#PatinsIcam Archive

A weekly half hour chat focused on improving access to education for PK-12 students through the use of Accessible Educational Materials (AEM), Universal Design for Learning (UDL), and Assistive Technology (AT).

Tuesday November 6, 2018
8:30 PM EST

  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Welcome to tonight's chat! We are so glad you are here on this election night!! IN educator? PGP cert link will be tweeted at the end! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Tonight we're chatting UDL in the Life Skills Classroom! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Who's here and ready to chit chat tonight? Please introduce yourself. Don't forget to include #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Sandi Smith, Accessible Content Authoring, Chrome Accessibility & Integration, SLD & Transition: Secondary Age Specialist. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I'm Jena Fahlbush, PATINS Specialist and I'll be happy host tonight! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hi Everyone! Rachel Herron here from the PATINS Project! Looking forward to tackling this very important topic! #PatinsIcam
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Barb, from Ohio, hello all!!#PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Good Evening All, Katie's Here! (Deaf/Hard of Hearing PATINS Specialist) AND I'm ready to Taco 'Bout UDL in Life Skills settings! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hi, Jessica, SLP and PATINS specialist, tweeting from the far north of Indiana tonight in lovely Kendallville! #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Sandy Stabenfeldt - ICAM Digital Services Specialist Hello everyone! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hi Barb! Welcome to the chat! So glad you could join us tonight! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hi Barb! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hey Barb! Glad you're joining us tonight. A few of us will be crossing the border to attend #OCALICON next week! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Hello #PatinsIcam chatters! Kelli, PATINS Specialist of ASD, SLD, Chrome Accessibility, AEM & AT...I think I need more acronyms.
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
    We will post questions as Q1, Q2, etc. Please tweet your response with A1, A2, etc. Don't forget to add the hashtag to each tweet! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I will be there! Looking forward to it! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush, @BGentilleGreen
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Oh my....THE @BGentilleGreen is in the house! #PatinsIcam I'm on the #OCALICON2018 bus also! Can't wait!
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Let's giddyup & get this thing rolling! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Q1: Can students in life skills classrooms benefit from UDL? #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A1: Absolutely! That is the beauty of UDL, its for ALL students! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: Of course they can! We all can!! I find myself wanting more #UDL in lots of places in my personal and professional lives! #PatinsIcam
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: oh yes, absolutely! Every learner can become an expert learner! #udl for all! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A1: Absolutely! The purpose of UDL is to make sure that ALL students are able to access materials in the way that works best for them! This framework was created for diverse students! #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A1: Of course, everyone benefits from UDL! #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A1: Only if we want them to be engaged and involved! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Q2: What is your response when told UDL is not for the Life Skills population? #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Once you start... you can't stop! #patinsicam #UDL4LIFE
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A1: ALL means ALL...#UDL IS the benefit for all students and teachers #PatinsIcam Preplanning for barriers & kick forwarding successes in a way that is student centered and meaningful.
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Agreed 100%. Would LOVE that. #PatinsIcam I'm in!
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:38 PM EST
    No joke! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @katietaylorIN
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A2: "Help me understand your reasoning for this! How can we marginalize any student and rob them of the power of #udl??" #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    I think this could be the answer for Q2, too! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A2: all students benefit from multiple and flexible ways to engage, to see content represented, and show what they know. The UDL framework only shows how much work teachers do to support learners w/ complex needs, gives us even more ideas #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Q3: What is "Presumed Competency" and how does it apply to UDL in the classroom? #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A2: I would be a little confused... It's UDL based on breaking down barriers for ALL students? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A2: "lets consider this through a different lens" or something to that nature. Some educators have separated students so far that even attempting to include all seems daunting. It can and will be done! #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A2: Is @PATINSSandi going to write a response that lets her keep her job? Yes. I would ask to model a lesson with the students and let their reactions answer for me. #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A2: My response: [GIF: lady looking confused] #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
    I am glad you brought up marginalization...SO many students are neglected if we shoot for the traditional child only. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
    So true! Average does not exist! #PatinsIcam
    • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:41 PM EST
      I am glad you brought up marginalization...SO many students are neglected if we shoot for the traditional child only. #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3: ALL kids have the right to show what they know, so together (T & S) must work together to figure out the best ways to do so! #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3: it's about presuming that all students deserve access, that I will never know how much you'll learn unless I give you the chance. UDL gives us a framework to provide an equitable chance #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A2: Take those moments for conversations to facilitate the meaning of access for all. What you don't know, you don't know. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Q4: Which of the three UDL principles would be the easiest to begin using in the classroom? Why? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A3: Presumed Competency is the assumption that ALL students have the ability to think, learn and understand...even if it is sometimes hard to see proof of the actions. Always viewing students in this valuable way helps seal success! #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A4: Representation, finding different ways to represent the material. I feel this is something that is already done beautifully in this setting. #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A3: Assuming that all students can and will learn when given an equitable/accessible opportunity. That is what UDL is all about. Making sure that all possible students can learn with each other. #PatinsIcam
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
    A4: I don't know that I have to choose just one at a time, but there is some wisdom in "if we don't have engagement, we don't have anything" #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Nov 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A2: This would provide a great learning opportunity! #PatinsIcam
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A3: Presuming competence assures that every student has the opportunity for high expectations. It's the least dangerous assumption, can do no harm and can open doors, just like #udl! #PatinsIcam
  • asheetsroom14 Nov 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A3 Assuming that everyone has the ability to learn with instruction designed so that ALL students have the access to be able to participate, grow, and show what they know #patinsicam #patinsicam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A4: I would choose action and expression. There are so many different ways to find out if a student has learned the content. Multiple choice tests are just the easiest to grade. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
    Absolutely how I was viewing this questions. I agree...if you are able to engage all students you are most of the way there! #PatinsIcam
    • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:44 PM EST
      A4: I don't know that I have to choose just one at a time, but there is some wisdom in "if we don't have engagement, we don't have anything" #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A4: That's a tough question because #UDL allows fluid teaching with good preplanning, making it all connect. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Hi Angie! Oh it makes my night that you are here! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @asheetsroom14
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Hey hey @asheetsroom14! Happy to have you around tonight! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A4: Not sure it's the easiest but I love the challenge of figuring out how to engage all kinds of students! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Q5: Would incorporating UDL in the life skills classroom be beneficial for the student? Why? #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
    I feel that engagement is one of the most difficult principles for teachers. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: I feel like any time UDL is implemented it benefits ALL students no matter the setting. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
    I think we already answered Q5.. Moving on :) #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Q6: Could successful implementation of UDL in a life skills room potentially lead to the student spending more time in an LRE environment? #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
    I'm with you here. Engagement HAS to be there with meaning and purpose. Let's begin with relationship building & knowing your students as who they are and how they learn best. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @jlfahlbush
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:49 PM EST
    This is my kind of challenge :) #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding, @jconradslp
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
    I agree! It's easy to think it's about entertainment and hard if staff struggle with the work of creating relationships with complex learners, but it is most often the thing that will move the needle on outcomes longterm #PatinsIcam
    • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:48 PM EST
      I feel that engagement is one of the most difficult principles for teachers. #PatinsIcam
      In reply to @jconradslp
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A6: Yes! The beauty of this is that UDL levels the playing field and suddenly creates classrooms that are not "off limits" to students! #PatinsIcam
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A6: Absolutely! seemlessly intergrate all students in the classroom. I see UDL as blurring the lines of special education and general education allowing all students to learn in the same classroom. #patinsicam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6: Absolutely. The less we have to do for our Ss, the better. Empowering students with independence by appropriate accommodations and a mode of communication #PatinsIcam COMMUNICATION is a MUST.
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6: While it may or may not lead to a different setting, it will open doors to greater learning opportunities and higher levels of comprehension for the student. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6: I definitely think so, #UDL can unlock so many hidden potentials which can boost confidence and increase growth in a variety of ways! If all teachers were implementing UDL well, one could argue that life skills classroom are no longer necessary #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Q7: Give an example of how to provide multiple means of representation in the life skills classroom. #PatinsIcam
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6: love this question! I think it could lead to less restrictive placements as Ss get the opportunity to learn in a way that makes sense for them, we can see potential that may have been hidden! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Good Call! Figuring out the communication piece can be the greatest challenge AND the greatest reward! #PatinsICam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A7: written book, audio book, video, interactive ebook, acting out the book with peers #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Exactly what I was trying to say, only better! #PatinsIcam
    • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:53 PM EST
      A6: love this question! I think it could lead to less restrictive placements as Ss get the opportunity to learn in a way that makes sense for them, we can see potential that may have been hidden! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Yes...the hidden student! Over all of my years of teaching some of the hidden kids I did not find still haunt me! Being able to learn and DO something about it is a huge part of teaching! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A7: What @katietaylorIN said! #PatinsIcam
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
    My dream! No more "different" education, just high quality education for all!! #udl #PatinsIcam
    • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:51 PM EST
      A6: Absolutely! seemlessly intergrate all students in the classroom. I see UDL as blurring the lines of special education and general education allowing all students to learn in the same classroom. #patinsicam
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A7: sign language, AAC, speech, learning and representing student's idiosyncratic communication and gestures, tactile symbols, lots and lots and lots of visuals. All of these also great for any classroom! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A7: I think this question begs another - would multiple means of representation in a life skills classroom really differ from multiple means in a gen ed or other classroom? #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Well said. Sometimes the barrier is just not HIGH EXPECTATIONS. Having high expectations in itself can take the shadow off of those "hidden potentials." We owe it to our Ss to look for them, find and then celebrate them. #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • BGentilleGreen Nov 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Whew, this is a fast chat, having trouble keeping up with all your brilliance!!!#PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Q8/9: Give an example of how to provide multiple means of engagement and/or expression in the life skills classroom. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Back at you! #patinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A8: creating a song, speech to text, text to speech, drawing a picture, oral express, using AAC or switches, eye gaze #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
    It flies by with nearly 10 questions in 30 minutes! You are doing a wonderful job! Don't feel pressured; just go at your own pace :) #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
    [GIF: man celebrating with arm up and down] #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BGentilleGreen
  • PATINSSandi Nov 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A good question, depending on the range of students, I would think while the opportunities would be similar, the multiple representations might be even more challenging and more multiple! #PatinsIcam
    • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:55 PM EST
      A7: I think this question begs another - would multiple means of representation in a life skills classroom really differ from multiple means in a gen ed or other classroom? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Nov 6 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Wow! I feel like you hit so many of the "big dogs" ! Nice! #PatinsIcam
    • katietaylorIN Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM EST
      A8: creating a song, speech to text, text to speech, drawing a picture, oral express, using AAC or switches, eye gaze #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Nov 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Now THIS would be such an awesome opportunity to be able to showcase @asheetsroom14 classroom. #PatinsIcam ...not even kidding.
    In reply to @jlfahlbush, @asheetsroom14
  • jconradslp Nov 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Q9: providing visuals for goals progress and goal setting, providing lots of different ways and means to take a test. Again... just as all students need! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Nov 6 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Q10: Who's coming to Access to Education 2018 on November 28 and 29 in Indianapolis?! Get registered friends: https://t.co/rdMRPLR8jd #PatinsIcam