#HipHopEd Archive

#HipHopEd Chat is a weekly cyber cypher (chat) where stakeholders within Hip-Hop and Education come together to discuss issues that impact the youth and adults within our local, national and global communities. #HipHopEd Chat is a virtual form of professional development for Educators, workshop for Parents and other Adults and a brainstorming session of Hip-Hop practitioners. Our #HipHopEd chats are every Tuesday from 9-10 EST. on Twitter.

Tuesday July 3, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we will be discussing "Independent Learning" and the role that it can and should play in how we teach and learn from one another and with our students
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    For everyone who is traveling and or will be traveling tomorrow please be safe and enjoy your time with family and friends #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    On with the #HipHopEd fam for the next hour discussing independent learning!
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Discussion for the next hour in independent learning! #HipHopEd @AncrumSara
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    We purposely wanted to make a play on "Independence Day" by focusing on Independent learning as a matter of excelling or surviving #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Here is a basic definition of Independent Learning Independent learning is when an individual is able to think, act and pursue their own studies autonomously, without the same levels of support you receive from a teacher at school. #HipHopEd
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Hi everyone. Former homeschooling mom. Current school board member. Constant learner. Looking forward to the discussion. #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Guiding Students to Be Independent Learners https://t.co/cJCpsLDO9G #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd and you can chime in on the topic throughout the chat. We don't have a Q&A format
    • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:06 PM EDT
      Hi everyone. Former homeschooling mom. Current school board member. Constant learner. Looking forward to the discussion. #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Jul 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd Been re-reading story of Mis-Education of Lauren Hill...wonderful example of independence.
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Teachers should themselves be Independent Learners, we have to model and explore the things we are asking students to do. #HipHopEd
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Independent learning works best when a student wants to find an answer to a question.#HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    In the spirit of “Independent Learning” what are your thoughts to this story of a school separating students by race? #HipHopEd Yes it’s 2018 https://t.co/GH2hN29zQh
  • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Been interesting to view how perceptions of being a "class" impact pedagogy. I've witnessed teachers interact differently during robotics "class" vs after school. Same material, different approach #hiphoped #independentlearning
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    The struggle with independent learning is that most students have been locked into call and response learning. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    It is key to reevaluate what many consider "learning", in many neighborhoods, independent learning is key to surviving and navigating the block #HipHopEd
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I am at PBL school and the 11th & 12th graders struggle with it. The middle school students have it mastered. All they know. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Interesting perspective because words can hold such powerful connotations. You could have the program in the same space but different times of the day and see two distinct environments #HipHopEd
    • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      Been interesting to view how perceptions of being a "class" impact pedagogy. I've witnessed teachers interact differently during robotics "class" vs after school. Same material, different approach #hiphoped #independentlearning
  • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Peace & love the the good folks of the #hiphoped universe..
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
      Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we will be discussing "Independent Learning" and the role that it can and should play in how we teach and learn from one another and with our students
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Segregate students? Why? Every topic lends itself to diversity. If the topic is music and the goal a paper, each student connects to the topic with a question. The answer to the question is the paper. #HipHopEd
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    7th grader @RaleighShaw2 came to me with an idea for a song. He was inspired by Dr. King and wanted to share his dream. I thought this would fit well with tonight's #HipHopEd topic. 1/2
  • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    What is the role of #teachered programs in supporting teachers' exploration of #independentlearning? It's risky to try out something "new." More models of what this might look like in a classroom are needed for Ts. #hiphoped
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    7th grader @RaleighShaw2 came to me with an idea for a song. He was inspired by Dr. King and wanted to share his dream. I thought this would fit well with tonight's #HipHopEd topic. 2/2
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Sometimes the biggest obstacle to independent learning is to break free from the dependency that learning has been presented to students all of their lives #HipHopEd
    • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      I am at PBL school and the 11th & 12th graders struggle with it. The middle school students have it mastered. All they know. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Peace brother and I need to check out and get down with one of your podcasts #HipHopEd
    • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      Peace & love the the good folks of the #hiphoped universe..
      • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
        Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we will be discussing "Independent Learning" and the role that it can and should play in how we teach and learn from one another and with our students
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I find different ways to learn and explore hip-hop connections to math - through texts, music, or talking to artists about their craft. Studying my own process for learning independently gives me insight into how I might guide students to do the same thing #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ladyakery
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    We define learning too narrowly; just like reading. A child reads a cereal box and we discount it. A child learns something, anywhere but school, and its not learning. #HipHopEd
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Independent learning can occur when students act on issues or problems within their community, and propose solutions to them. Students will benefit from the solutions. #HipHopEd
  • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    I produce @usnewsbeat, a social justice oriented podcast mixing REAL journalism w/music & original hip-hop lyrics by indie rap artists. Several educators have included certain eps as part of their curriculum and/or independent study. We're hoping it becomes a thing. #hiphoped
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    teachers struggle with letting go of control also. Independent means, can i trust them? #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Learning has been used to oppress and maintain a hierarchy of false status that “Independent Learning” becoming fully acknowledge and appreciated promotes an equality that would dismantle the systems that oppress #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd Resource
    • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      I produce @usnewsbeat, a social justice oriented podcast mixing REAL journalism w/music & original hip-hop lyrics by indie rap artists. Several educators have included certain eps as part of their curriculum and/or independent study. We're hoping it becomes a thing. #hiphoped
  • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Peace brother, I definitely see you! Got @USNewsBeat which you'll LOVE, and @HipHopCanSaveUS, which I need to get you on! Link soon, appreciate the interest and support! #hiphoped
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      Peace brother and I need to check out and get down with one of your podcasts #HipHopEd
      • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:12 PM EDT
        Peace & love the the good folks of the #hiphoped universe..
        • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:01 PM EDT
          Welcome 2 #HipHopEd tonight we will be discussing "Independent Learning" and the role that it can and should play in how we teach and learn from one another and with our students
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Never stopped to think about it that way . . . but religions do this all the time. #HipHopEd
    • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      Learning has been used to oppress and maintain a hierarchy of false status that “Independent Learning” becoming fully acknowledge and appreciated promotes an equality that would dismantle the systems that oppress #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Independent is a relinquishing of a teacher's power and if their sense of worth as a teacher is in their power and not their knowledge then the saga continues #HipHopEd
    • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:16 PM EDT
      teachers struggle with letting go of control also. Independent means, can i trust them? #HipHopEd
  • AncrumSara Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Sara here from Charleston, SC. Independent learning =genius hour. Ss conduct their own research and decide how to demonstrate. @ladyakery #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    The best educators have done the work to know themselves. You are the best subject you can study #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Definitely need to prepare and support teachers for this. I think part of the process would be teaching teachers how to independent learners and having them guide students through independent learning tasks during their field experiences. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DocChrisWright
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      And that's exactly what our first graduating class stated, rather vigorously. It was a struggle.
  • HipHopAdvocacy Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    After tonight's #HipHopEd chat, we talk with @kevinkos81 about the importance of hip-hop archiving in academic settings - Live on @BondfireRadio https://t.co/RgtAcvOpFe - Replays/info/subscribe on @HipHopAdvocacy https://t.co/Dc1h1xFuGh #hiphopadvocacy
  • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Yes!! And I would I would add that administrations, schools, & high-stakes testing have made it even more difficult for teachers to "trust" & relinquish "control." #hiphoped #independentlearning
    In reply to @KamauKuumba
  • gabi_giles Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    That is an awesome point to make! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KamauKuumba
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    I think it is imperative that teacher ought to model independent learning. This is "small c" curriculum stuff but without it the big C curriculum is lost #hiphoped
  • PresidentPat Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Working on this. #hiphoped
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A Chat is an example of Independent Learning that is now being recognized in spaces that it wasn’t previously and sheds light on the brilliance of people who exist outside the margins #HipHopEd
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Independent learning, unfortunately, doesn't lead to a recognized credential. Homeschoolers struggle with that. How does one learn independently and succeed without a diploma? #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      It's the difference between asking the right questions and giving the right answers. Good Ts encourage independent learning by asking questions and valuing S's answers.
      In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Yes, for fear of them not knowing exactly what they should/need to know for a test with results that reflect on my quality as an educator #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DocChrisWright, @KamauKuumba
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Keep working, I feel like this is a never-ending process #HIPHOPED
    In reply to @PresidentPat
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Can independent learning be repackaged as “transcendent learning”? Learning that transcends the boundaries of the physical classroom. The “independent” phrasing does not fully recognize the opportunity to learn outside the walls of the school. #HipHopEd
  • sbaumgartner94 Jul 3 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    In general terms of knowing self, I've made the biggest strides looking well beyond myself to do so. Extension & getting nervously unsure. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Have read about people like @leobabauta exploring this through #unschooling #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara, @leobabauta
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    and this is what we must model: not just a passion for learning + asking questions, but a keen awareness of self + self’s needs, capacities, struggles, and questions at any time. independent learning requires precise pursuit of identity consciousness. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Can you explain more... #HipHopEd
    In reply to @Hokiesambo
  • AncrumSara Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Ts need more support from admin, mentor teachers to experiment. Failure can breed success if the right cushion is there. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @DocChrisWright
  • traviszinnel Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    This needs to change white folks. I am guilty of this, but if we don’t address the others, there is no teaching. #HipHopEd
    • DrVEvansWinters Jun 29 @ 11:57 AM EDT
      White middle class educators be like, “let’s focus on teaching.” Educators of color be like, “Focusing on racism, classism, segregation, state sanctioned violence, poverty and welfare reform is focusing on teaching.” Different realities. Different ideas of teaching. #EduColor
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    I watch the new teachers and after 2 months you can see the doubt creeping in. #PBL #independentLearning #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Welcome 2 #HipHopEd and we look forward to your continued participation
    • AncrumSara Jul 3 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      Sara here from Charleston, SC. Independent learning =genius hour. Ss conduct their own research and decide how to demonstrate. @ladyakery #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    My latest thoughts penned out. Teaching should always be a reflective process. That is what i did one midnight in Brooklyn #hipHopEd https://t.co/rcfrvQzdF1
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    One of the best examples of independent learning that can be exhibited by a teacher is the value they place of the knowledge brought into the classroom by the students from outside #HipHopEd
  • keasy773 Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Def more listening to learners than "teaching" them...more so them teaching you and as an educator being able to reflect together for collective growth #hiphoped
    • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM EDT
      #HipHopEd
      • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:20 PM EDT
        It's the difference between asking the right questions and giving the right answers. Good Ts encourage independent learning by asking questions and valuing S's answers.
        In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I love this diversity in my day. Every class is a different environment; a different puzzle to solve to deliver the best space for learning. One of the many thrills of teaching is figuring out how students in a particular class love learning best! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    You described me this past year; first year T. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KamauKuumba
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Pejoratives aren't necessary. Students need to know how to find answers to questions. The process and analysis doesn't change; just the questions. Today: How do I tie my shoe? Tomorrow: Should I buy a new car? #HipHopEd
    • traviszinnel Jul 3 @ 9:23 PM EDT
      This needs to change white folks. I am guilty of this, but if we don’t address the others, there is no teaching. #HipHopEd
      • DrVEvansWinters Jun 29 @ 11:57 AM EDT
        White middle class educators be like, “let’s focus on teaching.” Educators of color be like, “Focusing on racism, classism, segregation, state sanctioned violence, poverty and welfare reform is focusing on teaching.” Different realities. Different ideas of teaching. #EduColor
  • gabi_giles Jul 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Hello Twitter! My first tweet. #HipHopEd #Edchat #2ndchat
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I remember talking about a crime that had happened and my Ss saying, “That’s not the whole story.” Love that they could blow the news wide open. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    We have to break down the notion of "Learning" as only being an academic graded phenomenon and present it as a component of living #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I have discussed with artists how they write lyrics. They play around with words, they might have a dictionary or thesaurus out, they are independently learning because it is something of interest to them, teachers need to capitalize on this knowledge #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • NatalieCrue Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Some of these Schools (esp here in N. Cali) are attempting to rationalize this by telling parents that their kids are participating in classes w/ Ss in similar "ethnic" grps so Ss can "share experiences". An admin colleague also said something similar last week🤦🏾‍♀️ #HipHopEd
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:25 PM EDT
      I think independent, while an empowering word, might be confusing in education circles. Some folks might see independent as students working on their own at their seats. Transcendent learning automatically suggests going into other environments to learn.
      In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Welcome to twitter and to #HipHopEd we are honored to be the recipient of your first tweet. We are discussing independent learning so just chime in and share your thoughts
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Exactly. But, that means changing institutions. I read the other day that the resume is dying. Good! At my age, I can't list all the things I have done. But I have skill sets. #HipHopEd
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      We have to break down the notion of "Learning" as only being an academic graded phenomenon and present it as a component of living #HipHopEd
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    God, if I could like this a thousand times, I would! I talked to a PO of one of my students this year who was griping about my student’s reading of certain books while in lockup that were not “scholarly enough.” My response: our guy is choosing to read! Beautiful! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd great observation
    • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      I have discussed with artists how they write lyrics. They play around with words, they might have a dictionary or thesaurus out, they are independently learning because it is something of interest to them, teachers need to capitalize on this knowledge #HipHopEd
      In reply to @tdj6899
  • MrMiller2019 Jul 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    As a pre-service teacher, I hope to teach students how to self-reflect on their learning goals and then how to self-assess their progress. Independent learning can't be achieved without students holding themselves accountable to a growth mindset. #HipHopED
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    I agree with you, writing a resume is like being asked to show that you graduated high school even though you've finished college :) #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      it’s gotta be like: there is no outside. Ss bring their worlds with them into the classroom, blurring the lines. if Ts learn to validate all learning, there’s more patterns (data) to pull from + support Ss learning of content.
      In reply to @tdj6899
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Status quo panics when students question the system; hence critical thinking is not encouraged in public education. This is disgusting and we need educators to counter this and bring independent, free-thinking pedagogy to the classroom every day! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    In the classroom, we need to allow students the space to ask questions that interest them and guide them to making connections to the content. It is essential here for teachers to have deep content knowledge. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I like it. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @Hokiesambo
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    I think this works when a student has a passion for the topic. And accountability shouldn't necessarily be internal, but rather displayed in the quality of their work. #HipHopEd
    • MrMiller2019 Jul 3 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      As a pre-service teacher, I hope to teach students how to self-reflect on their learning goals and then how to self-assess their progress. Independent learning can't be achieved without students holding themselves accountable to a growth mindset. #HipHopED
  • HipHopAdvocacy Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    This is such a simple, but underrated statement. It's simply illogical to think otherwise... Value your students. Any grownup today who had a teacher like that, can remember their name and exactly how they helped make them who they are #hiphoped
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      One of the best examples of independent learning that can be exhibited by a teacher is the value they place of the knowledge brought into the classroom by the students from outside #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Language is such a powerful weapon because it is often used to attack being masked in peace #HipHopEd
    • NatalieCrue Jul 3 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      Some of these Schools (esp here in N. Cali) are attempting to rationalize this by telling parents that their kids are participating in classes w/ Ss in similar "ethnic" grps so Ss can "share experiences". An admin colleague also said something similar last week🤦🏾‍♀️ #HipHopEd
  • AncrumSara Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Colleges and bosses want people who can work to solve problems, produce results. #4cs #criticalthinking #communication #collaboration #creativity these skills are developed when Ss are given an opportunity to showcase their learning #HipHopEd
  • DASears Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
  • MsRauchScience Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    The #HipHopEd conversation is 🔥🔥 tonight! Love this chat...
    • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      One of the best examples of independent learning that can be exhibited by a teacher is the value they place of the knowledge brought into the classroom by the students from outside #HipHopEd
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    When @chrisemdin describes coteaching in his book, we see the transcendent nature of learning and having multiple ways of learning and probing content. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Thank you for the love and for your participation #HipHopEd
    • MsRauchScience Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      The #HipHopEd conversation is 🔥🔥 tonight! Love this chat...
      • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:24 PM EDT
        One of the best examples of independent learning that can be exhibited by a teacher is the value they place of the knowledge brought into the classroom by the students from outside #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Yes, Marti! Absolutely agree with the first part. However, I am not sure that it is essential for teachers to know everything. Co-learning is also important in the classroom #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mathsmarti
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    I wish I could remember the schools I visited in #Seattle that was tinkering with independent learning. #HipHopEd
  • ThinkPanoramic Jul 3 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Yes! And this was sent to me today... thought it was applicable for tonight (and really actually applicable to HHE in general)... #HipHopEd #theWork #HeartWork
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    I’d add that it’s potentially more important for Ts to have deep student knowledge. can’t light a pathway back to content w/o embracing the student beyond the question. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mathsmarti
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    The fact that Hip-Hop is viewed as content knowledge worthy of study is a testament to the genius of those independent learners who school purposely forgot #HipHopEd
  • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Maybe not necessary to say, but let's also be specific about the where we are not seeing #independentlearning & the typical demographics of the students. I have seen implemented in some places, just not where I'd like to see it. #hiphoped
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Couldn’t agree more! Deep content knowledge + inquiry-based pedagogy = thrilling learning opportunities. And if a teacher doesn’t know something? A phenomenal team bu oding opportunity for the class as a whole! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mathsmarti
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd Motivation
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    I would love to watch @chrisemdin in action. As I read the book, I tried to envision the learning. I think about it when I watch my pastor preach on Sunday. Active learning is always the best. Engagement. #HipHopEd
    • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      When @chrisemdin describes coteaching in his book, we see the transcendent nature of learning and having multiple ways of learning and probing content. #HipHopEd
  • MannyFaces Jul 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    90% of my success was thx to independent learning. Some (me) say I'm smart... but school wasn't for me.. I lived in the library, reading on my own.. Dad was a professor. But how do kids who have none of those influences find same indie learning? Hip-hop can be a conduit #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Until you see the brother in person you can pull @chrisemdin on You Tube and go to church #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara, @chrisemdin, @chrisemdin
  • NatalieCrue Jul 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Crowdsource knowledge in AND outside of the classroom. A LOT of groundbreaking #HipHopEd work is occuring outside of trad education spaces and it's happening across the globe. Connect, learn, share best practices (w/ Ss too!), SPARK their curiosity + harness Ss energies
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Yes. Deep student knowledge will always outweigh deep content knowledge #HipHopEd
    • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
      I’d add that it’s potentially more important for Ts to have deep student knowledge. can’t light a pathway back to content w/o embracing the student beyond the question. #HipHopEd
      In reply to @mathsmarti
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    This is what we are trying to accomplish with the Hip Hop Empower Hour... #HipHopEd
    • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
      The fact that Hip-Hop is viewed as content knowledge worthy of study is a testament to the genius of those independent learners who school purposely forgot #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I would say that teachers definitely need to know what resources to utilize. In math it can be difficult to make real world connections when there is only a surface level knowledge since math is often seen as just procedural. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Good point. I remember starting my day as a student teacher making ditto worksheets. Hundreds of them. Busy work at its best. No engagement; bored students; frustrated student teacher! #HipHopEd
    • DocChrisWright Jul 3 @ 9:34 PM EDT
      Maybe not necessary to say, but let's also be specific about the where we are not seeing #independentlearning & the typical demographics of the students. I have seen implemented in some places, just not where I'd like to see it. #hiphoped
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Yes, a thousand times yes! This is why we as teachers must spend ample time getting to know who our kids are as human beings. Lessons can always tie back to the life experiences of our kids, and relationships with them are the most important tool for classroom culture! #hiphoped
    In reply to @oliverskrewe, @mathsmarti
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I hold dearly the words of @gjladson who categorized my as an "Organic Scholar," Independent Learner has allowed me to flourish in an industry that I have no traditional formal education in #HipHopEd
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I teach photography so my class is kind of independent. I stopped teaching in class but i would walk & talk teach. Fooled them. #HipHopEd
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Confession: “Independent Learning” looked like busy work in my classroom this past year. They wanted projects and I was too afraid to relinquish control. I see this in my parenting, too. Afraid of “messes.” #HipHopEd
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Sometimes pursuing a degree will rob you of true learning. If you’re being trained to loose your independence, it ain’t worth it #HipHopEd
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    You need to watch his talk at SXSW Edu last year. The way he employs A Tribe Called Quest lyrics in the talk felt very original, and the way he advocates for students is inspiring. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @sue_ferrara, @chrisemdin
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    “this is for all the teachers who told me I’d never amount to nothin..” Ss are learning w/o Ts, y’all! they don’t need us like we need them. if we want into their spaces, we must respect their inherent cultural knowledge. from there, it’s a dance. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • NatalieCrue Jul 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    I can't keep up with y'all #HipHopEd folks tonight 😂😂 Yall➡️➡️
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I think young people have to see what they already know as being worthy of being looked upon as knowledge and learning. The way they figure out how to play a video game on their own is an example of skills that are transferable #HipHopEd
    In reply to @MannyFaces
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Ha! My daughter loves to take pictures. Each time I offer an opportunity for her to take a class, she says: I can just play around and figured it out. And boy, does she. #HipHopEd
    • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:37 PM EDT
      I teach photography so my class is kind of independent. I stopped teaching in class but i would walk & talk teach. Fooled them. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Oh I agree with that. But I think that a teacher's knowledge of the student outweighs her knowledge of the content. I've seen teacher with a body of content unable to deliver any of it in engaging ways #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mathsmarti
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    You are not alone on the parenting one, I have a 19 year old and I am in the midst of the same transition. Lean on the honestly of your intent and the mistakes will be forgiven #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ladyakery
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    last year my photography 2 class turned into a 1 & 2. When we came back 2nd semester i got 6 more new students. 3N1 (pt. 1) #HipHopEd
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Schools are focused on PD surrounding the latest and greatest flashy curriculum. Shouldn't they just be focused on self-reflection? #Independentlearning starts with Ts looking into themselves. #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Facts #HipHopEd
    • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      “this is for all the teachers who told me I’d never amount to nothin..” Ss are learning w/o Ts, y’all! they don’t need us like we need them. if we want into their spaces, we must respect their inherent cultural knowledge. from there, it’s a dance. #HipHopEd
      In reply to @TheRealHipHopEd
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    self-reflection is the birthplace of potential. how dope you know exactly where your work lies! ✌🏽 #HipHopEd
    In reply to @ladyakery
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    @KamauKummba Her favorite subject. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Amen! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @oliverskrewe, @ladyakery
  • itsirened Jul 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    💯 #HipHopEd
    • chrisemdin - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:38 PM EDT
      Sometimes pursuing a degree will rob you of true learning. If you’re being trained to loose your independence, it ain’t worth it #HipHopEd
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Absolutely! And unfortunately math teachers often fall into that category, they value their own knowledge over student knowledge. The key is to guide students to link their knowledge to the content, and you can't do this without exploring what they know. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @callmemrmorris
  • mbdando Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Independent learning is predicated on the ability to ask critical “why” & “who benefits” questions. Edus responsibility is to cre8 an environment for this to occur academically, socially & emotionally. #hiphoped
  • ladyakery Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I had an ESOL S this year and I was at a loss. Discovered he writes and loves poetry. Assigned him independent projects on poets, poetry writing, etc. and got a signed copy of a book he loved when I told the poet about him. #HipHopEd
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Independent Learning material: Join next week’s chat 7/10 when we will be looking at Hip-Hop 1988. How old were you then? What did you listen then? How do you listen to the same songs now? What are the lessons? #HipHopEd
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I set my photog2 group up as leads. Gave them syllabus, they had to color it in. Had 1.5 teach theory to 1. Not an A but I learned #HipHopEd
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Yes. And educators seem to study pedagogy as opposed to subject matter. How can one teach and understand today's students and be totally clueless of new discoveries and knowledge? #HipHopEd
    • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      Schools are focused on PD surrounding the latest and greatest flashy curriculum. Shouldn't they just be focused on self-reflection? #Independentlearning starts with Ts looking into themselves. #HipHopEd
  • mbdando Jul 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Independent doesn’t mean isolated or reliant on rugged individualism Don’t get it twisted. #ubuntu #hiphoped
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Yes. This must be stated #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mbdando
  • dwcurry12 Jul 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Question for the fam: should independent learning have some sort of direction or guidance? And I don’t mean for Ss. I’ve seen where Ts engage in “independent learning” and come back to school having learned all the wrong things. #HipHopEd
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    no doubt. there’s nothing they can find and teach themselves, but to learn it in your bones means to live it and see it out loud. that’s why our work is to breathe life into ideas, to inspire a desire to connect + dig. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @MannyFaces
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I think so. I think we are often spinning our wheels with recycled theories. We need to work with what we got and move from there #HipHopEd
    In reply to @MrDoggettRMS
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I love when I met someone who reveals to me that my work aligns with a theory and or approach that I haven't heard of before. It creates a level of connectivity to great minds regardless of the categorical differences #HipHopEd
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A frustrating part of many schools of education when they teach tactics such as “don’t smile til November.” We’re currently in a struggle for the soul of the profession and the voices for student-driven learning must show up and not relent! Full stop! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @chrisemdin
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Define "wrong things". If the goal is to teach Ss how to learn, then they can learn anything. We all have knowledge we learned and never use. I'm thinking quadratic equations! #HipHopEd
    • dwcurry12 Jul 3 @ 9:45 PM EDT
      Question for the fam: should independent learning have some sort of direction or guidance? And I don’t mean for Ss. I’ve seen where Ts engage in “independent learning” and come back to school having learned all the wrong things. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    One question would be, who is determining what are the wrong things? Second question would be, is the learning process being valued as much or more that the destination achieved? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @dwcurry12
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    That’s critical thinking at its best! It is something to be celebrated and we as teachers have to figure out how to work this critical thinking into our class. There is no such thing as a student who doesn’t want to learn. #hiphoped
    In reply to @tdj6899, @MannyFaces
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    this #HipHopEd convo is a perfect example.
    In reply to @mbdando, @mathsmarti
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    I think addressing how to model independent learning to Ss would be a great use of professional development time. We need to approach it like we expect the Ss to. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @dwcurry12
  • WellynaC Jul 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    This was honestly my goal this summer. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Sitting with my son last year and looking at college majors and industries that didn't exist with I went to college some 30 years ago shows how independent learning today can shape structured learning tomorrow #HipHopEd
  • WellynaC Jul 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    I lost my identity in being who I thought “they” wanted me to be as a teacher. Being yourself takes courage. Conformity is easy. #HipHopEd
  • callmemrmorris Jul 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    ahhh...fire! These are all considerations we must make and take in while in spaces of learning #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899, @dwcurry12
  • keasy773 Jul 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    I was told that early in my teaching career and it always seemed out of character for me. Very "un-human" and damaging to my African and latino students #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NealPaulSchick, @chrisemdin
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Save it for next week’s chat ✌🏾#HipHopEd
    In reply to @BXTeach, @llcoolj
  • mathsmarti Jul 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    At a recent show, I was standing with a group & an artist was discussing sound frequency & it's relation to his music. I was intrigued so I asked him to talk to me more about it, which he did & after I researched to explore the math. This is my independent learning! #HipHopEd
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Yes! The question “why is this impotant?” must guide pedagogy. “Because it’s important to know” will NEVER be enough and students are too smart to be fooled by such a lazy excuse. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mbdando
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    yes! like hearing a beat you swear was made just for you! another reason to prioritize passionate questioning - originality + innovation are born from fervor. Cardi B isn’t a better lyricist than Lauryn, but she says is as only she can. that’s connectivity! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • Hokiesambo Jul 3 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Departing from conformity is hard, but students can be forgiving and patient in your struggle if they know it’s for their best interests. Ss want to see you invested. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @WellynaC
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    there’s no tricks to be implemented in a classroom of authenticity. real recognize real. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @NealPaulSchick, @chrisemdin
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    When you’re trending talking about Independent Learning #HipHopEd is the squad
  • ThinkPanoramic Jul 3 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    It is our duty to provide stus/youth a safe environment for them to express themselves, learn & grow and get through any fear(s)-- to reach passion and desire for knowledge and development #HipHopEd
    In reply to @keasy773, @NealPaulSchick, @chrisemdin
  • HipHopAdvocacy Jul 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Hey #HipHopEd folks, at 10pm EST we're talking with @kevinkos81 about the importance of hip-hop archiving in academic settings - Live on @BondfireRadio https://t.co/RgtAcw60wM - Replays/info/subscribe on @HipHopAdvocacy https://t.co/Dc1h1xX5xP #hiphopadvocacy
  • chrisemdin - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Pursue degrees with passion purpose and intention not to loose them #HipHopEd
  • MrDoggettRMS Jul 3 @ 9:55 PM EDT
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    I think the biggest disconnect with independent learning is the teachers resistance to collaborate. #HipHopEd
  • mbdando Jul 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    There are those who will advocate for individual neoliberal skill development & unthinking compliance in schools. They cloak deficit ideology in rhetoric of “success” & college prep. Don’t believe the hype. #hiphoped
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    The process by which you learn must be valued as much as what you learn #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Jul 3 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    I totally agree! Often "learning" and "schooling" are artificially conflated, when they are two different processes all together. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Teachers can be a part of the learning right in the classroom. Acknowledging that we too have to learn is powerful. When I teach writing, I write so my students can see my process; witness my mistakes; watch as I correct. #HipHopEd
  • itsirened Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • WellynaC Jul 3 @ 9:50 PM EDT
      I lost my identity in being who I thought “they” wanted me to be as a teacher. Being yourself takes courage. Conformity is easy. #HipHopEd
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Independent Learning is really remixing the Scientific Method to any aspect of life that you're interested in growing in #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd If youve always been dependent, independence is the most uncomfortable experience of ur life!
  • mnemognose Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    PS -- I wish I had been able to get home earlier! What a great topic, I missed so much tonight! #HipHopEd
    In reply to @tdj6899
  • NatalieCrue Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    We should make a playlist of songs that everyone was listening to. #88 🙌 #HipHopEd
    • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:44 PM EDT
      Independent Learning material: Join next week’s chat 7/10 when we will be looking at Hip-Hop 1988. How old were you then? What did you listen then? How do you listen to the same songs now? What are the lessons? #HipHopEd
  • AncrumSara Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd
    • sue_ferrara Jul 3 @ 9:57 PM EDT
      Teachers can be a part of the learning right in the classroom. Acknowledging that we too have to learn is powerful. When I teach writing, I write so my students can see my process; witness my mistakes; watch as I correct. #HipHopEd
  • gjladson Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd when you really grow you will become interdependent! #workswellwithothers
  • NealPaulSchick Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Sad. Teaching is about connecting human to human, and to celebrate our ability to deconstruct concepts. It’s the fundamental premise of “why?” Just to remind my Ss of this, I have the question “why?” framed big and bold in my room to encourage them to always ask it. #HipHopEd
    In reply to @keasy773, @chrisemdin
  • TheRealHipHopEd Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Independent Learning means that the Teacher would have to know their students on a level to evaluate instead of simply grade #HipHopEd
  • mnemognose Jul 3 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    What do you think the source of this collaboration is? Insecurity about their knowledge, some sort of fear? #HipHopEd
    In reply to @KamauKuumba
  • KamauKuumba Jul 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    school is almost in the same fashion set that it was in 81 when I graduated. Schools should be think tanks ran by students. #HipHopEd
  • itsirened Jul 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    #HipHopEd ❤️
  • oliverskrewe Jul 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    yes. so often coupled with a savior complex which seeks to isolate Ss from their neighborhoods + people. or worse, leaves them vulnerable in their communities, robbed of their cultural heritage, diluted to fit antiquated model. I have no patience with that. #niceforwhat #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mbdando
  • tdj6899 - Moderator Jul 3 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    You can always search independently and chime in accordingly :) #HipHopEd
    In reply to @mnemognose