#caedchat Archive
#caedchat is for California educators, by California educators. All are welcome as moderators and participants discuss issues that emerge in California education, which are generally applicable to other regions of the United States.
Sunday May 7, 2017
11:00 PM EDT
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#caedchat
, where educators gather to share and collaborate!
participatechat
May 7 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#caedchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/7y0wlfunj8
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:00 PM EDT
Okay, we are getting underway! Welcome,
@ucdjoe
, whom I am honored to have co-modding with me tonight.
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Let’s all take a moment to introduce ourselves. Where are you from? What do you teach?
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Right back atcha! Thank you for the invite!
#CAEdChat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Make sure you watch the
@CAedchat
account for info about how Twitter chats work.
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MrsFrankesClass
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
I live in Southern California but I'm not from here... I teach first grade.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
I am Joe Wood - Director of Technology/Assessment for
@natomascharter
in Sacramento.
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NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:01 PM EDT
Lisa, Central Coast, 5th Grade
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:02 PM EDT
I’m Diane Main, Director of Learning, Innovation and Design (9-12) at The Harker School in San Jose. I also have a PTSD diagnosis.
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CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Thank you for joining
#caedchat
tonight. The topic is “Trauma-Informed Education.”
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Hello
#caedchat
Leila here from Escondido looking forward to sharing with my favorite PLN
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Thank you for joining us!
#CAEdChat
In reply to @MrsFrankesClass
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:02 PM EDT
I am hoping that some of the folks I saw at
#CUEBOLD
this weekend are back home and able to join us tonight for
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Tonight’s
#caedchat
is moderated by
@dowbiggin
and
@ucdjoe
.
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Thank you for joining us Lella!
#CAEdChat
In reply to @principledlady
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Kevin, 6th grade on the central coast. Ramping up for the final weeks of school.
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wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Mark Hall, a TOSA is Stockton Ca.
#CAEdChat
pgilders
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
We're looking for a 5th grade T at San Antonio USD on border of Monterey and SLO counties. Find us on Edjoin.
#caedchat
thedrmorgan
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
John, Dir of EdTech from Capistrano
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:03 PM EDT
Thank you so much to all of you for joining us. I'm looking forward to a great chat tonight.
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:04 PM EDT
Here is the link to the public doc with the questions for tonight.
https://t.co/RNNVs0ptCT
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Moderators will post questions with Q1, Q2, Q3. Participants respond with A1, A2, A3, etc.
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Everyone settling in with a drink and a focus on how we can better work with Ss who have experienced trauma?
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MarisaG155
May 7 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Marisa, substitute teacher and credential student in Central Valley CA
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melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:05 PM EDT
Oops. That was my class account! But I'm back. First grade, SoCal, Literacy focused.
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CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:06 PM EDT
#caedchat
tip: Use TweetDeck and have two columns open for the chat: one for real time and one for where you are in the chat.
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:06 PM EDT
Good questions tonight
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:04 PM EDT
Here is the link to the public doc with the questions for tonight.
https://t.co/RNNVs0ptCT
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:06 PM EDT
Research suggests that between one-half and two-thirds of all children experience trauma. Source:
https://t.co/UXsMcTqC7k
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:07 PM EDT
To participate in the chat, be sure to use the
#caedchat
hashtag on every tweet.
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:07 PM EDT
Good evening
#caedchat
. I teach K in San Diego.
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:07 PM EDT
Seeing a wide range of representation, both in terms of Ts and their Ss and geography w/in CA tonight!
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:08 PM EDT
------------> Q1 is ready, are you? Watch for
@dowbiggin
.
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:08 PM EDT
FYI, use Ts for teachers and Ss for students to save on characters in your tweets!
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
Q1: What have you found challenging about working with students who have experienced trauma?
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: When I worked with many Ss who'd had trauma in their lives, I was so young and uninformed.
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LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
@BarbaraGruener
I wish you were awake to join
#caedchat
on this chat about
#trauma
.
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
Gloria Cazarez, 3rd year teacher, 1/2 multi-age classroom, Central Valley, CA
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: Even as I got older, it wasn't until I had treatment for PTSD that I started to see ways Ss might be coping.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: Not taking the emotional outbursts or behaviors personally, de escalating myself in the moment.
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NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: So many challenges. Not knowing history, knowing triggers, Outbursts, shut downs
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wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
I am still so uninformed. Not so much on the young part though.
#CAEdChat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: It's always SO COMPLEX. Feels insurmountable. Loving them is the tip of the iceberg. A good start.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: And even when you do know having no idea what to do about it.
#caedchat
In reply to @NowaTechie
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: Each ss exp. trauma differently & has different supports in place (or not). In classroom, it means many differing responses
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: Our society puts a stigma on all mental illness and "hides" trauma and its effects, so Ss often don't let you know.
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principledlady
May 7 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1: often times Ss in the midst of or following traumatic experiences don't present the same way. Makes helping a challenge
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LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1: Each child's trauma is different. I recently wrote a blog post about trauma.
https://t.co/0ghdsDVVqU
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1: Often too trauma can look like ADHD, but medications are only hiding the problem.
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:11 PM EDT
A1: Sometimes due to shame, families don't want us to reach out to Ss, when that's what they may need most.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
And realizing that the content you're teaching isn't the most pressing thing in their life at any given moment. Not about you.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
A1: When Ss aren't getting the help they need, it does indeed look like other things. Or worse, a choice.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
A1: Sometimes too the system which is designed to support may have traumatic impacts re: foster care
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chaugen
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
A1: Challenging 2 get everyone 2 realize the child doesn't "want" to misbehave/struggle/have outbursts/etc.
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LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
As a T, I am seeing more Ss experiencing trauma for a variety of reasons. I must be aware of their needs.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
Amen!
#CAEdChat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
And realizing that the content you're teaching isn't the most pressing thing in their life at any given moment. Not about you.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: We just had an incident in SJ where the 13yo survivor will undoubtedly need help. (cont.)
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
Absolutely...may just be the only way they feel the have a voice in the situation #
#CAEdChat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
A1: Challenging 2 get everyone 2 realize the child doesn't "want" to misbehave/struggle/have outbursts/etc.
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chaugen
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
Yes! Academics may be very low on list of goals. It's ok.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
And realizing that the content you're teaching isn't the most pressing thing in their life at any given moment. Not about you.
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: Flipping this answer. the most rewarding part has been finding the right way to connect w/ SS
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LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
As I read this article by the NEA, I felt as if these were some of my Ss.
https://t.co/rij9DmwvPY
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1 The students need a lot, and their needs are nearly constant. It's exhausting for one teacher with several students.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: Incidents that make the news will often get recognized. Many Ss live w/ trauma no one knows about.
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SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
This must change in schools. So many people experience mental illness or know someone who does, yet we know very little about it.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: Our society puts a stigma on all mental illness and "hides" trauma and its effects, so Ss often don't let you know.
#caedchat
wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: Working in urban area so much trauma. I couldn't even I still have no understanding of how kids get to school some days.
#CAEdChat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
A1:Families in trauma don't always know how to ask for help, can be very difficult, may need support every step of the way
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SMooreBC
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
trauma can manifest loud, quiet, shy, outlandish, grief, guilt, the real common factor is not wanting to talk about it.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
Yes! And seeing the amazing progress they can make over time.
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GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: Flipping this answer. the most rewarding part has been finding the right way to connect w/ SS
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CDWG_California
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
EdTech_K12: .InnovateRI is helping to spread
#personalizedlearning
across
#k12
classrooms.
https://t.co/s8T7FbgSPk
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
A1: unfort. in my community many Ss exper. trauma. Fortunately, we have counseling for willing families.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
A1: I feel like
@wmarkhall
raises a vital pt. Urban kids are often just chalked up to be assumed to be traumatized. (cont.)
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pgilders
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
A1: Challenge- Gaining understanding & support with behaviors from adults to provide the grace these Ss need to overcome trauma.
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
Q1: What have you found challenging about working with students who have experienced trauma?
#caedchat
AssignmentHelpN
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
#caedchat
#asiaEd
The Ultimate Compilation of 60 Ways To Use an iPad in the Classroom
https://t.co/Du9eR0MYRB
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
A1: If Ss are assumed to live with trauma, are they also assumed to have built-in coping ability?
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chaugen
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
TY Gloria! Sometimes we find the right combo of supports at the right moment. It's awesome.
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:13 PM EDT
A1: Flipping this answer. the most rewarding part has been finding the right way to connect w/ SS
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
I'd say no...I think people often assume poverty=trauma
#CAEdChat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:15 PM EDT
A1: If Ss are assumed to live with trauma, are they also assumed to have built-in coping ability?
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:16 PM EDT
A1: A person can have PTSD from simply witnessing or learning about a traumatic event happening to a loved one.
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SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:16 PM EDT
Another challenge is getting ss the help they need. Counseling has been cut drastically over the years.
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:16 PM EDT
Poverty can be one factor but is not the only cause. Ss in poverty usually have more stressors which can lead to trauma.
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:17 PM EDT
------------> Q2 is up next. Look for
@dowbiggin
.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:17 PM EDT
A1: Think about all the things our Ss may witness at home, in the neighborhood, and even at school!
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pgilders
May 7 @ 11:17 PM EDT
Insightful reflection from
@ucdjoe
in relateting to Ss coping with trauma.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:09 PM EDT
A1: Not taking the emotional outbursts or behaviors personally, de escalating myself in the moment.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
Q2: What tools are in place in your school or district for addressing the needs of children who have experienced trauma?
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
A2: We have counselors who are all MFTs. And even with our well-resourced school, we never have enough!
#caedchat
pgilders
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
It really does take time and patience to get to know these, provide the right supports & interventions.
@NowaTechie
#CAedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:10 PM EDT
A1: So many challenges. Not knowing history, knowing triggers, Outbursts, shut downs
#caedchat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
Stressors vs trauma. Returns me 2 idea that most of us just don't understand what we're dealing w. I'm 1st on that list.
#caedchat
#worktodo
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:16 PM EDT
Poverty can be one factor but is not the only cause. Ss in poverty usually have more stressors which can lead to trauma.
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
A2: Our lower school has a "toolbox" character development program that can help with communicating needs.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
I think some do but their coping strategies must change in diff situations.. What works at home may not at school
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:18 PM EDT
A2: We have well-resourced counselors like
@cjh_counselor
that try to connect Ss and families with mental health resources
#CAEdChat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: We have counseling - psychologists Has been helpful to many
#thankful
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: We are lucky to have a full time psych and counselor on staff who can support S and T.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: Primarily, Ts that build relationships w/ ss and Ps. We also have a counselor on campus that regularly talks w/ ss.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: We've been doing PD with Ts on how to navigate with Ss, also shifting to PBIS/restorative practices.
#CAEdChat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
It's overwhelming for me to think about. Imagine for them...
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: I feel like there's never enough school-based help to address all the need, anywhere. Is this true where you are?
#caedchat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: MFT, Mentor Me (
@WeAreMentorMe
) & caring adults doing their best.
#CAEdChat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: we have full time social worker at EVERY school. In addition at the middle schools we have counselors.
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: Counseling services and weekly SEL lessons help. Community building activities and knowing your SS
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:20 PM EDT
A2: Our Honor Council has moved toward restorative justice practices, moving away from strictly punitive. It's a start.
#caedchat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Never enough.
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: I feel like there's never enough school-based help to address all the need, anywhere. Is this true where you are?
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Never enough, but having navigated this with my own child I think that schools really can't provide the on-going support
#caedchat
.
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: I feel like there's never enough school-based help to address all the need, anywhere. Is this true where you are?
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melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Exactly. Resources spread very thin. 99% of the time, I am the only resource available.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
pgilders
May 7 @ 11:20 PM EDT
Maslow really did get it right.
@SLOlifeKevin
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SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:12 PM EDT
And realizing that the content you're teaching isn't the most pressing thing in their life at any given moment. Not about you.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:21 PM EDT
A2: Also, I feel our advisory program in our upper school gives Ss another "family" setting potentially for emotional support.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:21 PM EDT
A2: we have developed great partnerships with countywide mental health agencies and other community resources coordinated by us
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:22 PM EDT
A2: I think we need to make schools even safer spaces than they already are. And all Ts must realized they're crucial.
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SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:22 PM EDT
This is definitely a strong resource in our dist. We have quite a few resources; it's just making the connections w/ ss & families
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principledlady
May 7 @ 11:21 PM EDT
A2: we have developed great partnerships with countywide mental health agencies and other community resources coordinated by us
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
A2: I'd like to see more formal training for Ts and other school staff on trauma, how Ss present, and being supportive.
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
We have made this shift as well. It does require the T to be willing to accept that sometimes their behavior needs to change too.
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ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:19 PM EDT
A2: We've been doing PD with Ts on how to navigate with Ss, also shifting to PBIS/restorative practices.
#CAEdChat
pgilders
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
Staff & community all are feeling that trauma from over the years
@NowaTechie
. That adds another dimension.
#CAEdChat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:14 PM EDT
A1: unfort. in my community many Ss exper. trauma. Fortunately, we have counseling for willing families.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
A2:our middle grades all have what we call academy classes where kids learn resiliency and coping skills as well as academic shoot
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GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
A2: Realizing that it's a process and takes time. I have a SS who exp. trauma 4 years ago and we're still working on it
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:24 PM EDT
A2: I have shifted over my 25 yrs in teaching, from focus on getting stuff done to loving every child. It's hard sometimes.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:24 PM EDT
Love this idea!
#CAEdChat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
A2:our middle grades all have what we call academy classes where kids learn resiliency and coping skills as well as academic shoot
#caedchat
wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:24 PM EDT
More formal training? I can say in 25 years, I have had exactly 0.
#CAEdChat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:24 PM EDT
I didn't get help addressing the effects of my traumatic experience(s) for almost 40 years!
#caedchat
In reply to @GloCazarez
massignmenthelp
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
#caedchat
#asiaEd
Top 5 Concerns Students Have While Writing Assignments
https://t.co/QNgbrlLwjX
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A local org has done some PD based on ACES research.
#caedchat
https://t.co/uZjomAK42T
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:23 PM EDT
A2: I'd like to see more formal training for Ts and other school staff on trauma, how Ss present, and being supportive.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A2: we are beginning to train staff in restorative practices and cultural profiency.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A2: Working with staff on seeing Ss behavior as a communication tool and asking more questions rather than issuing conseq
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
Not even mandated reporter training? It's something at least.
#caedchat
In reply to @wmarkhall
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A2: Get the animals involved! There's a 🐴 camp/ therapy session for littles in my area
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
This has lots of benefits, but especially for kids who have ex. trauma.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A2: we are beginning to train staff in restorative practices and cultural profiency.
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:26 PM EDT
------------> Q3 is coming very soon. Watch for
@dowbiggin
’s tweet!
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:26 PM EDT
As
@tinabryson
taught me, chase the why.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:25 PM EDT
A2: Working with staff on seeing Ss behavior as a communication tool and asking more questions rather than issuing conseq
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:26 PM EDT
I'd love to go to that training!
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:27 PM EDT
Q3: How do you find out about specific students in your classroom who have experienced trauma?
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Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:27 PM EDT
A3: This is so tricky. Our families often don't want anyone to know. We often don't even know about learning diagnoses.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: My most common way of finding out is through my relationships with the Ss themselves. When they trust, they share.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: Relationships, relationships, relationships. Build relationships with ss. Build relationships w/ families. With the community.
#caedchat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: Elem Ss tend to be more open but certainly not all. Trauma can remain hidden but behavior/struggles provide clues
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: Definitely don't always know, but counselors, admins, and social workers, along with parents and the Ss themselves
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: Sometimes I find out (with parent permission) from the counselor. But that's rare because of privacy/secrecy.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3 First graders tell A LOT. Sometimes unbelievable amount with so many details. Not always, but many times. It's their normal
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:29 PM EDT
As a K T, I am usually the first. Many times little ones have large meltdowns; sometimes violent. My role is to build trust.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:29 PM EDT
A3: I have had custodial parent come in and share with me some things because they knew how invested I was in their kid.
#caedchat
wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:29 PM EDT
Well yeah, there is that annual PowerPoint. I assumed you meant MEANINGFUL stuff, not just dont get sued.
#CAEdChat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:29 PM EDT
Yes...behavior is often a big clue. I learn so much by watching the playground or quad at recess/break.
#caedchat
chaugen
May 7 @ 11:28 PM EDT
A3: Elem Ss tend to be more open but certainly not all. Trauma can remain hidden but behavior/struggles provide clues
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:29 PM EDT
A3: We have full time Family Liaisons they are so helpful in building relationships that lead to trust, which leads to helping
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
A3: Small community. Everyone knows everyone's business.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
A3: I wish more parents shared or allowed counselors to. I suspect we don't know most of the real histories.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
This is important. When you have that relationship, you have the access and resources to share. Teacher to ss & Ps.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
wmarkhall
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
A3. Most often it was a result of really getting to know the kids. Talking with each kid each day.
#CAEdChat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
I will say, our online mandated reporter training is a pretty decent one.
#caedchat
In reply to @wmarkhall
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
A3: few parents share. Kids talk. build trust and they open up.
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:31 PM EDT
A3: Parents/Guardians directly shared w me b4 meeting SS or SS shared w me
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:31 PM EDT
A3: Never underestimate the power of your relationships with Ss, and how much they may rely on you w/out you even realizing.
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:32 PM EDT
Amen!
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:31 PM EDT
A3: Never underestimate the power of your relationships with Ss, and how much they may rely on you w/out you even realizing.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:32 PM EDT
Especially true for older kids
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:31 PM EDT
A3: Never underestimate the power of your relationships with Ss, and how much they may rely on you w/out you even realizing.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:33 PM EDT
We have an outstanding community member (frmr P) who does this for us. So helpful when done well w/ someone who knows community
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
I will say, our online mandated reporter training is a pretty decent one.
#caedchat
In reply to @wmarkhall
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:33 PM EDT
A3: In a few cases, I have shared my own PTSD story (skimmed down) with Ss so they know that they're not alone.
#caedchat
MelissaBlakeBio
May 7 @ 11:33 PM EDT
A3
#caedchat
I ask Ss to tell me about their lives bc I write them back many open up & then we figure out how they can be successful
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:33 PM EDT
A3: Esp. helpful to Ss when I shared re: PTSD was hearing that their reactions to things are typical with trauma.
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:35 PM EDT
------------> Q4 is set. Keep watch for
@dowbiggin
.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:35 PM EDT
A3: knowing that sense of safety, ability to trust others, having emotional intimacy, etc. are affected by PTSD opened their eyes.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:36 PM EDT
Q4: What are some strategies for working with kids who’ve experienced trauma that just work well with ALL kids?
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:36 PM EDT
A4: Intentionally building relationships, spending non-academic time with your "high flyers"
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
A4:morning meetings, restorative circles
#caedchat
MelissaBlakeBio
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
Q4: listening and making sure they know they are valued & cared for
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
A4: I went to a great session on "Accountable Talk" at
#CUEBOLD
that focused on ways we can communicate safely in class.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
A4: Give ss an opportunity to tell their stories. They all have them. In a safe enviro, they will tell them. Just need the space
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
A4: home visits
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
A4: Teaching kids emotional regulation strategies, what to do when upset. Teaching Ss about their brain an emotions
#caedchat
TaraWoodall
May 7 @ 11:37 PM EDT
I'm taking this course right now. It is excellent. I hope other school districts can do something similar.
#caedchat
#muhsd
MelissaBlakeBio
May 7 @ 11:30 PM EDT
#Muhsd
has an
@MUHSDInnovatED
PD course for our Ts
@sherylgarman
@jdyra
In reply to @Dowbiggin, @MUHSDInnovatED, @sherylgarman, @jdyra
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: I try to have my office be a safe space for kids to come and just BE. Sometimes it means I learn things I wish I hadn't.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: A bit of selective ignoring in the moments when a Ss is doing something off task, but not disturbing others.
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: Journaling as needed, lunch w/ T, showing you CARE!
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
Had 2 Ps volunteer to do some mindfulness training w/ my class this year. So helpful for all of us. Gave us common language.
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: But I would rather know they have somewhere to turn.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
Remember they are kids. I try to provide time for unstructured play because many don't get that at home because so much stress
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:38 PM EDT
A4: cross grade level groups that engage in team / relationship building Keep them together for several years
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: mentorships
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: In class, when Ss have gotten testy w/ ea. other, I have talked about how it made ME feel to hear them be mean in our space.
#caedchat
MelissaBlakeBio
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: letting them know you will advocate for them when they need it
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
These are some things i try to be mindful about.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: everyone can relate to being made to feel uncomfortable. This way, I wasn't pointing fingers.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
Yes! And modeling, role-playing, practicing, doing it again and again.
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: mindfulness
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:39 PM EDT
A4: At our elem school we start the day w/ dancing...three songs, whole schools. Sets the mood and allows for destress w/ exercise
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:40 PM EDT
A4: I'm pretty liberal w/ kids being allowed to leave the room for whatever they need. It's not about me.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:41 PM EDT
A4: music education for ALL. My dream for the future. The visual and performing arts heals that which ails the spirit 🎶❤
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:41 PM EDT
A4: re: my previous tweet, it took me a long time to get to that place.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:41 PM EDT
A4: I also believe strongly in decreasing anxiety for all Ss by moving away from traditional test/quiz assessments.
#caedchat
cjh_counselor
May 7 @ 11:41 PM EDT
A4: Avoiding power struggles. Helping Ss find positive opportunities to be leaders and exercise control.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
Yes...I might need to be reminded of this on a regular basis. :-)
#caedchat
cjh_counselor
May 7 @ 11:41 PM EDT
A4: Avoiding power struggles. Helping Ss find positive opportunities to be leaders and exercise control.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
A4: When Ss come to equate whether a T likes them with their grades on tests/quizzes, it damages relationships.
#caedchat
MrKirkbride
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
A4: I agree with
@principledlady
. Music therapy is powerful. I also wish we had a therapy dog/pet.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
I had a tiny brief almost power struggle with a S I am very close with recently. Followed up asking y so salty?
#caedchat
In reply to @cjh_counselor
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
You might want to check out
@MySchoolNMotion
#caedchat
MrKirkbride
May 7 @ 11:42 PM EDT
A4: I agree with
@principledlady
. Music therapy is powerful. I also wish we had a therapy dog/pet.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:43 PM EDT
A4: I find that using
@RemindHQ
to communicate w/ Ss after we've had a situation helps ensure they know I still love them.
#caedchat
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:44 PM EDT
------------> Q5 is up next. Look for
@dowbiggin
’s tweet!
#caedchat
cjh_counselor
May 7 @ 11:44 PM EDT
Humor and other distractors are great tools for breaking those power struggles. :-) That's why
#relationship
is so important!
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:44 PM EDT
I like to throw out a meme or something light to them so we can all have a laugh and use it as a bridge to move forward.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin, @RemindHQ
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:45 PM EDT
Q5: What do you wish you knew earlier in your career about working with students who have experienced trauma?
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:45 PM EDT
A5: First and foremost, I wish I had known that I have been living w/PTSD for half my life. Trauma Ed. classes and CPT helped!
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:45 PM EDT
A5: Everything...haha. 1. Neg behavior is not about me. 2. Mindfulness and descalation strategies.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:46 PM EDT
A5: I also wish I had known that a S's emotional state comes first, over everything else. Maslow was no dummy.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had read this book. When I read it lI felt like it was the mystery decoder ring
https://t.co/N31lCfhP2e
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had had the confidence to stand up to authority that focused more on achievement than well-being. (in past jobs)
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: That I'm not expected to have all the answers. I may not see the results of my efforts but it doesn't mean they didn't count
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: The different ways trauma can present. I have
#TeacherGuilt
about how not knowing ss who were prob. exp. trauma.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5 All the answers, which is what I need from y'all tonight. Ha. I've got a packed class this year.. so many needs and situations
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had known about mine earlier as well. Several rounds of therapy helped. ID triggers, how to cope
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:45 PM EDT
A5: First and foremost, I wish I had known that I have been living w/PTSD for half my life. Trauma Ed. classes and CPT helped!
#caedchat
GloCazarez
May 7 @ 11:48 PM EDT
A5: A collection of resources for SS and families. I wish I'd reached out to the school and community for help.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:48 PM EDT
A5: Yes! And stood up against zero tolerance policies.
#CAEdChat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had had the confidence to stand up to authority that focused more on achievement than well-being. (in past jobs)
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:48 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had known that coming off as tough & strict wasn't helping my Ss who couldn't relate to that or were triggered by it
#caedchat
MrKirkbride
May 7 @ 11:48 PM EDT
A5: Be more like Jean Valjean and less like Javert.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:49 PM EDT
Ordering. :)
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had read this book. When I read it lI felt like it was the mystery decoder ring
https://t.co/N31lCfhP2e
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:49 PM EDT
I think we all do.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:47 PM EDT
A5: The different ways trauma can present. I have
#TeacherGuilt
about how not knowing ss who were prob. exp. trauma.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:49 PM EDT
A5: I have found that by being vulnerable and open in front of Ss, they gain much more respect for me.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:50 PM EDT
Oh my gosh. More
#TeacherGuilt
- This was me. So glad I've been allowed to grow as an educator.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:48 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had known that coming off as tough & strict wasn't helping my Ss who couldn't relate to that or were triggered by it
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:50 PM EDT
A5: Oversimplified a ton, but often trauma/PTSD presents in males as anger/aggressiveness and females as timidity/fear.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:50 PM EDT
A5: "Don't let them see you smile until after Christmas." Worst advice ever from a veteran teacher my first year
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:51 PM EDT
A5: re: those symptoms, especially when they occur without an identifiable cause....
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:52 PM EDT
We can't let the guilt take over. There's plenty I can feel guilty over if I let myself. As T, parent, etc.
#caedchat
In reply to @SLOlifeKevin
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:52 PM EDT
Frustrating, still need to. Tests, achievement..Back to Maslow. If their emotional needs aren't met, they just can't.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
CAedchat
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
------------> Prepare for Q6 from
@dowbiggin
.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
Now, I speak up. The problem isn't gone, but my response to it has changed.
#caedchat
In reply to @melissa1franke
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
A5: I wish I had known that it is ok to be vulnerable.
#caedchat
NowaTechie
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
It's what we do with that guilt. Wallow in it or learn from it. Choose to learn and be better.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:52 PM EDT
We can't let the guilt take over. There's plenty I can feel guilty over if I let myself. As T, parent, etc.
#caedchat
In reply to @SLOlifeKevin
cjh_counselor
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
A5: The science behind trauma & impact on brain development. So crucial in understanding the connection between behavior & trauma
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
Q6: What resources would you suggest for educators to learn more?
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
Haha...exactly. Now I am like the Walmart greeter of school.
#caedchat
.
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:53 PM EDT
#caedchat
In reply to @ucdjoe
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
A6: I actually sought out my therapist for some resources, since she worked with me on the PTSD.
#caedchat
SLOlifeKevin
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
@Dowbiggin
For sure. To learn, we've got to make some mistakes. I've made plenty. But hope I keep striving for better.
#caedchat
In reply to @NowaTechie, @Dowbiggin
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
A5 I speak up all the time and do what I think is right. Sometimes very uncomfortable b/c some other Ts/Ps focused on acadm along.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
A6: Love, love, love this book from ASCD I think gives teachers a language and starting place.
https://t.co/N31lCfhP2e
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:54 PM EDT
A6: Here is a resource:
https://t.co/bN8NQEJ9ES
(childhood trauma) -- also in doc of tonight's Qs.
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:55 PM EDT
Me too. I was the quiet one who hoped no one would would "see" me and my hurt.
#caedchat
In reply to @MarisaG155
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:55 PM EDT
A6: Here is another:
https://t.co/G6mZgvBzJz
-- also in doc of tonight's Qs.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:55 PM EDT
Ordering the book Joe suggested! Happy to have other recommendations!
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:55 PM EDT
A6: Here is another:
https://t.co/EQQa29a21L
(not child focused) -- also in doc of tonight's Qs.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:56 PM EDT
A6: Another gr8 res. Technically for Ps, but works very well for Ts too. Saved us when we adopted our son
https://t.co/1aGTMLeZYL
#caedchat
LWMrsParker
May 7 @ 11:56 PM EDT
We have to advocate for our children. Sometimes, others may not agree but that is ok.
#caedchat
In reply to @melissa1franke
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:56 PM EDT
A6: There is a free webcourse on that site.
#caedchat
ucdjoe
May 7 @ 11:56 PM EDT
A6: Another gr8 res. Technically for Ps, but works very well for Ts too. Saved us when we adopted our son
https://t.co/1aGTMLeZYL
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:56 PM EDT
People who know me now would never believe I was a very quiet, exceedingly well-behaved child in school.
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:57 PM EDT
Part of the reason I faded into the background was because I was a fearful child. As an adult, I got better at masking it.
#caedchat
melissa1franke
May 7 @ 11:57 PM EDT
A6 Some Ts I work with aren't tuned in to trauma & it's results. I feel much better chatting with you all! & I'm getting the book.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:58 PM EDT
A6: great organization
@nami
#caedchat
cjh_counselor
May 7 @ 11:58 PM EDT
A5: Fostering Resilient Learners by Souers & Hall, Conscious Discipline by Bailey, The Body Keeps Score by Van Der Kolk M.D.
#caedchat
In reply to @Dowbiggin
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:59 PM EDT
Most people think PTSD is all about military veterans. That's a small %age. But the VA has done the work and has great resources.
#caedchat
principledlady
May 7 @ 11:59 PM EDT
A6: I meant to tweet
@NAMICommunicate
as the resource
#caedchat
Dowbiggin
- Moderator
May 7 @ 11:59 PM EDT
The body absolutely keeps score. This is why I have fibromyalgia.
#caedchat
In reply to @cjh_counselor