#Edtechchat focuses on Education Technology. Co-founder Tom Murray says #edtechchat "connects us professionally with inspiring educators from all over the world, all of who encourage us to be better every day for the children and families we serve.”
Welcome to #edtechchat! Please introduce yourself and share from where you’re joining us! Tonight’s topic is AI in the Classroom: Innovative Tools or a Privacy Nightmare?
Hi everyone. N from 🇨🇦, #edtech creator, cofounder, enthusiast. Love the topic for tonight. I've been thinking a lot about privacy recently. #edtechchat
Hey #edtechchat I don’t fear AI in the classroom, because I don’t think there really is any. I want the world to fear my student’s intelligence. That’s real and real powerful. (https://t.co/wwqm7ahnSi)
Hi! I'm Kendra - first year high school math teacher from Oregon :) I learned a lot about EdTech in grad school & plan to use tech in all of my math classes! #edtechchat
Hi, I'm Faith. Technology coach from Alabama! I'm excited about this topic, as it's won that's very passionate among educators right now, and something I have been researching a lot the past few months. #edtechchat
Welcome to #edtechchat! Please introduce yourself and share from where you’re joining us! Tonight’s topic is AI in the Classroom: Innovative Tools or a Privacy Nightmare?
I don't fear AI, but I do fear that teachers and students don't understand what they are getting into - if we don't read the terms and conditions of regular software, what do we do with this! #edtechchat
Welcome to #edtechchat! Please introduce yourself and share from where you’re joining us! Tonight’s topic is AI in the Classroom: Innovative Tools or a Privacy Nightmare?
A1 AI is a database system that can be queried for answers. As the system receives input from the user, it updates and add knowledge. It can also take over the world #EdTechChat
A1: AI can be an extremely powerful and beneficial tool when used appropriately... I think classrooms have a lot of potential to incorporate it in a way that enhances (rather than hinders) the learning process! #edtechchat
A1: I have an irrational love affair with #Alexa and I see how she can be of such use in the classroom (if used properly). I also find Ss just ask #siri instead of typing questions these days. An interesting time we live in, for sure! #edtechchat
A1: While doing some research for the chat tonight, I came across this article from Forbes, that lists Netflix and Amazon as AI's. I guess those are the only 2 I use. I don't use Siri, Alexa, etc. #edtechchathttps://t.co/UBfsuvUGsH
A1: i'm a little old school, some AI wigs me out a little (Alexa), but I have seen some good uses in the classroom. follow @HallDavidson - He shares some great resources
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A1 - AI, as seen in 99% of the ways it's used today, is machine learning. It's computers searching (often vast) amounts of data looking for connections & trying to create causation. Every time you open twitter/search google, AI is influencing what you see first. #edtechchat
CoSN: 30 minutes and counting til discussion at 8 PM ET 5 PM PT on bringing AI into classrooms #edtechchat CoSN s_bearden keithkrueger For more visit https://t.co/qdsGixUjPi
How different is it, really though, to the tech students already bring in class? They post pics and video to Snapchat, ask Siri, etc. What more can Alexa do that they don't already do? #Edtechchat
Use ethical tech and have kids publish from domains they own as much as possible. Help contribute to the Open Source Learning AI of the future. #edtechchat (https://t.co/RawIKfPiEG)
A1: Artificial Intelligence is what we are calling sets of programs that mimic human behavior. It is all around us, and we do not have a good idea of how it all interacts. I am not worried about #skynet, but about how much we rely on those interactions #edtechchat
I think that's something we forget, or at least I did. It's not just something you command something to do, it's anything that collects data like you said! #edtechchat
"This program is unique in breadth and scale, covering 19 curriculum for K-12. Through this, we are empowering these kids not only to be consumers of technology but to be creators of technology.” #EdTech#EdTechChat#MondayMotivationhttps://t.co/BfKkz2WJgI
The ask Siri (or Alexa) is an interesting piece to consider. We'd be upset if Ss used only one source when researching. While Siri/Alexa have access to huge *banks* of sources, the biases in their programming influence the results we get... #edtechchat
AI - Artificial Intelligence ... while I am texting recommended words pop up ... YouTube builds playlists for me based on videos played ... Facebook can tag people based on the image #edtechchat
A1.a For me the applications center around some specific applications, usually some sort of pattern recognition or categorization, and it's application to education. #EdTechChat
There is a real difference, from a #privacy and responsibility perspective, for the school or district between what a student might be doing on their own vs. what the school enables by bringing the tech into the classroom. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @ajpodchaski
Alexa is always listening, and keeping track of what goes on via the account used in the classroom. That is more data that can be used for or against a teacher or student. Do you have an open discussion when you know you are being recorded? #edtechchat
"Everyday" examples of AI includes things like Google's predictive search and Facebook's algorithms that determine what content makes it into your Facebook feed. #edtechchat
Alexa is always listening, and keeping track of what goes on via the account used in the classroom. That is more data that can be used for or against a teacher or student. Do you have an open discussion when you know you are being recorded? #edtechchat
Many teachers don’t know how “Reply All” works and we think the classroom is ready for AI…which doesn’t really exist yet…machine learning ain’t the same….#edtechchat (https://t.co/0VhZEnYdj9)
A1 AI = The ability of computer systems to perform tasks
that normally require human intelligence. Any tool if used correctly can enhance the learning experience for students. Our AI - Artificial Intelligence page https://t.co/IeVbLlVPIH#edtechchat
Just because a S can do something outside of the classroom, doesn't mean we should welcome it into the classroom. It's a really slippery slope here, and I think one goal for Ts should be teaching Ss about #privacy. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @ajpodchaski
A1: Here are more examples of #AI in education https://t.co/g0HMqe7G8Y I was fortunate enough to co-teach ad co-design a course with other great women leaders through #ISTE & GM partnerships this past year - you can find more information here https://t.co/6WH8JAZ9BS#edtechchat
Hi #EdTechChat
I'm Scott, former hs math teacher. current researcher & consultant based in Oakland.
A1: I read about AI in education a lot and have worked on research papers using machine learning. I generally am underwhelmed by the supposed intelligence of AI.
Alexa is always listening, and keeping track of what goes on via the account used in the classroom. That is more data that can be used for or against a teacher or student. Do you have an open discussion when you know you are being recorded? #edtechchat
And the single recording initially is on one device owned by someone in the classroom. Alexa is sending it out to the cloud, and it's being stored and passed around outside your control. #edtechchat
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@ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells
A1: machine learning can help in Edu but comes down to the humans curating in the end. I see most potential in assessment and first-pass resource curation #EdTechChat
AI is an aid ... i am on the fence ... part of is like "Awesome life got easier" the other part of me is like "Does efficient learning equal better learning?" #edtechchat
Excellent point Linnette. So many AI concerns hinge on parental consent issues, from using tools like Alexa and Google home to underage use of social media. #edtechchat
There is a real difference, from a #privacy and responsibility perspective, for the school or district between what a student might be doing on their own vs. what the school enables by bringing the tech into the classroom. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @ajpodchaski
#edtechchat A1. It's interesting how the prompts come up for words and spellings, for auto fills and suggestions for your playlists...I think that's AI.
A2 - The benefit I'd *like* to see, is using AI to help lead personalized learning. Allowing Ts to more easily meet each S at their needs, instead of average of class. I've yet to see it do so successfully, effectively. #edtechchat
I had a freaky experience moderating a panel at @futureofprivacy not long ago...there was an Alexa in the room that would wake up when anyone in the room said the word "Alexa" in casual conversation. It felt really uncomfortable. #edtechchat
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@ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A2) @brittanyhrr would ask her smart speaker to verify her 2nd grade students' answers for them. With @IFTTT the class can be told what to wear at the for recess. #EdTechChat
A2 #edtechchat
potential uses for AI in the classroom. I'm very interested in AI as a human-support not a human-replacement. That means I'd like to see AI help teachers facilitate classroom discussion. But I'm not sure if *AI* is necessary for that.
There is also a world of difference between how these companies are managing COPPA requirements with certain AI products for use in the home and use in schools, where they have strongly signaled that they are NOT configured to comply with student data privacy laws. #edtechchat
No, we shouldn't ban phones from the classroom, but you need to be aware of what is going on when they are available and being used. We can't pretend we do not know what they are capable of for good or bad purposes. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @TNording, @gwsorrells
A2: Potential uses of AI in k12 - automated grading, personalized tutoring, advancements in driving self- driving cars, personalized learning for all and advancement improvements with those with impairments #edtechchathttps://t.co/RjZh15SqA7 and https://t.co/9BABbeFy9B
These are usually something like a decision tree. Someone who likes X, Y also usually also likes Z. So they make recommendations based on your past purchases or views. #EdTechChat
An algorithm is a set of instructions. If this, do that. AI takes algorithms a step further. Goal is a program that can create it's *own* instructions when encountering a new situation.
Algorithm = create PB&J sandwich.
AI = create any sandwich given ingredients
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#edtechchat the issue with these for education is the trend towards "your bubble". Your search results and your facebook feed don't expand your mind.
These techs need to be flipped on their head. example metaphor: show me a distribution of google predictive search over a popul.
A2) the best case scenario is that consumer level AI, personal profile or class level, helps students distinguish different types of questions: concrete/complex, objective/subjective, etc. #edtechchat
I agree they do. They are tools that can be used for multiple purposes. If students are already recording teachers, then they have already figured that out #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @TNording, @gwsorrells
#edtechchat many of the attempts around AI involve content recommendations, as those are the uses in Search and Ad sales for corporations. But too often these attempts get baked into assumptions of linear pathways of learning, single dimensional assessment of knowledge...
A2: Love Parrot Coding Drones. I talk about the correct way to use drones. The importance of respecting neighbors privacy when flying your personal drone. School is the best place to teach citizenship. My Ss Love coding drones.💕.#edtechchat
Did you hear about how Amazon buying Whole Foods was really a mistake?
Bezos: Alexa, buy an Olive at whole foods.
Alexa: Buying all of Whole Foods.
#EdTechChat
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@ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells
I don't see an issue per se with it being stored in AWS. I do have concerns with the rush to bring the tech into the classroom, despite the companies clearly signaling to all of us that it's not meant to be there! #edtechchat
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@s_bearden, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A3 In the US S data is fairly well protected thru legislation. This is not the case elsewhere. Despite this given global nature of data sharing leaks are difficult to prevent. #edtechchat#s_bearden
It more a developing area of tech and policy than a real controversy. We haven't really figured it all out yet, which is why it could be trouble or it could be amazing. We just don't know all the possible problems yet. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @s_bearden, @nathan_stevens, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
The more I think about Watson, the more I wonder if we'll figure out a good way to use it. I think most of us would agree that quite often the smartest person we know would be a *terrible* teacher. Knowing something != being able to teach it. #edtechchat
Did you hear about how Amazon buying Whole Foods was really a mistake?
Bezos: Alexa, buy an Olive at whole foods.
Alexa: Buying all of Whole Foods.
#EdTechChat
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@ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells
A sidebar question: is a generation raised on voice commands for everything from smartphones to smart speakers to remote controls better positioned to engage in real-life, real-time discourse? #edtechchat
Did you hear about how Amazon buying Whole Foods was really a mistake?
Bezos: Alexa, buy an Olive at whole foods.
Alexa: Buying all of Whole Foods.
#EdTechChat
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@ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells
It does not need to rely on US servers to be FERPA compliant, although many districts do prefer that/insist on that as it potentially makes "direct control" easier. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A3: There is the problem that even the best AI can only interpret so much, they can't read emotion, situation, or many other personal variables. That leaves a lot of room for mistakes in responses and potential danger #edtechchat
IMO - No. Knowing how to command != knowing how to discuss. In fact, i think it's probably the opposite. We expect compliance from our devices, not disagreement. #edtechchat
Is a person who looks things up in a phone book better for discourse? Probably not. The person who uses the phone a lot. Maybe. Voice Search is the same. #edtechchat (https://t.co/k0R7YF68Ha)
A3: Cost, loss of personal social connections with others, possible unemployment, and loss or inaccurate information. Article on pros & cons of AI https://t.co/JQ9A9ieRy8 and how to prepare our next generation for AI from Harvard business study https://t.co/1JQ9OnV4UX#edtechchat
A2 #edtechchat
I recently heard @neuraltheory speak at an @edsurge event. I like how her work (ex: https://t.co/in8bbNC3kj) uses AI to parse unstructured data -- (written language on forums) rather than structured response data. Feels a lot more powerful use of AI.
Bookmark this resource! Educator's Gide to Student Data Privacy from @ConnectSafely and @futureofprivacyhttps://www.connectsafely.org/eduprivacy/ #edtechchat
Add in that AI is a combination of:
- the information you give it
- the information it already has
- the biases of the people who programmed it
"One rotten apple spoils the barrel"
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Learn a bit of R (and statistics to go with it), some Python, and then play a bit with tensorflow. You will then realize if a company or vendor talks about AI they are lying. #edtechchat (https://t.co/cVBI69eztq)
Your use is not the problem. Even what you describe is completely useful and understandable. The problem is, by using the echo devices the students are also constantly being recorded, and you can't stop them from activating the device. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @nathan_stevens, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
The same way they learn about the benefits and risks of any new technologies: 1) learn the fundamentals (check out @cosn privacy toolkit https://t.co/sdABcUtvZN) and 2) research the tech before bringing it in. (And media coverage doesn't count as research!) :) #edtechchat
A4 I think the big risk is bringing the curriculum to the point where students are equipped to work in a AI populated world. For example, how much of the CS we teach will be relevant in 30 years. #EdTechChat
A4) Explore, experiment. Ask yourself, if an AI could fulfill some or all of the responsibilities I assign myself as an educator, what would my role be? Would I feel threatened or empowered? #edtechchat
A4 I did a lot of research earlier this year in order to write a blog, also trying some things out and keep up to date with other news and updates #edtechchat
@s_bearden I wonder when AI will become indistinguishable from HI? We consider practical implications here but how will it change us as humans? And not just in a -ve sense #EDtechchat
One case of risk ... we risk taking away a learning opportunity from the kids in the name of efficiency ... as a Social Studies teacher one of my standards is researching ... do I want a bot finding the kids' sources? #edtechchat
A4: Educators (and #techdirs and #CTO) need to know the laws and policies. They also need to ask questions when new tech is released. None of us are in this alone! #edtechchat
I would welcome a COPPA compliant version of Alexa that allows schools to remain FERPA compliant and doesn't store classroom recordings for "product improvement." The consumer version of Alexa does not fit the bill. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @PlayWell_LLC, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A4: I'm thinking not too many are aware of benefits/risks, unless they are an advocate for best practices focused on cybersecurity. Here's another support article from Getting Smart on Artificial Intelligence: Implications for the Future of Edu https://t.co/nOUArH30hs#edtechchat
None if it's just getting a robot to move through a maze. 😛
Actually, probably all of it, if you focus on teaching logic and computational thinking. Programming languages change, but fundamentals have stayed the same. #edtechchat
Privacy in the classroom ... I will do me best, but I can be perfect and the kids are still going to be Snapchatting/Posting to Instagram in between classes with their school uniforms on #edtechchat
I would welcome a COPPA compliant version of Alexa that allows schools to remain FERPA compliant and doesn't store classroom recordings for "product improvement." The consumer version of Alexa does not fit the bill. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @PlayWell_LLC, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
I just wish more voices of AI researchers were elevated. Many of them are not skeptics, but they're not blind to the moral and ethical implications of what they're doing. But, we like to elevate the voices of people on the extremes. #edtechchat
One case of risk ... we risk taking away a learning opportunity from the kids in the name of efficiency ... as a Social Studies teacher one of my standards is researching ... do I want a bot finding the kids' sources? #edtechchat
I have a few at home to play with, and just got the new fire cube tv, which integrates with my entertainment system. It is awesome, but there are limits to what I am willing to share. I shut them all off sometimes, and still do things independent of them #edtechchat
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@Rdene915, @gwsorrells, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @nathan_stevens, @Kristin_Burke10, @futureofprivacy
I would welcome a COPPA compliant version of Alexa that allows schools to remain FERPA compliant and doesn't store classroom recordings for "product improvement." The consumer version of Alexa does not fit the bill. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @PlayWell_LLC, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
but that will go against what the intent of the product ... Alexa is there to build a profile of its user for Amazon ... so it can make recommendations for purchases ... it is an AI Salesbot #edtechchat
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@s_bearden, @nathan_stevens, @PlayWell_LLC, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
For most educators the best AI can get is being able to autotime like sixteen tweets to blast out during #edtechchat with no engagement of the audience. #edtechchat (https://t.co/R1VRYNczaa)
There are certain games that Amazon makes for children, but NOT for use in schools. FERPA, state student data privacy laws, CIPA...bringing these products into the classroom = #privacy laws are being ignored. #edtechchat#privacymatters
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@s_bearden, @nathan_stevens, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
When thinking of using Alexa/Siri, think of how quickly mishearing a single word can change entire meaning. Would vs Wouldn't.
Then ask yourself, can Alexa/Siri deal with all the accents and/or speech issues in your classroom? #edtechchathttps://t.co/ZUnjx0b6BD
That's why teachers have to work more with their #CTO or #techdir and be partners in protecting their students! There is no excuse anymore. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A5 Possibly, but humans have the ability to move to new topics and approaches away from the AI's strengths. Also, human interaction is a valuable component of the learning experience. #EdTechChat
A5 #edtechchat. Bad Teachers? Maybe.... Good Teachers? I don't think so. I don't see AI ever being able to stimulate a student like a good teacher can.
Indeed. But you can control what YOU bring in, and that matters! Talking to students about why you do and don't bring certain tech into the classroom also makes a real difference, even if it doesn't seem that the message is sinking in, it does. #edtechchat
A5: They may replace the teachers for study hall, but not they ones who are engaging students with more than a worksheet and reading from the book. #edtechchat
A5 - No. People are complex. We bring with us such complicated histories and experiences. Sure, we can feed them all into an AI, but then they just become part of the noise, and get squeezed out into a single form. Ts are more than the content they're suppose to teach #edtechchat
Q5: No, it will never replace teachers & I say this as someone who programs AI in educational games. Kids need someone to listen. Sometimes, just to let them stay after school and do homework quietly when they don't want to go home. #edtechchat
Hello GOOGLE ... and we have kids using all the free google products ... creating good solid google users ... why because it is free ... how much data does google have on our kids? #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
I should follow that with - It *shouldn't* replace Ts because of the above, and what many others have said. But, the way things get governed/implemented top down, I worry that it will. #edtechchat
On that note I am gonna go watch CaddyShack with my son (need to be there in case I have to fast forward). Night all. #edtechchat (https://t.co/q4PidVo2Xk)
Q6: It has been predicted that Artificial Intelligence (AI) will make many jobs obsolete. What skills will students need to remain our employable in the future? #edtechchat
Google's G Suite for Education Suite is designed - from a privacy perspective - for use in the classroom. However, they do NOT allow use of a G Suite account for their AI products: those aren't meant for use in the classroom. #edtechchat
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@DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
If the walls are as they should be, all that data is on a profile that should eventually be deleted by the district with no link to the user. But that's a big IF #edtechchat
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@DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
Dear colleagues, I know you have good intentions and want to do right by kids, but this is a privacy disaster. Please don’t use these technologies in the classroom. You put student privacy in danger and yourself at legal risk. #iste18#edtech#iste2018
A6 Focus on general principles, abstract reasoning and interconnections between topics. We need far far less focus on the fast acquisition of recipes. #EdTechChat
Q6: It has been predicted that Artificial Intelligence (AI) will make many jobs obsolete. What skills will students need to remain our employable in the future? #edtechchat
That's also assuming students don't find a way around the wall, something they seem to be good at! They can all get to YouTube even though it's blocked! #Edtechchat
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@ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @PlayWell_LLC, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
Yes, and their AI products are not part of their education suite, so there should be no expectation that they are managing that data with regard to student data privacy laws. #edtechchat
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@nathan_stevens, @DennisDill, @s_bearden, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
#edtechchat Q6: Students need to learn to get along with other people to remain employable. No matter how talented you are, there will be a point beyond which is not worth the pain in the ass of putting up with you.
Like the biblical scripture ... teach a child in the ways of the lord and they will never leave ... let’s replace lord with google and you have the best marketing tool ever created. #edtechchat
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@PlayWell_LLC, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @ajpodchaski, @Kristin_Burke10, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A5 #edtechchat
Short answer: no.
Long answer: tech and teachers will find some new equilbrium and sharing of tasks, but human socialization will (must!) always be involved unless we're in some dystopia (so: maybe?)
A6 They will need skills of communicating, collaborating, prob solving, and skills of transfer, be able to adapt to new job reqts, settings, adding this link again, b/c I was amazed at what = AI that we may not realize https://t.co/bGKCBkcZ24#edtechchat
Yes, and it gives your poor CTO fits! The idea is simply for educators to follow and help enforce the #privacy and security rules. They're in place for a reason. #edtechchat
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@Kristin_Burke10, @ajpodchaski, @DennisDill, @nathan_stevens, @s_bearden, @gwsorrells, @futureofprivacy
A6 #edtechchat I used to think the answer was any job that required manual dexterity. Then I saw a robot building a house. Depending on how far out in the future you want to go. Maybe Politician will be the only job not impacted? :)
The core GSuite EDU products have different privacy policies than the commercial versions. Important to recognize which applications are not included in EDU suite (i.e. YouTube) #EdTechChat
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