#ATchat Archive
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Wednesday May 4, 2016
8:00 PM EDT
KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#atchat
Today we wrap up our discussion on our 1st book club title: The End of Average by
@ltoddrose
https://t.co/64zntUZTDD
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Even if you haven’t read the book stay tuned for the discussion-accommodating for individual differences not the statistical average
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hey now! AT Specialist & Co-Mod. Please introduce yourself
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#MayTheFourthBeWithYou
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
The subtitle for the book is "How we Succeed in a World that Values Sameness" and proposes we accept uniqueness and not "averages"
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I'm here tonight - Elisa from Florida -
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ready to talk and learn!
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi Mike! How is everything in the AT World in Jersey?
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
We are happy to have a group of contributors tonight. Thx again to
@possbeth
@rziolkowski
&
@eyeonaxs
for the questions
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EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Emily from CT
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@wernedat
@EGraniero
Welcome! Great to see you tonight!
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Hey Karen! Busy Busy Busy. That is the state of the state here in NJ
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Watch The End of Average
@ltoddrose
8 for 8 video:
https://t.co/9LAZnUlNrY
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include
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hashtag.
atstewart
May 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Alan in Scotland
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
@atstewart
Hey Alan! So glad to have you with us tonight. Is this your first time with
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@atstewart
Hey alan! Great to have you join us from across the pond.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
The book explores 3 main principles: Jaggedness, Context & Pathways Principle. Tonight’s focus: Context & Pathways Principles
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Context Principle: Behavior is not determined by traits or situation, but from unique interaction between the two
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atstewart
May 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
@mmatp
No. I drop in from time to time but it's 01:00 here so not always able to.
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Todd from Trumbull CT
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Q1 from
@rziolkowski
focuses on context specific behaviors based upon the work cited here
https://t.co/fy2JTxJW8h
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@atstewart
totally understandable :) glad to have you here to share as long as you can stay awake
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
@TEHPE5
Welcome Todd - are you new to
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?
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: "If-Then signatures" What are some examples of where you have seen different student behaviors based on the context?
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hi
@EGraniero
@wernedat
@TEHPE5
Glad to have you here tonight to discuss the book
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Marybeth from AR/TN
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
I've been lurking and learning how to tweet.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 - Classic and oft-repeated example - the students with dysgraphia or DOWE who melt down due to written language demands
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@TEHPE5
We are happy to see you here!
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
@spedville
Welcome!
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: All. The. Time. Motivation based. If Student is motivated the resultant behavioral outcome can change SIGNIFICANTLY.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1- Another classic ex, the S w/ reading LDs who acts up just before it's their turn to read outloud.Get sent to office; no reading.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
@wernedat
Engaged and motivated. Passive learning context changes behaviors.
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: All. The. Time. Motivation based. If Student is motivated the resultant behavioral outcome can change SIGNIFICANTLY.
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 (p2) - if Ss wants to write on topic they are interested in they will use AT tools. If not of interest...maybe nothing written?
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 with my SC Ss the If-Then is often related to change of adults - not providing consistent supports, not presuming competence
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
What is DOWE?
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
@TEHPE5
Disorder of Written Expression
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https://t.co/yyOw4P5lLQ
TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
What is DOWE?
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
@spedville
Great example. It's environmental.
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https://t.co/kTFct3TVNr
spedville
May 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 with my SC Ss the If-Then is often related to change of adults - not providing consistent supports, not presuming competence
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Q2 from
@eyeonaxs
How can the idea of if/then sig be understood w/o being a justification for certain non productive behaviors?
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bcdtech
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Hello from western MA- just lurking and trying to get some other work done. Book will have to wait til i have more time
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NoreenRyan13
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
S's who need the tools but refuse to use them. What to do? We can't force them.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
@bcdtech
Totally understand. I had to skim it- too many conflicting responsibilities. has some great points.
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bcdtech
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Hello from western MA- just lurking and trying to get some other work done. Book will have to wait til i have more time
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
@NoreenRyan13
Are you responding to a question or asking one?
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NoreenRyan13
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
S's who need the tools but refuse to use them. What to do? We can't force them.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
right. can't force but we can provide support to encourage them to explore and hopefully see the value
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NoreenRyan13
May 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
S's who need the tools but refuse to use them. What to do? We can't force them.
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 it doesn't excuse non productive behaviors - we all have to be able adjust to non-ideal contexts to an extent, but where choice..
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2 is available it allows us or Ss to better understand how they learn/function
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atstewart
May 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
@NoreenRyan13
I often try to get them to make use at home 'in private' if they're not keen to use at school.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@spedville
Do Ts need to increase their understanding of context specific behaviors and adjust accordingly?
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 it doesn't excuse non productive behaviors - we all have to be able adjust to non-ideal contexts to an extent, but where choice..
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bcdtech
May 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@NoreenRyan13
Sorry- western Massachusetts- as opposed to the Boston area
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
@NoreenRyan13
Not a problem. Wanted to check. What are the reasons for non-compliance? Does the S see the value? It matters.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 - provide tools in a toolbox and support - and use trickery if needed - engage peers before adults to support them?
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I think so, I do constantly in the SC classroom and I get frustrated watching other Ss (not mine) struggle when it isn't
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
@wernedat
good point about peer support before adult. Ss want to feel comfortable around classmates
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Successful companies like Costco focus on context based hiring. Matching Talent with Context.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Q3 How can this idea of matching talent or skills with context be applied to the classroom?
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3 - project based learning so Ss are demonstrating knowledge with AT tools in a way and about a thing they have motivation for
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Read: How Job Descriptions Undermine the Hiring Process.
https://t.co/B12uQfA7XE
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3 - This is a huge concept. How often do we ask Ss what their passions are and then use them as a basis for learning? Not often.
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EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: have students learn from other students. one who doesn't understand paired with another student who does
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@mmatp
That was a big takeaway from the book. Job Descriptions do not = successful hires.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Read: How Job Descriptions Undermine the Hiring Process.
https://t.co/B12uQfA7XE
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NoreenRyan13
May 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
@bcdtech
I'm in Springfield
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A1 I find the s's and T's who can find immediate feedback from AT tend to be more engaged and therefore more successful
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3: Every student has a talent & a skill. We need to encourage educators to find them!
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A3: know what the assignment is assessing- knowledge can be demonstrated in a variety of ways that could cater to strengths.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
Hi Vicki - great to see you here tonight.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I found that to be one of the most interesting parts of the book. So important to find areas where people excel
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bcdtech
May 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
@NoreenRyan13
I teach over in Hadley- not far from you
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 - Can also consider this point about Ts as well. Are they working from their interests? Is it time for a career change?
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A3 I like the idea of strength based maatching. There needs to be a match in expected initial training/use of recommended Tools.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
That is such a good point. We often see just as many disengaged educators
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A3 - Can also consider this point about Ts as well. Are they working from their interests? Is it time for a career change?
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@KarenJan
thanks. Sorry I was a bit late- lost track of time. I really liked this book & I've been talking about it at work.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@mmatp
Also found the comparisons between Costco and Walmart fascinating. Now I know why I prefer Costco
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https://t.co/xcNsxiQVN5
mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I found that to be one of the most interesting parts of the book. So important to find areas where people excel
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Listen: Smart Managers Don't Compare People to Averages.
https://t.co/H2sFUmFgoQ
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
What are the points you are sharing with colleagues?
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
@KarenJan
thanks. Sorry I was a bit late- lost track of time. I really liked this book & I've been talking about it at work.
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UDL_Center
May 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Nearly time for
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, it is. Be there, you must. 9-9:30pm ET
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
@KarenJan
true. I think of that every time I am in Costco now! So important to value employees (and our students in schools)
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
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Book Club for May: The Ten-Minute Inservice: 40 Quick Training Sessions that Build Teacher Effectiveness.
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 having trouble phrasing my thought - something about Ss working/modeling talents strengths with younger Ss build confidence
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Most powerful quote from book: Equating learning speed with learning ability is irrefutably wrong.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
The third principle, Pathways Principle, focuses on taking the road less traveled! Different paths for different learners
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
One size does not fit all! Which leads us to Universal Design Thinking.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
@spedville
Great idea, one of many possibilities to think outside the box to reach all learners.
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
A3 having trouble phrasing my thought - something about Ss working/modeling talents strengths with younger Ss build confidence
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Q4 How can we utilize UDL principles to provide multiple pathways for learning? @
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@KarenJan
first I teach diagnosis to SLP2Bs & I've been emphasizing the importance of context & that there's a range of average.
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3 con't: building a School community not just classes that values indiv talent/skills
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
Thanks for sharing -the idea of context is essential to understand for anyone working in ed.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
@KarenJan
first I teach diagnosis to SLP2Bs & I've been emphasizing the importance of context & that there's a range of average.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
And w/other professors, talking about modeling UDL for our students who can use UDL w/their students- provide choices!
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
I agree. I try to model UDL throughout my courses so teachers will bring this back to their classrooms
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possbeth
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@rziolkowski
@eyeonaxs
sorry to miss it--moving my college girl home for the summer
#momslife
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EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4: providing students with choices when it comes to how they access curriculum. Audiobooks, reading handwriting or videos.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
It's also helped that on Monday my AAC class presented their final projects that they'd chosen & they were awesome.
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mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 We don't make people chip out their own curb cuts, why do we make Ts adapt curriculum materials? It should just be there.
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Whoa!
@mkeeneyAT
coming out of the gate strong! Great point
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https://t.co/pGBVKM6AlS
mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 We don't make people chip out their own curb cuts, why do we make Ts adapt curriculum materials? It should just be there.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
@possbeth
We're sorry to miss you, too.
#familycomesfirst
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Don't forget. We are looking for people to moderate
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
@possbeth
@KarenJan
@rziolkowski
@eyeonaxs
Have fun. I am getting tired just looking at that picture
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Q4 PBL allows for choice & self determination, but how to steer Ss toward their talent/skills and away from popular/cool idea/path?
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spedville
May 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
A4-2 similar to issue w Ss not wanting to use AT when it makes them look "different"
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@mmatp
@mkeeneyAT
agreed, that one didn't show up for me on my feed so I am glad you retweeted it Mike.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
@mkeeneyAT
Who decides what it looks like?Teachers have opportunities to create materials based upon context.
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https://t.co/v5Wm5pkYuL
mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 We don't make people chip out their own curb cuts, why do we make Ts adapt curriculum materials? It should just be there.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Q5 from
@eyeonaxs
How do we provide Ss w/ skills they need to select from multiple pathways w/o becoming overwhelmed/paralyzed?
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
@spedville
good question. Even some of my grad students needed a push to figure out what showcased their talents best.
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mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Yes, but we shouldn't have to cook everything from scratch.
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: So important to teach advocacy skills. Understanding choice making & matching it to their strengths
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
@spedville
How often do we ask students, "how do you learn best?What are your passions?"Need to help Ss gain insight.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
@mkeeneyAT
But the final product is so much better. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
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mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
@KarenJan
Yes, but we shouldn't have to cook everything from scratch.
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atstewart
May 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Would those charged to create such materials have the flexibility, resources, insight to cover all the bases
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mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4 We don't make people chip out their own curb cuts, why do we make Ts adapt curriculum materials? It should just be there.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: I've tried modeling by saying that x is the way that works for me to do an activity & also mention that I know y is also a way.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@mmatp
Agreed but, do we honestly value S self-advocacy? How do we respond when they self-advocate?
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: So important to teach advocacy skills. Understanding choice making & matching it to their strengths
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wernedat
May 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: gradual release model, just like w/ anything - give, then fade the "selecting" supports, while increasing their advocacy skills
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@KarenJan
good point. Ss advocating for themselves are sometimes seen as causing trouble. Must change that perception
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A5: for example I talk about text to speech being very useful for editing for some but that I personally hate being read to.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
@mmatp
Yes and also, if their request is ignored, what does the S learn?
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
@KarenJan
good point. Ss advocating for themselves are sometimes seen as causing trouble. Must change that perception
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mkeeneyAT
May 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Q5 By explicitly modeling matching how I will decide how to learn something based on "style/strength/etc" and the CONTENT, too.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
@VickiBostonSLP
To connect it back to the book, are there some contexts where you use text to speech? (There are for me)
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Let’s switch gears and talk about the end of average in higher ed.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@VickiBostonSLP
me too. not just using TTS for editing but for listening to "dense" material after I read it.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q6 from
@eyeonaxs
focuses on what happens when we design learning to focus solely on discrete skills through microcredentials?
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KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@mmatp
Before we move on to Higher Ed, I think the End of Average requires an enormous paradigm shift in thinking for K-12
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@KarenJan
student learns that speaking up doesn't change anything. Can't let that happen. Must keep educating staff
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I can come up with contexts (very small text, maybe) where I might use it but I really really dislike it if I'm honest.
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
K-12 is based upon the bell curve.
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EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
in higher ed student advocacy and confidence in their strategies are key. they need to speak up when something is not working
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TEHPE5
May 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A4 i think the concept of tipping point by CAP program suggests through accessibility 508 this can be accomplished "
@mkeeneyAT
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KarenJan
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May 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
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mmatp
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May 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
That is a HUGE shift in thinking for Ss. This is why we need to promote self advocacy in k-12
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https://t.co/yqiv8SJZkJ
EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
in higher ed student advocacy and confidence in their strategies are key. they need to speak up when something is not working
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@KarenJan
but that in no way diminishes my love of text to speech as a fantastic tool for a variety of reasons & students!
#atchat
atstewart
May 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Is it not sometimes helpful to hide our own dislikes for certain tools?
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I can come up with contexts (very small text, maybe) where I might use it but I really really dislike it if I'm honest.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
We all have preferences. Must show Ss the options and guide them to decide which tools help them learn best.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
@KarenJan
but that in no way diminishes my love of text to speech as a fantastic tool for a variety of reasons & students!
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Good point- we must present the tools without judgement and let Ss decide what works for them.
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atstewart
May 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Is it not sometimes helpful to hide our own dislikes for certain tools?
#ATchat
https://t.co/F50cO7BdYI
VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
@KarenJan
I can come up with contexts (very small text, maybe) where I might use it but I really really dislike it if I'm honest.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@atstewart
we should always hide our personal likes/dislikes. it isn't about us it is about the learner!
#Atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
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tomorrow morning
atstewart
May 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Indeed - it's a must.
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mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
@atstewart
we should always hide our personal likes/dislikes. it isn't about us it is about the learner!
#Atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
May 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Make sure to follow everyone from today’s
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Let’s continue to learn and share!
EGraniero
May 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
@mmatp
a big thing for me was realizing that I wan't alone.once this occured in high school i was able to self advcate.
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VickiBostonSLP
May 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT
@KarenJan
@atstewart
yes, definitely in presenting a tool I try to remain unbiased but I think talking about preferences is helpful.
#atchat
