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TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:00 PM EDT

Welcome to #asechat! Today we are looking at the architecture and use of science labs. How do you make the most of your teaching space?

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:01 PM EDT

How do you organise your lab to maximise learning? How do you use the walls/practical/desks? How have you used your space? #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:02 PM EDT

Q2b: Primary teachers - how do you teach science? Anyone taught in specialist rooms? how do you modify your space? #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:03 PM EDT

@TFScientist try to keep the front of the lab relatively clear of clutter and display stuff etc to reduce visual distractions #asechat

anhalf Apr 11 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@TFScientist #asechat there are some phizzi labs from @ogdentrust @Ogdenprimary , I just use class and outside world :-)

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@TFScientist what are the minimum requirements for teaching science in a room? Should we be vocal about using outdoor spaces too? #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@TFScientist As someone who teaches in multiple different labs, having the same layout in all science classrooms really helps. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:04 PM EDT

@ViciaScience I've taught science lessons in RE rooms, libraries and corridors. Imagination is key #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:05 PM EDT

Don't forget to use the hashtag #asechat! And keep it civil :-)

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@TFScientist But all the equipment is in different places, which can be a proper pain! #asechat #canneverfindthetimers

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@ViciaScience I think outside spaces are really important - particularly in physics and bio - but many schools lack good space #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:05 PM EDT

@anhalf @TFScientist @ogdentrust @Ogdenprimary Is access to a sink a requirement for teaching science? #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:06 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah What about labelling the front of the cupboards with big pictures? #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:06 PM EDT

@ViciaScience more so than gas taps I would suggest #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@TFScientist Usually cupboards are ok, it's all the equipment in @Gratnells trays that are fiddly to find something quickly. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@anhalf phizzi labs? #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:07 PM EDT

@TFScientist Fortunately our technicians are awesome and it's rare that I really have to scrabble around for things. #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:08 PM EDT

Thank you @educationgovuk, #primaryscience exemplification finally out for KS1 and KS2! https://t.co/EjL16dxQgT @PsqmTurner #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @TFScientist many issues with rooming can be made better by awesome technicians! #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:08 PM EDT

@ViciaScience #asechat I love taking my lessons outside to do the messy stuff #mentoscoke or modelling an atom

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:09 PM EDT

Anyone teach with moveable desks? How are the desks best arranged? pods? Rows? Octagons? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@TFScientist In my experience there are 3 types - perfect spaces, adequate spaces and then the rest. Depends which class! #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:09 PM EDT

@TFScientist @ViciaScience Yes, definitely easier to get portable Bunsen burners etc than to dispose of liquids without a sink. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:10 PM EDT

@ViciaScience Is there anywhere you would refuse to teach? #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:10 PM EDT

.@TFScientist I think many are constrained by fixed sinks/gas. I'd like taps around the edges & movable desks in the middle. #asechat

anhalf Apr 11 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@TFScientist an initiative by Ogden trust to get labs for primary schs #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:11 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah I've got that. Too early to report. Not a fan of kids on bunsens with their backs to me #ASEChat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:12 PM EDT

#asechat I loved discovering chalk paint - drawing key apparatus for classes to look at while they wait https://t.co/epFZr9EdHh

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@anhalf @TFScientist @ogdentrust @Ogdenprimary So basic requirement for primary science is a science cupboard? #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:12 PM EDT

@TFScientist We've commandeered a performing arts room as a temp physics lab - desks round the edges with plugs (for keyboards!) #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah My last school was a little better: it was at least square - gave possibilities with seating. Board position constraind #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@TFScientist A good point - tricky to get the right balance, isn't it. #asechat

LessonToolbox Apr 11 @ 3:13 PM EDT

Teaching EM Spectrum? Starter - Why is this an aerosol (not something else)? via @TheWeirdWorld #asechat #ukedchat https://t.co/CfxO5LrGfu

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@TFScientist No, but there are places I prefer to not to teach, having taught in dining hall just before lunch #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:13 PM EDT

@MR5HILL This looks awesome. What am i looking at? #ASEChat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@TFScientist it's a window between the corridor and a sixth form lab #asechat

anhalf Apr 11 @ 3:14 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @TFScientist @ogdentrust @Ogdenprimary need enthusiasm ,willingness2make mistakes&some kit #ASEChat anything else is bonus

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:15 PM EDT

This looks impressive. Can you say more about chalk paint? #ASEChat https://t.co/Zeyb7EJ21g

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:12 PM EDT

#asechat I loved discovering chalk paint - drawing key apparatus for classes to look at while they wait https://t.co/epFZr9EdHh

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:15 PM EDT

So sinks desirable. Gas taps a bonus. Moveable desks often constrained by fixed water and gas. What about electrical points? #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:15 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MrsDrSarah Bunsens not always necessary though, kettles good, try @UncleBo80053383 his microscale burners are good #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@TFScientist Ours are all together - sink that can spray all over sockets... #notagoodidea #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah I don't know about that - useful tool for teaching electrical safety. And conductivity of tap water ;) #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:16 PM EDT

@anhalf @TFScientist @Ogdenprimary What kit? Will domestic stuff do or should chldrn be exposed to 'equipment' in primary? #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Q2: Have you/do you teach outside of a lab? What problems has this caused? How do you use a general teaching room differently #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:17 PM EDT

Are there differences between science 'specialist' labs? What would a physics lab need vs biology vs chemistry? #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:17 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 It is time to move on from Bunsen burners, except in A level microbiology #ASEChat

Mr_S_dA Apr 11 @ 3:18 PM EDT

@TFScientist only 2 lessons a fortnight with two different U6th groups - always theory based lessons #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:18 PM EDT

@anhalf Would you prefer 'proper' labs in primary? Or is a 'kitchen science' element more fun/less daunting for kids? #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @doc_kristy @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 KILL THE MICROBES WITH FIRE #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@ViciaScience I stole them from our CDT dept easy to buy - water soluble & write like board markers - improves #gnitirwsdrawkcab #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 agree, outdated, small adaptations to lessons can make things simpler/safer #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:19 PM EDT

@Mr_S_dA is this a disadvantage, or do you welcome the focus on theory for the demand of a level? #asechat

LessonToolbox Apr 11 @ 3:20 PM EDT

Teaching car safety/change in momentum? - 1959 versus 2009 #asechat #physics #ukedchat https://t.co/LeJtbD9tHa

gregtheseal Apr 11 @ 3:20 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @ViciaScience @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 noooo! Everyone loves a Bunsen #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:20 PM EDT

@TFScientist Here're ours - 2nd pic is set up for open day, usually central benches are parallel w/board. #asechat https://t.co/cyBmvg2ssT

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

#asechat I have an excellent lab but sometimes wish I had more flexibility to experiment with seating plans which fixed benches don't allow

Mr_S_dA Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@TFScientist I quite like it - nice to have a different atmosphere for a change - it's currently being done up over the holiday #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah That is a lovely space - very open, moveable, good board position and storage for bags. #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @ViciaScience @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 for about 2 weeks in Year 7 & lab heating probs... #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@TFScientist @anhalf is it ethos, attitude and language when 'doing' science? Everywhere can a 'lab' if the approach is scientific #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:22 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @anhalf Do students have a different attitude when doing science in a science lab though? #asechat #mindset

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Q2b: Primary teachers - how do you teach science? Anyone taught in specialist rooms? how do you modify your space? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@gregtheseal @doc_kristy @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 especially Y10 (and Y7) but there are ethanol horror stories too #ASEChat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:23 PM EDT

Evening #asechat late on parade, sorry! Whats the topic?

gregtheseal Apr 11 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MarcNeesam @anhalf #asechat defiantly and students attitudes are different when doing other subjects in a science lab #ASEChat

gregtheseal Apr 11 @ 3:23 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MarcNeesam @anhalf #asechat defiantly and students attitudes are different when doing other subjects in a science lab #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@TFScientist I also teach A Level Bio in a maths room, but colleagues are very good at swapping if I need a lab. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@ViciaScience problems with alcohol? No! Technically, alcohol is a solution #ASEchat #badsciencepun

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@OliHandley Lab set ups - best/worst & any fab ideas. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:24 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah Do you need a lab less now that coursework has been modified to the 12 required practicals? #asechat

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doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM EDT

@TFScientist @ViciaScience that's the beauty of the tiny jam jar burners, reduce scale, also quite stable #asechat

edubabbIe Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM EDT

They may also impede the matriculation of large urban centers such as critical activity. #asechat

CLEAPSS Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM EDT

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MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM EDT

@TFScientist Our junior school has a dedicated science lab space - with equipment & an easily cleaned floor! #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:25 PM EDT

@TFScientist @anhalf Good question. I'm sure some do - maybe negative than positive. Is a science lab restrictive, stuffy etc? #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:26 PM EDT

@TFScientist To be honest for the split of the course I teach, I haven't swapped much. #genetics #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:26 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah oh my...... #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:26 PM EDT

As a shorty I wonder if science staff have to work harder for behaviour management- in a classroom pupils are sat much lower down #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

Tonight's #asechat is all about science labs and how we use them. Don't forget the hashtag!

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @TFScientist Do the students see 'science' as only happening in that space? Is that a danger of primary labs? #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@TFScientist I know! I would love to do some drosophila genetics work, but not really enough time. #asechat

gregtheseal Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @doc_kristy @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 much more so than sinks #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@MR5HILL on the other hand, a student only has to fall off their stool once to stop a whole class rocking on theirs #ASEChat

anhalf Apr 11 @ 3:27 PM EDT

@TFScientist #asechat in perfect world, dedicated science space would be fab

SteveTeachPhys Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@TFScientist my Phys lab has more plugs & fewer sinks than equivalent Chem lab #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @TFScientist I think that's an interesting one - science also taught in classrooms & outside, but labs are so useful! #asechat

anhalf Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

Indeed, science is everywhere can be done everywhere #ASEChat https://t.co/VdXSm03OT6

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:21 PM EDT

@TFScientist @anhalf is it ethos, attitude and language when 'doing' science? Everywhere can a 'lab' if the approach is scientific #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

Ive found kids expect to do practical when in a lab,this expectation isnt always met....! #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MrsDrSarah #asechat No! 12 practicals doesn't mean 12 practicals only, it's the best part of teaching! #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MrsDrSarah #asechat No! 12 practicals doesn't mean 12 practicals only, it's the best part of teaching! #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:28 PM EDT

When I was at middle school we had use of a lab from Year 5 upwards. #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:29 PM EDT

My best ever lab was half classroom, half 'wet' lab #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:29 PM EDT

@MR5HILL @MrsDrSarah Depends on your headteacher and their view of the funding. Labs are expensive and take up space #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:29 PM EDT

@TFScientist Suffering from 'test a leaf for starch' frustrations! STILL in new GCSE specs #wasteoftime #confusing #dangerous #ASEChat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:29 PM EDT

I like teaching Year 6 in a lab though - I do think that standing up to do practicals is preferable? More mobile is good? #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:30 PM EDT

@hrogerson same #asechat with bunsens and everything

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:30 PM EDT

@OliHandley I saw one of those at a school I visited, looked fantastic. #bitjealous #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@ViciaScience ethanol + Bunsen = unpredictability #asechat Should this be one of those pracs left as demonstrations? #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:31 PM EDT

@ViciaScience ethanol + Bunsen = unpredictability #asechat Should this be one of those pracs left as demonstrations? #ASEChat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@OliHandley I went back a few years after I left and the benches were so low! So exciting aged 9 to light a Bunsen! #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @OliHandley I will have to keep and eye out to see this is person. #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah was designed by HOD and her brother drew up the plans, it was nothing special other than a slightly larger than avg lab #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@MR5HILL Interesting point - labs create different behaviour patterns in pupils to classrooms #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:32 PM EDT

@hrogerson Yes, definitely agree that ability to move freely around the lab is so important. #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM EDT

@hrogerson excited/slightly terrified #asechat

Mr_S_dA Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM EDT

@TFScientist @ViciaScience kettle? #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:33 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist Important to see that science can go on outside labs, but for some activities labs are needed #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:34 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MarcNeesam @MrsDrSarah Are there prac activities where a lab is a disadvantage? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:34 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @TFScientist there is some great Drosophila work for schools produced by Man Uni - saves time as planning done already #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:35 PM EDT

Q3: What is your ideal lab/teaching space? What is on the walls? How is it laid out? #ASEChat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:35 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist True, but for non-specialists at primary can the lab be seen as the safe, science place? #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:35 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MR5HILL colleagues always comment on science teachers abilities to run whole class pracs #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MR5HILL including colleagues in technology, where I always draw some comparisons #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@OliHandley @ViciaScience @MR5HILL and in hushed tones as I recall... #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@TFScientist I never know about wall displays, hard to balance useful/interesting/not distracting #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@OliHandley I feel tech is more dangerous than science. I wouldn't give some of my students a hammer, chisel or drill #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @ViciaScience @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist its a myth that labs are dangerous that is perpetuated by colleagues #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@TFScientist And then if you're trying to do (gasp) a test, you have to cover them all up! #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:37 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah How to do a graph/chart. Rules for tables. Types of mean. Using bunsen rules. Using microscope rules. #thinkingaloud #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@TFScientist I want a teacher demonstration bench as priority. #asechat

SteveTeachPhys Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @hrogerson have a lab, identical layout to mine, but all the spaces are tighter - easy movement definitely preferable #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @gregtheseal @doc_kristy @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 what about portable burners? #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@TFScientist I also have https://t.co/lwQD1H7hPd on my wall on board with graph, lab equip etc. #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@TFScientist No - should test for sugar not starch to avoid confusion. If heating ethanol use electric water baths not bunsens #ASEChat

EllieERussell Apr 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT

#asechat I agree. Though we have used our giant graph display a lot this year. At side of room, not front. https://t.co/IVEq2sTcbK

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:36 PM EDT

@TFScientist I never know about wall displays, hard to balance useful/interesting/not distracting #asechat

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@TFScientist I always tell Y7 the lab is perfectly safe until I put them inside it #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience @gregtheseal @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 like camping gaz stoves? #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:39 PM EDT

@TFScientist Since there is the chance for product placement, @RoySocChem periodic table poster is great! https://t.co/LeP2QYkEP3 #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT

Q3b: What should be avoided in the ideal teaching lab? What architect faux-pas have you endured? #ASEChat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@SteveTeachPhys @MrsDrSarah there are CLAPS rules about space, but I wonder if they are guidelines rather than laws. #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@EllieERussell @TFScientist I really dislike rooms where there is little white space around the board - invites distraction. #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:40 PM EDT

@jwscattergood @SteveTeachPhys @MrsDrSarah advantage during practical, but disadvantage when doing book work. #asechat #antsinpants

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@EllieERussell @TFScientist And I LOATHE having stuff hanging from the ceiling above kids heads. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @EllieERussell Mines surrounded by gas pipes, fuse boxes and blinky lights. Much worse! #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:41 PM EDT

@TFScientist A3 ours are rows facing forwards, traditional but works #asechat have to get bags out of the way tho https://t.co/HbQMvjVNTw

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@OliHandley #asechat I believe science t's do have excellent behaviour management but the dynamics are definitely different cf 'classrooms'

EllieERussell Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT

I'd like a bench further forward for demo's. Feel a bit trapped behind big teacher bench at times... #asechat https://t.co/b0xookUl9Q

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT

@TFScientist I want a teacher demonstration bench as priority. #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@TFScientist kids with their backs to you! Hexagon desks. #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT

For walls/displays are constant rotations needed? - even the best display becomes wallpaper after a while! #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT

@hrogerson #hate #asechat #whothoughtthatwasagoodidea

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:43 PM EDT

@hrogerson @SteveTeachPhys @MrsDrSarah I think theyre taken into account in the new builds I think theres a pupil:floorspace ratio? #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:43 PM EDT

Agree, I quite often demo in front (kids') bench as teacher demo bench too far away and high up #asechat https://t.co/r9jE2l84iL

EllieERussell Apr 11 @ 3:42 PM EDT
I'd like a bench further forward for demo's. Feel a bit trapped behind big teacher bench at times... #asechat https://t.co/b0xookUl9Q
- hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:38 PM EDT
  
  @TFScientist I want a teacher demonstration bench as priority. #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:43 PM EDT

@hrogerson @TFScientist And not one that just gets covered in paperwork! #nomad #loveatidylab #asechat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:44 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist Not convinced could justify dedicated labs in small primaries - need flexible science areas #ASEchat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@TFScientist #asechat computer monitors mounted on benches - great PR and the 5% when you want them but a real barrier to learning

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@A_Weatherall @ViciaScience @gregtheseal @TFScientist @UncleBo80053383 teenagers + blow torches No thanks I'll stick to jam jars! #asechat

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @TFScientist err, you don't want to find yourself teaching in my Lab... 😂 I tidy before someone else teaches in there. #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@doc_kristy any drawbacks? do kids fiddle with the gas taps/taps/sockets while working? #ASEChat

ViciaScience Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@TFScientist @OliHandley Statistically, science is a relatively safe subject because we are risk aware, not risk averse #ASEChat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@ViciaScience @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist Is that called a classroom where the teacher moves desks and plans/resources science well? #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@TFScientist nope, sockets are on the back of the desks, don't fiddle with gas taps either, good visibility for teacher #asechat

A_Weatherall - Moderator Apr 11 @ 3:46 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @ViciaScience @gregtheseal @TFScientist @MrsDrSarah @UncleBo80053383 eg https://t.co/jFNRxFtHrn #asechat too expensive?

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@hrogerson @TFScientist My HoD is great, but his lab is a right state! #asechat #couldbeworse #notreally

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:47 PM EDT

My last lab had an architecturally beautiful sloping ceiling. Set it on fire twice at the low end. High end had heat sensor. #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:47 PM EDT

@TFScientist I've worked in some strange layouts in schools & this is the best I have had, the back is far away though! #asechat

CazGerrard Apr 11 @ 3:47 PM EDT

Hello #ASEChat sorry I am late to the party ... What's happening?

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:48 PM EDT

@doc_kristy can students still read the board? do they complain? #ASEChat

Mr_S_dA Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT

@hrogerson @MrsDrSarah @TFScientist I do too!....feel I set a bad example to my department! #asechat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT

@TFScientist yes they can, highlights myopia for some though! I don't tend to sit boys at the very back except in experiments #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT

@CazGerrard talking science labs, their uses, their foibles and dream labs #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT

@CazGerrard talking about labs, design, challenges etc #asechat

CazGerrard Apr 11 @ 3:49 PM EDT

I hate it when I leave my lab tidy for someone else only for it to look like a bomb has gone off after! #ASEChat https://t.co/aDNSDbs1TV

hrogerson Apr 11 @ 3:45 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @TFScientist err, you don't want to find yourself teaching in my Lab... 😂 I tidy before someone else teaches in there. #ASEChat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Q4: Do we still need labs? Are practicals still central enough to science to justify the large space and cost? #ASEChat

EllieERussell Apr 11 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah @hrogerson @TFScientist #asechat We experimented with messiest colleagues being nomads the next yr. Led to mess in more rooms 😕

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:50 PM EDT

@TFScientist #asechat smoke alarms! None in the labs just in corridor - what happens when you fill the lab with a bit of smoke #walkofshame

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:50 PM EDT

Does anyone find labs challenging on the voice? All those audio reflecting surfaces? Do we find we to raise our voices more? #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@CazGerrard #guilty or when my board hasn't been cleaned after someone else has been in #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:51 PM EDT

@doc_kristy We've had a new lab this year - I think it is more echoey than others, maybe because less on the walls so far. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@MR5HILL heat sensor, not smoke alarm. but by the time any meaningful heat had triggered it the building wouldve burnt down #ASEChat

CazGerrard Apr 11 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@TFScientist or when someone writes on your board in permanent pen then leaves it for you to clean!! Grr!! #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:52 PM EDT

@MrsDrSarah my lab has a vaulted sealing and is massive, lovely in many ways but can strain the voice! #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@doc_kristy perfect for indoor bottle rockets :) #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:53 PM EDT

@Mr_S_dA @hrogerson @TFScientist I hide my mess in my office! Good, but a proper pain when I leave marked books in the sixth form! #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@CazGerrard this makes me chuckle - or writes on the drop down projector screen..... #asechat

MarcNeesam Apr 11 @ 3:54 PM EDT

Have the 12 practicals at A-level defined the space more? How many have designed their own practicals? Does it make a difference? #asechat

SteveTeachPhys Apr 11 @ 3:54 PM EDT

@EllieERussell @MrsDrSarah @hrogerson @TFScientist when I was nomadic, had a box in every lab for everything I left behind! #asechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@doc_kristy @MrsDrSarah & over noise of enthused pupils doing prac. I sometimes put music on as a cue when I'm feeling unshouty. #asechat

TFScientist Apr 11 @ 3:56 PM EDT

Last Q: What are your hints for working in old/poorly designed labs? #ASEChat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam It really hasn't made a difference for us yet, other than a few new bits of kit to store. #asechat

agittner Apr 11 @ 3:56 PM EDT

@SteveTeachPhys @EllieERussell @MrsDrSarah @hrogerson @TFScientist I'm nomadic too I have one of these https://t.co/xF8gt2C0W6 #ASechat

MR5HILL Apr 11 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@MarcNeesam #asechat we teach iGCSE - no compulsory prac but we still do the same amount, possibly more. Should it change things?

OliHandley Apr 11 @ 3:57 PM EDT

@TFScientist @MR5HILL Ive worked with heat sensors and smoke alarms...Ive had bad experiences with both! #asechat

MrsDrSarah Apr 11 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@agittner @SteveTeachPhys @EllieERussell @hrogerson @TFScientist I've got a wheeley box with some magazine racks in it this year. #asechat

CazGerrard Apr 11 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@TFScientist My lab is ancient - I put up lots of colourful displays and posters to distract the eye! #ASEChat

doc_kristy Apr 11 @ 3:58 PM EDT

@TFScientist oh yes, can get a decent trajectory #asechat

agittner Apr 11 @ 3:59 PM EDT

@TFScientist depends what's there and what itsn't. #ASechat