#5thchat Archive

#5thchat is for people interested in chatting about topics in education, especially as they relate to Grade 5. The goal is to connect people who enjoy learning & sharing, plus supporting & creating partnerships worldwide!

Tuesday September 18, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Hey #5thChat Brian Klaft 8th gr science from Aurora, IL looking forward to hosting tonights chat!
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Please introduce yourself, where you are from, and answer this question: Do you feel #PumpkinSpice is over used this time of year! Add a pic your favorite or least favorite Pumpkin Spice product #5thchat
  • JoyKirr Sep 18 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    This #champforkids teacher, @BrysonBridget, is skipping her riding lesson to moderate #ShiftThis right NOW! Join us to chat about shifting OWNERSHIP! Who and where are you? #edchat #BeTheOne #5thchat #2ndaryela #nebedchat #whatisschool #JoyfulLeaders #kidsdeserveit
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    #PumpkinSpice is way way way over used! Need I say, or show more! #5thchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Ben from NC. Finally opening school tomorrow after 3 1/2 days off. #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Welcome Ben! #5thchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Oh man! I'm not a fan of pumpkin spice & it seems to be everywhere in Sept/Oct! I'm Paul Solarz, a 4th grade teacher from Arlington Heights, Illinois. Thankful to have @BKd204Sci moderating #5thchat tonight!!!
  • SantanaMiralys Sep 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    My name is Miralys Santana and I’m a preservice teacher. I am so excited to learn from all of you. Fun fact, I have never tried pumpkin #5thchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Not down with #PSL sorry. Favorite product: #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Tonights topic is Fostering Student Leadership Lets start sharing ideas to inspire our peers to put students in charge! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hey Miralys! You are better off never trying #PumpkinSpice #5thchat
    In reply to @SantanaMiralys
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Thanks! Looking forward for a great chat! #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Question 1 is coming up in 1 minute! #5thchat
  • internet4classr Sep 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Sentence Types Quiz. After each sentence, select the option that best describes that sentence. https://t.co/uf5eQI8Ms6 #edchat #5thchat #6thchat #7thchat #8thchat #Quiz #engchat
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi! My name is Havanah and I’m a pre-service teacher at Lesley University. Pumpkin Spice is great when done right! #5thChat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Welcome Havanah! #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Q1: What does student leadership look like in your learning space? #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1 In our learning space it looks like Ss taking on roles to improve their confidence and communication Getting them a bit out of their comfort zone is ok once in awhile #5thchat
  • pjcerullo Sep 18 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Leadership in our learning space includes students building confidence, working collaboratively, taking initiative in the classroom, leading from behind, and taking ownership and accountability. #5thchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: So far this year, I,ve been building our class up as a team/family. We talk about how we represent our family/team when we are in or out of the room. If we are unsure, we ask our team. Some step up to the challenge and take the lead during sm group. Work in progress #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Could not agree more with the ownership and accountability! Those are life skills that are never too early in life to work on! #5thchat
    In reply to @pjcerullo
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    Question 2 is on the way... #5thchat
  • SantanaMiralys Sep 18 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    From what I have experience, students not only show initiative and other responsibilities for themselves but also, when Ss encourage and motivates each other too. #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Q2 What are some examples of small scale leadership you can give students in your learning space? (Large scale is coming up next! #5thChat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Leadership can bring a domino effect into the classroom When 1 student gives it a try it motivates others to do the same #5thchat
    In reply to @SantanaMiralys
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    A1 - Student Leadership has many "faces" in our classroom, because we have Active Leaders & Passive Leaders. Everyone shows their leadership on a daily basis though, because it's part of our culture. Here are some recent examples... #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    I think it’s super important to build a sense of community where students feel like they can take a leadership role, but it definitely takes time! #5thChat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    This is Ss getting it done w/Leadership! #5thchat
    • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:12 PM EDT
      A1 - Student Leadership has many "faces" in our classroom, because we have Active Leaders & Passive Leaders. Everyone shows their leadership on a daily basis though, because it's part of our culture. Here are some recent examples... #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    The hard part is teaching them to be more independent. 5 yrs of them being dependent on "what do I do next" as opposed to knowing how to problem solve. (Im sure not every grade before me) #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Important for Ts to know when Ss are ready for the leadership challenge! #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah, @mr_abee_tweets
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2 - RESPONSIBILITY PARTNERS are a great example of small scale leadership! Students help their assigned partner complete independent work, follow directions, make revisions, and stay focused on their work. #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    I love it! I am working hard this year on breaking the trend of (the teacher is the ONLY go to for questions) #5thchat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • pjcerullo Sep 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: Small changes for our crew include jobs and “whole class responsibilities” They apply for a job they want and run with it. They get so good at it, that I hardly think about it. #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Having Ss gain the confidence prior to 5th grade to lead is an obstacle Main thing is that Ss are given the opportunity to lead #5thchat
    In reply to @mr_abee_tweets
  • pjcerullo Sep 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    This is great! I’m going to implement this asap. Do you assign the partners or let them choose? #5thchat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2 Peer collaboration is one way I found Ss can start becoming stronger leaders. I feel all Ss can lead, they just lack the experience to have confidence #littlesteps #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    What does that application look like? That could be used at any grade! #5thchat
    In reply to @pjcerullo
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Q3 is getting ready for your responses! #5thchat
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: Small scale: Representative of their small group (rotate weekly), have Ss show their methods/style of problem solving in subject areas for the class (video, demonstration, small group monitor) #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    Q3 What are some examples of large scale leadership you can give students in your learning space? #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A3 I use table captains, who oversee tables of 4 to keep the science energy going in class They act like mini group manages that oversee a project #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A3 - GIVE ME FIVE! My students have the power to interrupt class whenever they need to in order to transition, give direction, share resources, ask questions, get help, etc. This is the most important leadership tool that my students have! #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    This is such an effective practice at any grade! #5thchat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Do you find that students abuse this or do they use it the way it’s intended? #5thChat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3 - TED-ED TALKS I have my students record a "TED-ED Talk" about one of their Passion Projects at the end of the school year in order to passionately connect with others about a topic that matters deeply to them. Examples: https://t.co/B98T2oKSF7 #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Question 4 of #5thchat is on the way...
  • pjcerullo Sep 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3- Give me 5 (Thanks @PaulSolarz) has been a game changer with our crew. We also implement task managers for larger tasks that need to be done. #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    Never a problem Phillip! :) I use popsicle sticks to randomly partner my kiddos throughout the day. They get quite a workout! I want everyone to work with everyone so they build stronger relationships and we as a class become a stronger unit! #5thchat #LearnLAP
    In reply to @pjcerullo
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    Q4 What is your opinion: Must students work with other students to develop leadership? Give some support to your answer please #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    I've used @PaulSolarz #GivemeFive method in my 8th grade room & I did not see students abuse it...I wish they'd have used it more! #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah, @PaulSolarz, @PaulSolarz
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    I am sure it takes a lot of instruction on the front end as well as knowing the appropriate times (probably not during guided reading etc...) I know one girl in my class who would probably take advantage! haha! She loves to share with the class. #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah, @PaulSolarz
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    Haven't had anyone abuse it in years! I actually forgot to talk about the importance of not abusing it this year and so far we haven't had a single mistake! Kids appreciate the power & authority we give them & want it to continue (but it's easy to prevent too)! #5thchat #LearnLAP
    • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:24 PM EDT
      Do you find that students abuse this or do they use it the way it’s intended? #5thChat
      In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A4 The first step toward leadership is knowing how to lead yourself through a day Empowering Ss to first be a leader for themselves is what I want all my Ss to feel #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Honestly, I don't give any restrictions outside of standardized testing & when they're out of our classroom. I want them to do a GM5 during a math test if they remember something I was supposed to announce but forgot, or while I'm teaching if it's time to get to gym! #5thchat
    • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:27 PM EDT
      I am sure it takes a lot of instruction on the front end as well as knowing the appropriate times (probably not during guided reading etc...) I know one girl in my class who would probably take advantage! haha! She loves to share with the class. #5thchat
      In reply to @BeckerHavanah, @PaulSolarz
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A4 An important part of leadership is effective communication! And the best way to learn to communicate through practice. Ss don’t always need other Ss, but it can help their development as leaders! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    The second half of #5thchat is about to begin!
  • pjcerullo Sep 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A4: Becoming a leader yourself is important, but I feel it must be cultivated through working with others. I had a S who was not super confident, but started to take ownership in groups and she became more confidence and a leader in her own right. #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    "Give me Five" definitely takes a lot of whole-class prompting and individual planting in order for it to happen as often as I want it to. That being said, my new 4th graders are doing it 5-10 times each day already & it's finally more than the usual 2-3 leaders! #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @BeckerHavanah
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Student leadership also means giving Ss some independence When Ss feel independent they are more secure taking those opportunities in class #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Q5 Lets transition to the benefits of student leadership. What are the benefits of giving students leadership opportunities? #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Practice instills confidence! #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    That sounds awesome! #5thchat
    In reply to @pjcerullo
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A5 - Benefits of Student Leadership (see image)... #5thchat #LearnLAP
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
    A5 When Ss lead they work together; when they work together they hear other perspectives; when they hear other perspectives they solve more problems TOGETHER! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    One of our jobs as Ts is to guide Ss to work together to solve a problem It takes a village to lead a village! When we work together much more is able to be accomplished #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    Question 6 of #5thchat is coming right up!
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Q6 Who do you feel benefits more from leadership, the high achieving student, or the struggling student? Why? #5thchat
  • CoachMicieli Sep 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4: If students don’t practice leadership skills in the classroom where will they develop this ability? Most people would respond the home or on an athletic team. Parents are busy working and only a small % of kids are playing sports today. It has to happen in the class. #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @PaulSolarz
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5: not only does it give students autonomy in the class, but benefits of S leadership go way beyond the classroom! It gives them valuable experience for their future, no matter what they end up doing! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    The classroom is the perfect place for students to learn how to be effective leaders #5thchat
    In reply to @CoachMicieli, @PaulSolarz
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    It is never too early to start Ss working on life skills! Some things cant wait until next year #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A6 I feel it really helps the struggling student, too often they just think they can't, when they see they can the light bulb can go off & it can be a game changer #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    Question 7 in 60 seconds! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Q7 How does the classroom environment benefit from student leadership? #5thchat
  • CoachMicieli Sep 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A1: After reading @TheLeaderinMe, I committed to developing the leadership skills of the students in my class. My students hold leadership positions like: secretary, pencil distributor, IT Manager, and Facilities Manager. Students use the 7 Habits vocab to communicate. #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @PaulSolarz, @TheLeaderinMe
  • BeckerHavanah Sep 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    I agree! If they have to explain something to another student, the struggling student will have to learn it themselves, which ultimately benefits both students #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci
  • BMSscienceteach Sep 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6) Honestly - I would say both. All students need opportunities to be leaders. All students need opportunities to lead. They can lead through words and/or actions. Some students may need more guidance and refinement in being leaders than others. #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A7 A classroom where leadership is cultivated and shared is one that is always active There are rarely crickets chirping in a leader filled classroom #5thchat
  • SantanaMiralys Sep 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    Thought Ss leadership, they are incharge of classroom environment. I think it gives student a way of having a choice in how to manage the material they are learning and the relationship between them. #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Placing Ss of all types in a win-win situation is what Ts should strive for #5thchat
    In reply to @BeckerHavanah
  • mr_abee_tweets Sep 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Right on. I am trying to implement some of these practices this year, though our day is jam packed (teaching all subjects and remediation.) There is more push for "traditional methods" but I am trying to build more alt practices in throughout the year #5thchat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Leadership makes #StudentVoice Louder and #StudentChoice more powerful #5thchat
    In reply to @SantanaMiralys
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    It's final question time...already! #5thchat
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7 Student leadership leads to student ownership of the classroom & the learning! No longer is this the teacher's classroom - it's all of ours & we want to take care of it & make learning happen here! We believe that we ALL win & succeed, or else NO ONE wins or succeeds! #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    Q8 Finally, how does a teacher benefit when students take on leadership in the learning space? #5thchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    It's not my classroom, its our shared learning space Giving my Ss leadership made that a reality #5thchat
    In reply to @PaulSolarz
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    Please join us in 5 minutes for a 30-minute Social-Emotional chat: #Peekachat as we discuss "Implementing SEL in the Elementary Classroom" starting at 8pm Central time. #5thchat #edchat #education #edtech #k12 #4thchat #3rdchat #2ndchat #1stchat #kinderchat
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
    A8 It was mentioned earlier about community being important Having Ss lead builds that community sense in a learning space That can only help a T be more purposeful and intentional w/instruction #5thchat
  • CoachMicieli Sep 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    A3: Using the terms from the 7 Habits of Highly Effective teens, large scale leadership looks like “Playing Well With Others.” 4. Think Win-Win 5. Seek First To Understand, Than Be Understood. 6. Synergize #5thchat
    In reply to @BKd204Sci, @PaulSolarz
  • BKd204Sci Sep 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    I want to thank all of you for taking part in tonight's #5thChat Hope you found the discussion relevant to your learning space Thanks also to @PaulSolarz for letting me spend an hour with all of you!
  • PaulSolarz - Moderator Sep 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A8 - I've stopped being neurotic about the clock, the supplies, making sure everyone is doing everything exactly right, etc. My kiddos take care of everything & don't seem to be worried about any of it! Teaching has become simplified as a result of student leadership! #5thchat