NGSSchat
  • 2footgiraffe Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Anyone have an example of a NGSS assessment? #ngsschat
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
    #NGSSchat for the life of me can’t remember to #
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @abadri09
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I feel like @OfficialNGSS assessments focus on how students figure things out, instead of just what they already know #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    i love this! how do you see CCCs in assessments? #NGSSchat
    • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: Assessing 3D learning is assessing thinking / doing and the ability to use ideas and CCCs to make sense of phenomena #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: I was going to be tongue-in-cheek and say they're LONG, but totally worth it. #NGSSChat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Hello! Heather here from Oklahoma 👋🏻 PK-12 #OKSci Coordinator & Elementary #STEM #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: haven't seen too many but if @AchieveInc swallows is any indication it's about transferring knowledge to any scenario put in front of you instead of memorizing one phenomena. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:08 PM EST
      Q1: In your experience, what makes #NGSS assessments different from other assessments you’ve seen? #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Love this! #NGSSchat
    • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
      In #michigan our state assessment pilots got responses from the students that the test was sort of fun because they got to figure stuff out! Figuring out is one way — moving beyond memorization/regurgitation. @tjheckyeah #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 followup: I like to encourage students to model their thinking in order to allow assessors to see their thinking #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Nebraska representing! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @RamseyKatie
  • CDEAssessments Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Science: It’s Elementary! Submissions are coming in, and there’s still time for you! Show us how you use the formative assessment process to study science phenomena in your K through 5 classrooms. More contest information available: https://t.co/Nv0cB1rya2. #NGSSChat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 I could say the three-dimensionality, but I think my favorite part is students explaining phenomena - kids actually saying an assessment was interesting or fun #gamechanger #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Tell me more... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: NGSS assessments attempt to understand depth of student understanding rather than collected vocabulary. #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Yes it is #ngsschat
    In reply to @starrscience
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1. 3D assessments done well attend to equity and reveal sense-making. I love the potential they hold for thinking about ALL students being successful with appropriate scaffolds rather than just sorting Ss into categories--those that get it and those that don't. #ngsschat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 building off this... My students had a hard time with this Q last year - but the way the pieces are set up make it so Ts can really see where the breakdown in understanding is regarding mechanisms of evolution #NGSSchat
    • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1: 3D, equitable #NGSS assessments are actually interesting to take. Who knew swallows in western Nebraska actually got smaller bc of I-80?! #NGSSchat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    The equity piece is definitely attended to in the relevance criteria. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @tjheckyeah
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    forgot the #NGSSchat. Forgot A1. Arghh
    In reply to @abadri09
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 Definitely a focus on what Ss are DOING with information rather than a simple check for knowing concepts #ngsschat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: #NGSS assessments is about demonstrating the understanding for phenomena is a variety of forms. It takes reasoning and a collection of metacognitive shifts. It’s 3 dimensional and emphasizes the nature of science. #NGSSCHAT
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
    So parents can’t help them get ready for the “test”. How do parents feel about that? #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Q1 follow-up -- pls share a description or example :) #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1 Follow up: What is your favorite task to use to make student thinking visible? Why do you love it? #NGSSChat
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    So assessments that have one question about the SEP, one question about the DCI and one question about the CCC are not 3D? #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1. NGSS Assessment are different from other assessments because it they are not simple recall of facts. The assessments are based upon a phenomena that students are trying to figure out. The kids thing they are fun and want to know more. #NGSSCHAT
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    What Sara said x2! #ngsschat
    • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:13 PM EST
      A1. 3D assessments done well attend to equity and reveal sense-making. I love the potential they hold for thinking about ALL students being successful with appropriate scaffolds rather than just sorting Ss into categories--those that get it and those that don't. #ngsschat
  • GinaTeso Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: 3 dimensional assessment have multiple entry points and different paths to a solution! #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1, part 2: I think someone with the initials AB told me that reasoning about phenomena was important. #ngsschat
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #NGSSchat and traditional assessment doesn’t reveal what kids know and can do!
    In reply to @NDE_Science
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 - the assessment gives you an opportunity to DO science. SEPs are key. Old assessments were just DCIs with a CCC question maybe. And a skill measured here and there. Not a SEP. #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    hmmm, that sounds right... #NGSSchat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1, part 2: I think someone with the initials AB told me that reasoning about phenomena was important. #ngsschat
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    SOOO true! This work is not done in isolation. So much is gained by multiple perspectives. #NGSSchat
    • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: 3D assessments take multiple minds to craft. The importance of having a lot of input to ensure relevance, alignment, and engagement can't be overstated. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    This is powerful... love the "story" and trajectory setting #NGSSchat
    • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      A1: Quality #NGSS Assessments tell a story about how students think, what students currently know & can do, and point us as educators in productive directions to move our collective thinking forward... #NGSSchat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1 Follow up: Hands down, developing a model. Gives us (and students) such deep insight into what they really do and do not understand #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
    In reply to @abadri09
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    I think maybe my older assessments were maybe more about what I “taught” versus what kids “learned”? #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Welcome Holly! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @HollyMcGoran
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
    This was a hard one to deal with. The fact that their children did a great job on my assessments helped. #ngsschat
    In reply to @starrscience
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    when Ts use authentic questions that allow students to give evidence instead of regurgitating facts and info you can really figure out what they are capable of. It really opened the door for my sped and EL Ss. Wow an eye opener for me #NGSSchat
  • S_M_Kelly Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #ngsschat A1: Significant shift towards assessing students' ability to do science
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q1 Follow up: Models! Ss show their thinking in a more natural, less intimidating way than a blank sheet of lined paper #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Welcome Heather! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tchingelements
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 follow up: My favorite is seeing elementary students trying to develop models of how they hear sounds when a string is tied to a hanger and the string is places close to their ear. Really great stuff comes from the minds of 1st graders! #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1 Follow up: What is your favorite task to use to make student thinking visible? Why do you love it? #NGSSChat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 follow up - I like getting students modeling within as part of sharing their thinking (though for me the students are usually teachers...) #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    you can find the tools here! #NGSSchat https://t.co/x5huuWMqDD
  • CDEAssessments Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    #NGSSchat
    • CDEAssessments Feb 21 @ 9:12 PM EST
      Science: It’s Elementary! Submissions are coming in, and there’s still time for you! Show us how you use the formative assessment process to study science phenomena in your K through 5 classrooms. More contest information available: https://t.co/Nv0cB1rya2. #NGSSChat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Right...crazy! Very hard to write good assessments with all three Dimensions entwined but we keep trying. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @kmgill135, @Ted_NSTA
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    I would say that they aren't. I wouldn't say that EVERY task in an assessment should combine all three dimensions, but that most should require at least 2 and some should require all 3. That's my opinion. What's yours? #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • dylankendall12 Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 - Real world learning. Ss have to have to use reasoning to explain or produce. Not much time for worksheets or packets. Learn by doing and experiencing ... Phenomena! #NGSSchat
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    100% - yep. Good call. #ngsschat
    In reply to @marismiller6
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
    😊 #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2: I'm hoping to do some task prescreening with my PLC eventually. #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Also, can Ss transfer the big ideas to phenomena not discussed in class #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Are you "snapping" in response to her statement? #ngsschat
    In reply to @snapgse
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:17 PM EST
    I tried to give the parents other ways to participate. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Andrea_Brook_LO, @starrscience
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Tools like the Task Screener and Task Prescreen are important as the work of 3D assessment continues to be developed across states on a summative level, but also as districts and even classrooms work to develop assessments. We need to all be headed "roughly west" #NGSSchat
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    To punny, ted #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    We have used the prescreener to have some deep conversations around Ps. Make claims about tasks and find the evidence. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09, @Achieve
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2. The tools provide a common language. Prescreen really helps level the playing field by drawing attention to the BIG ideas w/out being overwhelming when Ts are learning. The Screener is WONDERFUL when we are ready for the deep dive into 3D assessments. #ngsschat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 - people are quick to say, we’re already doing that (or something like it) when it comes to NGSS. A criterion-based tool grounds those claims in evidence. And can help reveal where you really are, and are not aligned #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Q2 here on #NGSSchat ...
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 using the screener with a group of teachers to look at existing tasks is a great way for everyone to see what "counts" and what a 3D assessment really looks like - which will help them think differently when crafting their own assessments #ngsschat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2. I could be wrong but I think we have to support teachers in understanding the value of high quality formative assessment before we get to the screener work. The cognitive and cultural formative assessment, moving away from reliance on strategies. @AcesseProject #ngsschat
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: I have found Ts are worried a lot about assessments. Using a tool like the Task Screener and Prescreener will give them an idea of what true NGSS assessment should look like and hopefully get them to see what instruction would need to look like to get kids there #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Modeling!! It’s my absolute favorite SEP. All students can draw something - even our ELL & IEP students #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Q1 Follow up: What is your favorite task to use to make student thinking visible? Why do you love it? #NGSSChat
  • OfficialNGSS Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #NGSSchat If you haven't seen these resources, check out the Task Screener and Task Prescreen here: https://t.co/kidJ2Qeykk
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • taftphaedra1 Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    #ngsschat Phaedra Taft- k-5 science coach. Writing and implementing curriculum all day every day. Would love to learn more about assessment.
  • HollyMcGoran Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1: Assessments actually require students to think, act, and communicate like scientists #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Lots of shares about the impact of asking students to develop models on 3D assessments... #NGSSchat
    • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
      Q1 Follow up: Models! Ss show their thinking in a more natural, less intimidating way than a blank sheet of lined paper #ngsschat
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 part b. When taking the deep dive, the Task Screener allows for conversations about all of the little nuances that shape the assessments. When Ts understand these tools, they can better understand the instruction Ss need to achieve. #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    this is such a profound reflection--can you say more about what you mean? #NGSSchat
    • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
      I think maybe my older assessments were maybe more about what I “taught” versus what kids “learned”? #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: (well, I would say that at least one of those experts is suspect, and I would know because he lives in my house) Criteria give us a chance to really focus on what an assessment does or doesn't do rather than going with our gut impressions. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: There are so many uses for these tools from assessment development to professional learning. "Seeing" what we mean when we say something is or is not 3D and providing the rationale behind that is where the power of these tools lie. #ngsschat
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Criterion-based tools provide all of us a framework, common language and objective way to assess assessments. Just like a good rubric in the classroom, it isn't a subjective "gut feeling" #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Here are the tools for Q2.." @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat"
  • ksscienceguy Feb 21 @ 9:20 PM EST
    I think it's tough to really have students be making sense of a phenomena without combining at least two of the dimensions. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA, @kmgill135
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 Honestly, it's a great starting place for teachers who have only thought about traditional assessment - they can be encourage to try out one or two criteria, get comfortable with that, and then add additional. #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I agree, but I have seen many assessments with three 1D questions. We are all learning how to do this. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 - in Wisconsin we have a group building a K-12 table of assessment examples and sharing commentary on them with the PreScreen tool - talking through those reviews = great conversations #ngsschat
  • jbramsey5 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1 a lot of folks are modeling-centric here (me too), but I try to stick to the PE and use a strong rubric to help me analyze my student work in the appropriate SEP. Check out Literacy Design Collaborative tools #ngsschat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: I've used the prescreener with preservice teachers as a way to brainstorm the kind of learning experiences that might lead us to this point... #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: It's also important to have criteria so that we know what success looks like when we see it, even if it's only in one area or another. They give us footing to build on strengths and celebrate what we want to see more of! #NGSSchat
  • jbellerrsd Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I think ppl have said it, but an #assessment should be 3D. It should be focused on using #CCC & #SEP to figure out a new piece of content related to #unitofstudy #NGSSchat
  • MsVickScience Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
    I agree - it's hard to draft a good assessment question with 3D. But key is to vary the 2D's to ensure variety! #ngsschat
    • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
      I would say that they aren't. I wouldn't say that EVERY task in an assessment should combine all three dimensions, but that most should require at least 2 and some should require all 3. That's my opinion. What's yours? #ngsschat
      In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Love this! #NGSSChat
    • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2 - people are quick to say, we’re already doing that (or something like it) when it comes to NGSS. A criterion-based tool grounds those claims in evidence. And can help reveal where you really are, and are not aligned #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Helpful resources for #NGSS assessments #ngsschat thanks!
    • OfficialNGSS Feb 21 @ 9:19 PM EST
      #NGSSchat If you haven't seen these resources, check out the Task Screener and Task Prescreen here: https://t.co/kidJ2Qeykk
      • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
        Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    This is interesting to me; so are you saying build value of it first, then design assessments, then use the screener? #NGSSChat
    In reply to @starrscience, @AcesseProject
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Criterion based tools help you WRITE better assessments. #NGSSchat
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 I like to use the screener to try to open Ts minds about different ways to assess. Get them thinking about equity, fairness, and bias that so many traditional assessment have that many dont recognize. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Welcome to #NGSSChat Phaedra!
    In reply to @taftphaedra1
  • FriendArlene Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 My school is new to NGSS so this tool could help our science team understand what a 3D science assessment includes #NGSSChat
  • jbellerrsd Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: #phenomenon have removed the “why are we learning this” from Ss. They recognize their learning is now grounded. The more local the phenomena the better! #NGSSchat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2:The @AchieveInc task screener helps to remind educators(like me!)that experiences esp assessments should follow the criterion to make relevant & purposeful 3D,phenomena aligned experimental learning.Depth of knowledge,sense making,& even misconceptions should surface.#NGSSChat
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Phenomena is important because you cant see Ss sense making or reasoning without it! #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I'm sorry I'm late! Dan from Lawrence, MA. 6th grade science. #ngsschat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: I wonder how we avoid turning other teachers off of the NGSS when they see that their current assessments hit all the red flags in the prescreener?? #NGSSchat
  • InnerOrbitedu Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Late to the party here, but I'm Brendan from InnerOrbit, serving up NGSS formative assessments and excited to learn from you all! #ngsschat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2 Even though Ts tend to hate required testing I think having the opportunity to norm how we evaluate a good task can also help Ts see how teaching/learning needs to shift #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:15 PM EST
      Q2: @Achieve worked with experts across the country to develop the Science Task Screener and Task Prescreen. How could you use criterion-based tools to push thinking about science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2: the criteria don't just let you measure what does and doesn't work, but it also gives teachers a base when they talk and share with each other. Let's try not to make our classroom islands! #ngsschat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    I feel like that learning could be done together... #ngsschat
    In reply to @starrscience, @AcesseProject
  • dylankendall12 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3 phenomena are what gets kids "hooked" and leave a lasting impression on them. Help them develop mental models about ways things work and interact #NGSSChat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    these things are really complicated! its one of the reasons i love the "non-negotiable" of sense-making as a discerning check! #ngsschat
    • MsVickScience Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      I agree - it's hard to draft a good assessment question with 3D. But key is to vary the 2D's to ensure variety! #ngsschat
      • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:16 PM EST
        I would say that they aren't. I wouldn't say that EVERY task in an assessment should combine all three dimensions, but that most should require at least 2 and some should require all 3. That's my opinion. What's yours? #ngsschat
        In reply to @kmgill135
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    That’s my first reaction. I just feel that assessment literacy isn’t a strength in general and embracing more than exit slips might be necessary before moving on (?) #NGSSChat
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @AcesseProject
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: Ss learn that phenomena are repeatable and can be explained with science ideas. Using phenomena on assessments should put them in their comfort zone; they think about how to use the science ideas they have learned to try to explain what they see. #ngsschat
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Phenomena = equity = sensemaking #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Q3 here on #NGSSchat ... and a great resource about phenomena from @OfficialNGSS https://t.co/HYwlXdPgrc
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A2. These tools bring an NGSS-specific lens to task analysis. They clarify that NGSS assessment is about much more than just eliciting evidence of the three dimensions. #NGSSchat
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q2. Criteria based tools help to provide a foundation, a common language, a way to evaluate if they are have the innovations of NGSS. #NGSSChat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    .@Achieve just released a sneak peek of collaboratively-developed annotated examples of assessments, and (spoilers) phenomena were one of the most critical predictors of high-quality assessments. #NGSSchat https://t.co/2vMQ7R7Uoc
  • NGSSphenomena Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Academically productive phenomena are important for everything - especially assessments!! #NGSSchat #NGSS
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Authenticity. Novelty. Curiosity. The nature of science. Lots of things we have done to science making it not science. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: exposing kids to a novel phenomenon is the best way for kids to demonstrate what they have learned! Apply knowledge, skills, and reasoning of big ideas to figure something out on the fly. What could be more authentic?!?! #ngsschat
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A2 with these assessments being so different from past, we don’t even know what we don’t know about quality assessment dev. These tools give the means for change in the right direction for those wanting to start #NGSSchat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: Equity. Phenomena-based assessments are ACTUALLY interesting and fun to figure out. #NGSSChat
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I also wonder if students haven’t had 3D learning opportunities then what exactly are we assessing? So focus on unit embedded formative first? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @starrscience, @KerriWingert, @AcesseProject
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: phenomena give you an opportunity to leverage something we rarely see in assessments - student interest and curiosity! #ngsschat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: Phenomena bring relevance, authenticity, and reduce the chance that the assessment can be successfully completed through rote memorization. #NGSSchat
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3 Phenomena are so important as it levels the playing field for all Ss. It allow all Ss to question and formulate ideas and questions they want to figure out. When kids what to learn, they do PH. helps them engage. #NGSSchat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 this shifts the learning for students from "what my teacher tells me" to making it (and thus science) relevant to the lives of students #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
  • mrsrathsack Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    All students have the same frame of reference and the phenomenon can be revisited over and over again. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • OfficialNGSS Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    The Task Screener and Prescreen tools can absolutely be used to ground conversations among groups of educators! #NGSSchat https://t.co/kidJ2Qeykk
    • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
      A2: the criteria don't just let you measure what does and doesn't work, but it also gives teachers a base when they talk and share with each other. Let's try not to make our classroom islands! #ngsschat
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    We need to establish that idea of “re-novicing” with teachers before we start these tasks. Thanks Jill G. for your article about this. #ngsschat
    In reply to @tkSciGuy
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Welcome Dan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MisterSci
  • taftphaedra1 Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Q1 follow up #ngsschat 4th gr at end of energy unit w/transfers and transformations, can select an object and model/explain what happens with the energy. Some go back to the sun while others stay in the immediate
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 It’s the all important interest piece of learning. Give Ss a reason why they should care about learning. It’s also a way to involve student identity by utilizing local/cultural phenomena #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • FriendArlene Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 Phenomena is important for science assessments because Ss have something to apply their knowledge instead of listing science vocabulary #NGSSchat
  • teachearthspace Feb 21 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Phenomena is important with assessments because it gets to the three dimensions of learning. Can students really do science? They can't fake it! #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    yes to authenticity!!! #ngsschat
    • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:25 PM EST
      A3: exposing kids to a novel phenomenon is the best way for kids to demonstrate what they have learned! Apply knowledge, skills, and reasoning of big ideas to figure something out on the fly. What could be more authentic?!?! #ngsschat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 Science investigations unfold by identifying, framing, studying & making sense of phenomena over the course of them. So it makes sense to center phenomena in the sequence of assessments interwoven into investigations as a through-line. (Hi all! Sorry I'm late.) #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Welcome Brendan! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @InnerOrbitedu
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: Phenomena is critical because solid science literacy is rooted in the ability to take the complexities of the natural world and put them into understandable, coherent terms. Their ability to do this is critical to proficiency in the PEs. #NGSSchat
  • ElkinsSciKy Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 the phenomenon is the thing you build both instruction and assssment around. It’s the thing you “do science” on. #NGSSchat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    And, we have to remember that it's more difficult to be a novice the 2nd time around. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I think it’s similar to my shift in instruction. So assessments were “What did you learn about?” vs. “What can you figure out now?” #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I think the order that made sense to me was: - learn to teach 3D (no small thing) and get your curricula organized around phenomena - use some 3D assessments on your PEs - adapt/write your own 3D assessments - drop the mic #NGSSChat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @starrscience, @AcesseProject
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #NGSSchat and once you have that figured out you can work to move forward. The reflection done in using these tools results in growth!
    In reply to @NDE_Science
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: Science is about trying to understand and predict phenomena, so its essential that science assessments focus on phenomena. Besides, there is that catchy song from the muppets. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 setting up a question based on a phenomenon allows for many more opportunities for Ss to use the practices to show understanding of the science ideas. #ngsschat
  • InnerOrbitedu Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3: Phenomena drop students into REAL science. Making sense of the world, starting with basic assumptions and figuring out the rest along the way. #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Draws on all my skills to figure out how to support teachers. #theworldturnedupsidedown #NGSSChat
    In reply to @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Powerful! #NGSSchat
    • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:24 PM EST
      A3: Ss learn that phenomena are repeatable and can be explained with science ideas. Using phenomena on assessments should put them in their comfort zone; they think about how to use the science ideas they have learned to try to explain what they see. #ngsschat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: So much of what makes science science is observing phenomenon and gathering data. When our assessments use phenomena, we are closer to representing authentic science - rather than just asking S's to recall trivia. #ngsschat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: If we want ALL students to have opportunities to learn science, then relevant phenomena and problems are what we need to develop and support. Otherwise, we just gain interest from kids that were already interested in science. #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    i so love this--if we want students to show us that they can make sense of the world, we need assessments that actually ask them to do that! #ngsschat
    • ElkinsSciKy Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
      A3 the phenomenon is the thing you build both instruction and assssment around. It’s the thing you “do science” on. #NGSSchat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3 - because making sense of phenomena is what science is all about, and if you're using community relevant phenomena equity comes to the forefront of the assessment intent #ngsschat
  • ksscienceguy Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: Students should be assessed in ways that match the way they are learning. If their learning is about making sense of phenomena and designing solutions to problems, their assessment should be as well. #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3: Without phenomena, Ss have no context for learning or knowledge sharing. This provocation gives Ss a bigger picture for application. #NGSSChat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Can you share this article? #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I love this!!! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @abadri09, @Achieve
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Q3 we want students engaged in science as scientists. The phenomenonmakes that happen. Authentic, accessible, engaging, real science assessment #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I love when a see a variety in the models-- true student thinking! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @taftphaedra1
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3: This is the reason for NGSS no? We want Ss to “figure out” vs. “learn about” so centering assessment around phenomenon is as important as during instruction. #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:21 PM EST
      Q3. Criterion A of the Science Task Screener is all about phenomena. In your experience, why are phenomena important for science assessments? #NGSSChat
  • jbramsey5 Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A3 I've found that I need to mix it up within the storyline with a good variety of investigative phenomenon to keep kids engaged through the breadth of the unit. Circular narrative skills are key #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I feel the concern about the red flags and discouragement... I think I'd use the prescreener just with folks who are well on their way down 3D Road. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @MisterSci, @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    I love the “What can you figure out now?” approach to assessments! #NGSSChat
    • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:27 PM EST
      I think it’s similar to my shift in instruction. So assessments were “What did you learn about?” vs. “What can you figure out now?” #NGSSchat
      In reply to @abadri09
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Hi Phil! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @philiplbell
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    The Task Annotation Project in Science (TAPS) from @AchieveInc surfaces how assessments ask students to sense-make instead of just regurgitating what they know. Check out this sneak peek of a HS bio task! https://t.co/TkKcsxsTF9 #NGSSchat
  • cristaleamons Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    NGSS and Assessment #NGSSchat happening now. Follow the hashtag to find what teachers are doing to bring the promise of the NGSS to their student.
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3. Grounding an assessment in engaging phenomena focuses the task on students discovering something new with their' science "toolkit." It allows the assessments to be educative, interesting, and reveal evidence of meaningful science reasoning. #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: It would be so much easier if it was cents-making instead of sense-making. Although, when it comes to NGSS implementation, I have learned that it is sometimes hard to make change. But seriously, I think the key is the engagement in the practices. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3) I really think phenomena should be at the heart of instruction across content areas - I just wrote a bit about that #ngsschat https://t.co/E7vttSwUxZ
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: Students are making sense of a phenomena or solving a problem by DOING the SEP using the DCI concepts through the lens of the CCC. This doesn't have to be all in one question! But each ? needs to be at least 2D #NGSSchat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: Science literacy is not about accumulating a store of decontextualized scientific concepts, it is the ability to pick up & flexibly use knowledge pieces & practices in concert with evidence to explain things in the world or to solve problems of societal consequence #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Q4 on #NGSSchat ...
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:32 PM EST
    just for you #ngsschat https://t.co/bwUHQBHYWO
    In reply to @KerriWingert
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4. When students are sense-making, the artifacts produced reveal what is going on inside Ss heads--they are using their tools to wrestle with science ideas and explain phenomena or solve problems. #NGSSchat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    So excited to see what this project has to show us all. #NGSSchat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    It is the "ah ha" moment. It is the "oh shit all my rabbits died, what do I do?" (Disclaimer....this was a computer simulation. No actual rabbits were harmed in this assessment) #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4: I think multiple representations are key here. Push kids to represent their ideas verbally (text), graphically, pictorally, graphically, mathematically (equation). Encourage kiddos to use two or more representations! #ngsschat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4 students would really need to engage in SEP to accomplish this and, ideally, they would find utility in CCC to frame thinking #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4 I struggle here but I do know what it doesn’t look like. It’s not just finding the answer in the stimulus. Ss must bring ideas to the table & use them to solve the problem. #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    i have no words. but also, yup. #NGSSchat
    • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
      It is the "ah ha" moment. It is the "oh shit all my rabbits died, what do I do?" (Disclaimer....this was a computer simulation. No actual rabbits were harmed in this assessment) #NGSSChat
      • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
        Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • ksscienceguy Feb 21 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A4: It' not regurgitation and it's not reading comprehension. #NGSSchat
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4: Probably a place where sense-making is most apparent is when the answer is NOT in final form. Science is not a collection of facts, but a way of interpreting the world around us. #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4: Ss need to draw out, concept map, organize the steps of their thinking & even show several iterations using 3D of how they arrived at answer. I'm curious how we get that and then "grade" it for standardized test world. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A4. Students who are fully engaged, collaborating with each to find an answer or a solution. That don't want to stop even know the bell has rung. Is it assessment that is occurring? Is it leaning that is occuring? The answer is yes to both. #NGSSCHAT
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Q5: One of the most exciting parts of the @Achieve #ScienceTaskScreener is a focus on equity that goes beyond limiting bias (Criterion C).What are some ways assessments can be a lever for equity? #NGSSChat #equity #equityinscience
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    This is a tough one! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    So. . . do Ss have to use the CCC that we select for making sense, or can they use any CCC that works for them? How do we incorporate this flexibility in our assessments? #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Making sense can look like a lot of things. That is the best part; there can be very different "right answers"! Essentials include using valid reasoning (science ideas) to express how evidence (data of some sort that can be connected to a CCC) supports your claim... #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    #NGSSChat https://t.co/SEuvaKuTgG
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Students have to be asked to bring something to the table. They cannot just recall what the text said and score proficient. At the same time the assessment can't have ALL questions that are ALL 3D. We need steps, multiple items, thoughtful forms. #NGSSChat
  • FriendArlene Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I was thinking about using it on good 3D assessments to show teachers why they are good assessments #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @MisterSci, @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • safarnum Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A3: Relevance! Ss recognize that authentic assessments connect to real-world situations. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 One thing to look for in 3D assessment is knowledge being used in some meaningful way (e.g., for the purpose of communication, for analyzing a system, to inform a design). It is useful to follow stay focused on knowledge-in-use to attend to the science&engr practices #NGSSchat
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4: Others tonight have mentioned this but Ss sense-making looks like Ss using what they have learned and applying it to a new transfer task #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 When kids make sense of Ph themselves they are given an opportunity to really figrue things out which allows them to ability to transfer their knowledge to new context. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Talking #equity here on #NGSSchat Q5...
  • ElkinsSciKy Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 for us it took the form of a ‘storyline’ where we walked the kids thru a narrative of a phenomenon and asked them to use multiple dimensions to explore/explain #NGSSchat
  • racheljcox87 Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Perhaps this looks like presenting Ss with a new phenomenon with which they can apply their learning. #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    I'm sorry, but while equity is featured in NGSS, I don't think "levers" (or any other simple machines) are featured. #ngsschat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    And how to keep Ts engaged. So many get overwhelmed with the shift PLUS everything else that’s expected of them! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @starrscience, @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    love this! this can also be a really empowering experience for students as well--figuring something out! #ngsschat
    • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:35 PM EST
      A4 When kids make sense of Ph themselves they are given an opportunity to really figrue things out which allows them to ability to transfer their knowledge to new context. #NGSSchat
  • starrscience Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    In formative assessment, in classrooms, i think there are times when you need to know where Ss are on the DCI/content goals to better know how to tailor investigations with other relevant SEPs and CCCs. #ngsschat
    In reply to @mollyewing, @Ted_NSTA
  • jbramsey5 Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 serious key to good formative assessment design. If I can see student strengths and struggles, I know better how to approach instruction, differentiation, and appropriate summative instrument design #ngsschat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 - I like this quote: “Science is not a body of facts, [it] is a method for deciding whether what we choose to believe has a basis in the laws of nature or not.” – Marcia McNutt #ngsschat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
    I was thinking the same thing! So does a summative assessment have space for all those derivations before the "final answer" and how would we agree to grade that? The process not the final answer? #ngsschat
    In reply to @JohnRussell82
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
    We all need more low-inference assessments in our lives! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ksscienceguy
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Sometimes I hear kids say, ok I think I’ve got this...and they go in to explain why something is happening. They use observations/info/data given to construct an explanation using their own thinking. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Equity- I have noticed that many NGSS assessments have extended reading segments and require answers in sentences. This is a problem #NGSSchat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A5: Assessments can be a lever for equity because we can use them to set the stage that we expect ALL kids to achieve on 3D tasks BECAUSE ALL KIDS deserve to understand their world. (I'LL SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!) #ALLKIDS #NGSSchat
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I think @Ted_NSTA brought the sillies tonight :-) #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA, @Ted_NSTA
  • JChodos Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
    They do science using science knowledge and reasoning #NGSSChat
    In reply to @bbarent, @abadri09
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
    i would love to think together more about how we can push all assessment practices in this direction! #ngsschat #equity
    • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Q5: The hardest, but most important, part is grading it all and/or encouraging growth with feedback. (I prefer the latter idea) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09, @Achieve
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
    This is where I think formative assessing (both of and for learning) is important so that we’ve tracked S learning along the way. That way the grade is not solely reliable on one test. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @sciresSoehl
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
    This is so far from reality and that is such a real problem... #ngsschat
    • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
    how can we grade/ provide feedback with equity in mind? #ngsschat
    • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:38 PM EST
      Q5: The hardest, but most important, part is grading it all and/or encouraging growth with feedback. (I prefer the latter idea) #NGSSchat
      In reply to @abadri09, @Achieve
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Love this!!! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @philiplbell
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I love it when kids say 'I feel like I don't have to study because I already know how to do this because I have done this all before' Assessing the way you teach allows for student success and is powerful for kids that have 'traditionally' failed #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I agree with @sciresSoehl. The more I try to meaningfully assess using 3D, even w / summative assessments, the more I'm OK w / giving feedback and being flexible on grade. It's not that a student is getting it wrong. Real scientists use feedback to refine understanding! #NGSSchat
    • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
      A4: Ss need to draw out, concept map, organize the steps of their thinking & even show several iterations using 3D of how they arrived at answer. I'm curious how we get that and then "grade" it for standardized test world. #ngsschat
      • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
        Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Q5 by framing assessment around figuring out phenom, students are using their own thinking. They aren’t having to regurgitate what T tells them the thinking should be. This is equity. #doesthatmakesense #NGSSchat
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Okay, so I hate to say it, but assessment does drive change. If the change we want to see is that ALL Ss can possess a strong science identity--that ALL kids can think scientifically--that ALL kids can DO science; our assessments need to foreground that. #allmeansall #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    feedback can be empowering rather than punitive, which i think we can all agree helps us be confident in our thinking and grow in our understanding at the same time. #ngsschat
    • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
      I agree with @sciresSoehl. The more I try to meaningfully assess using 3D, even w / summative assessments, the more I'm OK w / giving feedback and being flexible on grade. It's not that a student is getting it wrong. Real scientists use feedback to refine understanding! #NGSSchat
      • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:34 PM EST
        A4: Ss need to draw out, concept map, organize the steps of their thinking & even show several iterations using 3D of how they arrived at answer. I'm curious how we get that and then "grade" it for standardized test world. #ngsschat
        • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:28 PM EST
          Q4. One of the most important “non-negotiables” of #NGSS assessments (and Criterion B of the task screener) is that students must use the 3Ds to make sense of phenomena/solve problems. What does it look like when students sense-make in science assessments? #NGSSchat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    There are a lot of structures / realities that make it challenging! I do see it in moments where educators give meaningful feedback to students on their work and thinking, connect them to further resources / experiences. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @WisDPIscience
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    At minimum, I'd say take a look at race, gender, and SES and see if there are patterns in how your students are "achieving." If there are patterns, address them. Could be bias, could be instructional... etc. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I'm working on a project to highlight small steps for teachers to move towards #NGSS to help avoid overwhelming teachers who struggle with the vision. #NGSSchat
    • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:36 PM EST
      And how to keep Ts engaged. So many get overwhelmed with the shift PLUS everything else that’s expected of them! #NGSSChat
      In reply to @starrscience, @kmgill135, @tkSciGuy
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    YES! #ngsschat
    • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Okay, so I hate to say it, but assessment does drive change. If the change we want to see is that ALL Ss can possess a strong science identity--that ALL kids can think scientifically--that ALL kids can DO science; our assessments need to foreground that. #allmeansall #NGSSchat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A5 allowing all Ss (not those teachers deem "ready" bc they already have certain "skills" or "knowledge") be a part of complex knowledge building in a classroom allow for ALL students to work toward becoming independent learners #ngsschat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Yes! #NGSSChat I think in other areas of life we provide feedback to our children and peers as a way to show we care about their success. Framing assessments with #equity in mind means we remove the punitive nature of it.
    • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q5 follow up: One of the indicators in Criterion C of the Science Task Screener is about assessments that build student interest and confidence (my favorite!). How do/could assessments empower students? Support student confidence, identity, and interest in science? #NGSSchat
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A couple Wisconsin educators recently wrote a guest blog post for me about student feedback in their standards-based grading system. I think they had some good ideas. #ngsschat https://t.co/ZzFy9orq7r
    In reply to @abadri09
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5 It def should NOT be about "gotcha", but setting Ss up to authentically express understanding-Hinted at tonight, setting Ss up to explain phenomena (ideally of interest and relevance to "these" Ss) and mirroring this in assessment, sets the equity stage #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5 There is more than one way to figure out a phenomenon. The variety of paths allows Ss to figure it out based on their own understanding rather than an already determined path #NGSSChat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    How can we communicate this to stakeholders like administrators, parents, undergraduate college admission boards, etc - ? How can we ensure we are always working at multiple levels in the system? #NGSS #NGSSchat
    • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #NGSSchat
    • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Okay, so I hate to say it, but assessment does drive change. If the change we want to see is that ALL Ss can possess a strong science identity--that ALL kids can think scientifically--that ALL kids can DO science; our assessments need to foreground that. #allmeansall #NGSSchat
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5:I actually pull something here from time working in Math. One of the dimensions of the TRU framework is Agency, Ownership, and Identity - the extent to which students feel a positive identity as learners with respect to the work they are doing #ngsschat https://t.co/llkDM99Kkm
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Q5 follow-up on #NGSSchat ...
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Q5 follow up: One of the indicators in Criterion C of the Science Task Screener is about assessments that build student interest and confidence (my favorite!). How do/could assessments empower students? Support student confidence, identity, and interest in science? #NGSSchat
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A5 Students experience multiple and varied assessment opportunities. ALL students can do science. ALL students working to becoming problem solvers,critical thinkers, independent learners, #ngsschat
  • marismiller6 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    I will one up your question - How can we use standards-based grading with the NGSS PEs? Anyone trying it? #ngsschat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    When science is about learning answers…you gotta study. But performance assessments are about doing as much as knowing. So practicing the practices to make sense is all the prep one needs? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
    ❤️ #NGSSchat
    In reply to @RamseyKatie
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
    This is my favorite task because it's about #Nebraska #NGSSChat @bbarent @RamseyKatie
    In reply to @abadri09, @AchieveInc, @bbarent, @RamseyKatie
  • dramyhimes Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Hello! Amy from Omaha, Nebraska. Just catching up with the action! #ngsschat
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A5: If assessment is aligned w/ learning progressions, and all students have had the opportunity to build understanding together; the assessment should be built on this shared experience... equity. #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
    I frequently think of the Performance Expectations as a designed solution to the problem of assessments that were not focused on measuring things we actually cared about students being able to do. #ngsschat
    • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Okay, so I hate to say it, but assessment does drive change. If the change we want to see is that ALL Ss can possess a strong science identity--that ALL kids can think scientifically--that ALL kids can DO science; our assessments need to foreground that. #allmeansall #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Yep. Agreed! #NGSSChat #OKSci
    • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:40 PM EST
      Okay, so I hate to say it, but assessment does drive change. If the change we want to see is that ALL Ss can possess a strong science identity--that ALL kids can think scientifically--that ALL kids can DO science; our assessments need to foreground that. #allmeansall #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Welcome Amy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @dramyhimes
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5: The ? of assessment equity becomes interesting when thinking abt feedback & proficiency levels. Why do kids only get 1 shot? What if they need a longer runway? Does that mean they shouldn't pursue science? How might we refine feedback we give to consider equity? #NGSSchat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    ANOTHER NEBRASKAN! HOLY COW! (OR CORN?) #NGSSChat (Hi Amy!)
    In reply to @dramyhimes
  • WisDPIscience Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q5 follow up - I really like this idea of assessment being a tool to build students identity and confidence. It all depends on what's done with the assessment - build toward further learning or just get a grade... #ngsschat
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5: Phenomena/ problems that is seen firsthand by Ss can get all Ss to relate to it and serve as a source of equity in the classroom #NGSSchat
  • jbellerrsd Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5FU: Ss follow up on #assessment regarding Earths place in Universe... “I can’t believe how much ppl figured out w/ so basic tools!” Pushed them to think of what might be considered similar today... they were generally intrigued! #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Agree! So what does look like? #ngsschat bc in my mind, my Ss don't know cliff swallows and just mentioning Nebraska made them go whaaaat? @AchieveInc
    In reply to @NDE_Science, @AchieveInc
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5: Phenomena drive equity by making sure we're not presuming 100% shared life experiences. We support equity when we give S's 2nd chances to master challenging application of practices. And, to state the obvious, accommodate / modify for language and other needs! #NGSSchat
  • geererc Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Yes! I tell my kids they cannot study for our tests and they should not stress out either. If they’ve participated in class they will be successful. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @krademaker
  • VogelWendi Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 Follow up: First Ts need to understand this. Been working w/ Elementary Ts on revising/rewriting some in a resource. Many have never looked at their PEs, let alone the Framework. Build their confidence, ID, and interest, they can be champions for science too. #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Q5 follow up: One of the indicators in Criterion C of the Science Task Screener is about assessments that build student interest and confidence (my favorite!). How do/could assessments empower students? Support student confidence, identity, and interest in science? #NGSSchat
  • NATS_Science Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    What can we say, Nebraska science teachers rock! #ngsschat
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @dramyhimes
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    That is an interesting set of questions!! I think we need to figure out how to develop communities of practice with this kind of caring set of norms centered throughout the work that we do. // Partnerships are one way to work across multiple levels of the system. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    First, we find out what our students care about. Then, we build learning opportunities and assessments around those things. In the end, we foster a culture where "failure" is a learning opportunity...something that everyone should do. #takingfearoutoffailure #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Q5 follow up: One of the indicators in Criterion C of the Science Task Screener is about assessments that build student interest and confidence (my favorite!). How do/could assessments empower students? Support student confidence, identity, and interest in science? #NGSSchat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: When we ask kids to use three dimensions on an assessment, we allow all students to be successful rather than just rewarding students who have excellent memories or whose family members place a high value on learning. #NGSSchat
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Q5. Reasoning about phenomena is well suited to be asset-based. When the assessment isn't just looking for ONE right answer all students feel like they can offer SOMETHING. This can be very effective in inviting all students into a challenging task. #ngsschat
  • ChienforSTEM Feb 21 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: Equity is one that I struggle w/ in terms of #NGSS assessments. Ss make sense of learning experiences in different ways & I always appreciate the progress towards sense making w/ phenomena.Using a continuum of learning on rubrics helps w/ equity & personalization. #NGSSCHAT
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I mean A5. I'm ready to go home. #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Feedback allows Ts the opportunity to tell Ss what they are doing RIGHT, not just what they did wrong. Helping Ss see all the knowledge they have gained can be the encouragement needed in continuing on #NGSSChat #OKSci
    • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
      A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    No shame in my #GBR game. ;) #NGSSChat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA, @abadri09, @AchieveInc, @bbarent, @RamseyKatie
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    this task is an interesting example from @snapgse of helping give students choice around a meaningful phenom, helping to empower students while assessing current understanding #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Especially when the task we're giving feedback on is rich, and requires application of practices to grapple w / novel phenomena! That feedback will always be more interesting and useful to S's than "#5 is wrong." #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • geererc Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Tackling a new problem in a new context successfully reinforces the skills and content and allows for that ah-ha rush...#NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Next week are publishing a new @AcesseProject resource on @STEMTeachTools focused on learning to see the diverse sense-making resources of students. That is one strategy that can help here—but it is at odds with pushes for uniformity in the work we do (eg, assessment). #NGSSchat
    In reply to @ChienforSTEM, @AcesseProject, @STEMTeachTools
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5 Follow: WHEN assessment is rooted in engaging phenomenon AND the instructional cycle provides ample opportunity for teacher feedback via FA, THEN students experience that amazing sense of accomplishment during assessment, aka, "I CAN DO THIS!" #ngsschat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I’ve found that asking Ts to try just one or two things at a time then follow up with them to reflect has moved many forward. Giving Ts the space, time and support to make the shift is such an important piece! #NGSSChat
    In reply to @tkSciGuy
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
    A5 Follow up: Students being able to using their understanding of the three dimensions they learned about in class in a transfer task assessment successfully could really help them see how all science is related and get excited about that! #NGSSchat
  • OfficialNGSS Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #NGSSchat You can view this @AchieveInc task annotation here: https://t.co/Qqj57YQKEi
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:47 PM EST
      this task is an interesting example from @snapgse of helping give students choice around a meaningful phenom, helping to empower students while assessing current understanding #NGSSchat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. #NGSSchat
    • geererc Feb 21 @ 9:45 PM EST
      Yes! I tell my kids they cannot study for our tests and they should not stress out either. If they’ve participated in class they will be successful. #NGSSchat
      In reply to @richbacolor, @krademaker
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Follow @STEMTeachTools next week. We are posting a new @AcesseProject resource that goes in this direction. #ngsschat
    In reply to @MandyMathEd, @STEMTeachTools, @AcesseProject
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q6: With more involved tasks, there are big questions about grading, scoring, and reporting. What are some ways we can provide students with feedback that matters? #NGSSChat
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    While I don't want assessments to be mean, I think it is important to keep the expectations high. We do students no favors by giving them questions that don't challenge their understanding. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Dora_Kastel, @flabellinaJG
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    I'm in!! This is the kind of work I want to explore in @BostonSchools, how can we translate and leverage the great working happening in some pockets - across larger systems (i.e., level-c learning)?!? When is the grant due... ;) #NGSSchat #NGSS @BUWheelock
    In reply to @philiplbell, @BostonSchools, @BUWheelock
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Q6 on #NGSSchat ...
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: With more involved tasks, there are big questions about grading, scoring, and reporting. What are some ways we can provide students with feedback that matters? #NGSSChat
  • RPDPSci Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    This is really important to think through while developing assessment tools- the when, how, and what - for types of feedback and scaffolding built within the assessment tool and teacher guidance #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      Q5 follow up: One of the indicators in Criterion C of the Science Task Screener is about assessments that build student interest and confidence (my favorite!). How do/could assessments empower students? Support student confidence, identity, and interest in science? #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
    One of the best skills I learned from @tiffanyneill for building collaborative knowledge was being selective of the group order for sharing. Building knowledge by “random” order allowed all Ss to feel like they contributed. #NGSSChat
    • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:41 PM EST
      A5 allowing all Ss (not those teachers deem "ready" bc they already have certain "skills" or "knowledge") be a part of complex knowledge building in a classroom allow for ALL students to work toward becoming independent learners #ngsschat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
    sigh... #ngsschat. @AchieveInc will be releasing a resource on this next week--we should think about how to use the @AcesseProject resources and these upcoming resources together! #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
      i wonder how we can think about trade-offs here, and how to make better decisions about assessments by transparently surfacing the trade-offs we're making in assessment. #ngss chat
  • jbellerrsd Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A6: I have not been putting score on paper, only feedback. Puts Ss focus on what you wrote rather than their score #feedback #assessments #NGSSchat
  • hhereau Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Moving to SBGing has been a lot of work. Thinking about how to create systems for feedback that are frequent and meaningful without "giving away the answer" etc is hard. However, it's been the thing that has brought about the most change in S attitude toward learning #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Q5 follow up the proverbial “W do I need to know this?” comes to mind. #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A6: Feedback in general has to get more useful for Ss. It's one thing to know where you stand, it's something else entirely to get feedback that helps you know where to go next. #NGSSchat
  • VogelWendi Feb 21 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Glad to lurk and chat a bit. Not feeling so well tonight so leaving early. Shameless plug on way out: Could use some April and May @NGSS_tweeps hosts. Let me know. I love the @AchieveInc tools! #NGSSchat
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6: Build assessments that are rich but not too lengthy. If we intend to give valuable feedback we must recognize our limitations. Valuable feedback is timely among other things. #ngsschat
  • krademaker Feb 21 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6 I found Ss paid more attention to the feedback when I stopped putting grades on papers. They hated it but it got them thinking about what they were figuring out and not about a score. #NGSSchat
  • kmgill135 Feb 21 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6: written teacher feedback, no score until Ss respond to feedback, time in class for Ss to respond or redo. Make this part of the learning. #NGSSchat
  • snapgse Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    And this process has been SO helpful for reflecting on how to improve this task and others. There's a new version of this one on our site https://t.co/RJmeE6wlHK. #ngsschat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6: We also have to keep moving away from the "one shot this one time" assessment mode and shift into "as many times as you need" mode. Why punish a kid who takes multiple times to learn if they END UP LEARNING IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE. #NGSSchat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6: Honestly in my (pipe) dream world we would just keep asking students questions until forever. Evaluation shuts down sensemaking and ruins the learning enterprise. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6: one trick I have suggested is to evaluate students thinking based on what is reasonable for them to know from the experiences they have had so far in a unit rather than compare their ideas to the scientifically accepted understanding. #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: With more involved tasks, there are big questions about grading, scoring, and reporting. What are some ways we can provide students with feedback that matters? #NGSSChat
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    That’s so important. We constantly say we want engaged learners…why would we create assessments/feedback loops that disengage them? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @hhereau, @abadri09
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Poop @KerriWingert #NGSSchat
    In reply to @abadri09, @KerriWingert
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    One last question coming up! #NGSSchat
  • NDE_Science Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6. Rubrics. Well-designed rubrics that communicate to Ss where they are on a continuum of learning in all 3 dimensions. But before we just give a score, let's make sure our task is designed well. Rubrics are best when they have been built after looking at student work. #NGSSchat
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Feedback needs to be targeted at the concepts and ideas students are struggling with, not just about a number! #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Limit assessment to meaningful application of practices! Cut simple recall items. This leaves enough time to give ALL kids several rounds of feedback. And then allow kids follow-up chances to master skills they struggle with, so they can use the feedback to improve! #NGSSchat
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    Wow. So true... #NGSSchat
    In reply to @KerriWingert, @abadri09
  • JohnRussell82 Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Assessment is often seen as a private process - the S takes the assessment, the T grades it and gives feedback. This is literally the antithesis of a vibrant scientific community. I like how some of the @STEMTeachTools can be turned into talk afterwards as well. #NGSSchat
  • sciresSoehl Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6: Recent unit w NGSS components has "gotta have" checklists not just for content (DCI) but process & skills, IE model must have arrows showing materials interacting, describe two systems working together, etc #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: With more involved tasks, there are big questions about grading, scoring, and reporting. What are some ways we can provide students with feedback that matters? #NGSSChat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 This is one of the main research-practice tensions related to assessment. Formative assessment research cautions against grading since it strongly shifts incentive structure for Ss sharing their thinking openly. But institutions often reinforce the need to grade. #NGSSchat
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Q8: What’s one thing you can commit to trying to make science assessments more 3D?#NGSSChat
  • RachaelManzer Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Q6 One of the most powerful feedback on assessments I have experienced is when I took an independently taken student assessment task back to a full class discourse circle to make meaning. Working together they discovered meaning. Powerful! #ngsschat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6 explicitly working w: Ss s on what do w/ feedback makes it more meaningful. Ts are understandably reluctant to “give up” class time for this. Pressure to cover everything & get thru the curriculum needs to be lifted during a time of transition. Feedback takes time! #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: Kids also deserve well-defined success criteria. They need to know exactly what they are responsible for demonstrating. We have to "let kids in on the secret". It's not cheating, it's fair. #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I wish T organizations could collaborate more with Admin organizations - it’d be so wonderful to present 3D Teaching and Learning at an administrator conference! #NGSSChat
    • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      How can we communicate this to stakeholders like administrators, parents, undergraduate college admission boards, etc - ? How can we ensure we are always working at multiple levels in the system? #NGSS #NGSSchat
      • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:37 PM EST
        A5 My recent equity framing for this is to consider assessment as a caring practice that is fundamentally part of the educator’s intellectual relationship to their students... #ngsschat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    I think this is so important. (YES...I do that darn state summative assessment). We need learn how to function when each child's path through learning is unique. #NGSSchat
    • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:53 PM EST
      A6: We also have to keep moving away from the "one shot this one time" assessment mode and shift into "as many times as you need" mode. Why punish a kid who takes multiple times to learn if they END UP LEARNING IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE. #NGSSchat
  • Andrea_Brook_LO Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: such an important question. Formative assessment and exemplars are a start. Feedback on thinking / process / reasoning instead of product / outcome / answers. #ngsschat
  • tjscience Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: I love this image (from @AcesseProject ) when thinking about feedback for students. Simply asking PSTs & ISTs what they notice in this slide leads to deep conversations about why & how we assess students... #NGSSchat
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
    In my alternative school teaching I almost never graded. It was just all questions all the time. I was trying to heal kids' relationships with school and grading did not serve me. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @bbarent, @abadri09
  • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Q7: What’s one thing you can commit to trying to make assessments more supportive of students science learning?#NGSSChat
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Q6 it starts with having a clear understanding of the purpose of feedback. Feedback to feed forward. #NGSSchat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Assessment as community wayfinding through an investigation! :-) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tjscience, @AcesseProject
  • RPDPSci Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    And the processes/strategies the S used and was/was not successful for the task. All three types are very impactful. #NGSSChat
    • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:54 PM EST
      A6: Feedback needs to be targeted at the concepts and ideas students are struggling with, not just about a number! #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    My favorite (there are many) quotes about this is from Brett Moulding, “Science class should be more like Jazz Band than Music Appreciation.” #NGSSChat
    • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
      When science is about learning answers…you gotta study. But performance assessments are about doing as much as knowing. So practicing the practices to make sense is all the prep one needs? #NGSSchat
      In reply to @krademaker
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I'm on board with high expectation, but that's not the same thing as assessment intended to "catch" Ss at NOT memorizing that one thing-it means moving away from science is elitist and something that only students who think like the teacher can succeed at #NGSSChat #NGSS #CANGSS
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA, @Dora_Kastel
  • geererc Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Agreed. Quick mini-assessments at the end of each lesson with very low weight lets kids get a sense of how they’re doing without crushing their grade. End of unit assessment is what really counts. #NGSSchat #embeddedassessment @MTU_MiSTAR
    In reply to @tylercbritt, @MTU_MiSTAR
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A7: For now, my commitment is to keep learning from as many people about what is working. The smartest person in the room is the room. We have to grow together so we can make better choices for our kids. #NGSSchat
  • tjheckyeah Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I guess I will keep my toes in the water. Dream bigger Do better. #NGSSchat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
      Q8: What’s one thing you can commit to trying to make science assessments more 3D?#NGSSChat
  • tkSciGuy Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    and textbooks offer "formative assessment," but they don't provide any advice on what to do with the formative data. Ts need suggestions on how to alter instruction based on formative assessment results (at least I need help on this). #NGSSchat
    In reply to @philiplbell
  • revel56 Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A8: I commit to continue to try to make assessment as authentic as possible and to align assessment with learning in all 3 dimensions. #ngsschat
  • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A7 & A8 embed them into instructional materials! #oer #NGSSchat
  • MisterSci Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I. Love. This. #NGSSchat
    • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:57 PM EST
      My favorite (there are many) quotes about this is from Brett Moulding, “Science class should be more like Jazz Band than Music Appreciation.” #NGSSChat
      • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:42 PM EST
        When science is about learning answers…you gotta study. But performance assessments are about doing as much as knowing. So practicing the practices to make sense is all the prep one needs? #NGSSchat
        In reply to @krademaker
  • racheljcox87 Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I’m on the fence with this one- Is there never a need for students to commit vocab or concepts to memory? Perhaps a student can apply their learning through SEPs but struggles to retain tricky science vocab that are essential for explanations... 🤔 #NGSSchat
    In reply to @richbacolor, @krademaker
  • Ted_NSTA Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A7: I will commit to designing an assessment workshop to hold in conjunction with NSTA's STEM Forum this July in San Francisco (also because @TdiShelton said I had to do it) #ngsschat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:56 PM EST
      Q7: What’s one thing you can commit to trying to make assessments more supportive of students science learning?#NGSSChat
  • flabellinaJG Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Dang @abadri09 - you move a #NGSSChat as fast as you think and talk! :)
  • RamseyKatie Feb 21 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A6 Really examining our beliefs about “grades” and “evaluation”. Giving good feedback should be followed by letting Ss use it to improve their understanding. Yes, I believe in redo! #NGSSchat
  • MsLorisStory Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A7: My commitment is to keep trying and working because I've seen how much I have grown with NGSS lesson design in the past few years, I'm excited to see how far I can grow NGSS assessment-wise! #NGSSchat
  • tylercbritt Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A7: Also, I'm committed to honoring how HARD this is when talking to Ts. It is difficult, and the job of classroom teacher is so complex. They must feel supported. Celebrate success, build on strengths! #NGSSchat
  • tchingelements Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    A6 Don’t grade every piece of paper. Let’s not be critical during every tiny step of learning. I’d hate for my boss to grade me every moment of every day! #NGSSChat
    • abadri09 Feb 21 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Q6: With more involved tasks, there are big questions about grading, scoring, and reporting. What are some ways we can provide students with feedback that matters? #NGSSChat
  • bbarent Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    #NGSSchat are there some talk moved for helping Ss know what to do with feedback? I need them!!!
    In reply to @Dora_Kastel
  • KerriWingert Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Haha there was a tweet earlier this week where a PhD in Physics called a photon a "light crumb"... I am definitely on a certain side of the fence. #NGSSChat
    In reply to @racheljcox87, @richbacolor, @krademaker
  • jhubb546 Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Hey #ngsschat sorry to miss the chat. I got lost in a tech road map that I'm researching for my school. Hope you all are having a good week!
  • richbacolor Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Exactly. You ever notice band/orchestra parents show up for real performances to see what the Ss learn? Somehow we don’t have the same “trust” in performance assessments in academic core classes. #ngsschat
    In reply to @tchingelements
  • RPDPSci Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Agreed. I think the shift is supporting T.S. and Ss to spend time on the meaningful feedback moments rather than all potential feedback moments in addition to the shift from “coverage” to phenomena focus. #NGSSChat
    • Dora_Kastel Feb 21 @ 9:55 PM EST
      A6 explicitly working w: Ss s on what do w/ feedback makes it more meaningful. Ts are understandably reluctant to “give up” class time for this. Pressure to cover everything & get thru the curriculum needs to be lifted during a time of transition. Feedback takes time! #NGSSchat
  • philiplbell Feb 21 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Hi @tkSciGuy! I hope all is well with you. Yes -- this is a known gap. We need to do better providing theoretical lenses / tools for doing this. This resource on facets of reasoning is where we've focused our efforts… https://t.co/eWHIb1qaxO #NGSSchat
    In reply to @tkSciGuy, @tkSciGuy